Supporting male victims of crimes considered violence against women and girls

SecTeff · 2022-03-31T20:42:42+00:00

Ok so this is really weird. Rather than talk about men being victims of crimes. We now have ‘crimes considered violence against women and girls’. This is proper Orwellian double speak.

Both the Tackling Violence Against Women and Girls “Strategy, and the Domestic Abuse Plan, set out our ambition to reduce the prevalence of all VAWG crimes, regardless of who they affect, and to support all victims/survivors, including men and boys”

Homicide is perhaps the only crime the omit as a crime considered violence against women and girls - likely as men are more likely to be victims.

Here is an idea - victims of crime can be of any sex.

3DemocracyActivist · 2022-03-31T20:58:40+00:00

Government of England are misandrist dictators who pass misandrist policy without asking the public to vote on it. I am confident that misandrist policies would not survive democratic vote.

tenchineuro · 2022-03-31T22:40:57+00:00

Well, the paper's title is accurate enough.

This document outlines the Government’s support for male victims of crimes that fall within the violence against women and girls space. This document sits alongside the Tackling Violence Against Women and Girls (VAWG) Strategy 2021 and the Domestic Abuse Plan 2022, as a connected and complementary piece of work. Both the Tackling Violence Against Women and Girls Strategy, and the Domestic Abuse Plan, set out our ambition to reduce the prevalence of all VAWG crimes, regardless of who they affect, and to support all victims/survivors, including men and boys.
This document can be used by statutory bodies, charity sector practitioners, victims/survivors, and the public alongside the Tackling Violence Against Women and Girls Strategy, and the Domestic Abuse Plan as: an informational resource on the male victims’ landscape, including the specific challenges male victims face; an outline to the support services outlook; and a guide to develop best practice.
The term ‘violence against women and girls’ refers to acts of violence or abuse that we know disproportionately affect women and girls. These crimes include - and are not limited to - rape, sexual violence, domestic abuse, stalking, ‘honour’-based abuse including forced marriage, ‘revenge porn’, and the harms associated with sex work and prostitution. These crimes have profound and long-lasting physical and mental health impacts and have absolutely no place in our society. The use of this term cannot and should not negate the experiences of, or provisions for, male victims of these crimes. The Government is committed to ensuring that all victims/survivors of these crimes, of all protected characteristics, receive the support they deserve, and recognises its responsibilities under the Public Sector Equality Duty provided for in the Equality Act 2010.1

This is not a legal document, it's not a law, and it does not really outline any form of government support. I did not read it all, but in what I read they never once referred to a perpetrator of DV against a man as a woman.

The UK has always been willing to throw male DV victims of females in jail, and it gives women who bottle men short suspended sentences if it prosecutes at all. Of course, the judges handbook says not to jail a woman except in extreme cases.

So what can I say, this meaningless document is not going to change the Crown's long-standing anti-male stance and unwillingness to punish a woman.

delocalelectron · 2022-04-01T08:35:33+00:00

They Government is only now being forced to acknowledge (through tortuous doublespeak) that violence against partner (VAP) crimes can affect men. They (and the providers of their data) are kicking and screaming against accepting the FACTS, and continue to hide behind the message that domestic violence is predominately against women and girls. It was the women's refuge movement which first provided the initial skewed and biased data to police forces, suggesting that men were the perpetrators of ALL violence of this nature. See Sarah Baird, former Solicitor General for England and Wales, becoming Northumbria Police and Crime Commissioner. Baird claimed that domestic violence against women is a generic trait of men (2011). She aligned it with the feminist narrative on gender. Any theory of gender which requires this interpretation is refuted if the empirical evidence shows widespread domestic abuse of men. There will therefore be resistance to accepting and publishing the real evidence if it goes against the feminist 'power & control' theory of patriarchy. [see Linda Kelly, Florida State University Law Review, Vol 30, issue 4 ]. So - the Office for National Statistics, and the Crown Prosecution Service obligingly fudges the figures and the facts, to fix the narrative.

The problem here is one which is much, much wider than that of violence against men as a single topic, important though it is. The problem is one of feminists gaining positions of huge power and responsibility, then using that power to 'fix' society to its liking. Inevitably, this will be to the detriment of men. Even everyday women (which I'd define as those untouched or only barely affected by feminism) have at least a 4x preference for the views, sympathies and objectives of their own sex, a kind of 'oestrogen entanglement' which is NOT to the benefit of men, by and large. We are well on our way to living in a world of make-believe.

Jimmy5772 · 2022-04-01T09:08:16+00:00

I literaly dont understand the title. It’s mumbo jumbo. I think someone wrote this on their coffee break and it got the “yer ,that will do” stamp.

The_Dapper_Balrog · 2022-04-01T18:56:02+00:00

A child who sees, hears, or experiences the effects of domestic abuse, and is related to the person being abused or the person perpetrating the abuse, is also regarded as a victim...Boys can therefore be victims of domestic abuse in their own right...

So boys can only be victims of domestic abuse if they witness someone else being abused? Yeah right.

LondonDude123 · 2022-04-01T02:13:36+00:00

NO no no no. Delete this OP. You've read it wrong. The title is a complete clusterfuck of words.

It SHOULD read: Support Male Victims of Crimes (Crimes which would otherwise be considered as violence against Women/Girls)

The idea is that they acknowledge that Men get no support when they're the victims of crimes such as domestic abuse, because DV Crimes usually affect Women.

Its a GOOD report to have, its just written stupidly...

Title	Supporting male victims of crimes considered violence against women and girls
Author	SecTeff
Upvotes	77
Comments	25
Date	March 31, 2022 8:39 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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