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January 17, 2019
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Title And some, I assume, are good people.
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NeckbeardRolePlay

Upvotes 398
Comments 63
Date January 17, 2019 2:51 PM UTC
(7 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/agyhsy/and_some_i_assume_are_good_people/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/and-some-i-assume-are-good-people.886112
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[–]BasketsAndBugs 187 points188 points189 points 7 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Nobody bullies like a girl/woman bullies. And, it starts early, usually around the 5th grade, as a group activity of singling out one girl in order to make the clique bond. They enjoy seeing someone cry.

Even when they do studies on internet "bullying", it's mostly women. Guys are just randomly commenting as trolls to try to be funny. Women stalk someone online just because they got "triggered", or because a guy chose that person over her. They have this sense of entitlement, because "I am a special princess, and I WILL get what I want."

And, who (male or female) hasn't fought with a woman, who immediately aims for the gut when arguing?

You showed up late! Yeah, well, you're just insecure because your dad died of cancer!

Men don't do that shit.

[–]__pulsar 14 points15 points16 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Try 4-5 years old. My nieces always take turns excluding one of them and clearly get satisfaction out of doing so. (I'm sure some boys do this as well but I haven't seen it personally from my nephews)

[–]KnightofNarg 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're right. As soon as they're able to have an opinion of their own it begins. My daughter was the excluded and picked on starting from 1st grade, when they thought she was just cutely different, and it hasn't gotten any better. She still clings to and is enjoying her childhood, while they want to be adults, and consider her the weird one at 10 years old.

[–]BobCatNinja_ 31 points32 points33 points 7 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

I know a kid who literally insulted my friend because his dad is diagnosed with cancer - 3 times. They’re no longer friends.

EDIT: Thanks so fucking much for the proof here. While this is a real true story I said it here because I wanted to prove that this subreddit doesn’t argue with facts and try to overly defend themselves.

[–]Sabertooth767 14 points15 points16 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not even cruel enough to determine how I'd insult someone for that.

[–]lonewolfhistory 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

When I was in junior high my father was dying and I got fucked with over it every day. Mostly by cunts and the feminine boys

[–]UnexplainedShadowban 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Men insult each other but don't really mean it. Women compliment each other but don't really mean it.

[–]InsanerobotWargaming 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I call my best friend a bitch all the time.

[–]electricalnoise 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"you're gonna be a loser just like your father"

I never said she was gonna turn into a fat lazy slut just like her mother.

I should have, because i would have been right.

[–]masterdebator300 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Girls play psychological games and they are very good at it. I cant find any stats but im sure if a man kills himself it most likely because a woman got to him.

[–]CaptSnap 36 points37 points38 points 7 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

For those that arent from the US or dont follow Trump this was something he said that offended many people....this is the quote:

“When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”

The corollary with the Gillette ad is it says:

"Men need to hold other men accountable. To say the right thing. To act the right way. Some already are. But some is not enough."

So if Trump is saying that some illegal immigrants arent rapists then its unreasonable to infer he thinks most are. The gotcha is that many (on the left and right) were a little (and alot) outraged that they heard him say immigrants are rapists. There were quite a few headlines at the time.

If they thought Trump said illegals were rapists then its a bit hypocritical if they feel Gillette is NOT saying that.

The other argument against is that Trump has said a ton of racist shit so it makes sense to not take his quote "charitably" whereas Gillette doesnt have the same track record.

Thats somewhat true of Gillette singularly but not true for the media at large which has pretty consistently shown an anti-male bias for almost 4 decades now.

[–]momojabada 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The other argument against is that Trump has said a ton of racist shit

This is false. Point me one thing that is actually racist that he said.

Saying most of the illegal immigrants from Mexico commit crimes and rape and bring drugs isn't racist. He didn't mention race at all.

People that say Trump said racist shit, can't ever point to a truly racist statement, it's always a statement to which they attach their own biases and meaning to many of the words in order to make it racist.

[–]electricalnoise 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Aren't all illegal immigrants breaking the law by definition? I see no problem with the statement.

[–]CaptSnap 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

For arguments sake lets say I meant, "since then the media has ACCUSED Trump of saying a bunch of racist shit" so this argument can get lost in the noise.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree with you. Trump isn’t racist. He just doesn’t bow down to the PC agenda. This is how sensitive we’ve gotten. If you don’t give special treatment to various races then you’re racist.

[–]jp_mra 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

They’re rapists.

Their rapists.

It was spoken only by Trump, and the fake news intentionally mis-spelled it.

[–]EatTheRich- -4 points-3 points-2 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

I’m sorry, how does him saying “their rapists” make any sense in context as opposed to “they’re rapists?”

[–]dangsoggyoatmeal 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

They're bringing x, y, and z.

They're bringing drugs, crime, and rapists.

All the other things in the list are things they're bringing, and points like this go by threes. It would make no sense for it to not be, "their rapists."

[–]EatTheRich- 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

They are rapists.

They bring their rapists.

What.

[–]dangsoggyoatmeal 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

'Of Mexican society, it's the rapists that are being sent.'

[–]EatTheRich- 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So... they are rapists?

[–]Vman2 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes I see now. He did not say all were rapists. He said they are bringing the worse elements of their society, which includes rapists among others. By failing to accurately report what was said the MSM loses all credibility and people are only that much more sympathetic to Trump. For a bunch of so called journalists and experts in communication the MSM are truly incompetent.

[–]EatTheRich- 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Right. So he said the illegal immigrants are rapists.

Except for some, he assumes.

[–]Nielsen316 31 points32 points33 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

How am I internally less angered about this as a man then when Trump said that paragraph with just Mexicans in the place of men. Must be all the social conditioning.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I know it is. It’s a paragraph from a trump speech with Mexicans replaced with men.

Trump said that about people who cross the US/Mexico border illegally. He did not say that about all Mexicans.

[–]rough-n-ready 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yep. And they purposely misspelled ‘their rapists’ to ‘they’re rapists’ so they could say that he’s calling all illegals rapists.

[–]momojabada 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, it's a common tactic. They insert their own words and definitions to make it racist and worse than it is. They're disingenuous.

[–]GingerRazz 15 points16 points17 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Had a mini red pill moment, eh? It's odd how often a word flop can being things into a bit more clarity.

[–]cjekaf 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It’s fake...

[–]Nielsen316 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I know it is. It’s a paragraph from a trump speech with Mexicans replaced with men.

[–]Terminal-Psychosis -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

but it doesn't work at all.

The way they phrased it was trying to completely change the meaning of what he was saying.

It doesn't fit the Gilette crap at all.

[–]TheProphecyIsNigh 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As a Mexican man, both versions anger me.

[–]LittleRedSquirrel11 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Was this an actual post that they took down? I dont see it in their feed.

[–]shadow6654 23 points24 points25 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Pretty sure someone just took Trumps speech and changed it for Gillette...

[–]satellite779 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Looks like a hoax

[+]NeckbeardRolePlay1 points 7 years ago* [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

It's a comparison to being out the double standard of being offended over the original quote by Trump about Medicans and Gillettes ad.

[–]satellite779 12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's not obvious to many it seems.

[–]Siganid 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It also flops on the point that barbeques are not innately a crime.

[–]pongpong123able 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As if grilling barbeque and illegally trafficking humans across a desert are two similar things

[–]PandaMike90 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well that escalated quickly

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Gillette has gone full retard, ahem, I mean feminazi.

[–]dangsoggyoatmeal 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Same thing, really.

[+]AlexTweaks1 points 7 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

What about when we send men to war. Men we rely on for protection, safety and a lot of girls rely on them for money and a living. Fuck this, it's impossible to go a day these days without being told how shit of a perosn you are because of your gender.

[–]Vman2 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's men's fault. Don't go to war to protect a system that despises your gender and shits all over you. Don't wine and dine women if there is a chance they will do the same later down the track. Personally I learnt this the hard way and stick to women from a different culture.

[–]SuperManagement 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh god just shoot me

[–]5th_Law_of_Robotics 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

At this point in history in the Western world attacking men needs to be seen as punching down.

[–]Bigbossman123 -5 points-4 points-3 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Wonder how the Trump supporters in this sub will feel about this.

[–]dangsoggyoatmeal 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean, a good portion of The_Donald is people poking fun at themselves. I honestly thought this was a post from there until I looked.

[–]KiloYankee5E1F 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fine because we're not volatile dandies that can't laugh our own expense.

Don't bring that shit here.

[–]iVah1d 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

more than 80 percent of kids and females get raped in those caravans, some of em committed awful crimes in their countries and running away from the law, why no one say the same thing about iranians in united states? most of em are educated people graduated from best universities from iran and found their way into US with a legal procedure with good merit. that's why they're among highest paid people in US.there is a certain capacity to every county to host these kind of immigrants, in iran we have almost open borders with Pakistan and Afghanistan and people poured in from those countries in here, led to massive suburban habitation in tehran and other big cities in iran. they work for fraction of what iranian workers and there is this opioid that grews in Afghanistan called 'Hashish' and 'Taryaak' which they carry them here and sell it to our youth.

they're uneducated and re-procreate like crazy, in some cities you can't even see an iranian because how much afghans live in there. every once in a while we hear some of these people gang raped an iranian boy or girl and left them to die or beheaded and hid the body in a barrel.

i don't agree with everything trump says or does but in overal i like him more than obama and he kept his word.

whatever trump is wrong but he's not wrong about the border and wall, united states needs it.

people say those caravans seeking asylum in here, the interesting part is, why they refuse the asylum in mexico?

what makes these people more eligible than those come legally to united states and wait years to get citizenship?

united states need to control how much people it's gonna host, you can't place whole mexico in your border asylums, and one final thing, it took only 5 people to 9/11 to happen, it took only one undocumented alien to sweep a life away from an US border cop and many many other examples, caring about other people is good, but first start with your own homeless veterans and people while live in streets of SF and many other US states.

[–]Bigbossman123 -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I was referencing the obvious parallels between Trump's speech in which he called Mexican immigrants rapists and this Gillette commercial. Nothing more.

[–]Mythandros -3 points-2 points-1 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Probably butthurt, but that's a normal feeling for them. They always feel that way.

[–]ninjabear04 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Why would they? This doesn’t reference trump

[–]Bigbossman123 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's comparing the Gillette ad to comments he made about Mexican immigrants during his campaign ("They're not sending they're best, they're sending drugs and rapists, etc...)

[+]gbaby12211 points 7 years ago [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link

Never been more disgusted by a tweet in my life.

[–]shadow6654 17 points18 points19 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

....seriously? You don’t recognize this? Its Trumps speech, it’s not real.

[–]available_splinter 19 points20 points21 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

There are people here from outside the U.S. I Didn't recognise it.

[–]shadow6654 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m from outside the US as well, that speech just stuck in my head because of how insane it was.

[–]gbaby1221 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No I’m from the US and I didn’t recognize it. I’m not into politics that much.

[–]shadow6654 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m not from the US and I’m really not into American politics, it just seemed like all day every day for a while that’s all anyone was talking about.

[+]billyhorton -21 points-20 points-19 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

There is nothing wrong with this commercial. I find it inspiring. What's wrong are the people who take offense to it. How can this offend you unless you're that delicate of an individual?

[–]Bigbossman123 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why are you here?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

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