EDIT: Stats
Mission: to live a happy and productive life and be fulfilled, including sexually
190/6’/body fat 15%/Bench 230/At the gym 5 days a week
I’m an architect
own home. About $250k in equity. About 90k left on mortgage. Solid 401k and some other investments
I attend church most Sundays. Wife is more into it and attends many women’s Bible study sessions.
I’m 49. Wife is 47. We’ve been married 20 years. No kids.
I’m getting started with RP stuff.
TL;DR. Wife doesn’t want sex anymore, divorce or affair would both screw me.
Sex has never been great between us. We both come from conservative Christian backgrounds. I’m not as affected by it as she is.
Since the promotion it’s gotten worse. She already let herself go after getting married and it’s accelerating. Lots of stress eating I think. Less time for cooking.
I’m not even that physically attracted to her but I need sex. I’ve thought about divorce a lot. Thank god we don’t have kids.
My family would go ape shit if I got divorced. Our families are very close. I’ve worked hard renovating the house and don’t want to lose it. I’m also much better with money have have a huge 401k. She doesn’t.
I used to loathe infidelity but am inching in that direction. I don’t even know if I could work out the logistics since I have the kind of job that doesn’t allow me to get away during the day.
I’m new to TRP. How would a RP expert proceed in my situation?
I haven’t seen any signs of her cheating. And yes, I know I shouldn’t have married her.
[–]UEMcGillI am become McGill, Destroyer of Blue Pill 36 points37 points38 points (12 children) | Copy Link
Why are you so entrenched in how your families judge your actions that you would let it affect the rest of your fucking life?
Repeat after me, "I'm the prize!"
Start fucking acting like it and maybe your wife will want to bang.
Every man must be prepared to live his life according to his rules. I've told my own mother to knock her shit off and act like a grown fucking adult, and if she couldn't behave she wouldn't be allowed in my house. She shaped up, you know why? She 100% knew it was the truth. I love my mom, but would walk away from her in a Nano-second if she couldn't take part in my life according to my rules.
What are you afraid of? Game it out. Worse case scenario, you ditch your lazy fat wife. You're family disowns you. Her family disowns you. She marries a fat beta schlub.
Now you have plenty of time to bang hotties because of all the free time you gained instead of supplicating people.
Quit being a fuck-farmer. Let your field of fucks go barren.
[–]NoMoarNonsese123[S] -1 points0 points1 point (10 children) | Copy Link
Good points
[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret 21 points22 points23 points (6 children) | Copy Link
Fuck you. It's better than "good points". You have no idea how much knowledge one of the original vets of this place just shared. He doesn't even comment much. Why he chose you I have no idea. Maybe because you're not fat.
If there is one thing you should take away from his response it's this: Read the sidebar. The guy who originally put the sidebar together? He just responded to you. And you know what?
You think he made good points. That's all you had to offer back. Fuck you.
Your woman isn't attracted to you. And guess what? That's your fault. That sidebar over there will show you why.
I know you're sad. But I also know that deep inside of you is an enormous amount of anger. Fucking epic levels of anger. Beta males just keep that shit locked up and then one day they blow a fucking gasket and just go nuclear Rambo. The only thing preventing you all these years from going berzerker fuck-jesus-christ-in-the-ass RAMBO was the gym, and you're just generally a gigantic fucking pussy.
Because you know what dude? I wouldn't settle for a fat wife who doesn't fuck. I wouldn't even settle for fat. Or not fucking. No matter the cost. I'd nuke this fucking marriage in a heartbeat. And you know what? That keeps my wife's pussy nice and wet all the time. Never would have thought that, hmmm?
Just be a good little boy. There you go. Here's a little bit of pussy. Good boy. Awww, you feel better now. Ok, see you when I have to do this again.
How much is your life worth to you? A few "good points"?
Fuck you.
[–]NoMoarNonsese123[S] 0 points1 point2 points (4 children) | Copy Link
I’m not that into the idea of banging her, since she’s not really attractive to me.
I’m way past the sad stage. Do I resent her? For sure.
Both the options of divorce or an affair are hard for me to accept because of how I grew up and the evangelical circles I move in. I own that I’m laying in a sexless bed of my own making.
The practical suggestions of how I can make a long term plan to get out of this situation are really helpful.
[–]JeremyC091 9 points10 points11 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Half the fucking people in the church are divorced.
Let’s imagine for a second, that you are standing in front of god. And he ask why you divorced your wife.
The future of your soul is on the line….
And you respond. Lord, I became the best man I could be. I tried to guide her through my actions, and she refused to follow.
Do you really think an all knowing god, who watched you live an authentic life, is going to say F you. To hell you go.
I should add. You are years away from an authentic life. At this point, you do not have a reference to what that means.
But it could be yours, if you put in the work.
[–]DeplorableRay 7 points8 points9 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I can’t get a divorce or have an affair, but I’d like some long term strategies for getting a divorce or having an affair. Dude, do you read this shit before you post it?
[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret 5 points6 points7 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Lucky for you, you're not a special snowflake.
You're a fucking nice guy pussy. This is the root of your problem. Lucky for you I wrote a whole post about it.
Why you must be willing to nuke your nuclear family.
Even though you don't have kids this applies fiercely because of your excuses.
[–]NoMoarNonsese123[S] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Reading it now. Thank you.
[–]BigBoiBahmani 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Let them burn.
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[–]Confident_Strategy_1 4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Crazy Groupie Alert!
[–]donmcde 16 points17 points18 points (3 children) | Copy Link
Well shit. You're screwed. Better sacrifice the rest of your life making them happy. That's literally your only choice.
But honest question, would you fuck you? Are you fat? A supplicating pussy (it's a rhetorical question, I know you are)? Does she have any reason to respect you as a man? Do you?
[–]NoMoarNonsese123[S] 2 points3 points4 points (2 children) | Copy Link
I’m a gym guy. Always have been. I have masculine hobbies. I get looks from women.
In the marriage I’ve been a pussy. You are right.
[–]ilove702 7 points8 points9 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Double down, quit your job and tell her shes too fat for you. Divorce rape her when she files the papers if you’re gonna be a bitch be a fucking bitch. Its obvious you want to divorce her you just want her to be the one to do it so you can save face.
[–]SteelSharpensSteel 11 points12 points13 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I bet if you keep setting yourself on fire to keep your wife warm that will surely work for you.
I wrote a post for people like you. You should read it.
[–]JCX_Pulse 6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
You need the sidebar. Start there, specifically NMMNG
[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret 6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s pretty simple really...
become attractive. Attraction is way more than physical. It’s having a strong frame. Read the sidebar and keep lifting. Is that Bench your 1 rep max?
You have to start living your life for you. My gut tells me you care about what your circles will think of you get divorced.
Losing some $ and a house is by far the better option than staying in a sexless marriage where you aren’t even attracted to her.
Do you see your logic here... basically you are saying you want to be miserable so you can avoid being miserable. Getting out is your only chance at happiness, and “happiness” is a fleeting feeling just for the record.
Think about what you are on your deathbed. Will you lay there being content, knowing you took a chance and got out of an unhappy situation
or
Will you lay there in regret, knowing you were too much of a pussy and became more and more miserable Through the years/decades?
[–]ilove702 4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
If you execute flawlessly and get your wife on board and she chooses to put in the massive multi year work to become a skinny and horny 50yr old woman would you be happy? The sooner you know what you want the better.
[–]Tyred_BiggumsDon't let these gypsy women fool you 12 points13 points14 points (6 children) | Copy Link
You already got good advice on the top two comments from the post you lazily cross posted.
My advice? Go fuck non land whales. Or divorce. Whatever.
What is this “i can’t cheat or get divorced bullshit?”
Of course you can! I highly recommend it. Makes for great stories.
[–]itiswr1ttenRed Beret 3 points4 points5 points (1 child) | Copy Link
To be fair I am the one who sent him here - he needed it and wasn't going to get it from the 19yo spergs and JUST HOLD FRAME BRO audience of asktrp.
[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
You must have about as much patience at trp as I do at askmrp.
[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret 7 points8 points9 points (3 children) | Copy Link
But cheating or getting a divorce wouldn't be very nice, would it?
[–]Tyred_BiggumsDon't let these gypsy women fool you 6 points7 points8 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Oh shit you’re right. Forgot OP is a Nice Guy.
[–]InChargeManRed Beret 2 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
He would probably feel guilty
[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Someone needs a married man sex life primer.
[–]business----travel 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
You are a lazy, rudderless man child who is in everyone else's frame but his own...
Sidebar, lift heavy, and get to work motherfucker!
[–]SelectAirline 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Other than your wife, how many women could you call or message right now and set up a date?
[–]BigBoiBahmani 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Lurk moar. There is nothing to say here that you couldn't acquire if you read and think.
[–]ReddJiveRed Beret 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yep. It’s all her fault.
First will direct you here r/RPChristians
I have determined that beta men fascinate me because I've never met a group of people who so unabashedly proclaim themselves the tragic hero of all their own self-made problems
What would I do? What I would do isn’t what you would do. Here's the deal: Some people won't fucking like you, some people won't want to fuck you, and some people will simply think you fucking suck; but — what others think of you — isn't a reason to stop being you. Which is what you’ve done. You sacrificed yourself and for what? Look where’s it gotten you.
When you act with entitlement, you deserve disappointment.