All that is compassionate, empathetic, wise, passionate, open, intense, relational, associative, intuitive, vulnerable, (whatever's good, in other words) is due to "girl cells" - Vagina Dialogues Author

DutchUncle · 2010-09-15T15:53:59+00:00

"Sugar and spice, and everything nice..."

Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you in a nutshell the intellectual sophistication of Ms. Ensler.

ignatiusloyola · 2010-09-15T17:03:59+00:00

Vagina Dialogues? I have only heard of the Vagina Monologues.

Terraneaux · 2010-09-15T17:37:24+00:00

Where's the science? Where's the evidence?

"To be a man means not to be a girl." I like how she lapses straight into us vs. them sorts of mentality, because calling masculinity the enemy is going to help anyone.

withnailandI · 2010-09-15T17:25:21+00:00

One of the original Vagina Monologues was about a 12 year old girl sleeping over at a woman's house. The woman was older, in her thirties or forties. She proceeds to introduce the young girl to lesbian sex. (Apparently it's 'empowering' for 12 year old girls to have women play with their vaginas.)

The producers of the play asked the playwright -- this woman, Eve Ensler -- to make the girl older. Now she's 16.

I wonder how celebrated a play would be about a middle-aged man introducing a 12 year old boy to the joys of man-boy love?

Edit: This part of the play is actually called "The Little Coochie Snorcher That Could". I'm not making this up.

MarginalProduction · 2010-09-15T21:51:56+00:00

While most of this talk is just plain foolish, I think she does make a good point about how the expectations put on men drive us to so many of our problems. Society does tell men that we can't be weak, we can't be emotional, we must always be the rock. She does effectively highlight how gender stereotypes create conflict and harm men. Though I don't think she realizes this.

2010-09-15T18:05:05+00:00

Eve Ensler is just plainly fucking retarded.

kloo2yoo · 2010-09-15T15:57:44+00:00

I'd like to see Ms. Ensler spot a "girl cell" with a microscope.

Benlarge1 · 2010-09-16T11:48:31+00:00

I love how she almost immediately states that these "girl cells" are present in both males and females. What makes the cells female, again?

2010-09-17T16:23:54+00:00

she says girls a trained to please. boys are also trained to please. the form that takes is to be the expendable, the tool for whatever end the culture and the females choose. we are not to refuse this role even if it endangers our lives, reduces our longevity or increases the male suicide rate through stress and pressure (such as financial/status objectification).

so ms ensler, i ask you this: will feminists' project be completed by the feminisation of men? this was touched on a couple of times in the video, such as her observation of men watching chick flicks on the plane. i think feminists and the culture secretly acknowledge this. everyone knows that

kloo2yoo · 2010-09-15T15:32:22+00:00

femininity is presented here as the source of goodness and light.

2010-09-17T16:13:02+00:00

she's wearing make up. instant feminism fail

Title	All that is compassionate, empathetic, wise, passionate, open, intense, relational, associative, intuitive, vulnerable, (whatever's good, in other words) is due to "girl cells" - Vagina Dialogues Author
Author	kloo2yoo
Upvotes	16
Comments	66
Date	September 15, 2010 3:31 PM UTC (15 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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