We live in a society

gantz_au · 2019-12-29T22:07:49+00:00

Killing three children is worth 4 years in prison... bloody hell.

ummagumma99 · 2019-12-29T23:08:48+00:00

What's True

The act of setting fire to an LGBT rainbow flag in Ames, Iowa, in June 2019 did ultimately result in Adolfo Martinez receiving a total sentence of 16 years in prison.

What's False

Several news articles failed to mention that Martinez' sentence would not have been nearly so long if he had not already been convicted of two previous felonies and treated as an "habitual offender," in keeping with Iowa state law. In that circumstance, his criminal history tripled the maximum available sentence for arson from five years to 15 years.

Still fucked up

GimmeYourJuices · 2019-12-29T21:28:06+00:00

He actually had multiple charges prior. Not trying to dismiss the fact that women get lighter sentences for the same shit but this is just misinformatim.

iAmMaskemane · 2019-12-30T00:20:43+00:00

Childrens dont vote and they want stupid people so less protection to kids and more for the stupid people

Tallsmarthandsome · 2019-12-30T01:28:22+00:00

All Feminist is Projection: "See Privilege"

The-Sunken-King · 2019-12-30T02:28:34+00:00

It would appear we truly do live in a society

mgthrowaway2 · 2019-12-30T04:45:34+00:00

The Alphabet Soup community and wahmen are protected victimhood classes, who get free shit because "muh oppression".

XDhellohi1 · 2019-12-30T03:17:02+00:00

Honk honk! 🤡

jhertzog75 · 2019-12-30T04:15:45+00:00

so they are not in support of free speech

MyrthenOp25 · 2019-12-30T05:43:10+00:00

Burning an american flag doesn't even come with any offense. Why should any flag

ASAT88 · 2019-12-30T02:03:43+00:00

Just damn

Colombian-mra · 2019-12-30T03:22:36+00:00

She deserves 70 yrs jail

zryan3564 · 2019-12-30T04:48:35+00:00

So someone is allowed to set the American flag on fire but someone can't set a rainbow flag on fire. That's bullshit. Why does freedom of speech not apply to the burning of the queer flag? This world is all fucked up.

ZdzislawDyrma · 2019-12-29T23:55:27+00:00

Pussy pass.. right there.

billybob_jr · 2019-12-30T02:18:20+00:00

Can we get a global gay flag burning for our guys in prison.

2019-12-30T05:26:48+00:00

we all know the score now

Mr_Crick84 · 2019-12-30T07:15:09+00:00

Had to check if this was true and it pretty much is - He was a repeat offender and also might have damaged some private property.

He didn't kill anyone and he gets a sentence like this, Scary they can put you away for something like this - I would expect a slap on the wrist not a Molotov cocktail up your arse

teelolws · 2019-12-30T07:27:55+00:00

16 years for arson? What the fuck?

J-Bone1999 · 2019-12-30T18:31:20+00:00

Free Iowa man!

Benn123098 · 2019-12-30T18:49:21+00:00

Fucking sick

MoonshineGuy859 · 2019-12-29T21:59:49+00:00

Unsure if this is comparing apples to apples. I followed the story in Indiana quite closely. I penned a letter to that young woman. That was an intensely tragic event for everyone, including the woman driving the truck. This hits close to home as I was involved in a similar incident in the same role as this woman.

She was terribly negligent, that is certain. She saw the flashing lights and dismissed them as construction, then continued on at a high rate of speed. She was grossly negligent. Frankly, the amount of time in prison will never compare to waking up every day of her life knowing what her negligence did.

This guy sounds like he has been quite the troublemaker. "16 years for burning an fag flag" is misleading.

Rottinghere · 2019-12-30T01:24:10+00:00

I care nothing for this country anymore. Absolutely nothing.

SalvageProbe · 2019-12-30T08:21:42+00:00

If you have to make a point, burn people, not flags.

bfte2 · 2019-12-30T11:39:34+00:00

Peak clown world.

Allborii · 2019-12-30T15:05:15+00:00

India.

The place i will NEVER live. U think Australia or Ireland or Sweden are fucked up.... India 》 hold my beaf meat....

bosslife242 · 2019-12-30T17:18:49+00:00

Clown World.

CaptainTarantula · 2019-12-30T20:36:41+00:00

They must protect the sacred demographics who support them politically.

the_regal_seagull_ · 2019-12-30T12:57:03+00:00

Read up on both cases.

SPOILER neither court ruling has anything to do with gender

The Indiana woman was given a lighter sentence due to the fact that she had a clean criminal record, she is rather young, and she is a mother.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/2694891001

The Iowa sentencing seemed to have less to do with the LGBTQ+ community than with the arson itself (I’m fact, CNN states that the LGBTQ+ advocacy group said that they appreciated the strong effort towards justice but they would have chosen a lighter sentence that was more focused on reconstruction). The man had a heavier sentence because he was a repeat offender, having committed two previous felonies. Under Iowa law, that increased his sentence from the normal 5 years for arson to 15. Not sure what the 16th is for. I read an interesting snopes article that really defines the state law as it pertains to this case.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/21/us/iowa-man-burns-lgbt-flag-church-trnd/index.html

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/iowa-man-16-years-lgbt-flag/

I do agree that the Indiana woman should have received more jail time. Opinions aside, however, it’s important to look at the background of the law and why the courts make the decisions they do. It’s also quite interesting to see how easy it is for news articles to skew the facts.

Number1sun · 2019-12-30T01:23:49+00:00

Blatant violation of first amendment rights, flag burnings even with the US flag are completely legal-just frowned upon.

LongQueues · 2019-12-30T00:11:08+00:00

It’s not illegal to burn the American flag this sounds fake

Title	We live in a society
Author	swiet
Upvotes	1206
Comments	77
Date	December 29, 2019 9:26 PM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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