I work with these 2 women, one's 34 and the other is 32. Both are single and live alone, and both are desperately trying to find a man (as the wall is rapidly approaching). Lately I've been listening in on their conversations...and boy, is there some MGTOW gold there.

My boss is 40 and single. He's not MGTOW, but he's pretty red pilled nonetheless. I genuinely like the guy, despite being 15 years younger, we have good banter and we agree on a lot of things politically (we share the same views on feminism, the LGBT lobby, political correctness and other leftist bullshit).

Anyway, we were discussing Valentines day, and my boss told one of these two women (let's call her P) that he never really went all out for Valentines Day, and that he took his ex to Zizzi last time on Valentines Day. Zizzi, for those not from the UK, is a mid-range Italian restaurant chain. 30 minutes later, the two women were talking, and P mentioned my boss taking his ex to Zizzi on Valentines day. The other woman, E, pissed herself laughing, saying that she would rather be single than go to Zizzi on Valentines day. They then got on the topic of dating, and P said that she never expected to pay on dates, and unless the man took her to a high end restaurant on the first date, he wasn't getting a second, to which E agreed entirely. Their entitlement is incredible, and I was just sitting there thinking about how glad I am to be MGTOW and not living paycheck to paycheck trying to keep up with the Joneses and please some entitled wall hitter.

They've also discussed their requirements for guys which are also laughable, now I'll say neither are particularly good looking, maybe 6 or 7 on a good day, yet they were both in agreement that they wouldn't consider a man that earned less than £80,000 a year (which is like the top 10% of people in the UK), despite only earning half that themselves, and that a man MUST spend at least 3 months' salary on an engagement ring, else they wouldn't say yes. The fucking entitlement never ceases to amaze me.

The office Secret Santa is coming up soon, and I get one of them, I'm getting them a box, and in the box will be cat food and cat toys.