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Hi Glad, I like you a lot, so I will respond. I've decided to stop going on this sub, so this will likely be my last comment. I also like triggurwarning and bumble so if they chimes in, I'll oblige. The metaphor is a simple one. There's really only 1 metaphor that's being used repeatedly. That's the metaphor of human interactions is "like" a game. When you play a game, what does it involve? Usually you have two players. And the interactions with each other is retrained by a set of rules. When yo…
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/22 09:04 PM
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Thank you again for your thoughtful comment. I don't mind getting into the nuance of the metaphor. But I understand you are busy, so please have a wonderful day.
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/22 07:51 PM
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This is an honest inquiry. Do you think this statement is true or false: 1) We teach other people how to treat us.
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/22 07:18 PM
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Fair enough. Thank you for your critique. I did mention that "I'll start with an abstract idea." It's to help explain the idea using a metaphor most people are familiar with. I guess it had the opposite effect. My intention, I think if you re read it, is to say you can have a situation where more than one person wins. You can have a win/lose, which I advise against, and you can seek to have a win/win, which is part of your critique that it's better to not argue in the 1st place. If you can reach…
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/22 06:57 PM
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Arguing is not playing with your spouse. Getting into an argument is lose - lose. Winning is a hollow victory. We're talking using metaphors here. I'm not suggesting that it's literally a game to be played. The use of the word argument is to depict a disagreement on both sides, where there's a possibility of tension rising if both or one party does not seek to resolve the situation amicably. Maybe I should have used the word disagreement instead. You're not going to make your spouse smarter. The…
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/22 05:40 PM
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honestly, your negotiation strategy is weird. you're treating a victory as winning against your spouse but having them be good with it, as if their acceptance is a win state. The example wasn't specific because you can apply it to many scenarios. I can give you an even more specific example. My wife is doing the dishes and drops a plate. It breaks. It happen a few times before. I can say a true statement about the situation. I can tell her, purely factual statements, you broke several plates, yo…
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/22 05:14 PM
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That's a great question. And I sympathize 100%. I understand the world is unfair. We see this in the mgtow movement, and people always ask why did such a movement came about? To me it's obvious. These men constantly lost or was never invited to play. For whatever reasons. And the unfairness that they felt translated to them opting out of playing the game. That's why mgtow acronym is "men going their own way". They've decided it's no longer worth playing the game, whatever game they've decided wa…
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/22 03:57 PM
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This advice works for all relations, platonic ones too. If we say how many romantic relationship I've had, it's 1. If we say how many relationships total, probably a dozen currently. You can implement this with your friends, family, and customers. But I think the more important question isn't how many relationship, it's is your relationship good? The answer is yes, my relationship with my wife is very good.
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/22 02:12 PM
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Indeed. Individual success and success as a society are two different goals. Individually, you can be successful by just being a spern donor and living the mgtow dream. Societal wise, it would require everyone, both men and women to work in harmony, which is more difficult to achieve.
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/22 02:05 PM
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I agree she's over the top in terms of her requirements. I'm just speaking in generalities. Sorry for not clarifying.
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/22 01:56 PM
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The way I see it, it's the burden of performance that a man must maintain. It's a hard life as a man, but we do it because we have no other option if we want to be successful.
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/22 12:21 PM
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That's the conclusion I came to. I like to think that the white pill. I know some people reading this will say things like, life's not fair. Why wasn't I born in a wealthy family? Why wasn't I born with good genes? I get it. Life truly is unfair. But the worst thing you can do in life is rob your future self of love because you decided it wasn't worth pursuing. There's that saying, don't care about the haters. Live your life fully. People don't realize that the worst enemy isn't the person outsi…
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/22 08:57 PM
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I agree with your statement overall. People have a hard time overcoming their past. Personally, I resented my father as a child. He worked 2-3 jobs and was never home. The neglect turned into resentment. And the resentment turned into hatred. And you combine that with my weakness of moral character as a man, I also feared him. It was very hard to come to the conclusion that I was wrong. It was very hard to muster the courage to forgive him. And it was also very hard to stand up to him in an argu…
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/22 08:12 PM
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I don't understand why you said "but". I agree with both statements prior and after the but, I don't see how they are exclusionary or opposites.
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/22 07:00 PM
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is there any white lie you told and it kind of worked like people forget and nothing happened?Even if that happened,you felt bad lying? I understand the temptation to tell a white lie. When I was younger I told white lies and got away without paying the consequences. There were some white lies that I got caught and had to pay both the consequences and the humiliation of getting caught. Do I feel bad about lying even if I don't get caught. When I was younger, no. Would I feel guilty now? Yes. And…
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/22 05:12 PM
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I agree. What you say is true. I'm just saying humans can transcend their own weakness. And it's not an easy task to do, because most people fail.
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/22 01:34 PM
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I agree. People give up too quickly when things get difficult. The human spirit can transcend even the evils of the holocaust. If you find yourself becoming nihilistic with a roof over your head, plumbing, heating, cooling, food to eat, and disposable income, then that's not a situation problem. It's a you problem. You're just too weak. Don't blame the world for your weakness.
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/22 01:32 PM
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I understand the joke. It made me chuckle. I would say I was a kissless virgin until I was 28. Now I'm married for 4 years, 2 kids, loving relationship, own a house, fixed my relationship with my father and mother and so forth.
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/22 01:27 PM
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I understand what you mean by white lies. I used to tell white lies to avoid conflict. But it makes the relationship superficial. If the relationship can't handle honesty, then it's not worth pursuing. It's a good litmus test to dispense with the bad relations. I made 4 distinct categories of relationship. You don't need all 4, but you need atleast 1. Even though I said it's not ranked, it's should start with yourself 1st. If your relationship with yourself is pristine, you can hold depression a…
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/22 12:10 PM
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I don't know why you think being honest is only possible in certain situations. Honesty is possible in every situation. The question is, can you handle the consequences of that honesty? It's better to be truthful all the time. I'm not old, but for the 32 years I've been alive, I've never seen it worked any other way. Lies eventually unravel. Lies make you feel weak. Lies always haunt you. Only when I've decided to be honest is when I felt the weight lift off my soul. It's difficult to be honest …
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/22 10:53 AM
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It's obvious advice, but it's not easy to do. There's reasons why people have addiction, overweight, or live miserable lives. A part of the reason is people lie to themselves all the time. You can't start the healing process if you're not honest about the problem. You would be lying to yourself if you think there's people out there that wouldn't need this advice.
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/22 10:43 AM
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Imagine being that person on the internet that criticize the most milktoast of advices.
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/22 01:22 AM
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I see what you're saying. No, I don't think a majority of women prefer thinnish men. If I were to guess what percentage of women between the age of 18-25 prefer what body type: 5% - Thin 70% - fit 20% - muscle 5% - hulk I think most women prefer fit men with a little muscle, like justin beiber
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/22 05:00 PM
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Yes, men prefer younger women. How does a man preference relate to a woman's preference?
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/22 04:49 PM
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Well, I will let you know now, dying from loneliness is actually a medical condition, and they actually classify the cause of death is from loneliness. Not suicide. I forgot the number, it's not huge, maybe 5000/year in the USA die from loneliness. Majority of those deaths are women.
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/22 04:42 PM
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I think that's where you're over selling the benefits of soft-maxing. It's true that clear healthy skin is attractive. It's true that acessories, dressing well is attractive. It's true that light makeup can boost your attractiveness. But all in all, the most attractive people, even young leonardo, have good genetics. https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/z_UchRBE.kPZwBKzZVfghg--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTY0MDtoPTUxMg--/https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/X6IUqHYnqaXYzU0.SJ4tGQ--~B/aD00MDA7dz01MDA7YXBw…
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/22 02:52 PM
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We're both in agreement. I think face, and by that extension, good genes (cause you can have a good body too), is what matters to most people. I would also extend the reason why. Because most people interaction with the world is shallow. We don't have time to dig into the finer details of a person, and opt to judge them quickly. This quick judgement is predominantly appearance.
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/22 02:31 PM
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https://i.pinimg.com/474x/69/84/c0/6984c0477563120b4c4aeab63043169a.jpg It's all in the face. You keep bringing up Justin Beiber as an example of the e-boy. Take a look at his body. https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/hRhxoQiuOcO0Z12ZLcLvWOwgeWs/fit-in/2048xorig/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2014/09/10/560/n/1922398/f50d478d96155e64_455084100_10/i/Justin-Bieber-Shirtless-During-Fashion-Rocks-Photos.jpg He's not buff but he's got an athletic body, which is obvious since he's …
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/22 01:24 PM
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Time has everything to do with it. Here's a few things to consider. Let me know if you think any of this is untrue. 1) You have freewill and you have the power to make decisions in life. 2) Your decisions in life will have benefits/consequences, regardless if you intend them to happen or not. 3) The accumulation of your decisions in life will result in the final analysis of your life. In consideration of all of these 3 points, I'm not dismissing getting cancer or getting hit by lightning. There …
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/22 08:13 PM
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That's the thing about life. If it's important to you, you will make time for it.
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/22 07:42 PM
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I see more and more women coming out against the feminist narrative and promoting marriage and family as a precursor to career. I think the narrative is shifting as millennia women started crossing over the age of 40. They are become disenchanted by what feminism promised them. They were promise to have it all. Husband, family, career. But they find themselves alone and working a job they hate. The honest ones are starting to sound the alarm to younger women not to fall for the same trap they've…
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/22 04:34 PM
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Well written post. Thank you for the effort. It was an enjoyable read. I also married a foreign wife. Men by nature are problem solvers. So if you give us a problem, we will find solutions.
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/22 11:35 AM
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I have done researching and found out yes hook up culture doesn't have any negative or strong negative affects on individual but it doesn't have a lasting positive impact and won't resolve deep psychological problems nor will it give you the same benefits as healthy relationship Just read the synopsis only The results show that CSREs had a small impact (small effect sizes) on subsequent psychological well-being, especially among girls; FWB relationships involving penetrative contact increased gi…
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/22 05:10 PM
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I would say your worldview reflects a neo-Marxist value. Both men as and women are treated equally in society and have access to participate in all kinds of jobs even though there are certain jobs men are more wide spread and certain jobs women are more wide spread in. Men and women are for the most part, treated equally. It's because men and women are different that the outcome are different. The neo-Marxist ideology is that men and women are the same/interchangeable. This is a false idea. Men …
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/22 02:03 PM
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Hmmm. Are you taking the birth control pill?
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/22 11:20 AM
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There's always a mix of victim/perpetrator in all movements. Even the red pill and black pill has a mix of that. Early day feminism had good points about people taking responsiblity for their own destiny. I agree with that premise. Modern day feminism has a lot of bad points about blaming others. I don't agree with that. I look around me and all I see are spoiled millennial. It begs the question. What came first? Victim culture or spoiled brats? These things feed off each other in a symbiotic re…
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/22 06:32 PM
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When it doesn't benefit them, it's part of the patriarchy. Like the blue pill, it's a huge cope to not take responsibility for their own choices in life and blame someone else for their problems. Not making a lot of money? Wage gap. Not being successful with dates? Toxic masculinity. Being overweight? Blame it on male beauty standards. Anyone who points out the ridiculousness of their ideology? Part of the patriarchy. Feminism is victim ideology. It only teaches women they are the victim and men…
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/22 11:12 AM
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Blue pill is the cope pill. It typically gives you false rationales why things haven't worked out for you. It gives you false impressions of reality. It tends to give you the easy way out in life, which can work for some people, but it's typically not the correct solution. Most solution for fundamental problems in life require hard work. Most people who are looking for easy solutions will fall prey to the blue pill. It's an easy thing to accept. Most humans are lazy in their relationship. Exampl…
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/22 02:30 PM
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Thank you for inquiring. It forced me to verify the point. I will have to recant my statement as I have mis-interpreted the talking point. The correct statement is 32% of paternity test found fraud. Thus the sample is bias towards men who already have suspicion that their child may not be theirs. Thus we cannot conclude it to represent the whole population. Roughly 300,000 paternity test are done yearly in the USA. There's roughly 3,700,000 births per year in the USA. The number of paternity tes…
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/22 05:07 PM
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Most men don't even know they have a low t problem. Once they do, they will do the things you mentioned.
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/22 12:42 AM
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30% of women in the USA admit to paternity fraud. The numbers are likely higher. Paternity test should be mandatory. Sorry folks. This is a false statement. It's 32% of paternity test found fraud. But the actual incident rate in the population is 2%. Paternity test shouldn't be mandatory, BUT it should be legal to request one if suspicion is held by the father.
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/22 11:22 PM
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I agree with your statement. I think makeup will work for hook ups. Anything past the 1 day mark will be hard to keep up. Men also don't like being deceived too. I read a story that a man killed his wife when he found out she had major plastic surgery. That's why men prefer women with less makeup. They want to know what her true genetics are.
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/22 10:41 PM
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It's a compensation for the lack of masculinity in society. Like when a void is created, air rushes in to replace it. Male masculinity has been on a steady decline over 50 years. If you want to get conspiratorial about it, it's a plan by the powers to be to make men more docile. Lower t levels are a strong indicator of this masculine decline. Now that I've open my eyes to what true masculinity is, all I see are weak beta bitches. Lack of stoism. Everyone is overly emotional. Skinny pants and man…
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/22 10:38 PM
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Lets not lower the bar because obesity is an epidemic in the west. She's a 4 with make up. A 3 without make up. All those landwhales and chubby girls are lower than her. I get what you're saying though. Women as a whole have let themselves go, so in that sense, she's above average. But I'll make the argument, pretty girls don't need to make a resume, print it out, then hand them out and suffer rejection. That's too much work and taxing on their ego. If you read her post, only 1 guy that worked a…
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/22 07:54 PM
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I believe we've enter a new paradigm in the dating market. Pre-industrial era, money was mostly a product of hard work, manual labor and intelligence. Because men we're more physically stronger than women, men were more valued as a labor force than women. Thus men typically made the bread. Women who lacked resources would made a calculative trade off with her potential spouse. She would balance resource, looks and personality. Because resource acquisition was difficult, it was common that resour…
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/22 07:43 PM
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My wife of 4 years came from southeast asia. I brought her back to the west to live with me. Her upbringing was more traditional. Most people got married out of highschool and had kids. Though western ideologies are starting to creep into the culture. I didn't date her. Went straight to engagement then marriage. She's hard working. I taught her a lot about self responsibility and about how to live life. She's smart. We're both clean and tidy people, so our personality compliments each other well…
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/22 04:28 PM
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What's confusing to me is that everyone here is saying she's hot. No. She's a 4/10 with make up. She looks old and I wouldn't be surprised if she's 30. She's punching way above her weight limit. All the guys in those photos are tall, fit men. I can't see their faces but judging from their physique I would rate them 7/10. She's desperate for quality men. She's not giving that resume to Joe Smo.
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/22 02:30 PM
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If you want an answer for prefer penis size here it is: So, after weeks of work and research we found that the average dildo measures up at a full length of 7.52" (19.1 cm), beating the average penis which stands at 5.16" (13.1 cm). However, the usable length differs, as you need room for your hand holding a dildo. By such, the usable dildo length is only 6.54" (16.6 cm). Still, that makes the average dildo 21% longer. When it comes to girth there is less difference. The width of the average siz…
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/22 07:58 PM
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That's hard to answer. Because how much is personality inferred by looks? There's a known phenomenon called the halo effect. Where people were prescribe adjectives for their actions. As the study found, people who were unattractive, were associated with negative adjectives. While people who were attractive were associated with positive adjectives. So the same action, words, and tone can be used by two different people, but depending on how they look, the perceiver will judge their personality di…
/r/AllPillDebate06/09/22 08:03 PM
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I think the "thirst" that we see, is more of a desperation for a lack of basic affection. Studies show that woman are aroused when prompted or suggested. While men are the ones doing the prompting or suggesting. I don't think women are any less sexually interested than men. I'm more incline to believe that, that's the matrix that people want us to believe. Women purity is what men desire, and women know this. So they like to under report their libido to give the impression that they are more pur…
/r/AllPillDebate06/09/22 07:58 PM
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I understand those points. But what do you think her motives would be personally to seek out sex? If it's in excess, it must be because she finds it pleasurable to do so? She's not seeking any financial gains nor is she seeking a child or a relationship.
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/22 10:17 PM
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What do you think about the younger generation of women who are sleeping around, not receiving any monetary benefit nor any commitment? Example, a 19 year old with a body count of 50, giving it away for free. Not even a meal.
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/22 12:45 PM
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That's fine. I already know about men in dead bedroom. The researcher showed that women are more inclined for various sexual experience. Men seem more satisfied with the same experience. How much would that factor into the discussion? Maybe men with dead bedroom have poor dick game, and they wouldn't admit it as it would bruise their ego?
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/22 11:47 PM
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Point well taken. I agree porn has deluded many people, including myself!
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/22 08:57 PM
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There's definitely outliers. I think you have a very masculine primal desire to conquer and dominate.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/22 05:50 PM
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Could be. There that trope in the red pill community. A women will give a man vanilla sex if he's beta, and give anal and threesome to chad. Her willingness to do things outside of the norm is correlated to how much she's attracted to you. You want a women who's really into you. That means she finds you super attractive. I get that. I have those feelings too.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/22 04:49 PM
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It's okay. Everyone is trying to tear me a new one lol. I got thick skin. From the sounds of it, it seems like you enjoy dominating your women sexually. I think that's normal, I too have the feeling. Maybe your primal proclivity to dominate is higher than most men. You would probably do well with bdsm play.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/22 04:34 PM
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It is obvious. So then you must agree, women in those situation will not be forth coming about the reason they are leaving the marriage. Many women in that situation will say "my husband was perfect... BUT..." followed by a series of lies that has nothing to do with sexual satisfaction. Maybe it's her trying to protect the ego of her husband?
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/22 04:11 PM
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The wall is the difference between your expectations vs reality. If your expectations for partner aligns with the reality of what you have to offer, then the wall doesn't exist. If your expectation for a partner is outside of reality, the wall can be so high, you'll never get past it. This advice is for people in general, not just women. Do things that are meaningful in life. Build genuine relationships with friends and family.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/22 04:03 PM
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That's a fair critique. Do you think it's a fair statement to say: It's easier for men to orgasm with any woman, than it is for women to orgasm with any man?
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/22 03:08 PM
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Fair enough. It was the conventional theists that men have higher libido. So one of the studies done was to determine a person libido. They had three different methods. your response will be looked at you're hooked up to a lie detector and the researchers will know if you're lying You're response will not be looked at They found with the 1st method, men over reported their libido. Women under reported. With method 2 and 3, they found that women and men libido were similar (men slightly higher). …
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/22 03:03 PM
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You know, you bring an excellent point about this: Most people these days just bail when things get stagnant. It's not discussed much but social media has conditioned people to have shorter attention spans. Social media also condition people to lack social skills. It also prevents people from engaging in conflict resolution. It's easier to just block someone you hate online, then having to figure out how to live with them for the next several years. These skill sets that are highly valued in mai…
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/22 02:11 PM
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Since you've mentioned your status, I am also married, just to put that into context. My thing is I don’t understand why N number can be a dealbreaker (considering no STD’s). Evidence show n-count = higher divorce rates. When presented with such raw data, men come together to discuss the possible reasons why. We actually don't know for certain, because you can't go into the minds of these people. You can only speculate why. If we had a genuine discussion right now about why, what reasons would y…
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/22 02:02 PM
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I wish I could give you a forum to seek out, but I get most of my info from youtube. You can see it from my reddit subscribe, I don't subscribe to any of the red pill forums here... If you want an introduction to red-pill content without becoming enraged, I would recommend just pearly things on youtube. Maybe watch 1 full podcast without cuts or edits and see the arguments in it's full context. A lot of small clips are taken out of context.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/22 01:33 PM
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“Women will cheat on men if they aren’t satisfied sexually. And part of the unsatisfied feeling comes from experiencing many dicks.” <—- who told you that?! Isn't that a common feeling in life? If you've experience a "high", you'll want to re-experience it again or seek a higher "high"? It doesn't have to be about sex. People who had good food will find normal food more bland. People who had amazing vacation experience will be unsatisfied with regular trips. People who worked with a great boss, …
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/22 01:24 PM
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You're reading too much into it if you think I'm arguing a black or white issue. I'm just examining one reason that isn't talked about in the red pill community. Men are fully aware that women want several things. They want a provider, protector, a friend, etc. But no one talks about women wanting a good sexual partner. It's like a taboo subject.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/22 01:09 PM
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We're talking about heterosexual relations here. Are you going to argue not all men like pussy?
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/22 01:00 PM
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''why women cheat more' ' which is untrue in most countries. That's fair. I never intended to argue this point. I'm mostly interested in the reasons for infidelity. Here's a quote from the article: “The women studied went on the site, created a profile, vetted candidates, met them in person and ‘auditioned’ them. This was a very intentional process. They wanted to find partners for sex. They reported being in sexless or orgasm-less marriages and they simply wanted what they couldn’t get at home.…
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/22 12:28 PM
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It's basically foreplay before intercouse. Make sure she's nice and wet naturally. This will help getting her to climax before you do. And then just hit the g spot. I just googled this stuff.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/22 11:41 AM
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I think its equal when they are young. But it's known that men libido drops in their 30, especially if they have kids. And catnigari argued that a women's libido stays strong until her 50s when she start to go through menopause.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/22 11:34 AM
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Do you think it's a true statement or false?
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/22 11:28 AM
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What do you think about women having stronger libido than men? Culturally it was thought that men had the stronger libido, but study has shown women do.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/22 11:22 AM
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This isn't an argument on how frequent people cheat. It's an argument about why. Do women not have strong libido? Do they not want sex as much as men?
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/22 11:17 AM
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You can have your own argument about oral, but I'm making the argument that dick game is important. So why don't we talk about the importance of a good dick and using it to make a woman orgasm? I know for a fact, women compare dicks and which one they like the best. You're avoiding that fact and trying to make it out like the number doesn't matter if no dick was involved. Yeah, if no dick was involved, the number wouldn't matter. But that's the most disingenuous statement ever. Noone just gives …
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/22 11:15 AM
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You're not being honest. I know for a fact, women have a preference for dick size. Stop acting like a women will treat all dick the same.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/22 11:07 AM
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Dick game and a woman's n-count. I always believed dick game was important, so as a virgin, I made the effort to research how to please my wife. The 1st time it was nerve racking, but now I'm very confident. I think it was a wise move on my part to learn dick game.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/22 01:27 AM
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You have to get more primitive than that. When humans first left the trees and started walking on two legs. Before we made our first tools to hunt. Before we discovered fire to cook the meat. It's estimated we discovered fire around 400,000 years ago. And that's linked to our cranium size expanding. So before fire was discovered, our primitive brains weren't sophisticated enough to even talk. I doubt 4 million years ago, we were smart enough to trade resources for sex. Look at our closest relati…
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/22 01:16 AM
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Men who don't get enough sex from their wives probably have weak dick game tbh. The women doesn't get an orgasm, so she doesn't feel like doing it. I make sure to have good dick game. My wife still wants sex even with two kids.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/22 12:50 AM
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How long in human history do you think the concept of resources exist? Maybe when humans founded fire? Or when they made the 1st tool? If humans are 4.2 million years old, would it be more reasonable to think biological dimorphism happened during our more primitive times? Maybe before we even had the ability to talk?
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/22 12:40 AM
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It's not conventional to discuss. Most people like to be private about the sexual experience. I think stable relationships also require the ability to pleasure both parties. A man should have good dick game if he wants to be desirable.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/22 12:34 AM
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Can you specify what is BS?
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/22 11:05 PM
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I dont see why it would be confusing if you read my full post. A women who had a really good dick will remember that guy for the rest of her life. And will compare her future partners to that good dick. For the most part, all women's vaginas are the same. As for men, dick size can vary a great deal, and there is a preferred size. Women will cheat on men if they aren't satisfied sexually. And part of the unsatisfied feeling comes from experiencing many dicks. That's what the article pointed out. …
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/22 10:19 PM
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I don't see how this is exclusionary. Woman can have multiple reasons for mating. A higher libido can be one of them. Acquiring access to resources can be another. When I say think way back when we just branched off from our closest ancestors, you ignore that. You went directly before the agricultural revolution to the hunter gatherer society. This feature for increase libido could have evolved 200,000 years ago, before we even found fire. I had to do a google search to see how old humans can po…
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/22 07:22 PM
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It has already happened in Japan. Shootings is like 1 incel out of 100,000. It happens but it's rare.
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/22 07:18 PM
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Can we go back even further in time, maybe when we just branched off from our closest chimp relative? Agriculture is 10,000 year old. Our human history dates back 200,000 years.
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/22 07:05 PM
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I get a lot of hate for wanting to end the welfare state. If you think about it, wanting the end the welfare state is a sign of loving the future generation and taking on the burden of the past generation. I would rather suffer myself and fund my own retirement, than ask my future grandsons and granddaughters to fund it. And if that kills me, so be it, but I'm sick of robbing the younger generations of their future. I know this is off topic, just wanted to rant a little.
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/22 06:11 PM
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I'm with you there brother! Actually, the more I see, the more I'm convinced the devil is real. And that's actually what's pushing me to become more religious. I went from an atheist to a theist recently. Crazy that's the way I start to believe in God lol.
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/22 05:47 PM
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I think this would be a normal set of expectations pre-internet era. I think you have to take into consideration with the evolution of VR-technology, sex dolls, porn, substance abuse, video games, and etc, the male "rage" will be a pathetic passive aggressive whimper.
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/22 05:37 PM
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I would like to expand on your thesis in an intellectual discussion. Your theory on demographics (which I agree with), also coincided with economical events. The removal of the gold standard to fiat currency has created a situation of borrowing from the future. Policies like old age pension, national debt, interest rates and etc are all forms of wealth distribution from the "future" to the "present". What happens when we do this, we inflate the abundance of wealth we have currently, making it se…
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/22 04:01 PM
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She only suffered because her frame game was weak! /s
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/22 11:20 AM
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I would argue they wouldn't even get out of bed. They'll probably look at their sex doll, then look outside at the burning buildings, and decide, fuck it, ill just jerk one off then go back to sleep. Path of least resistance.
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/22 11:13 AM
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You know the joke? Men will live in a cardboard box if he could still fuck a women. Here's some things to think about. Married men make more money than unmarried men. 80% of consumer spending is decided by women. Men generally make more money by working longer hours. Not by working smarter. Tax base is heavy subsidized by men. Net average, men pay more into taxes each year than they take out. Women, take out more in taxes than they put in. Men opting out is like basically men not working as much…
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/22 11:09 AM
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Can't blame us though. You only mentioned he contributes 90% into the savings. :)
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 07:28 PM
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Oh. That's a different impression I got from the post. Sounded like he was the breadwinner.
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 07:22 PM
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Indeed. The only benefit would be to satisfy the inquiring mind. But it actually won't change a woman's mind on that point, because, as an example, the wage gap has been throughly disproven hundreds of times throughout the decades, but you still have feminist to this day believing it's real. So it wouldn't matter if we have hard evidence, people will believe what they believe and life will go on.
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 05:44 PM
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I'll like to think the best in you, so I will assume you have good intentions. I skim through the article quickly, there's still prejudice against single fathers, so you will have to find an orphanage that feels comfortable in letting you adopt a child.
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 05:09 PM
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I did a quick google search. It seems like they are making regulations more lax to adopt a child as a single man. https://www.wikihow.com/Adopt-a-Child-As-a-Single-Man This is very recent, Feb, 2022. I guess they are overwhelmed with too many orphans and not enough people looking to raise children.
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 05:05 PM
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They have to protect against potential predators or pedophiles.
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 04:53 PM
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childless men and women seem to be on fairly even intellectual footing with the exception of the true outlier geniuses being men. Men and woman have very similar IQs on average. It's a fair observation. The claim that there's a shift towards higher IQ for men will result in exactly what you see, outliers of geniuses. Not sure about the impact of pregnancy though. The brain changes are a trip. Babies are literally cuter now that I've had one. I can't claim my brain is unchanged. I can still claim…
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 04:39 PM
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Frankly, it's not going to be a blood bath. Most undesirable men are low testosterone, fat and pacified with porn and games. Polygamy is already happening. Low value men just hide and placate themselves with illusions. My prediction, is men will opt out of society. The tax base is heavily reliant on men working, so the government will collapse. Women will lose faith in both men and government and be drugged with anti-depressants, while the birth rate plummets. A new nation will either emerge fro…
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 04:16 PM
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The point is it's not 50/50. You have a loaded gun to his head given to you by divorce laws. You can end his life anytime you desire. If you're confident that your marriage is functional, sign a postnuptial agreement saying if you divorce him without cause, then you'll forfeit the 90% of his income to your joint account.
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 04:04 PM
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People are shifting the goal post of my point. My point was in reference to the other reddit user who didn't have a father figure to vet her baby daddy. Now she's miserable and blames the man for being a jerk. I never intended to make this some sort of law. It was only a suggestion on how people should go about vetting their spouses. The same could be said for men, bringing their wife to meet the mother.
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 02:09 PM
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You skip the part where I said I made 50k. I'm not rich. We rented a 2 bedroom apartment for the first 3 years.
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 01:57 PM
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I don't think any sociologist will do an iq study because it's not politically correct.
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 01:56 PM
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That's the lie. The study on intelligence were done on teenagers. Girls go through puberty sooner than boys, so their brains were more developed. They studied that cohort of girls vs boys and found girls were more intelligent than boys. Then they took that data and said, women are more intelligent than men. No one dare do a study of the intelligence of men after the age of 25, when their brains are fully developed. Any study done in that age range doesn't take IQ, but looks at grades and course …
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 01:48 PM
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I agree that institutions can become corrupt. You're making the argument that I'm suggestion legalization of a father right to choose his daughter spouse. 1st off, that's not what I'm suggesting. I said it twice now, the daughter is the one who chooses. 2nd, there's nothing malicious in asking for your dad to vet your partner. If you trust your dad and knows that he loves you, he will have the wisdom to balance the practicality of the relationship vs the fulfillment. 3rd, how will the father acc…
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 01:41 PM
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I married my wife when she was 19 and I was 28. She doesn't work. I made 50k for the first 3 years of marriage. Now I make 70k. 4 years married, 2 kids. I'm not speaking out of my ass with these suggestions. A woman can married and date someone older, more wise, and have a stable income. All the stuff you want in life is superficial. There's very few things in life you actually need. If you're mindset is based on acquiring comfort and luxury goods, you'll never have enough money to fill that voi…
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 01:33 PM
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Your so clueless. New toys and summer vacations are luxuries. Parents who don't spend quality time with their kids opt to spoil their kids.
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 12:56 PM
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Nice strawman. Apparently vetting a daughter's choice as a screening process is now men selling their daughter's for financial gains.
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 12:50 PM
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Oh, I thought you were a man. My mistake. To find a traditionally minded man, it would be probably the same advice. Outside of western influence or very conservative areas. Most western men are effeminate and hold no masculine energy. If I was a woman, I wouldn't date a western man that believes in feminism. It's a red-flag. You're point about grandparents is very intelligent and true. My parents are very busy bodies and work all the time. They rarely helped my wife and I with raising our kids. …
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 12:49 PM
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Women are inferior also in their intellect. There's a reason why men make most of the inventions, are the top chess players, and so forth.
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 12:36 PM
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I think adoption agency will only consider you as a potential guardian if you're married with kids or unable to have kids. Being single is a red flag for any adoption agency.
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 12:34 PM
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That's what's wrong with people. Their idolization of money as a precursor to family. What people want aren't kids, or their kids well being when they talk about money. What they really want is a lifestyle and luxury. I have two kids, and they couldn't care less about money. What they want is love and affection, a full stomach and a warm place to sleep. You can do that with 50k. If you work 70 hours a week and make 100k, do you think that money will help serve the best interest of your kids? 1) …
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 12:00 PM
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She said having kids is difficult work. But it's well worth the effort. Edit: it's not apparent in her comment, but I've spoken with her many times.
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 11:32 AM
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Lol. Referring to her mindset about having children and loving them. Western women are taught to hate children.
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 11:23 AM
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It's more of a cultural issue than practical. People have the freewill to do any number of things. The whole career 1st, family 2nd mentality is a western ideology. The rest of the world is family 1st, career 2nd. People always harp about 2 income being necessary. Actually, 1 income of about 100k can get you very far, even in city centers. Daycare itself is a money sink. A woman raising her own children is equivalent to 80k salary. Also, having kids is actually more straightforward than choosing…
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 11:22 AM
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They just don't make them like you no more!
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 02:32 AM
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It's like a millionaire giving advice to people on how to make money, and then the poor person says they know better. Continue playing the victim. That's what you'll end up as. Or you can play the hero and actually succeed in life, regardless of your past trauma.
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 02:31 AM
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No. You're using the cover of victim blaming to hide the fact that you refuse to take any accountability for your own actions. You think you're the only person who's lived a hard life? Everyone goes through shit. It's you're decisions on how you react that will determine you're outcome. That's the point of freewill. You think I'm mean? If you actually listen and took my advice on taking accountability, you're life would be much better than it is now. I don't give advice because I wish to harm yo…
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 01:57 AM
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You're not 100% responsible, but you still invited him into your life and put up with his abuse. I'm sure he was an asshole before you had kids with him, but still decided to have unprotected sex. If you're not going to own up how much you were responsible for your own misery, you haven't matured.
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 01:00 AM
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I didn't want to put a disclaimer on the advice. It should be obvious if you choose to marry early and have kids, you should get a high quality man to do so. It's unfortunate that you didn't have the wisdom to pick a good partner. In the past, a woman would let her father vet the partner, because other men can read men and see through the game. Same way other women can see though women games. The advice is in contrast to the ever growing cohort of woman who aim for their career first and end up …
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 12:23 AM
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It is. It's the 200 year cycle of civilization.
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 12:19 AM
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You picked a bad man.
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 12:17 AM
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Those are fair critiques. I'm not very trusting of the government, so i wouldn't be surprised if the program becomes compromised and corrupted. It's like trying to solve a problem by making it bigger. Maybe we're past the point in solving it and we just have to wait for the collapse.
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/22 11:31 PM
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Well, I'm against welfare and daycare in general. So my solution would be to stop subsidizing schools and media. Make everything private. Lower tax ofcourse. Many public schools can get away with indoctrination because parents are paying unqualified educators to teach their kids through the strong arm of the government. Also if you stop subsidizing media, these left leaning media outlets would collapse as they have actually very little viewership. Then to top it off, getting rid of welfare would…
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/22 11:07 PM
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For sure. That's why it's so controversial lol. I'm doing my part in just preaching the gospel anywhere I go. I'm just one man, but I'm gonna do it.
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/22 10:49 PM
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All of my opinions are probably controversial. If I had to choose one, it would be woman should get married and have kids at a younger age, like early twenties would be ideal.
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/22 10:33 PM
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Is that an endorsement of his claim about gender ratio?
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/22 10:28 PM
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Would it be a fair statement to say, the pros would be less violence overall, but the con would be, maybe less technological advancements(assuming it's a good thing).
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/22 10:10 PM
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In the video, they talked about why fashion run way models looked androgynous, tall, skinny and chisel jaw-line. It was because the men who were in charge of the fashion industry were homosexuals. If a heterosexual man was in charge, his preferences would be on full display, and the runway models would look more like your typical porn star.
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/22 12:41 PM
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That's true. My thoughts aren't well formulated, but thanks to talking to you, I can articulate it better. I guess the main thing is the entitlement or expectation that a women should not be paying for their spouse. I guess culturally, a man is under the false impression that all men pay alimony, and it's expected, so as much as they complain about having to do it, society at large just accepts. The whole woman paying alimony is relatively new, and just started being spot lighted in pop media. Y…
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/22 10:20 PM
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That's true. Maybe it's not shock, maybe the right word is pissed.
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/22 10:06 PM
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Thanks for the suggestion. I think I will. My understanding is the law is fair. Whoever makes more money is the party that pays alimony. Typically it was men. Now woman are beginning to out earn their spouse, and when they divorce, they are shocked that they have to pay alimony.
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/22 09:37 PM
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My theory behind this inconsistency would be, these male attorneys desire a young hot thing, but because they're so smart and practical, they understand the inherent risk if they did. So they've opt for a more reliable and safe alternative, and to be politically correct, they will use the excuse of conversation and lifestyle as the determining factor, instead of revealing their inner most fears of being divorced. As for the reasons for divorce, I may have a skew view of the reasons. I never talk…
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/22 09:25 PM
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Well, happiness itself doesn't improve much after 80k(probably 120k with current inflation). So money isn't really a selling point. And its very interesting that your example is all attorneys. They are all probably well aware of divorce statistics.
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/22 09:10 PM
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Interesting. If I had to speculate, I would say those men are afraid of divorce rape. I know you're saying it has to do more with conversation and lifestyle. I'm pretty pessimistic so I would guess those are just excuses to hide their true motive. As for woman, I would say the same thing, instead of divorce rape, they want men to just earn more than them in general. And they hide that shallow aspect of their preference with the excuse of conversation and lifestyle.
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/22 09:03 PM
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Yeah, I should have specified what type of work. Typically low collar jobs or manual labor. Women look down on these types of jobs so being associated with it would lower their reputation
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/22 05:16 PM
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Would you agree that male criteria for a partner is a shorter list than a female's criteria for a partner? If yes, would you agree that we may weigh the importance of each criteria differently, but if the list of criteria is small to begin with, it generally adds more weight to each criteria? So I agree both men and woman are visual creatures, and they both would prefer an ascetically pleasing partner. But because woman list is longer than men in terms of their wants/needs for a partner, the imp…
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/22 04:06 PM
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Yeah, I dont find iq attractive. I find iq necessary for producing smart babies. So you have a point that it's not relevant for attraction.
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/22 03:50 PM
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What's interesting is YouTube is a male dominated platform. 80% of users on YouTube are male. I listen to YouTube content while working.
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/22 12:04 PM
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Lol. I may be wrong or out dated info, but I do recall her saying in one of her podcast something like "hey, if there's any quality man out there that likes gingers, call me" This was 2 months ago, so maybe she's not single now, but the amount of work she's been doing would make me assume she doesn't have time to date.
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/22 11:51 AM
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You're right.
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/22 11:35 AM
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As far as I know, she is married. I skim through her content, but her content isn't really thought provoking, but her audience demographic is mainly targeted to young women. Similar to justpearlythings, she knows a lot of talking points, but it's not thought provoking nor is it sophisticated or well thought out. I think she has a team of male writers giving her various comebacks or debate points, as it seems she uses the same ones over and over again without any real depth. My critism to justpea…
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/22 11:34 AM
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Don't be too harsh on the lady. Iq is still relevant, genetic offspring iq are similar to that of their parents. Education on the other hand is indeed irrelevant, or can be seen as a negative (indoctrination) from my perspective.
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/22 11:19 AM
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Aren't they just competing for attention? It doesn't have to be exclusively male attention. Getting attention from other females is just as good.
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/22 08:33 PM
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Lol. Ouch about the nail. I'm glad it didn't hit your eye!
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/22 07:50 PM
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Yes but there is a limit. Research actually shows that if you take the average american woman and the strength of their make up, men actually are more interested in light make up on average. I'll link the research when I have time I believe you! You don't have to if it's takes too much time.
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/22 07:27 PM
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Male here. I think the nail thing is a status symbol to show to other females. "Yeah bitch, I ain't gotta work and can still afford these long ass nails." And make up in general is a competition for the male gaze. I personally don't like make up, but men are visual creatures so it goes without say, that make up does attract the male gaze.
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/22 07:12 PM
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That was informative. Mainly it help explain why runway models look androgynous lol. Now it all makes sense.
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/22 06:48 PM
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I actually find no makeup more attractive as a dating prospect. My wife hasn't weared any make up since our wedding 4 years ago. I agree that make up can make the illusion of a more beautiful person, but because I understand how much make up can transform a person, I make the assumption that that person is actually ugly when I see them with a lot of make up on (specifically contouring).
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/22 06:46 PM
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I understand what you're saying. Love is a feeling that compels people toward sacrificing for another, and in some cases can be to the detriment of a person if their love becomes too extreme. I think we're saying the same thing, because you mention leadership is important to sustaining love between a man and a woman. I agree. Only difference is without that leadership, you still consider it as love or maybe "bad love". And then you have me, who would try to reclassify it as not love.
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/22 11:28 AM
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I don't understand your point. Some people have high n count. Some people have low n count. What's your question?
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/22 10:49 AM
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I'll give you an analogy. 1) You have people who own cars. 2) you have people who take ubers. Your mind is stuck on a 1 person per 1 car model. 10 people can use 1 car in 1 month. That's what it means by spinning plates.
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/22 10:35 AM
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Ok. I think we agree for the most part then. I was trying to interpret your comment, we both agree that love should be reciprocal? So it's hard to make a distinction of the responsible person and the emotional person. I see both parties as responsible in a loving relationship. When the distinction is drawn that one side is responsible and one side is emotional, that gave me the impression of a one sided relationship. I may have misunderstood your intentions.
/r/AllPillDebate28/08/22 12:29 PM
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Diametric meaning two opposite ways. Meaning one person is responsible aka, the giver. And one person is emotional, the receiver. Like your example about a man is responsible for the woman, it leaves out the part where the woman reciprocated and is responsible for the man. This leads to answering your questions to elaborate. I'll use myself as an example. I'm a husband. I go to work, I do the typical man things. My wife reciprocate the work I put in. She stays home. She cooks all the meals. She …
/r/AllPillDebate28/08/22 12:02 PM
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I think feeling like an asset is a bad way to put it. I get what you're saying. Feeling appreciated. Feeling valued. The reason I don't like that definition, is people can be manipulated out of their best interest to be assets. Stockholm syndrome for example. Or people who support Hitler during the nazi regime. They were happy and unified under the ideology, but they were doing evil things. You did mention at the end, too much love will make you do crazy stuff. Wouldn't using a different word li…
/r/AllPillDebate28/08/22 11:32 AM
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I think romance and love are two separate things. And yes, men are the romantic gender. Love on the other hand isn't something well define. I think people have a poor definition of love in their minds. My definition of love is "wanting the best in someone or something". When you say you love your child, what you're hopefully aspiring for the child is their growth towards functional independence. No trauma. Healthy body and mind. Good morals. Good friends and family. Etc, etc.
/r/AllPillDebate28/08/22 01:57 AM
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I agree. Hate is within everyone. It's only those that recognize it can learn to confront it.
/r/AllPillDebate27/08/22 06:12 PM
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That's lovely to hear! Childbirth and child rearing is difficult work, but it's worth it! I pray for you and your family to be blessed with love.
/r/AllPillDebate27/08/22 06:08 PM
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The 1st scenario is fair. Because either mom or baby will die, so the mom should get to decide who between the two will die. As for the 2nd one, the baby should be born. Then have palliative care for the child to give it a graceful death, instead of tearing its limbs.
/r/AllPillDebate27/08/22 06:05 PM
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Yeah, I'm not disagreeing. You're focus on the hypocrisy, which is a fair critism. I would add, I believe people should be responsible for themselves as much as possible. And I would like to live in a system that encourages people to be responsible. Abortion is the opposite of that. It's a way to dissolve people of consequences for their actions.
/r/AllPillDebate27/08/22 04:33 PM
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You and I aren't much different. My position on abortion is that I consider life at conception. And from that statement, abortion is murder. Full stop. And people can hate me all they want, I love life, I love children, I love women, I love men, so my heart is just full of love. The people who support abortion have hearts full of hate. They hate the biological father. They hate children. They hate life. They hate God. And if they don't know, they hate themselves.
/r/AllPillDebate27/08/22 04:04 PM
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Your right about that. I like to think reality is grounded in truth. So I try to separate truth and sexism. I don't think a man is sexist for saying "men are stronger than women". I think that's a true statement, not a sexist one. As for your example, yes women are sexist. Their explanations aren't grounded in truth, and base on their prejudices/false information/propaganda.
/r/AllPillDebate27/08/22 02:44 PM
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I agree with your point. I wouldn't say reality is sexist. Reality is fair.
/r/AllPillDebate27/08/22 01:14 PM
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Thanks for your honesty
/r/AllPillDebate27/08/22 10:33 AM
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You make all fair points in favor of woman's sexual prowess. Now you have to account for human evolution before birth control was invented. Woman who get pregnant are more vulnerable. Woman's fertility window compares to a man's before ivf. Also account for the fact that woman have conceal ovulation. And also woman who trick men with paternity fraud, and a man's strategy to ensure paternity before genetic testing.
/r/AllPillDebate27/08/22 04:02 AM
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I never said it was exclusively a woman's job. This post is asking about woman's job, so I answer.
/r/AllPillDebate27/08/22 03:47 AM
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Lol. A woman who sleeps with many men is inherently desirable? You have no clue what men actually desire.
/r/AllPillDebate27/08/22 03:31 AM
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Well, that's another lie you believe in. It's not happiness that will make you feel better. The solution to depression is living a meaningful life. If you want to live a meaningful life, you take on as much responsibility as possible and make yourself useful to yourself, your family and your community. Then you will have meaning that can sustain you even during the most tragic of times.
/r/AllPillDebate27/08/22 01:18 AM
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You have a fundamental problem in life. It's the question, where am I going? It's a question about your goals in life. It's a question about how you orient your life. You orient yourself towards a goal, and thats fundamentally predecated on knowledge. The more you know, the more accurate your orientation in life. You need truth, because it's the only way you can map out your course in life without getting lost. The depression you're encountering is the process of death and rebirth. When you lear…
/r/AllPillDebate27/08/22 01:10 AM
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If you logically thought those set of statements as fair statements. Do you think its odd that your assumption of me was a man who had casual sex, instead of a man who had very little?
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/22 11:29 PM
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Yeah, it's an analogy. There many, I just chose one that came to mind 1st. Another example would be anger. If someone gives you a reason to be angry, and you're a biological man with high testosterone, the biological urge to smash their face is very compelling. But morally, it's not right.
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/22 08:59 PM
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I do believe that. I think children are a great blessing. Edit: it's a sad world when people have so much hate in their hearts that they believe a child is not a blessing.
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/22 08:57 PM
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I believe 1st and foremost, the most important job a woman can have is raising the next generation of humans. Outside of that, you can do whatever you want. It's a free country. Just don't expect a handout if you failed at the job.
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/22 08:29 PM
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Yeah. I apologize. I figured that after rethinking. I think he could have worded it better. Women are attracted to masculine traits. Not msygony. I don't like the conflation.
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/22 04:14 PM
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Well said. As you've described, people like to make justifications for their behavior based on biology and not on morality. Yes. It's true that a man who sleeps with many women is desirable. Yes. It's true that a woman who sleeps with many men is not desirable. There's a very strong biological argument for that. We accept men and women are different. But these biological justification are voided of the moral argument. Here's an example. You're starving. You're poor. You have a biological need to…
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/22 03:50 PM
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Edit: I had to rethink the post again. I guess the poster is trying to disprove the claim that misogyny is the cause for failure to secure relationship? I can get where he's going with it. It's true in some sense, but it ignores a few things which I've pointed out. The post is exploring not attraction in terms of looks, but the personality of the individual as the determining factor. virginity indirectly indicates inability to get any type of dates This is the conflation. The poster is arguing m…
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/22 03:22 PM
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I know this is not your post. The poster is conflating two ideas. 1) Virginity 2) Secure relationship These two ideas are not associated with each other. Virginity implies no access to sex. While failed relationship implies access to sex, but poor personality. 2nd, the poster is conflating masculinity with misogyny. Anyways, poor argument overall. They need to be more precise in their definition.
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/22 02:19 PM
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So would it be fair to say, that men complaining about women having high standards, are also more likely to be men that can't get a girl? Kind of like, a poor person complaining that they can't afford a Bugatti or a Ferrari?
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/22 01:00 AM
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Fair enough. So if you met a random guy on the street, complaining about women's pickiness, and you had to make a bet. Would you bet that he's having a lot of sex, or very little?
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/22 12:48 AM
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Between the two categories of men, which one is more likely to complain about picky woman and which one is less likely to complain about picky woman?
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/22 09:29 PM
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Just to make it clear, if you're handsome AF, it's not rape. If you're ugly AF, it's rape, even if you got consent. :')
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/22 08:31 PM
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That's fine. I make wrong assumptions too, it's a very human thing to do. If you don't mind me asking you a few questions, Do you think it's a fair statement to say, there are two categories of men? 1) Men who have very little access to sex (0-1 / year) 2) Men who have a lot of access to sex (5+ a year)
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/22 08:16 PM
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That's where you're wrong again. I don't despise woman. I actually love woman. That's why I advocate for woman to not sleep around, get married and have kids as a priority in life.
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/22 06:50 PM
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FYI, I'm a man, who was a virgin until he was 28, met my wife who was also a virgin. And she's the only person I ever had sex with. So no, I never have and I never will contribute to hook up culture.
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/22 06:36 PM
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I don't understand your comment. Are you directing that at me?
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/22 06:11 PM
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Your honesty is too brutal man!
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/22 04:41 PM
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There's two categories of women. 1) Those that hook up casually. This is what the red pill critiques. 2) Those that don't hook up casually. Which is a good place to be and more women should be like you.
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/22 03:28 PM
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You're argument is not true because you ignore that part where women are just as shallow as men, and choose who they hook up with based on physical appearance, "the tingles", dark triad traits, status/clout, wealth and so forth. You're argument does not explain why a women is willing to sleep with a man on the 1st date. How is she able to determine your three points, 1)rape,2)risk of pregancy,3)kidnap/murder, with a 30 minute interaction? How is she "picky" if she ignores all three points you ju…
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/22 03:20 PM
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That's fine. I understand your sentiment. I think the whole purpose of marriage is to have kids. If you're not having kids, don't get married. (That's my take) In that sense, women who are "old" are nearing the end of their fertility window. I think as a general rule for men, we want to have our own biological children. I think its the rare man that seeks to raise another's man child. So the question becomes, what age is too old? The average woman becomes infertile around mid 40s. If we consider…
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/22 01:22 AM
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Well, I dont even know what owlman world is. And no, cause by definition, if someone has ideas that serve to harm them, it's not in the act of love. The ideal has to serve on all levels of interaction, otherwise it's just an evil plot for world domination or a self serving interest. And there's no love in that. Anyways, it was good discussing with you. I think we are stuck and neither side is willing to concede.
/r/AllPillDebate24/08/22 11:15 PM
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We're talking abstractly here. Love is an idea, and I'm trying to give it a concrete definition. I understand we agree on a few things. I'm only responding to the point that you disagree with or have trouble conceptualizing. You claim in not reading what you're saying, and I can claim the same about you. It looks like we both have that problem. It can be whatever you want. Almost. It's, it can be whatever you want in the constrains that it actually benefits you, your family and your community. I…
/r/AllPillDebate24/08/22 11:02 PM
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The analogy serves to only explain the idea. Let's not dismiss the idea itself. I already went through the thought experiment with you about ideal in the 1st comment. I'm on a phone so I can't quote it. But you keep harping on the fact that we can't produce an ideal concretely. We can make a good approximate. Maybe it's not lying. Maybe it's not being so clueless. Maybe it's being more aware. Maybe it's being physically stronger. Maybe it's being smarter. Maybe it's being a good man. Maybe it's …
/r/AllPillDebate24/08/22 10:42 PM
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I never seen it worked any other way. I've seen many people claiming to love themselves and destroy their own lives. By definition, the person doesn't love themself. If your life is on a downward path, by definition, you hate yourself. The ideal exist. Regardless if you know it or not. If you accept the idea of parallel universe, then it's basically that. That there's is a possible version of you that is the best. The question whether you can define it or not is irrelavant to the existence of th…
/r/AllPillDebate24/08/22 10:19 PM
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What's there to be unsure of? The ideal you exist regardless if you believe it or not. And who are we to know what the ideal is? We aren't gods. We're bounded by what we know and what we don't know. We can only make an approximate guess what the ideal is. But that's the beauty of it. As you pursue love, the world will love you back. And it will tell you what you're doing right and what you're doing wrong. If your heart is open, you can see it. Your ideal will no doubt change as you're on your pu…
/r/AllPillDebate24/08/22 09:57 PM
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Thanks. I actually listen to way too much Jordan Peterson.
/r/AllPillDebate24/08/22 07:38 PM
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I do. True love is by definition, the act of bringing out the best in someone or something. Then you might say, what is the best? How do you know what's best? What's best for someone may seem individualistic or subjective, but the best possible outcome to your life does exist, as an abstract possibility. You can call it an ideal. What's the ideal you? How can one determine that? Well, first, you can remove all the things you know to be a detriment. Maybe it's laziness. Maybe it's your anger. May…
/r/AllPillDebate24/08/22 07:21 PM
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Your right. We think along the same line. If a woman in her 18-30's (or any age) asks you for commitment, time, money and effort but has had (or would have) sex with another person(s), in matter of hours or minutes, without asking for anything else besides sex itself... It's pretty hard not to feel humiliated in this situation, don't you think? I'm a man, so I'm playing devils advocate here, a woman who finds herself single and "old" is also humiliated. In the east, we call these woman, left ove…
/r/AllPillDebate24/08/22 06:40 PM
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Look up co-factory analysis of wage gap. I'll give you a quick explanation. The plain figure you just reported is the average, ALL THINGS CONSIDERED. Meaning they don't consider other factors that contribute to the wage gap. You can imagine, the difference in wage between two individual may include the following: 1) their experience 2) hours worked 3) their personality 4) their seniority 5) the field of expertise 6) location 7) gender As you can see, there's actually many co-factors that contrib…
/r/AllPillDebate24/08/22 05:31 PM
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My view on privilege has always been that there are pros and cons for both sexes. I agree. Male privilege exists for all men in that we have much less to fear from random men than women do: no group of guys at a bar ever offered to walk one of their friends home because he turned down a girl who hit on him "in case she tries something on his walk home", yet I've been there to witness a group of female friends express this exact concern. I can agree with that. We also still get paid more for the …
/r/AllPillDebate24/08/22 04:58 PM
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You don't know what love is.
/r/AllPillDebate24/08/22 11:15 AM
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Well said. We are responsible for ourselves and for every other person. There's no difference if you endorse woke culture or you stay silent. You are letting evil take hold. It's our duty to speak against evil.
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/22 11:58 PM
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does this apply to women who complain about not being able to find a date, too? It does apply. These women who blame men choose to avoid any accountability in how their actions resulted in their situation. Here's several questions you can ponder. Did I choose the wrong men? Why didn't I see the red-flags? Am I bad at judging people? Am I easily fooled? Do I push away good men? Is my personality good? Do people like me for my looks or my personality? Did I wait too long to find a committed partne…
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/22 07:33 PM
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We're in for a rocky ride. This is just the tip of the iceberg. The millennials are coming through, followed by gen Z.
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/22 07:17 PM
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The reason it's true is because it's the best strategy when dealing with an unknown problem. You can start off by insisting you're not at fault. And trust me, humans are great at rationalizing any number of reason they aren't held responsible. And once you've done the rationalization, there's no need to take any accountability. This is a losing strategy. What you do when face with a problem, is assume your at fault 1st. And try to figure out why. And if that doesn't work, then you can explain it…
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/22 05:36 PM
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That's a conversation with your soul. Be it your relationship with spouse, with your parents, with your friends, and with yourself. I didn't slip that in there to be facetious. I'm dead serious when I say the relationship with yourself is a battle. You hate yourself. Why? Because you were born in this world with insufficiencies. I understand. So what do you do about it? You can rationalize every possible reason to stay nihilistic. That's fine if that's the sort of game YOU want to play. But we k…
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/22 05:30 PM
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I like you very much Glad-Discount, so it would be my pleasure to explain. Let's say we have couple who are looking for divorce. The wife gives her reasons why she wants a divorce. "He doesn't care enough about me, he never listens to what I have to say, he always comes home late." What do you see? It's not a problem. It's a whole host of problems. Maybe the husband does the same. "She never has sex with me. She's always nagging. I don't feel appreciated in the marriage." Same thing. It's not on…
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/22 03:22 PM
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Not quite. your time will come? That's leaving it up to chance. I made it come with my own hands. Not with time alone. I'm married now, 4 years, 2 kids, a wife who's 9 years younger than me. I'm fully aware of how harsh the dating game is and how evil a woman can be. I actively live life in a way to overcome this. A part of overcoming the dragon is becoming a monster yourself. Most people think that being nice will bring you good fortune. I believe that's a very naïve way of looking at the world…
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/22 01:14 PM
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So what's your claim? All men have an inclination to be pedos if it wasn't for laws enforced by other men? I guess the patriarchy messed up by making laws preventing the patriarchy from exploiting young women. We men should really get together in a dark room and re-write these antiquated laws on consent. /s
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/22 12:46 PM
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Red pill was about 5 years. Black pill had an overlap with the red pill. Black pill was about 3 years.
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/22 12:27 PM
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Whitepill is ill-define because not many people coalesce under the umbrella. You have the general definition which is a good start. Definition: being optimistic, not merely through gut feelings but via having thought about a situation enough to understand how to get through it successfully. Blackpill has an underlying acceptance of defeat. Generally, blackpill in the context of dating, explores the genetic traits that underpin relationships. Because these genetic traits are considered fixed prop…
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/22 12:17 PM
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Thanks for your honesty! That's how men feel when put in that situation. He feels like he's being played for his attention and resources when there's no guarantee that he will have access to sex.
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/22 06:33 PM
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It's a compromise. A woman's value for dating is all packed between the age of 18-30. A successful man can have access even in old age.
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/22 06:28 PM
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The thing is the average men isn't going to have a relationship with the ''most' ' anyway, Sorry, you need to really rethink your argument here. Average man IS most likely to have a relationship with the average woman. There's no disputing this. picking up an alt girl shouldn't be that much of a loss you have to rephrase this without slang. I'm not familiar with the use of the word "alt girl".
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/22 05:24 PM
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That's fine. We already discussed this. 92.5% of couples, the man is taller. We know there are exceptions. I don't know why you're arguing about it.
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/22 05:21 PM
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Why are all your examples of short men, also high status and famous? How can you know for certain, that the reason the woman is dating than man is because of his height or his status? What if his status made his height irrelevant?
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/22 04:53 PM
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idk why are you guys so obsessed with normies anyway Because men are logical and like to deal with reality. Normies are by definition, the most likely thing to happen.
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/22 04:50 PM
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We can also say men who are able to decorate themselves in ancient times did it as a form of vanity and to show their status. You're making the assumption that they did it because women enjoy feminine appearance. I would argue it had more to do as a status/wealth symbol.
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/22 04:39 PM
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a lot of portraits from 1800's had guys with long flowing hair and fancy clothing that would probably be called gay today, I don't know why you're calling out my use of masculine depiction for being ancient when your very own example of feminine men is also ancient. Also 80's had guys with makeup and androgynous clothes The point is, both masculine and feminine male were popularize in different subcultures, BUT I think we can agree that masculine depiction of men are on a decline.
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/22 04:10 PM
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Indeed. Women around the world share biology, so it goes without say, they have a particular set of behaviors that's found across all races. You make an excellent point about the historical lack of access to sex. Andrew tate said historically, 38% of males reproduce. I didn't fact check that but I believe that to be true. We think alike. I got myself a virgin, 18 year old when I proposed the marriage. Got married when she was 19. She's been with me since. 4 year marriage. But, the only reason th…
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/22 03:14 PM
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That's right. I also want to mention, western women are more degenerate. If we think about the effort to improve yourself vs the actual reward (woman), I totally understand why men choose to give up. I'm repulse by hook up culture. I wouldn't wife a hoe. That's my standard. But this doesn't explain the phenomenon you're explaining, which is about men who whine about not getting access to sex. I know that's a separate topic.
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/22 02:50 PM
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Yes sir. I fully believe that too, because I was also depressed and now I'm a winner. I have sympathy for the low tier men. And I will only give allowance for the absolute bottom tier men if their genetics were really shit. Not many men fall in that tier % wise.
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/22 02:39 PM
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Sorry for the double comment. You're not wrong. What you're describing is "what ought". Meaning, how people should live life. What I'm describing is "what is". Meaning, that's just how people are. Analogy would be, you telling a depress person to be active, get a job, and be positive. Which is 100% true. And then you have me, saying, yeah, a lot of people are depress because they are losers. Which is also 100% true. We actually don't disagree. I agree people need to take responsiblity for their …
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/22 02:32 PM
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I agree 100%.
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/22 02:11 PM
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by the way, i wouldn't say ''prettier men' ' were unusual in the past, a lot of portraits from 1800's had guys with long flowing hair and fancy clothing that would probably be called gay today, ancient african tribes wearing makeup to woo women etc. But they again, weren't behaviourally or hormonally abnornal, they just had different cultural norms than today. Just to make a counter argument, in the past there were also more masculine male depiction, the samurai, gladiators, roman depiction of g…
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/22 01:41 PM
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I don't have data world wide, but I think it's a global phenomenon. High obesity is 1 reason. There's also high use of estrogen mimics in diet, soy products being one of them. There's also the use of BPA which is a estrogen mimic too. Then there's the physical behavioral aspect, which consist of sedentary lifestyle and poor posture (slouching back).
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/22 01:24 PM
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You can say I'm more on the fringe in my perception of the media. I do believe that it's intentional. The push for less masculine men over the last few decades is all planned. How we define it may have some differences, but I think overall, they have more in common. Instinctively, if we both were shown a photo and asked if this person is masculine or feminine, our answers would probably overlap 60% of the time. If you're curious, there's a real trend of lower t in the blood over the last several…
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/22 01:14 PM
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This can be a whole other topic to discuss. Masculine in terms of facial structure is well studied. When I say masculine, it's just a broad definition of everything related to high testosterone. So it would encompass strength, risky behaviors, and face structure, but not exclusively just these.
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/22 12:51 PM
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As for your question about weak jaw, rm/kim namjoon, guy from same group as jungkook and he has outright weak jawline I'll take your word for it. You can tell me if the guy with the stronger jawline is more popular than the ones with weak. I'm not into pop culture so I didn't even know who this guy was, had to google his picture. Justin Bieber as homosexual I remember this. To be fair, justin bieber was pre-pubescent on his debut. He hadn't mature yet. It was easy to joke about bieber before he …
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/22 12:43 PM
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Access to sex is just a bench mark for your desirability. Having a lack of sex isn't the problem. It's the rejection that's the problem. There's no doubt, if you're rejected constantly by females, you're probably rejected a lot in life. It's the female rejection that hurts the most, because it's a judgement of the most extreme. A female rejecting you isn't much different than mother nature rejecting your genes. We just don't articulate rejection like that, it's too harsh.
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/22 12:31 PM
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I read your post. I didn't feel like disputing that part. Since you asked, here you go: If you want my opinion about jungkook/beiber, as "feminine" as you may think they are, they actually display a lot of high testosterones features. A sqaure jawline with a diamond cut is very masculine. They may dress up and wear makeup, but they are definitely more masculine than you're typical male. Even if we go back 20 years and they weren't superstars, I have no doubt they would still get a lot of girls c…
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/22 12:24 PM
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'you need to be 7 ft' To be fair, I think that's just a meme or a joke. It shows the absurdity in female preference on dating sites. Also you ignored my second sentence as an argument: even some who have fetish for bisexual men Are you talking about this? I have nothing to say about fetish for bisexual men, though the argument would probably be the same because bisexual men make up less than 1% of the population.
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/22 12:12 PM
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I do know some girls who have a fetish for short men and even some who have fetish for bisexual men, you guys wouldn't believe me because this probably isn't in your social circle nor in mainstream media I'm not going to dispute that there are people out there that like short men. This is where statistic comes in. Their peer-reviewed study, published online in 2013, found that in 92.5 percent of couples, the man was taller than the woman and that the average height difference was 14.1 centimeter…
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/22 12:06 PM
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Bill gates, elon musk and danny devito are also filthy rich There's a book called 1 billion wicked thoughts that explores the top trend in female erotica. I believe the top 5 female erotica archetypes are doctor, billionaire, vampire, werewolf and pirate. What women like, is a man who's daring, mysterious and dangerous. A popstar who lives on the edge, partying and being a rebel is way more appealing than an old fart who's into nerdy stuff. No one gets turned on by a man coding Microsoft OS insi…
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/22 11:58 AM
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All three would be my answer
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/22 01:47 PM
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I agree that the younger generation is more shallow and aloof in their relationship. That's why it's even more important to pick the right person, as well as mold them to the perfect partner. I don't leave anything to chance. Everything in the relationship is negotiated. If you get all the expectations out of the way, you can start actually having a relationship, instead of being passive aggressive when your partner does something you don't like. As bad as the western mentality is, it's not the …
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/22 01:42 PM
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That's your interpretation of my advice because all you focus on is appearance. I don't know your husband specifically, but being so good means being a loving wife to your husband and kids. He may sleep around if he's that high value, but he can't leave you out of guilt because he would destroy the relationship he has with you and your kids. And this isn't about being manipulated. Genuine love. Trust is something that's built over time. If his 20 years of marriage with you is built on 100% trust…
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/22 12:12 PM
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My advice would be, be so good that your husband can't trade you for another person. People have lost the art of relationship.
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/22 02:38 AM
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You're right. I took a different approach with my relationship. Instead of thinking, how best should I protect my assets incase of divorce, I ask, how did other people manage to prevent divorce from happening? I took a lot of time learning from people who have long stable marriage, and implemented the same strategy to my own marriage. People will call that foolish. Like that analogy, "if your parachute had a 50/50 chance of failing, would you jump out of an airplane?". My response would be, how …
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/22 02:22 AM
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I have a theory that pretty much everyone, at the core of them, is solipsistic. You will never truly know or understand another person's experience unless you've actually lived it. Sorry for the double reply! I just have to comment on this point here. I would say, if you as a person, transitioned from blue pill to red pill, you have a better grasp of reality compare to someone who stayed blue pill their whole life. There's typically a breakthrough in the matrix, where you now see two different p…
/r/AllPillDebate20/08/22 04:02 PM
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Combine with the fact that they were suicidal to being with. Thinking that transitioning is their way out of a depressing situation, but only to realize that they just did something irreversible and they're in a worst situation than they were before.
/r/AllPillDebate20/08/22 03:40 PM
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Well said. Since we're having this discussion, I will add to your idea. Women believe they actually did something to deserve that privilege. Like they earned the respect and kindness of strangers. They don't want to admit that a lot of that respect and kindness is predicated on something they didn't earn. It's like that experiment where the same resume with different gender was given out. And the male resume was rejected 99% of the time, while the female resume was accepted 60+% of the time (I f…
/r/AllPillDebate20/08/22 03:37 PM
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A lot of feminist are spinning the narrative trying to blame men for this transperson experience. They are so blinded by their ideology that they can't fathom the idea that they are the privilege sex, and men are the ones who have it hard. Even catniagara flipped the script and read the post as if it was a man who transitioned to a woman. Here's a lesson for people reading this. People perceptions are goal oriented. Humans actually perceive very little information from the world. It's because th…
/r/AllPillDebate20/08/22 01:24 PM
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I'm may be the only idiot here :). I make all the $. My wife is a stay at home mom. We both have our own accounts and a joint account, but it's really pointless since I make all the money. I give her full access to the money, in cash or in chequings. I never refused giving her money. We have similar spending habits, both fairly frugal. Been married for 4 years. If you all are wondering, I'm fully aware of divorce statistics. I'm very confident my wife will not divorce me.
/r/AllPillDebate20/08/22 11:43 AM
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You talk about perception bias without realizing your doing it. The story is about a woman who transition to a man. Not the other way around.
/r/AllPillDebate20/08/22 02:39 AM
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So my stance in life is that individuals should be held responsible as much as possible. You have two reasons listed here in this conversation. social norms (outside forces) Women as gatekeepers (internal) They are seen as gate keepers of sex but I don't think that's true. You may dismiss my reason. That's fine. I actually agree that your reason is valid, but I don't agree we should put the blame on social norms. Here's why. Think deeply about this. If you claim that the reason hookup culture ex…
/r/AllPillDebate19/08/22 03:54 PM
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Women are the gatekeeper to sex. That's why the blame/responsibility is put at the feet of women. Outside of rape, women in general control access to sex.
/r/AllPillDebate19/08/22 10:46 AM
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Yeah, we're not in much disagreement. I'm just expanding your point with another aspect. I actually consider most problems as multivariate. So its just me chiming in, not to disprove you, but to add to your already extensive wealth of knowledge. A friendly discussion between highly intelligent individuals. I learnt some of that chimpanzee behavior from Jordan Peterson. It's a general rule to assume biological continuity than to assume none. There's was a podcast with peterson and a gentleman who…
/r/AllPillDebate18/08/22 08:50 PM
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I think the biology is more of an underlying drive. It's possible to override it with the application of willpower or if there are other imperatives that have a stronger effect. I agree that biology has an underlying drive. Like if someone threatens you, your biological response is to freeze, run-away, or fight. Then to top it off, if you're a male, you predispose to being violent (if you're not a soy boy, lol). To further explain the idea of R / K theory, is that R theory is advantageous in sit…
/r/AllPillDebate18/08/22 07:36 PM
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I believe it is a choice. Even with biology, it can be explained. Generally human reproduction is considered K-strategy. AKA monogamous, long-term, high parental investment. Then you have mammals like rats or bunnies, which is considered R-strategy. AKA as many babies as possible, with the least amount of investment. There's this study that shows, women who come from fatherless homes are more likely to adopt R-strategy. And vice versa, women who is raised with a strong father presence is more li…
/r/AllPillDebate18/08/22 04:44 PM
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I would recommend listening to Andrew Tate on his advice on screening woman for relationship. I'll give you a quick example. You have a GF and she wants to go clubbing with the girls. What you do is say in a calm and respectful voice, "I do not agree with that activity, if you respect me as your BF, you should not go". And then she has two choices. She either disrespects you by going or she respects you by staying. If she does disrespect you, then you end the relationship. You do this very early…
/r/AllPillDebate18/08/22 02:33 PM
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You make all fair points about divorce rape. That's why I suggested at the end you live in a state with at-fault divorce laws. And I also suggest a prenup.
/r/AllPillDebate18/08/22 02:24 PM
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Also having the stamina and strength to fuck her brains out is really helpful.
/r/AllPillDebate18/08/22 02:20 PM
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It's very competitive for men nowadays. Ideally, you want a traditional girl, who's conservative and religious. It's becoming more rare as time goes by. If you want to stay in the USA, you'll have to move to a more conservative area (I don't know where you live, I'm guessing USA because of your user name). Otherwise, you have to fly to a foreign country, maybe Mexico if you're Mexican, Brazil if you're Brazilian, and so forth. Next, you have to have a good screening process. What I did with my w…
/r/AllPillDebate18/08/22 02:00 PM
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We will have to agree to disagree at this point. You have your studies, I have mines. I'm not in the mood to debate this. Men cheating is a different topic. I don't know how this topic entered the conversation.
/r/AllPillDebate18/08/22 12:33 PM
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Watch this excellent tedx video that explains the effect of birth control pill on a woman's brain, sexual libido and sexual preferences. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RdwLAyWHBVs It's not disproven. It's backed by decades of research.
/r/AllPillDebate18/08/22 12:06 PM
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The ovulation thing is real. So is the effect of birth control pills, which puts women in the "non ovulating" stage all the time. I heard a story where a woman on birth control dated a beta for several years. When they finally planned to have a baby, she went off the birth control pill and became unattracted to her beta husband. It also explains women's mood swings, because half the time they like you, then the other half, they don't. Unless you can exert both alpha/beta behaviors to match her t…
/r/AllPillDebate18/08/22 11:22 AM
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I didn't read the whole article but I think I got the gist of it. If a young women ask me what I thought about sleeping around, I would say... "Don't go thinking that you can treat other people as casual sex partners without doing the same to yourself." It's a shame that they don't realize their mistake till years after.
/r/AllPillDebate18/08/22 02:03 AM
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Look, I've made plenty of points that you conveniently ignore for the purposes of your argument. You just skipped over the whole point that autistic men have a mental illness. Are you saying females that hate on men are also autistic? Are we making that comparison here? Otherwise your comparison is disingenuous.
/r/AllPillDebate17/08/22 04:12 PM
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Because they use it to say that females only like chads, instead of accepting they themselves are simply autistic or whatever. I'm going to explain to you why your argument has no empathy. You're saying all these men are autistic. What does that mean? They have some mental issue. Okay. Now you're talking to all these autistic men, who are mentally impaired, that they're arguments aren't logical. Wow. Of course their arguments aren't logical. They're autistic! Anyways, I've made it clear that I u…
/r/AllPillDebate17/08/22 03:16 PM
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I've already explained it prior Tinder is used to serve as an example of female hypergamy. What you have to understand about the black pill perspective, is that they don't represent all men. They represent the bottom tier men. These men are so far down the hierarchy, even their own mothers don't love them. No offence to any incels reading this. So here's the "truth". It doesn't matter if you tell bottom tier men that tinder only represents 10% of the female population. Because for bottom tier me…
/r/AllPillDebate17/08/22 02:38 PM
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That's fine. I think the actual number for true incels is roughly 1% of the population of dating men. Incel forums or people who subscribe to incel ideology is not many if you look at it by population. Maybe 100,000 men? It's the same with radical feminism. Like 5% of women fall into that category. Which doesn't sound like a lot, but population wise, that would mean a good 7 million USA women. And those 7 million tend to be the loudest on twitter complaining about male oppression. And people mak…
/r/AllPillDebate17/08/22 02:20 PM
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15% is rather large. I wasn't expecting that. Well, lets just use 15% as you suggested. The male population in USA alone between the age 15 - 35, is roughly 59,600,000. 15% of that is 8,940,000 men. How many of the roughly 9 million men do you see on incel forums?
/r/AllPillDebate17/08/22 02:04 PM
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You tell me, what percentage of men do you think fall into that category?
/r/AllPillDebate17/08/22 01:55 PM
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You're right about the ratio. Though I wouldn't say it disproves anything. Tinder is used to serve as an example of female hypergamy. There's a common number thrown around, that 80% of women picked the top 20% of men. Tinder is that on steroids. It's 95% of women picking the top 4-5% of men. You're absolutely right that tinder doesn't represent the average women. It's generally agreed that women date across and up. Meaning, women on average have a tendency to date men in their league (which is w…
/r/AllPillDebate17/08/22 01:47 PM
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You got yourself a high value man. Good job.
/r/AllPillDebate17/08/22 01:50 AM
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We really don't know how much deprivation contributes to the motivation a man needs to thrive in life. When you see a immigrant come to the west without a single penny becoming a successful person through hardwork, while a citizen who has every possible privilege and every possible advantage end up living on government handouts, it makes you question, is deprivation really all that bad? I know a lot of young men can be envious of young women because of xyz. But I think that process of struggling…
/r/AllPillDebate16/08/22 06:26 PM
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I think you're trying to make a joke about the mods in PPD. It's going over my head because I've never visited that sub.
/r/AllPillDebate16/08/22 04:10 PM
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The issue is, they don’t need us because they got daddy government to provide for them. From tot standpoint MGTOW is a battle. This is half true. Like what sort of lifestyle would a woman have if she solely relied on the government? She may get enough to eat and have a decent place to live. But she ain't going to have nice outings, a nice car or frivolous other items. Also government doesn't provide male attention. That's all given by beta simps. Beta males and simps are dishonest!! MGTOW is not…
/r/AllPillDebate16/08/22 04:05 PM
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This goes to one of my advice on being alpha. Actions based on truth and love. If you ask yourself why haven't you done it yet, you can make a bunch of reasons. But you know, all of those reasons would be based on fear or no love. If you truly believe that that sort of lifestyle is good and is the truth, you'll pursue it with your actions. If you said to me, yeah, I travel across the globe, I bang chick's, and I do it because it's good. It doesn't matter if we disagree, I would respect you for p…
/r/AllPillDebate16/08/22 02:17 PM
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Ofcourse. But I too was young so I understand where you're coming from. What you say is true. You should go out and learn new things. Don't let me stop you. My main advice is having good quality relationships is what makes life meaningful. You can have a group of 5 bros that you'll take a bullet for and they would for you. That is more meaningful than 1 million followers on a social media platform. I'm not much older than you. I'm 32.
/r/AllPillDebate16/08/22 01:27 PM
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Because as you get older, having loads of sex becomes a meaningless endeavor. At a certain point, you realize nothing is more important than a good wife, good kids and a home. Here's something you know instinctly. Anything worth having is difficult to obtain. Most people can't hold a good relationship because it's hard to be good. And they give up to their vices and bad habits. I get it. Relationships are hard. But that doesn't take away from the fact that at the end of your life, you wouldn't c…
/r/AllPillDebate16/08/22 12:51 PM
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Women across the world find weak men contemptuous. You don't want to be in a scenario where she starts off good, but slowly morphs into a bitter and resentful wife. Personal story, I have a friend who's 50+M. He's a very very nice guy. He dates Phillipines. That's his thing. He had a Phillipino wife for 25 years. Never had a kid with her. He raise 3 of her kids. He bought her 3 properties in the Phillipines, and 1 franchise. That was "their" nest egg when he retires. But even after all he's give…
/r/AllPillDebate16/08/22 12:16 PM
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If you're not a man, or have a semblance of a manly aura, then what's the point? You're go to another country to be rejected. Either, just go for it. You'll learn something along the way. Edit: it's intentionally left vague. As much as I think I know what the truth is, I cannot claim that I know 100%. So I just say truth and leave it to you to figure out.
/r/AllPillDebate16/08/22 05:34 AM
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As cliche as it sounds. Asking that question shows you're not. But as a fellow man, I'll give you some pointers. You're alpha when you're not afraid to walk away from a bad deal. You're alpha when your actions are motivated by truth and love. You're alpha when your goals are beyond yourself. You're alpha when you realize you are responsible for everything that had happened and will happen. And look, you don't have to be the perfect alpha. I wasn't and I still ain't. But keep working at it. When …
/r/AllPillDebate16/08/22 02:58 AM
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I would advise becoming alpha before seeking a women outside the western influence.
/r/AllPillDebate16/08/22 02:21 AM
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Meh. That's typical for that demographic.
/r/AllPillDebate15/08/22 10:54 PM
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Well, how do you propose we deal with a problem that is actively being waged on humanity by the globalist? Edit: if everyone did ignore the propaganda from the globalist, the globalist would have no power.
/r/AllPillDebate15/08/22 10:43 PM
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It's not even something we can end. The gender war is just another tactic for the globalist to divide humanity. The globalist are waging war on humanity. If we want this shit to end, we have to fight the problem at the source. What the solution is? I don't know. Your solution to ignore the problem is a decent solution. But half the country are sheep's and will do as they are told.
/r/AllPillDebate15/08/22 10:31 PM
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That's the problem with your thinking. You lump all men together. Just to clarify, I dont lump all women together. You read my comments, I say stuff like edge to the middle. That implies distribution. I say stuff like wholesome girl to whore. That implies two distinct groups. Let's answer your about e thots. How many subs does Belle have? I don't know. Maybe 100,000,000. There 4 billion men on earth. There's probably 1 billion men that speak English. Maybe 500,000 knows what twitch is. And 20% o…
/r/AllPillDebate15/08/22 07:48 PM
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For every wholesome women who becomes a whore, that's one less wholesome women to choose from. Men don't prefer whores as girlfriends.
/r/AllPillDebate15/08/22 07:22 PM
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There's a lot of reasons that explains the resentful nature. It's a topic on its own, and would he a shame to just make a comment on it. I would say, that resentment of men are fueled by the explosion of social media and globalization of the dating market. I dont want to get too into it, cause we can write a 5 page essay, but just a summary. Women standards have gone up because they get affirmation with the globalization. Women are getting way more attention online by horny simps. Women can also…
/r/AllPillDebate15/08/22 07:07 PM
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Just to tell you why the other commentor is irritated. You're not disproving his argument by saying "look, it happens to women too!". I can agree with you that there's a cohort of women that has no sex, but that doesn't disprove anything about the cohort of men not having sex. If you're a young female and average, most men are down to smash for 1 night. The same cannot be said for the average man. Young women choose to be celibate. Young men don't, hence the idea of incelibate/incels. Old women …
/r/AllPillDebate15/08/22 04:52 PM
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I can totally believe that. Men speak out because they are more sexually frustrated than women. Women for the most part are okay without sex as long as they can get attention.
/r/AllPillDebate15/08/22 04:35 PM
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/u/Liberated_Asexual Well, I for one think it's true that female are having less sex too. The cohort of females that aren't getting sex is rising. These are the typical alpha career women who past her prime. That cohort of females is growing year by year!
/r/AllPillDebate15/08/22 04:20 PM
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Lol. Sorry, I can't have a debate with someone that dull. Ask your SO to explain it to you, cause it's going to take several hours I don't have.
/r/AllPillDebate15/08/22 10:31 AM
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I just want to first say, you're not playing devil's advocate. Second, trying to debunk an idea without fully understanding the concepts is laughable. Top tier men don't give a fuck about bottom tier men. Matter of fact, most women don't give a fuck about bottom tier men. Bottom tier men would love monogamy. Here's an actual solution. Why don't women stop having sex before marriage? That way, Chad won't have access to sex unless he commits to one women.
/r/AllPillDebate15/08/22 01:26 AM
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I'm guessing that's a rhetorical question at the end. I guess 100? The point is, women lose their value 30+. But they still aiming at the top % of men.
/r/AllPillDebate14/08/22 08:50 PM
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It's like the chicken/egg problem. What came first? Male thirst or women hypergamy? Well, the way I see it, they both existed since the dawn of time. What changed was the internet and the globalization of the sexual market. Before a women was limited to her circle of friends. Now girls are getting dms for trips to Dubai. Men are now competing on a global scale. Male attention ain't worth shit, when millions of beta simps are giving it away for free.
/r/AllPillDebate14/08/22 08:19 PM
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if the mods keep this up, I'll leave the sub too.
/r/AllPillDebate14/08/22 12:11 PM
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that's pretty lame. that doesn't even fall under the definition of harassment. someone reported you, most likely lovers691, and I don't know how the ban system works, but it's messed up either way. I support you calling someone a douche!
/r/AllPillDebate14/08/22 12:11 PM
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To answer your question, yes mgtow does solve something. I'm a firm believer that you should punish bad behavior. If women in the west are acting foolish, men need to stop given these women what they want, access to our resource and attention. Beta males/simps are the worst. They collectively incentivize the worst behaviors in women by showering them with money and attention. If you want to shame a group of men, you should shame betas/simps.
/r/AllPillDebate14/08/22 02:28 AM
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u/SaltyGeekyLifter who banned you? calling people names shouldn't be grounds to ban people.
/r/AllPillDebate14/08/22 02:13 AM
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Try living in your parents basement, providing absolutely no value by the age of 40. Then tell me that your parents will still respect you. Let's be real. You won't even respect yourself. Come back down to earth. No one is respected without cause. You're privileged to live in a society where people have enough tolerance to be polite to you for simply existing. Don't push your luck. You better be useful to society sooner or later, because that patience has a limit.
/r/AllPillDebate14/08/22 12:09 AM
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Intrinsic value my dear. Meaning a value given by birth. Women can have value if they earn it. Same like men.
/r/AllPillDebate13/08/22 11:21 PM
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I do know how someone could. It happens all the time. Bad parents. Mothers who murder their own kids. But that's besides the point.
/r/AllPillDebate13/08/22 05:31 PM
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That's what a parent should do with their kids. As much as we disagree on life, I am very happy to see people who care for their kids.
/r/AllPillDebate13/08/22 05:25 PM
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There's your answer. You do hobbies that bring value to your life for your family. If you being in a good mood helps serves a better relationship with your kids, then go for it.
/r/AllPillDebate13/08/22 05:06 PM
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Art (she's crazy) never heard this one b4 Clubbing (slut!) Yeah, I agree Spending time with her girlfriends (sus) Depends on the girls Movies (lazy) never heard this one either. So what is acceptable beyond working out? Hobbies are mostly just distractions from real life. If you're truly dedicated to your family, which should be your number one priority in life, you don't need hobbies. Does that make you unidimensional? No. You can spend time teaching your kids and having them experience differe…
/r/AllPillDebate13/08/22 04:04 PM
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Since you asked, ill give you my thoughts. Women and men have their own sets of problems. I agree that men ain't shit nowadays, men are becoming weaker each generation. You probably hear about men with low testosterone levels? This make men weak betas. Testosterone promotes risk taking. Reasons for low testosterone: bpa in plastic. Estrogen mimics in food, example soy. Boys and Girls are encouraged to avoid conflict. Schools are removing recess time. Kids are only children and have no siblings. …
/r/AllPillDebate13/08/22 11:48 AM
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The study is based on swiping habits. Not actual messaging. (You don't get to the messaging phase if you don't even get swiped on). Your right that warm/cold approach is better than dating apps. I never used dating apps personally. https://www.statista.com/statistics/976223/reasons-why-adults-use-dating-websites-apps-usa-gender/ 59% of women on dating apps are looking for exclusive romantic relationship. Dating apps is becoming the most common way to find a partner. It will soon past the traditi…
/r/AllPillDebate13/08/22 11:23 AM
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I would be delusional about reality. I would be nihilistic. Depressed. Addicted to games. Dead end job. No wife/kids. Red pill+ information saved my life. I donate to those content creators that helped me because 100$ here and there is cheap compare to the help they provided to me.
/r/AllPillDebate13/08/22 10:59 AM
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I'll ask you a counter question. Why do 80% of females on dating apps choose 5% of males? While 50% of males still choose 50% of females? The way you phrase your question as if women haven't raised their standards to ridiculous levels, that even the typical average man, average height, average income, average looks, can't get a date with an average girl. And there's always the opposite side. Women 30+ are having a hard time getting dates. There's plenty of older women sounding like incels, cryin…
/r/AllPillDebate13/08/22 10:51 AM
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Oh, I just thought about it. I think blue pill is optimistic/naive. Red pill is like pessimistic/aware. Then white pill is like optimistic/aware. That was the progression for me atleast.
/r/AllPillDebate12/08/22 08:07 PM
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I dont really know either lol. Like a more optimistic state? There's not much defining white pill. I'm just wearing the hat and hope nobody ask what the hat is. I'm big on family relationships and family building now. That's kinda my focus.
/r/AllPillDebate12/08/22 07:40 PM
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Jordan Peterson took me from red/black pill to white pill. I watched like 90% of his content over a 3 year span. I rewatch them several times. You would think you understand what he was talking about the 1st time listening. But you'll be surprise. After listening a 2nd or 3rd time, something new emerge. His relationship advice is very sound. Relationship as in any relationship, platonic friendship, business or romantic. It would serve you well to take a listen.
/r/AllPillDebate12/08/22 06:44 PM
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I see it sometimes too. But it's typically with a trade off of another status marker. Like wealth. There was this study that showed something like, every 1 inch a man is shorter, he must make 30k more to be consider equivalent. Example: a man thats 6ft tall that makes 30k a year is = a man that's 5"5' tall that makes 250k. I'm sure any many with disfigured face, if he has enough status or wealth, can get most women interested. And also I know there's exceptions. But exceptions don't make the rul…
/r/AllPillDebate12/08/22 11:34 AM
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We dont know why exactly. The theory was fat women represent wealth, or abundance of food. It's not the fat lady so much the wealth that she represents. But in today's culture, food isn't scarce. And wealth and abundance can be displayed in more healthy ways.
/r/AllPillDebate12/08/22 11:27 AM
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Yeah, looks can be broad but theses also have things in common. Symmetry. Height. Good genes, like not balding. (I know some women like bald men, just in general). All the "good" looking men, of all domains, aren't fat, big nose, asymmetric face, short, etc.
/r/AllPillDebate12/08/22 11:19 AM
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I would say, men settled for fat culture. Mostly loser men. I'm not desperate for women, if I was still single, I wouldn't consider a fat women as an option. But you got a lot of desperate men in today's culture that are willing to accept fat women. Fat women don't accept fat men, because they still have desperate loser men (that aren't fat, but probably have something wrong with them) that are willing to bang them. Plus you got this culture hypnosis effect where society is pushing for fat accep…
/r/AllPillDebate12/08/22 11:17 AM
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That doesn't disprove anything. Most fat men don't get dates. Fat women are still accepted.
/r/AllPillDebate12/08/22 10:58 AM
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I would say that's half true. Those subcultures are created, true. Women still pick from the top. All men would have relations with a 10/10 if she was willing. Same thing for women. All women would want the top man of any given domain if he was willing. There's also certain traits that extend across all domains. Traits like wealth, confidence, looks, genetics, status. This is what men mean when they say women want the same thing. This isn't a diss to women. Men would do the same if given the sam…
/r/AllPillDebate12/08/22 10:55 AM
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It does make you brave. I also have enough courage to speak. But I'm talking more about physical confrontation. That is what I lack.
/r/AllPillDebate11/08/22 05:15 PM
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He's brave cause he learned to fight and is willing to bumps fist with a guy on the street who disrespect him. Even I don't have that sort of warrior spirit. I can admire someone who does.
/r/AllPillDebate11/08/22 05:10 PM
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Better level myself up first then take my shot at some younger women. We don't disagree. That's what I said right at the end.
/r/AllPillDebate11/08/22 05:00 PM
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I don't blame you for poking fun at guys that geomaxx. I had a poor representation of them in my mind too when I was younger. If you plan on getting into any relationship (platonic/business/romantic), you have to learn to set boundaries and stick to them. It takes a bit of confrontation and courage, but trust me, this will make your relationship work in the end.
/r/AllPillDebate11/08/22 04:44 PM
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Exactly. The idea proposed here is that: Your competition will sit by idly while you looksmax. If I put in 50% effort, and some next dude puts in 60% effort to pass me, I'm not gonna just roll over and let him take the girl. I'm gonna say, fuck that guy, and put in 61% effort. And then it's just a matter of time before we both put in 100% effort and like you said, it then comes down to our genetics. You have to pair that up with the current "girls" in the west. Are they even worth putting in 50,…
/r/AllPillDebate11/08/22 04:24 PM
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I agree. It's no secret, I said many times, I've travelled half way across the world to find a wife. I wouldn't date the average western female. Cause I wouldn't put up with their shit.
/r/AllPillDebate11/08/22 02:35 PM
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I understand where you're coming from, but I think that's a weak way to view the world. My world view is you deserve everything you get. AKA you're fully responsible for everything that happens to you. I don't allow my wife to set the rules of engagement. I set them. Even with the risk of divorce rape, I told her, if she wants to leave, the door is open. I don't make no qualms about losing her, even when I have 2 kids with her. (I am married for 4 years). But I also preform at my peak to show th…
/r/AllPillDebate11/08/22 01:55 PM
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I agree. It's a competition to be at the top though. There's only 1 spot at the very top of all domains. That spot gets the most resources and attention. Everyone wants the top position, and countless people compete to get there. But you don't give first place, second place and third place the same amount of prizes. Also the west is slowly abandoning monogamy. Many guys that reach the top are taking several women out of the dating pool. There will be the very bottom 5% of men that will never get…
/r/AllPillDebate11/08/22 12:34 PM
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I understand your analogy, but it's not that simple. For everyman that enters the coveted 20%, you're knocking down another man to the bottom 80%. If everyman reach their full potential, there will still be a hierarchy. Women will still pick from the top of the hierarchy. At some point, a man has to decide if the effort to compete is worth it.
/r/AllPillDebate11/08/22 12:02 PM
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I agree with your friend. All the "good" women are taken. All that's left are undesirable women. Better level myself up first then take my shot at some younger women.
/r/AllPillDebate11/08/22 11:12 AM
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His persona is like the distillation of masculinity to its most raw and purest nature. He has wealth, physical strength, and women. He's very disagreeable, which is a typical trait for males, and he takes it up a notch. He speaks his mind freely. I genuinely admire his bravery and courage. I generally agree with his views. I only learnt about him today actually. I binged watch several of his top clips.
/r/AllPillDebate10/08/22 11:51 PM
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You have to define mainstream. Honestly, we're mostly in echo chambers. Less so if you're red pill. Half the country (USA) is blue, half is red. There's news catering to both sides. Black pill content is hidden. White pill is not really a pill.
/r/AllPillDebate10/08/22 11:16 PM
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You're ignoring the premise. People make choices for reasons. Saying their choices are purely circumstances takes away the person agency to choose. Here, I think I know why we don't see eye to eye on this issue. My world view is everyone is responsible for everything that happens to them. I'm guessing your world view is that things happen to people that are sometimes out of their control.
/r/AllPillDebate10/08/22 08:45 PM
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You're very disingenuous. I've talked to actual people, in real life, women who are 30+ with no kids, with husbands/partners, and ask them if they are thinking about having kids. And I do this because I have kids, and I have VERY little people around me with kids, so I would like if other people have kids so I can have little play dates for my kids. And it's always the same type of answers with different people. AND it's not a fringe movement. Kids are expensive. Kids will take away my enjoyment…
/r/AllPillDebate10/08/22 08:18 PM
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If your choice is based on reasons that paints mother and children in a bad light, that's shitting on them. I havent recieved any negativety for being a parent either. But I talk to a lot of people who choose to not have children, and all their reasons are painting the idea of having them in a bad light. I just listed you a few and your still here disagreeing like it's not true. Go open Google and type in "why you shouldn't be a mother." And I know for a fact that you'll get a bunch of articles …
/r/AllPillDebate10/08/22 05:56 PM
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1) Kids are too expensive 2) Humans are a cancer on earth (global warming/environmental ideology) 3) Women who choose to be mothers are a slave to the patriarchy 4) Kids are too much work, go have fun 5) Be a boss babe and focus on making $$$. I don't know how you're missing all of these stuff. It's very evident in western culture. I talk to a lot of people. They can make any number of reasons why women shouldn't have kids.
/r/AllPillDebate10/08/22 05:16 PM
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I would say a cultural shift that encourages motherhood would work wonders.
/r/AllPillDebate10/08/22 03:12 PM
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I agree. The population crisis that's being ignored by so many. I'm in the minority when it comes to government reform. I would like to see the abolishing of the welfare state and low taxes. Government should only serve for infrastructure and defence. Everything else private.
/r/AllPillDebate10/08/22 11:07 AM
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No arguments here. I'm just making a distinction between looks and fertility. They both go hand in hand with aging. Women still capitalize on maintaining their looks, but they dismiss their fertility or not make use of it.
/r/AllPillDebate10/08/22 11:03 AM
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No one said being a good parent will make things easy. The argument is, you become a good parent because it's makes life meaningful, regardless of the price you pay and the suffering you will endure! There are good parents. There are bad parents. It doesn't change the fact that the best strategy for raising kids is being a good parent. And you can imagine, it's not going to be easy. Well, that's usually how things go in life. If anything is worth having, it will be difficult to obtain. If you wa…
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/22 08:52 PM
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After thinking about your post and reading the comments, I think we as a society have inflated the word rights with privileges. I'm guilty of this too. I agree with your premise, but I think the better argument would be to switch the words rights with privileges. Rights would be like, freedom of speech. Privilege would be stuff like abortion. Women like to inflate the word and call abortion a women's right. No. Murdering is not a right. Cause your right to do something should not infringe on the…
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/22 08:01 PM
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Thanks for the information.
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/22 04:53 PM
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I dont have a study to inform my decision on this either. My feeling is around once a week.
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/22 04:47 PM
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Fapping is like a drug. In moderation is okay. But you shouldn't be fapping everyday.
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/22 04:19 PM
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I've seen your other comments. You mention you were infertile? My condolences. I understand where you're coming from. I too would resent the world if I was born infertile. Good wishes for your marriage. Thank you.
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/22 04:15 PM
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Marriage is a difficult thing to manage. If you're not wise enough to work and negotiate with your partner, it's going to end in failure. Regardless of age. If you're not wise, you marry a wise man and let him lead the relationship. I (32M) married my wife (23F) when we were 28/19 respectively. We had 2 kids since. I lead the relationship. I teach my wife all the time about how to maintain a heathy and functional relationship. But that's not everything. I choose my wife because I saw she had qua…
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/22 04:13 PM
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I've read several of your comments. I'm happy that you understand the evils of women, but I hope you don't forsake what is good about women. Women who give birth and raise the next generation with love is a blessing. Women can also transmit culture and tradition as she's more entwined with raising the next generation. That art of womanhood has been eroded in the west. This is what I'm trying to re-create with my wife. I work long hours and very sleep deprived. And so is my wife. And we decided t…
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/22 03:59 PM
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I know I talked to you elsewhere in this post, but I would like to say this. Don't let your parents bad decision be the reason you make your own bad decisions. Having 5 kids and not raising them right isn't a reflection of the kids. It's a reflection of the parents. I too grew up in a 5 children household. What you should do, is learn how to be a better parent than your parents. Not abandon the idea of parenthood completely. Children are full of potential, and it's the closest thing we have to t…
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/22 03:45 PM
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Can you explain the decline in women's happiness over the last 70 years? It seems to contradict your claim that women have the best time now in 2022.
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/22 01:28 PM
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We will ignore the basic respect that every human gets. Like not randomly getting assaulted, or having your property stolen, or the basic social etiquette of greeting. What men did in the past, went above the duty of basic respect. That was the art of chivalry. Sure, some men did it because they wanted to get into the good grace of women. But as a society, it was done because there was something intrinsic about a women biology that we respected. Childbirth is difficult, so we as a society decide…
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/22 01:16 PM
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I'm on topic. You're getting off topic here. Having less rights and being viewed as lesser human beings isn't being respected. Women were respected in the past for their intrinsic value. If you want to start talking about the right to vote, that's off topic.
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/22 12:50 PM
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Men leave their pregnant partners all the time. It is a choice. YOU choosing a shitty human being to sleep with is a choice. You're treating women like their children who can't differentiate a shitty person who would leave them vs a decent person who would stay. And accidents happen sex can be for fun, It's still a choice. How bout using proper protection? You know how many contraception's there are? And even if you decided to not properly use them which causes "accidents", you can still put you…
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/22 12:23 PM
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Single motherhood has the worst outcome for children. Even single fatherhood have better outcome for children when compare to single mothers. Throwing money at single mothers only enables them. Why don't we stop enabling single mothers. Single motherhood is a choice. You choose to sleep with bad boys or you choose to leave your husband. If you cared about the children, don't put them in a bad situation to begin with.
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/22 11:51 AM
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It's not respected anymore for sure. People shit on motherhood and children nowadays.
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/22 11:15 AM
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I can see the hurt in your soul. And you have every right to hate the world for making you suffer. But. And this is a big but... you don't have to continue to live in resentment. You can have a meaningful. You can have people who love you. You can have what you need. You just need to forgive those that hurt you, live in truth, and aim at the good. And I say this with all sincerity. I've also been hurt and suffered. But being nihilistic only brought more suffering. So I made the decision to try a…
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/22 02:23 AM
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It doesn't matter. So can men. The point is it's an average. It's all things considered. Women should have kids. Kids are a great thing. Society has poison the minds of many young women such as yourself to hate the idea of motherhood and children.
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/22 01:17 AM
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I would recommend looking into the phenomenon of invisible women. Women are treated well in society and they take it for granted, saying exactly what you just said. They don't realize how little people will actually care about them when they become like "men". Most men are born invisible from the start and learn to adapt to a world that doesn't care about them. I care because I actually love humanity. This is more like a warning to people to wake up before its too late.
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/22 01:14 AM
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Men pay more into the tax system than they take out. Women pay less into the tax system than they take out. These numbers are not accurate but you can search the actual figure yourself if you're interested. Net average for Men is a positive +800 contribution towards the welfare state. Net average for women is negative -1300 contribution towards the welfare state. It's fine if you didn't know this before. Most people don't. I didn't until several years ago.
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/22 01:06 AM
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You're very naive. Men pay more into the welfare state. Women are a net negative on the welfare state.
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/22 12:28 AM
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That's an extreme case. It can be said having 0 children is also a detriment to the existence of life itself. If we had to choose between the two, having 10 is preferable to 0
/r/AllPillDebate08/08/22 11:18 PM
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I am white pill, so I do understand where you're coming from. Each person has rights and we should respect those rights. Maybe respect wasn't the best word to use. But I didn't want to use the world value twice. "We value women intrinsic value" sounds off.
/r/AllPillDebate08/08/22 11:05 PM
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I dont understand your point. Can you make your argument more clear?
/r/AllPillDebate08/08/22 10:31 PM
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I dont respect people for simply being people. I guess this is where we differ fundamentally.
/r/AllPillDebate08/08/22 10:30 PM
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Women have a higher chance of dying disasters. Right. And if men and women are equal value... why does it matter? Because women are more valuable, that's why it's matters. Atleast more valuable than men.
/r/AllPillDebate08/08/22 10:11 PM
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I dont even know why your asking this question. If you actually read the post, it's says right at the end. Men don't get respect unless they earn it.
/r/AllPillDebate08/08/22 10:04 PM
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All your points are valid. And I agree with every single one. This post topic isn't about the inevitable collapse of western society, though it would make a great topic to discuss.
/r/AllPillDebate08/08/22 08:43 PM
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Indeed. There's this one commenter who said men are viewing women as cattle for breeding. How stupid can you be if that's how you view childbirth? This is how I view childbirth. The virgin Mary holding Jesus. It's a divine and holy act to give birth! And I'll tell you how strongly I believe it to be true, I have 2 children and I want more. Simple as that. I do what I believe. I respect my wife and love her to bits. And I actually respect every other women who decides to give birth to a child und…
/r/AllPillDebate08/08/22 08:23 PM
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That doesn't disprove my point. If anything, it just proved my point. If men and women life were equally as valuable, rescuing would be predicated on getting the most number of people alive. Not trying to make it either an equal representation of suriviors or prioritizing the survival ship of the most vulnerable. There's no doubt in a disaster, if we wanted the most survivor, we would rescue men first as they would have a higher probability of surviving. And yes, you're the one who provoked a co…
/r/AllPillDebate08/08/22 07:54 PM
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You realize how asinine your proposition is? Do you watch a super hero movie and say, "this whole movie is pointless because a human can't fly through the air!" So what if my example is out of historical context? It still helps serve as a metaphorical way to explaining the valuing of women over men. Instead, why don't you write out the reason why I'm wrong, not just for me to see, but for everyone else who is reading this post? Instead of being a smart ass.
/r/AllPillDebate08/08/22 07:29 PM
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I'm not going to bother. Even if the use is out of context, it still valid as an idea. How bouts addressing the idea instead of nitpicking?
/r/AllPillDebate08/08/22 06:48 PM
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You're a perfect example of how our society had shifted in 60 years. You can say your views represent a growing group of people. I'm also in the same category. 60 years ago, the general view was women should be respected for simply being a women. This is when men where chivalrous to women as a general rule. The act of chivalry died, due to many reasons, but one of them is what this post is about. Which is the abadoning of the reproductive duty to society. Before women come at this with pitch for…
/r/AllPillDebate08/08/22 06:40 PM
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I agree. I would add, they want the perks of both manhood and womanhood, without paying the dues of both manhood and womanhood! You see it when people ask women "why should people respect women?" And then you get the hand ringing and over used response "because women give birth to the world!". And then most people miss the fact that... "no, you've abandon giving birth to the next generation."
/r/AllPillDebate08/08/22 06:23 PM
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There is many other factors as you've suggested. I've been following the red pill community for several years now. I thought I'll bring in another aspect that isn't talk much about. Well said, I didn't tie it directly to the idea of self sacrifice, but it's a very good way of putting it.
/r/AllPillDebate08/08/22 06:16 PM
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I agree. People seem to be missing the point. I've used the word intrinsic value for a reason. It's a value we give to women regardless of what they do or who they are. It's a value given to them by birth. Men don't have that same value at birth. Thus we are the disposable gender. We have to earn our value. Sex work, as much as it's skewed towards women, they still have to earn it, and they do pay the price for engaging in it. But having the ability to propagate the next generation is exclusivel…
/r/AllPillDebate08/08/22 06:02 PM
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That's not what's was said in the post. I said intrinsic value. Meaning something you are born or endowed with without earning it. Women can be respect for any number of reasons outside of their ability for child birth. It's said right at the end. Women are now in the same position as men when it comes to earning the right to be respected. And if you don't think having the ability to give birth isn't valuable, then you're deluding yourself. If you have a population of 1000 men and 1000 women, yo…
/r/AllPillDebate08/08/22 05:51 PM
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I agree that women are valued outside their ability to become pregnant. Men value just the act of sex alone. But the point is a general trend towards more and more men starting to not respect women for simply being a women. There are still many men who still fling themselves at women. But.. you can see the phenomen happen with the growth of the red pill movement. Idea like, "respect yourself first" or "don't be a betabucks" are essentially just that. It's an idea that you shouldn't respect women…
/r/AllPillDebate08/08/22 05:03 PM
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I'll explain to you the phenomenon you're seeing. Lower quality men actually don't want "sex". What they want is acceptance. Sex can be bought with cash. But to be given sex voluntarily means you've gain acceptance. I have no doubt, most of these so call incels would be very happy to be in a platonic relationship with a girl too. If you have any empathy for the losers of society, you would understand, they are rejected more frequently by others based on their appearance. This rejection goes beyo…
/r/AllPillDebate08/08/22 11:53 AM
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We really got off topic. I forgot what this post was all about. To get back on topic, subsidizing education has resulted in everyone who may or may not benefit from a secondary education to recieved one. The unintended consequences are as followed: 1) education prices have increase dramatically. 2) education quality has lower because admission to colleges has become less restrictive. They can't have too many people failing as it will disincentivize people from attending, thus lowering their prof…
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/22 01:58 AM
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That's true. I dislike the idea of using college degrees as a marker for education. It's rather outdated. I believe an IQ test and a personality test would result in better candidate for employers.
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/22 01:41 AM
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Colleges have become top heavy. More of the cost of college is dedicated to administrative positions that aren't necessarily important in providing quality education. I agree the necessity of education has gone up. But... I would argue the value of colleges actually gone down. Colleges themselves are shooting themselves in the foot by teaching students non-educational items such as propaganda and political ideologies. I believe we are paying more for lower quality education nowadays. But this is…
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/22 01:16 AM
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Well, since you've brought up student loans, all it's really done was make education more expensive, while making young people servitude to the state with a loan they can't declare bankruptcy on. I can imagine a similar effect, if you have government subsidizing housing, it will just make house prices higher.
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/22 12:51 AM
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I agree this is a phenomenon for dating. But it's actual size effect on housing inflation is only part of the issue. There's also stuff like fiat currency, market manipulation, government regulations, replacing blue collar jobs with artificial intelligence, and supply demand issues. I'm not saying you're wrong. But even if you're propose solution was implemented, it wouldn't be enough to offset the situation. If anything, it may have a negative unintended consequence. Like the introduction of a …
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/22 07:12 PM
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That is a excellent way to put it.
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/22 04:04 PM
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It's similar to the halo effect which is based on physical attributes of beauty. Many of our perceptions about the world is based on the surface level interactions (which is what we see). To interact with an object beyond it's surface level appearance requires energy/time. We have to balance the act of investigation with the actual cost of perceiving it wrong when we interact with people on the daily basis. This is where preferences become more prevalent in todays dating culture. Because with da…
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/22 03:38 PM
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That's true, but it doesn't discount the obvious reason why. It's about the women when she's pregnant/child rearing. If your biological system was to evolve, it would evolve in accordance to what state of being is more important to the survival of the species. A women is most vulnerable when she's is in that mother/child diad, it's more important that a women has an innate desire for a breadwinner than to become the breadwinner. You can imagine, the women who don't have the proclivity to seek a …
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/22 01:38 PM
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I agree with the sentiment that men should do their best to be desirable. I would note, many western women aren't worth dating either. But there's a larger prevailing sentiment that it's the man's job to become desirable and not a woman's. I think I'm a decent quality man, but I haven't found a decent quality women in the west. So I went overseas to find a traditional women to marry. (The very few quality women I've met were already taken.)
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/22 12:11 PM
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Indeed. I would say that notion of the male breadwinner stems from biological rather than any social or economical necessity. It's wired into females to seek providers as they are burden with the responsibility of child rearing. That's another reason why our society(west) is falling apart. We've introduce ideologies that are counter intuitive to the biological nature of man and women.
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/22 11:41 AM
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This is true. There's also the idea of women holding their husband in contempt when they start to out earn them financially. There's also the idea of college educated people looking down on non-college educated people as a status symbol. I think the current women:male ratio in college is 3:2. When women use wealth and status as markers to find a quality mate, but find that they are the ones out earning men, women start to have a dreaded feeling of settling for a man who is beneath her. You can i…
/r/AllPillDebate05/08/22 10:43 PM
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I've seen this sort of data before in the black-pill community. As an Asian male living in the west, it was disheartening to see, but also I knew it to be true deep down. Asian men are the least desirable to date. Black women are the least desirable to date. White men are the most desirable to date. White women are the most desirable to date. Follow by a close 2nd for Latinos. This is also one of the reasons I found my wife by flying to Asia. (out of many)
/r/AllPillDebate05/08/22 04:57 PM
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I can't believe this interviewer is fixated on how much money is in his wallet. I agree it's seems superficial when compared to other things that could be asked. And I'm sure even the interviewer isn't conscious of why she asking it. I see it as an unconscious investigation about the sort of lifestyle choices someone of that wealth chooses to live by. We are curious because we are creatures who learn by imitation. Why would someone who's that wealthy still carry cash? And why that much? And why …
/r/AllPillDebate05/08/22 04:41 PM
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I'll give you my interpretation why cohabitation before marriage is more prominent in the west. Distrust. Women and men are more distrusting of one another. Women are taught that men are a part of a patriarchy who's main purpose in life is to subjugate and exploit women. Men are taught that marriage is a risky proposition and getting married is akin to gambling your life away. This breeds a situation where trusting someone at face value is frown upon, and many people opt to "test" the relationsh…
/r/AllPillDebate05/08/22 04:31 PM
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I agree with the idea overall. It's the same idea with the pair bonding studies. They compliment each other. I also think we can accept it as face value, because actions are derived from ideology. Someone who tends to sleep around is probably into the whole sexual liberation movement, which has a whole host of other ideologies that are tied to it (like mention before, the lack of respect for the institute of marriage). I'm pretty sure if they ever come out with a study of political alliance vs d…
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/22 08:11 PM
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I like these studies. Though I wish they would do a factor analysis. The subject age is very broad, 15-44. We can imagine that women who cohabited first with husband or none at all are probably women that choose to get married at younger age. Then that would beg the question, if it was a choice to get married at a young age, what other co-factors would be associated with that demographic? Perhaps they are more religious and conservative. Maybe women who cohabited more are also women who tend to …
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/22 07:54 PM
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I would say when a man let's a women lead the relationship. A real man always leads.
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/22 11:29 AM
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Thanks for the compliment. Talking favorably about religion is pretty controversial in the west as well.
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/22 01:05 AM
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Forgive me as I've only been thinking of these ideas for the past year or so. It's not well fleshed out. I'll give you my best attempt. God isn't a physical being. God is a meta-physical/abstract idea. I believe the way "God" is described in the bible, is a psychological description of reality itself. How is "God" described in the bible? Well, here's a few. He's all seeing, all knowing, and everywhere. He's always judging. He's cruel. He's benevolent. He's always right. He's an ideal. He's all p…
/r/AllPillDebate03/08/22 09:25 PM
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Curious: Most people who are beliefless like me are complete degenerates I guess I may have read this wrong. Are you suggesting that YOU are 1) Beliefless and 2) a degenerate? I had to re-read that twice. I read it first as YOU referring to yourself as both beliefless and a degenerate. But after reading it a 2nd time, I think you were trying to say, you are beliefless, and SOMEOTHER PEOPLE like that are degenerates. Also, my interpretation of GOD is an interesting one. I can expand on it if you'…
/r/AllPillDebate03/08/22 06:31 PM
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We think much alike. My father figure was absent because he worked 2-3 jobs during my childhood. My mother beat me with a stick. I didn't go through a physical "trial by fire" to become the man I am today. I was fortunate enough to have the internet and stumble upon very good content from red-pill, black-pill and white-pill ideologies. I did go though a psychological "trial by fire". I admit, I broke down crying when I had to dismantle EVERY belief structure I once had. Which is insane. But my t…
/r/AllPillDebate03/08/22 06:27 PM
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I agree. Condolence for the divorce. I hope you didn't get rake by the courts. I'm actually a very agreeable and soft man. Raised like that. But I know the only way my relationship will work with my wife is if I'm more dominant and take the leadership role. So I did just that. It's not comfortable, but I've learn to do it over time.
/r/AllPillDebate03/08/22 05:44 PM
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Most people who are beliefless like me are complete degenerates I'm not sure if you're implying that's what I'm saying or if that's what you're saying. I don't believe that at all. Everyone has a belief system. Not having the right belief system doesn't automatically make you a degenerate. Not having the right belief system will make your life meaningless. Telling the truth and taking responsibility is not specific to any one set of ideas. It can be incorporated into other belief structures.
/r/AllPillDebate03/08/22 05:34 PM
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It can be a mix of both reasons. Not to make a cop-out argument. Personally, I like smaller women, because I can dominate them sexually. Also I like small cute things, even as a man. A smaller women has that child like quality (without sounding pedo lol). I like to be a protector too. Gives me a good feeling. Feminist have a point. But it's also only half true. I don't like feminist, so that's coming from a person who dispise feminism overall. I think men do want to dominate a relationship. Aka …
/r/AllPillDebate03/08/22 04:58 PM
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Interesting. My wife is from east Asia. I'm from the west. I guess you can say, not taking responsibility is a more western phenomenon. Many of our youth don't get married until their 30s, and then choose to have kids in the mid 30s. In my wife hometown, women still got married around the age of 18 to 20. And they have 2 to 3 kids right away. Most young people in the west have the idea "what can you give me" instead of "what can I do for you". To tell young people in the west to take responsibil…
/r/AllPillDebate03/08/22 02:10 PM
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That's fine. I didn't give you want you expected. I think the most controversial thing in the west is to tell the truth. Which is a very broad idea because it encompass a lot of different ideas. Responsibility is a way of living, which can be said to not be an idea. But I see it was an idea as well.
/r/AllPillDebate03/08/22 02:00 PM
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Well, the way I see it, believing in taking responsibility and telling the truth is pretty radical in the west. Lol
/r/AllPillDebate03/08/22 01:52 PM
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I came to the belief that the religious text hold an undeniable truth at the core of it's stories. I was once an atheist in my youth. The reason was because I saw the evil in people who claim to be religious. In my naïve and uninform self, I decided that religion was fake because the people who preach said religions are hypocrites. The atheist community only affirm my beliefs as they continue to hack at the religious stories using modern day thinking. As I grew older, I was suffering dreadfully.…
/r/AllPillDebate03/08/22 01:45 PM
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That's why I said it's yes and no. It's half true. Men like shorter Women. Women like taller men. Your theory puts all the power of choice on Women. Which is half true. Men choose too.
/r/AllPillDebate03/08/22 10:40 AM
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Agree. This is why cold approach has more success than dating apps. The sample size is women who use filter + who use dating apps. Not every women uses dating apps. My guess would be 1/4 of females use dating apps. You have another 3/4 of females which probably fall into more realistic territory. If you're wondering how I got that guess, I hear there's a 1:2 ratio, female:male on the dating apps. Then I'm guessing 50% of the male population probably uses dating apps. (I never touch a dating app …
/r/AllPillDebate02/08/22 06:14 PM
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So I'll make two points based on our limited interaction. 1) your personality is aggressive. 2) your very entitled. Instead of asking how to get a quality man, you ask where is my quality man? You don't get to have a quality man with that sort of personality. Try being feminine to the man you desire. You can be aggressive at work or on the comment section if you want, but it's not gonna fly if that's how you treat your potential mate. It's well known that women date up and men date down. And tha…
/r/AllPillDebate02/08/22 04:04 PM
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I dont see how your example disputes the statical data. Its your brain that is poisoned by mis info. I believe the average age gap between western men and women is 2 years (men older). Globally, its much wider. Also average earnings, women marry men who earn 1.5x their income. Also men on average are taller. Great that your mom is able to bag a quality man. I don't discount women are stay fit and attractive can still manage to get a good mate. But to say that your mom disproves statistic is the …
/r/AllPillDebate02/08/22 03:45 PM
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Lol. Well, that's interesting. Your point of view flies in the face of hypergamy. Young women typically have more value, so my only guess would be the ugly men they are dating are sugar daddies.
/r/AllPillDebate02/08/22 03:30 PM
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U/masonsub4 I dont want to get in a debate with both of you, but I think you guys are both right. U/sexiterrorist is probably over 30 U/masonsub4 is probably under 20 Over 30, women who are still physically attractive, can't get a Chad, so they have to settle for less. Under 20, women that are ugly can still bang Chad. You both see the world differently because you both are of different age.
/r/AllPillDebate02/08/22 03:24 PM
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Women are the "choosers" - men compete to get chosen. I would rephrase this. It's the people with options that are the choosers. We all know this to be true. Even outside of the dating market. It may seem like women have a lot of options when compare to men, but there are a few things we all know to be true. Young women have options. Old women don't. High quality men have options. Low quality men don't. You're theory ignores a lot. Height is only 1 of the dozens of genetic markers that people lo…
/r/AllPillDebate02/08/22 12:49 PM
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I went from blue to red to black to "white". I don't know what pill my thoughts fall under, but it's essentially one of courage, faith and truth. I'm married for 4 years with 2 kids. I went from not understanding humans, to understanding women evil nature, to understanding human evil nature, to understanding human good nature. I went from not believing in a higher being to believing in a higher being. My standard for people is more about character, but I still judge people 1st by appearance.
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/22 03:48 PM
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1) effort into physical attraction. Dieting, exercise and hygiene. 2) effort in intimacy. 3) knows how to negotiate and think rationally. 4) loyalty. 5) trust. Goals: Be a faithful and loving wife. Be a loving mother. Pre-game: Choose a proper husband that can also do all of the above. This requires you to be able to assess potential suitors. It's not enough for him to be faithful to you. You have to be faithful to him, and you want to make it easier for yourself to feel satisfied in the relatio…
/r/BlackPillScience18/05/22 12:29 PM
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There could be any number of reasons we can theorize. 1) women who had prior relationships = more older before they get married. 1a) Thus they have a more establish career and are not as dependent on their husband for income. 1b) or they took a few feminist courses and believe marriage to be an oppressive tool. 1c) or the husband has less tolerance for their older wife and are more likely to cheat or divorce for a younger wife that's more physically attractive. 1d) women self worth are overinfla…
/r/BlackPillScience30/03/22 03:51 PM
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I'm not going to beat around the bush. Any death of an ego is painful. You will be sacrificing the skills you mastered, the education, the money and the identity. It's not an easy thing to sacrifice. The question is, is the sacrifice worth it. We all make sacrifices regardless what we do. If you choose to stay in your career, what you sacrifice is your child's bond and well-being. This is a fundamental question about what you are willing to sacrifice and is it worth it. It's not an easy question…
/r/RedPillWomen02/03/22 05:51 PM
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I will say you have a rare and unique opportunity. I think the idea of transitioning is only difficult if the goals are comparable. Meaning the destination of either a SAHM or an independent career women means you will be sacrificing something you hold dear. Here are my thoughts. I believe kids are god's gift to mankind in the most fundamental and non-religious way possible. I'm an atheist or maybe agnostic. But when I think about the idea of breathing life into this world, and understanding the…
/r/RedPillWomen02/03/22 02:47 PM
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That's amazing. I believe the child reflects the parents. That shows what a kind, loving and intelligent person you are (and dad). I don't have much else to say. My last advice is to not let your past bad decisions haunt your future. Talk to your husband, honesty is important. People change. People mature. It's normal to change your mind. Let him know you would rather save the money to invest in a home or your family. And you rather spend more quality time with him and the kids, and that money c…
/r/RedPillWomen01/03/22 10:11 PM
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The sacrifice is real. I understand you have a contract with the wedding venue. I don't know what the cost for cancelation, but it may be something that you ought to do. I'm not saying don't have a wedding. But hypothetically, if you planned for a 100k wedding, and you put a 20k deposit, maybe you lose the 20k deposit for canceling. And that sacrifice will save you the 80k that maybe you need more urgently than the whole wedding. As for caring for children, it's really a full time job if you put…
/r/RedPillWomen01/03/22 08:43 PM
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How to deal with "the wall" mentally...? I've read the comments below, so here are my thoughts. I agree, once you're married and committed, looks don't matter as much. Or to say, the person who loves you will accept your decline in looks. You still try your best regardless. So considering that, your "job" is to find a man that will commit to you. And commitment doesn't mean "just" marriage. It's a life long journey to keep both you and your spouse committed to each other. This will involve learn…
/r/RedPillWomen01/03/22 04:07 PM
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Here is a quick overview of my current relationship. 1) Married for 4 years 2) 2 yearold + mother's pregnant 5-6 months. 3) I'm the sole breadwinner. I'm currently making 50k a year. She's a SAHM. 4) I'm 31. My wife and I have this conversation regularly. We talk about our plans for the future all the time. We rent a 2 bedroom flat, 1,500/month. We don't live in luxury but we have enough. Only reason I bring this all up, is to put in perspective about what you want in life. What do you value in …
/r/RedPillWomen01/03/22 03:44 PM
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I'm not saying people can't have both in 1 partner. I'll clarify, "some" people, and an increasingly more % of people, year by year, are dissatisfied with their current partner, and are seeking more partners to fill their wants/needs. There's a push in mainstream media for more polygamous relationships. Be it fringe, but it's an increasingly more accepted form of relationship as time goes forward. And I agree, you want a relationship where you can be BOTH attracted physically and emotionally. Th…
/r/RedPillWomen25/02/22 07:53 PM
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I'd rather watch poor/mediocre performance than violence during the same performance. This is why female sports don't attract as much attention as male sports. People pay big money to see the pinnacle of human performance. Be it music, art or even sports. It's about seeing what humans are capable of and being inspired by the greatness that we can achieve. I think that the female football players should stop whining about the scarce audience on their matches I agree. The reason is stated above. T…
/r/RedPillWomen25/02/22 06:50 PM
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A lot of people believe most humans aren’t capable of monogamy. I would say, a lot of people lack morality. And morality has been on a constant decline. It's like saying humans aren't capable of limiting their diet from cake and cookies. It's a choice. You can eat the cookie or you can eat a salad. The same with monogamy. Would any of you feel comfortable being in an open relationship Hard no. especially if he finds other women more attractive than you? This is what I dislike about today's cultu…
/r/RedPillWomen25/02/22 06:30 PM
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This is a perspective of a man, 31. (Edit: I'll just add in, I'm an average man. I understand what a HVM is and how that can affect their perspective.) My perspective may be unique, I don't represent all men. I don't care if he wants to justify cheating with things like, men are biologically wired to spread their seeds, or it doesn't affect their attachment. Cheating is wrong. Period. That's where you should draw the line. Now to give you some counter arguments and my thoughts overall. 1`st, hav…
/r/RedPillWomen25/02/22 06:15 PM
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The way you worded the question is interesting. I will answer you in two ways. 1) what if you love kids but infertile? - I dont represent all men. There are red pill men out there that don't want kids or are infertile too. Adoption is always something you can consider. For me, infertile is a deal breaker. 2) what if you love kids but don't want kids? - this is a contradiction. Seems like your definition of love is not my definition of love. Here's something to think about. If you believe kids ar…
/r/RedPillWomen15/02/22 05:18 PM
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I'm married for 4 years now with 1 baby and another one on the way. My ideal women will be different from others. 1) conservative values 2) libertarian values (free speech) 3) loves kids 4) knows how to raise kids 5) not selfish 6) honest 7) not ideological. Needs to think for herself and come to the beliefs of conservatism and libertarian by logical thinking and rationality. 8) dutiful Bonus 9) knows how to cook well 10) enjoys sex Your smv is based on your looks and fertility. Your value as a …
/r/RedPillWomen15/02/22 01:38 PM
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I think your subconscious is telling you, what you're doing currently is not right. This sentence is meant to be vague because what you're doing and what your subconscious is telling you can be any number of things. If you want insight to what your mind is telling you, you first have to build a moral framework around which to live your life upon. I'll give you my thoughts based on your post. Of course, take it with a grain of salt. I will be speculating a few things and could obviously be entire…
/r/MGTOW230/11/19 04:17 PM
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I think your viewpoint is may be too optimistic or my viewpoint is too pessimistic. I do agree that you can judge someone based on their actions and their relationships with others, but I don't think simply owning a pet and taking care of it has only positive attributes. The positive attributes you mentioned were 1) responsibility 2) loyalty. Here's something that I see, and may be something you might consider when seeing people who own pets but don't have functional relationships to other human…
/r/MGTOW230/11/19 03:24 PM
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Your anger is born from resentment to those that bullied you as a child. This includes your own parents, other adults and other children. You can have a lot of resentment to your parents for not raising you correctly. You can have resentment to the adults in your life that failed to love you. And even to other children that picked on your scabs that were left from a poor upbringing. My advice is to be honest about what you resent in life. Then to formulate a plan to defend yourself against that …
/r/MGTOW227/11/19 01:59 PM
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Nothing about college should be fun. But when people say that, what they really mean is 1) I'm free from my parents supervision for the next 4+ years. 2) I'm still financially dependent on my parents and government. 3) I have no responsibility to act in a faithful manner to my donors to use their money as intended. 4) I'm given the prestige and status of a college student. It's basically an overgrown child that no longer has to worry about mommy or daddy giving them time out. It's disgusting and…
/r/MGTOW227/11/19 01:50 PM
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I think the general wisdom is 80% is diet and 20% is gym. So you will get the most bang for you buck by focusing on a better diet. I personally reduce my sugar intake by nearly 99% of what it used to be from high school. No more soda, no juice, no sweets, decreased carbs like bread rice pasta etc. I also quit drinking coffee and bubble tea. Used to drink that stuff daily but now if I ever drink it, it will be like once a year kind of drink. I also work out for 15 to 30 minutes every other day. N…
/r/MGTOW227/11/19 12:39 PM
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I looked at your other post and I want to let you know to not give up on life. Here's something I really took to heart from Jordan Peterson. Is life meaningful? What is the meaning to life if we eventually die? If all we do is to struggle to live? Maybe it's better to not care. Because when I don't care, I validate that life is meaningless. And when I don't care, the outcome doesn't matter. It can be good, it can be bad, either way I don't care. So it doesn't bother me one bit.... Well, the thin…
/r/MGTOW226/11/19 05:59 PM
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Mgtow meaning is different between each men, but for me, it was indeed a coping mechanism. But not because I had low smv. My smv is actually slightly higher than avg, and has only increased since I've awaken. My issue wasn't so much women issues, but an issue with self. My parents were overly protective and at the same time tyrannical, so they beat the confidence out of me at a young age. I had to overcome that myself as I grew older and mgtow was part of that believe it or not. I'm happily marr…
/r/MGTOW226/11/19 12:51 AM
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Your mindset stems from you being at the bottom of the dominance hierarchy. You are overly self concious about your surrounding because you are in a state of constant threat. Like a prey animal is always alert to predators, you are constantly predicting potential threats to your well being. You're always on edge. If you want some advice, you have rise up the hierarchy so that you feel less threaten by those around you. Typically, people would say, if you make alot of fu money, then your set. It'…
/r/MGTOW219/11/19 12:50 AM
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Congratulations. Not many people are conscientious like you. My farther wasn't as much of a tyrant as yours. But my issues from childhood stem from neglect and overprotection through tyranny. I was also a coward. And my ego was shatter to non existence. I had no wants, no needs, no drive for life. I was nihilistic and semi suicidal. I had to make the conscious decision to be brave and to overcome my fears. It's hard but I've managed so far and continue until I can become more enlighten to myself…
/r/MGTOW218/11/19 04:52 PM
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You feel naked because you feel vulnerable. How to stop feeling vulnerable? Become stronger by confronting your fears. You start small and work your way up to your biggest fears. You'll be surprised, you're stronger than your fears, and you'll come out of this knowing your more capable than you first imagine.
/r/MGTOW218/11/19 04:44 PM
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You are stronger than you think. You just haven't overcome your parents. Alot of your problems stems from both over protection and tyrannical parenting. And trust me when I say this, you can't change your parents. All you can do is conquer the monsters your parents created within you and become strong enough to be independent. Once you have a good foundation, you may want to confront your parents in an intelligent way. But like I said before, you shouldn't expect to change them. But it is still …
/r/MGTOW218/11/19 04:37 PM
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When you're not allowed to get angry, you become resentful.
/r/MGTOW218/11/19 04:22 PM
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Have the physical metal is better than paper. I hear that the same paper is sold to several buyers. Though I'm not savvy enough to know if GLD or SLV has that issue, but I would rather have the physical than having it on paper.
/r/MGTOW210/11/19 03:36 PM
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I'm an ex mgtow, now with a stay at home wife and expecting a child in 2 months. There's nothing wrong with working with your partner to live a good life together. What I find interesting is that you're asking if there's a "problem" with your current set up. I think the problem you have is you and your husband are broken inside. You, suicidal. And your husband, abused by his ex and mother. Look, I have nothing against stay at home wife. My wife is exactly that. But the difference between you and…
/r/MGTOW209/11/19 07:42 PM
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It's not ok. Don't be delusional. You're not everything you could be and you know it. Don't settle for being a loser. You can be a winner and that has nothing to do with attracting women. BE A WINNER. BE SOMEONE YOU CAN LOVE. You can do it because you are human. You have the power to change your destiny. Do it not for revenge. Do it because it's the right thing to do.
/r/MGTOW209/11/19 05:22 PM
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If your afraid of a downturn in the market, invest into precious metal, ie gold/silver. Buy the physical bar from a reputable source. When the market goes down, precious metal will go up, you then transition your pro-folio from metal to stocks. And just to let you know as an aside, I'm not an investor, nor do I have experience. I'm only 29 and I put 20K into silver which I keep at my house. I want to learn investing too. I'm not too concern about lost in precious metal. Because what you lose is …
/r/MGTOW209/11/19 05:17 PM
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If you want to build confidence, you have to push yourself to the limit to understand yourself. Confidence is based on knowledge. The more you know, the more confident you are. If you need confidence in yourself, understand yourself. To do so, you have to see how much suffering you can tolerate, and how much physical exertion you can handle. If you want to be unshakable in your morals or principles, then you have to understand them to the fullest. Don't just stop at "telling truth is good, telli…
/r/MGTOW220/09/19 12:20 PM
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Everyone here is reading your post differently than me. What I see is a young man that was stifled as a child by his parents. You have many inadequacies as a person and are using excuses to justify your inadequacies. I'll tell you this as someone who had many inadequacies and been trying to fix them... Look into parenting and the side effects of bad parenting on behavior. Then try to understand yourself and where you fall short because of bad parenting. Learn to overcome them and become a strong…
/r/MGTOW218/09/19 11:15 AM
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You're right. We can't save them all. But I'll be damn if I didn't save those that I bloody could.
/r/MGTOW231/08/19 11:16 PM
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Then you haven't improved yourself enough. If you can't say no to your parents, it simply shows you're still a child. I'm not telling you to "man up" or "grow some balls". I'm telling you to take charge of your destiny and forge your own god damn path. Decide what's best for you and make it a reality! I see many of your post online and they all have a common thread. You aren't sure about what to do, what to think, and who you are. Sit down, actually think about it and decide. WHO AM I? WHAT DO I…
/r/MGTOW231/08/19 06:30 PM
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I personally like small government and free market principles. I'm somewhere between fiscally conservative and libertarian regulation
/r/MGTOW230/08/19 02:58 PM
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I don't think many here believe this stuff based on faith alone. There are many studies, logical theories and discussion on these topics that are proof enough they exist. The wall exist because humans evolved to mate and die before they hit 30. You can look through thousands of before and after wall images to understand that the human body stops looking fertile after a certain age. Awalt can be either taken literally or the correct way to understand it is the possibility of negative female behav…
/r/MGTOW230/08/19 02:38 PM
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You're on the path to enlightenment. I learnt alot through Jordan Peterson work. I know he called mgtow weasels and then apologize. But I don't let that stop me from learning from his wisdom. I wish you the best on learning about yourself.
/r/MGTOW230/08/19 02:23 PM
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What you're doing is going to be a huge impact on their life. A child given food by everyone will not appreciate the food given. A starving child that's given food will instinctly appreciate and remember who gave it to them. You're feeding their souls and they will look back and be thankful to the only person in their life that gave one fuck about their existence.
/r/MGTOW230/08/19 02:16 PM
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If you want to be respected by your parents. Become someone who embodies the essence of respect. The fact that your parents are making demands from you is because you have no self confidence. You have no plans. You're confused and lost. Become the adult. Make a goal and make a plan. Make your own decisions in life. Lead yourself, don't be led by others. Your parents can see you can't lead yourself. So they will continue to lead you. They are doing you a disservice by being your manager. They hav…
/r/MGTOW230/08/19 02:12 PM
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Yeah. Alot of men are seeking guidance. I try to help when I can but I'm very busy with my own life. This sub has become more of a help group than it's original purpose.
/r/MGTOW226/08/19 11:35 AM
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Wow, that sucks. Maybe do it when you're 55+ in age
/r/MGTOW222/08/19 04:17 PM
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You can donate your sperm and sign a contract to not be disclosed :). There's that story in UK where a man has child 1000+ children through sperm donation.
/r/MGTOW221/08/19 04:28 PM
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Your father is a weak man. Keep him away from you. Don't mingle your's affairs with his. Weak men cannot be good. They can only be tools.
/r/MGTOW216/08/19 05:45 PM
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I'm guessing you were treated poorly most of your teenage and adult life and you've internalized the inferiority to some degree. Also, you've learnt the best copping strategy to being talked down to is to have your emotion grow proportionally bigger to your physical size. This frankly doesn't solve anything, and will put a wedge between you and other people. If you're looking to be treated as an adult and not a child, then you ought to act more like an adult. Because throwing tantrums and yellin…
/r/MGTOW215/08/19 03:35 PM
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Everything was sensible during their Era. Back then people had shorter lifespan. More people ran at home businesses or farms. Child Labour was a big part of life.
/r/MGTOW215/08/19 02:04 PM
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Hm. So it's not too severe but I would say as someone else mention in this thread, you have to understand that a healthy and functional person can be self motivated and can function without the approval of someone else. My suggestion is to think about the idea of self validation and self love and try to impliment the ideas in your life. I think improving in these areas will help with reducing your feeling of missing your ex.
/r/MGTOW207/08/19 03:27 PM
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I think your problem is a yearning for approval in your life. Without approval, you're unmotivated to work. You feel like you fall short of expectations no matter how hard you try, so you've given up trying. Life feels futile. What you miss most is being appreciated for your effort. It's something you most likely lacked in your childhood, and could be worst if you had a high achieving sibling that your parents compared you to. Now you work a manual labor job. It feels like a dead end job, with n…
/r/MGTOW206/08/19 01:29 AM
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I see. Do you think missing her has anything to do with gaining approval? Even though she was a cunt, did she reward you for helping her out with promoting her music?
/r/MGTOW205/08/19 09:04 PM
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I'm going out on a limb here, but I would like to know if your parents neglected you by working too much. I would also like to know if you ever felt you didn't meet your parents expectations of you as a child. When I say neglect, I mean by spending time with you, not money.
/r/MGTOW205/08/19 08:57 PM
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I think what you miss the most is not her but having purpose in your life. I think the time you spent with her gave you a feeling of direction and success. She gave you a purpose through her own career and you latched on. Can I ask what sort of childhood you had? Did you're parents prevented you from exploring and finding new experience? Did your parents neglected you in some manner? Perhaps they are workaholics and spent more time working than spending time with you?
/r/MGTOW205/08/19 08:12 PM
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I think we are onto something. How is your currently life? Do you have a meaningful career? Are you happy with your current situation?
/r/MGTOW205/08/19 07:47 PM
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Besides the talent, what about her did you love? Did the other girls display similar traits?
/r/MGTOW205/08/19 07:26 PM
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Was she the "best" you ever had? Compare her to your other girlfriends. If you can rank them, is she leading the pack?
/r/MGTOW205/08/19 07:01 PM
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I hear marriage counseling is rig, the counselor are gynocentric and will steer a women towards divorce.
/r/MGTOW205/08/19 06:54 PM
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You should spend sometime soul searching and discovering yourself. You need to learn to love yourself. Took me over 5 years to stop hating myself to being okay with myself. Over the next few years, I'm trying to love myself. Think about it this way. You get a job, work out and be nice because you want girls to love you. How bout doing all of the above to love yourself? Would you expect anyone to love the current you? Do you love yourself right now? Hold yourself up to higher standards because yo…
/r/MGTOW205/08/19 06:45 PM
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I've watched lmsface about a year ago. I like his theory of physical attraction. I don't follow any other incel content, just lms because he's pretty consistent and logical. Frankly, it's also proven that looks can carry you quite far in life. Beautiful and taller people get paid higher than average, after accounting for other variables. Beautiful people are also treated better in most circumstances. Now we all know beauty is just one part of life equation to success, how much weight it has... I…
/r/MGTOW205/08/19 06:36 PM
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Was she the first girl you've loved? How did the break up happen?
/r/MGTOW205/08/19 06:20 PM
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Have you figured out what about her that you missed? Was it her looks? Her personality (besides being super cunty)? The time you spent together? Did she resemble someone you knew? I think you ought to figure out what exactly you miss about her to figure out why. Then maybe through understanding why, you can figure yourself out too.
/r/MGTOW205/08/19 06:18 PM
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The nice thing about mgtow2 is people here are more level headed. We can all agree to disagree on many things and still keep it civilized. I don't think you can find many online community with such composure as this one. (not that I looked far and wide, just my intuition).
/r/MGTOW205/08/19 06:14 PM
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Nothing is more difficult than walking the path of truth. You will be attacked from all sides, but you have to keep researching and keep learning so that you trust the truth and feel comfortable living it.
/r/MGTOW203/08/19 09:09 PM
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This is my hypothesis... Asian countries are mostly underdeveloped/developing countries. Undeveloped countries that aren't abundant in resources, rely more heavily on a patriarchy. Develop countries are abundant in resources. They are less reliant on a patriarchy.
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 12:52 PM
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Thanks for your kind words. I hope you the best as well.
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 12:36 PM
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I think the best you will get is a group of loosely attached individuals who may sympathize with your plight. Allies invoke not only the same goals, but also aiding each other in a mutually beneficial relationship. No true mgtow will aid you in a physical sense. They may give advice or wisdom on becoming a better person but nothing further. As for the goals of mgtow, it's to be free. Which may or may not coincide with your goals, and I suspect it doesn't. Side note, I'm not mgtow anymore. I'm an…
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 02:06 AM
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Yeah. That's my gripe with incel. If your ugly, accept it and get plastic surgery done. Its common knowledge that men are shallow, so ugly women get plastic surgery done to look beautiful. It's very popular in Asia. Most incel are blue pilled and under the impression that looks don't matter to girls. But girls are just as shallow, if not more shallow than men. So if they can accept reality for what it is and accept they got an ugly face, go and get plastic surgery done and look like a model, pro…
/r/MGTOW229/07/19 11:28 PM
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Agreed. I watched lmsface on utube as he discussed this. He's an incel and I like his work. He talks about smv in depth.
/r/MGTOW229/07/19 11:23 PM
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I say it was part luck and part understanding relationship better. I studied why people's relationship failed and what makes a good relationship. I met a young girl that came from a loving family. And she hasn't been indoctrinated by feminism yet. I decided to give it a try, and I understood I had to be the person to prevent her from indoctrination as well as teaching her good morals. I also had to do my best to be a better person morally and have the moral courage to lead the relationship. I le…
/r/MGTOW229/07/19 11:05 AM
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I used to be like you. First 28 years of my life, I was single and a virgin. Never had a relationship once. I got into mgtow around age 24. So for fours years, I had the feeling of doubt and personal identity issue. Mgtow filled that void for personal identity as well as indignation for socialtal ills against young men. I had a weak, to almost non existing father figure, I didn't know what it meant to be a man, much less a human. I hated myself when I was young. And I could never muster the cour…
/r/MGTOW229/07/19 12:48 AM
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I like your comment the best. I would suggest alpha traits are associated with high levels of testosterone, while beta traits are associated with low testosterone. High testosterone means, handle stressful situation well, more muscle and bone density, more body hair, more aggressive, more risk taking, higher libido. Low testosterone means, depression, low sex drive, more fat, less body hair. Ofcourse, spectrum, or I like to say, bell curve. Alpha/beta traits can also be learnt.
/r/MGTOW229/07/19 12:24 AM
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Why do people think incels have a bad personality? Personally, I don't like incels because of the lack of personal responsibility. They blame women for their lack of reproductive success. But that's only part of the picture. They, as a person, aren't attractive to women, most of it could be genetics, some can be personality. But if they truly understand why they aren't attracting women, then they have to make the effort to change themselves or accept the situation they are in. And yes, the solut…
/r/MGTOW228/07/19 11:44 PM
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Definitely explained why guys shouldn't do it. But yeah, I felt it was like giving a solution to a non-existant problem. I can imagine it can happen. But it really is some next level gymnastics for the frontal cortex. I can't imagine it's more than 0.0001% of mgtow men.
/r/MGTOW228/07/19 11:27 PM
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I watched the whole video hoping to see some proof that you caught someone being a hypocrite. But I was disappointed.
/r/MGTOW228/07/19 02:32 PM
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It was long. Repetitive. Half way through I started to skim. Not worth the read, you could have wrote all of this in 1/3 the text. You're upset that life's not fair, that people are fake, that the world is more hedonistic... yes it is. And it's gonna get worst, but at least you know it and can avoid getting swept in by the current. And that's why you're mgtow. You need to stop feeling resentful to this hypocritical world we live in, because part of going your own way means not letting outside fo…
/r/MGTOW227/07/19 08:50 PM
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Life isn't worth living unless you find something worth dying for. Be kind to yourself. Forgive yourself. Love yourself. We all make mistakes. It's how you grow from them is what counts.
/r/MGTOW225/07/19 03:59 PM
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Im on the same wavelength as you when it comes to men are objectively better on average. Men average iq is higher Men are stronger on average There is a lot of overlap because life exist on a bell curve. But if we take the extreme ends of the bell curve, we can see the difference more clearly. When it comes down to why people believe in feminism, I like to believe that these people have low quality genes. When it comes to competing in the free market, their low quality genes prevents them from r…
/r/MGTOW225/07/19 03:38 PM
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You need to discover yourself. Imagine this. Let's say you own a pet dog. And you decided to be the best dog owner in the world. So what do you do? You first take care of its physical needs. You feed it. Bath it. Keep it healthy. 2nd, you know your dog's quirks. How it behaves. What it likes. What it hates. 3rd, you treat the dog with respect. You never yell at it. You can always forgive your dog. And you love spending time with it. You teach your dog many things and many skills, and you let you…
/r/MGTOW221/07/19 11:42 PM
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I love your last sentence. Very beautiful.
/r/MGTOW221/07/19 11:19 PM
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We may not be related by blood, but we are all brothers here. My heart goes out to you and I sincerely wish you the best.
/r/MGTOW221/07/19 12:40 PM
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Kids are the real victim in our society. Innocent and defenseless. People vote to enslave our future generation so that they can enjoy government handouts. Then they indoctrinated the kids to hate themselves. They saddle them with college debt and a useless degree, then tell them to work the rest of their lives to pay taxes for the benefit of their elders. Then when all hope looks lost, the government turns to them with a devil's promise. Ask them if they are willing to sell the souls of the unb…
/r/MGTOW221/07/19 12:32 PM
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No need to avoid the pain. I know you're looking for relief, but you must mourn your lost. Mourn the same way if someone close to you past away. What died is the bond between you and your lover. That bond deserves a proper funeral. The thing I understand about separation, is if your not happy about it, it means you loved her. It's not fair that she does not love you back. But you shouldn't cling onto something that doesn't exist no more. Its hard to be without company. But to make it easier, you…
/r/MGTOW220/07/19 10:46 AM
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Just like what @13Heathens said, everyone involved is probably bad. When I see a situation like this, I imagine the person's past life and how it led up to the present. The sugarbaby probably had a neglectful childhood. Her dad was probably absent in her life, either emotionally and/or physically. She probably is 8/10 on the look scale, she probably receive a lot of male attention in her youth. Her personality is probably narcissistic and manipulative OR low self-esteem and manipulative. The hus…
/r/MGTOW218/07/19 08:57 PM
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His advice is not complete, or it's bad. He recommends not dwelling on the negative and doing things that make you feel good to dispel the negative energy. Substance abuse and addiction would fall into that category. He should be more clear with his advice. Even if we assume he meant doing things like exercise as a distraction from the negative energy, it does not solve the root cause of the depression. If your relationship with your spouse is negative, ignoring your spouse to do "positive thing…
/r/MGTOW218/07/19 08:25 PM
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Ask yourself, do I love myself? Seriously think about it. Humans that don't love themselves: Short change themselves when it comes to personal gain. Ie, putting others before yourself. Not honest with themselves Procrastinate and waste their time Have a need for external validation Do you love the way you look? Do you love the way you talk? Do you love the direction your life is going? If you don't love yourself, then ask the next question: Do I hate myself? Humans that hate themselves: Will hur…
/r/MGTOW213/07/19 07:37 PM
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He has to take the red pill orally by himself or a women will help him with a red pill suppository. All kidding aside, unless he's looking for help, any advice you may give will be ignored. You have to set yourself up as a role model, so that he'll start asking you for life advice. If he see's that you're successful, and have a very fulfilling and happy life, he'll take your advice more seriously.
/r/MGTOW213/07/19 07:22 PM
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I do believe you that some physicians do dabble into the political sphere and about gender relations. I think the issue stems from the indoctrination of physicians as they go through school.
/r/MGTOW213/07/19 02:40 PM
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I'm still working on my criteria but basically: Honest/truthful (not the stupid, it's my truth because of feels. I mean factually true) Does not steal (can also mean stealing someone's time/labour) Does not murder Does not resort to violence Ignoring toxic people is good and I do that too. I personally don't hate much, but if someone is evil (like someone who constantly lies for personal gain or to simply bully), I hate them and choose to ignore them. The hate will go away with time as I ignore …
/r/MGTOW213/07/19 02:37 PM
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Glad you're getting over your issues and becoming a better person! Good story.
/r/MGTOW206/07/19 06:58 PM
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I don't think it's physicians that's the problem. It's mainstream media and big tech social media platform that are censoring and diverting the truth. Anyone can find the truth if they look for it. But if you're the type to just mouth breath all your news from the front page of facebook, you're gonna get fake news. The problem goes way back though. Communism has successfully indoctrinated generations of people into believing things like non-gender theories and the destruction of the family. Thes…
/r/MGTOW206/07/19 06:46 PM
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It all comes down to IQ imo. Low IQ = Low income = High fertility. Low IQ people get offended because they think your question is about them (which in some cases, yes it is). Low IQ people can't form arguments and will verbally assault you. Low IQ people will replace high IQ people eventually. It's only a matter of time folks.
/r/MGTOW206/07/19 06:26 PM
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4 - Never hate other human beings This rule is not healthy. It's okay to hate bad people. Hate gets a bad rep in our society; we're taught to love and sing kumbaya with everyone. Hate is a good sign that you have morals and you won't let people with bad moral off the hook. Just be reasonable with your level of response to any situation you find yourself in. ​ Everything else is good imo. Cheers.
/r/MGTOW206/07/19 06:13 PM
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My thoughts are... you have to get a good girl before she becomes indoctrinated. Then you have to work at keeping her good against society for the next 30 years? Maybe even more but I'm guessing by the time they are 50, their personality and principals are pretty much set.
/r/MGTOW204/07/19 04:45 PM
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Nofap is pretty impressive already. You can always buy a sex doll. You can think of it as a hobby of sorts.
/r/MGTOW204/07/19 04:09 PM
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Being smart goes hand in hand with seeing future consequences. I just want to prefix this with being smart does not = being moral. Anyways, smart people will tend to family plan more and think about future expenses, etc. Asking why poor people are having too much kids is like asking why a child wants to eat sugar. A child doesn't have the cognitive capacity to understand the cost of eating too much sugar. I would like to see more smart people have kids tbh. Because intelligence is part DNA. You …
/r/MGTOW204/07/19 03:14 PM
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I had a lot of similar issues like you. I hope you can pull through the trauma from your childhood and grow to be a strong person.
/r/MGTOW203/07/19 01:55 PM
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Reading the comments here and I would agree that media portrays the extreme ends of reality. If the average relationship is unhappy, then the extremes would be very good (like a couple married for 50 years and love each other) or very very bad (like murder or domestic violence). The stuff in between aren't as interesting to everyday people and thus won't generate views (sales/ad dollars). ​ If you're talking about real life friends/family, it then depends. Since you choose who you associate with…
/r/MGTOW203/07/19 01:50 PM
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I think Mgtows are rather centrist or classical libertarians. Ie smaller government. The currently political left is very far left, while the current political right is closer to the center. So it's understandable why most Mgtow should lean "right". Of course when the future changes and the right goes too far right and the left becomes more center, there will probably be a swing back towards the left. Basically whatever governing body can give less national debt, less taxes, less social welfare,…
/r/MGTOW229/06/19 01:20 PM
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I'm currently 29. Not much older than you but I've come to understand more about life after working on my own for 6 years and looking up many videos about life. ​ When I was 24, I just started working on my own. I was an angry person. I was kind, but avoidant. I was a bitter person without understanding why I was bitter. I didn't like my parents much at the time. I spent most of my free time playing games online. I had no goals. I also hated myself. ​ What I've learned about myself over the past…
/r/MGTOW228/06/19 03:39 PM
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I'm curious how old these women are. If they already talking about family in this western culture, I'm guessing their past 30's and getting baby rabies.
/r/MGTOW228/06/19 02:13 PM
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I would say freedom. Of course freedom should be proportional to responsibility. The more freedom one takes, the more responsible they are for that freedom. ​ The more free you are, the more Mgtow you are imo.
/r/MGTOW228/06/19 02:03 PM
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It's been more than a year since I chatted here. A lot has happen in my life, but I wont be sharing that here and now. ​ My understanding about this base instinct is a combination of their primal biology and their childhood. I've gotten into the research and theories about how adverse childhood can affect an adult. (Started with Stefan Molyneux and went on from there). I was fascinated with this idea because I for one has an adverse childhood, because my parents themselves had an even worst adve…
/r/MGTOW228/06/19 01:37 PM
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It's a good question. A movement implies a gathering or collection of people. There is a lot of similarities in that regard, as many who seek out mgtow ideologies gather on online forums. Some might make friends and meet in real life, like the MGTOW summit that happened like 1-2 years ago(?). Not only that, mgtow ideology is spreading, even though people will not wear the label mgtow. We have people who dedicate their time teaching others about mgtow. Not so much as a leader, but because of thei…
/r/MGTOW231/01/19 07:11 PM
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I know you're not looking for advice but I'm going to just say it. What were you thinking having sex on the 2nd date? In the event that you do have sex, you need to secure yourself so that when you have sex with a women, you know for sure that you did not impregnate her. If she calls you up and says "you might be the father...", your response should be "hell no bitch, don't be lying." You need to think long and hard about what you could have possible done. You could have brought a child into thi…
/r/MGTOW201/09/18 02:27 PM
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I see it as the inevitable result of any "movement" that grows too large. When "N" increase, there is a shift to the mean. Being red-pill is not normal in today's society. As more and more people join the MGTOW community, the understanding, intelligent and acceptable norms will all shift to the mean of the population. This is something I notice with all platforms. 9gag used to be funny 15(?) years ago (when it first came out). It was a small group of people with fairly high intelligence that cou…
/r/MGTOW205/07/18 12:43 PM
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I believe it's 90% of 1st time marriages end up in divorce within 10 years. Divorce statistics take the total number of divorces and the total number of marriages to get around that 50% mark. Think about it, you marry>divorce>re-marry. The number of marriages is 2. Even though you're the same person. The number of divorce is 1. So 1/2 = 50%. But that wouldn't be correct. Because we know the same person got divorce, it's actually 100% chance of divorce rape. If the stats were to exclude people wh…
/r/MGTOW226/06/18 05:51 PM
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You have a point. In Mgtow, we focus too much on female nature, we forget to examine male nature. Men are the ones to seek out sex because of our sexual drive. Mainly the result of testosterone. Women are generally the ones being pursued. Women set the price for sexual access, while men set the price for commitment. Men also inherently white knight for females, because regardless of political spectrum, all men deep down know what women are weaker than men. You either can admit the truth or be in…
/r/MGTOW223/06/18 04:59 PM
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Love is cooperation. Love is symbiosis. Love is reciprocal. Love is harmony. Whole societies can "love" each other when the society is of the same cloth. You notice when society diversity, society will form enclaves of groups base on race. This mosaic of enclaves does not bred love, that's why our society in the west is so fragmented today. It's human nature to have kin-preference. And with kin-preference, people work for the advancement of their own kin. When this plays out in mosaic nations, y…
/r/MGTOW220/06/18 01:42 PM
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I truly heart breaking story man. I wish you one day find peace with the passing of your father.
/r/MGTOW201/06/18 12:32 PM
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That was great to read. I hope I can discuss other various topics with you in the future (though I am fairly busy running a small business, I don't have too much time to do research nowadays). I believe much of our emotions, from sadness, anger, even joy, stems from our inability to rationally understand the situation to it's fullest extent. So we allow our primitive response to take over, such as our emotional response to /r/MGTOW. I hope you have a great day friend. Cheers.
/r/MGTOW231/05/18 05:06 PM
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I was pondering about this last year. I think religion is a by-product of human nature. Humans have evolved to form groups, those that form groups had a higher chance of survival vs those that were individualistic. All groups have a hierarchy. Those that found themselves at the bottom 80% of the hierarchical pyramid we're essentially the "followers". I think in all groups, big or small, there will be "followers". People that can't lead and need to be led by others. Religion is just a manifestati…
/r/MGTOW230/05/18 08:06 PM
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I listen to videos while I working. I must admit, I may have missed a few details as I only listened to this video once. And high IQ doesn't mean impervious to mistake. As we all know no one is perfect, even the smartest people in life. Spending my small break times during work to check at a reddit forum isn't that surprising. I usually sit down to do a few paperwork items on my computer like work orders or invoices and turn on videos in the background. I'm my own boss so I can arrange my work a…
/r/MGTOW226/05/18 03:18 PM
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That's very interesting. Sorry I thought you knew these women on a more personal level because you knew they worked another jobs after their shift at burger king. So you are not a co-worker(which was my assumption), you just buy food at burger king and chat up these women to learn their personal lifestyle? That's a very hard to believe, I truly doubt these women working at burger king would chat you up and tell you they're working two jobs to support their nest. Unless you were interested in hoo…
/r/MGTOW226/05/18 02:17 PM
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It wasn't meant as an attack. If it was not true, you would not be so defensive. It's because there's truth in there that you are so hurt. You may not know it now, but I can see you are lacking a strong father figure in your life. You may not want to admit it, but it's apparent in your video. Tell me if I was wrong, was your father there for you as a child? Was your father loving to you and your mother? You claim to have many goals and many reasons to live, then why are you working 8 hour shift …
/r/MGTOW226/05/18 12:28 PM
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This video is heartbreaking. A young man who's lost. I can see his past through this video. Probably grew up with an estrange and abusive father. He has a sense of helplessness to his words. His soul is partly defeated, he's only living because he's afraid of death. The laughter at the end was a defense mechanism to hide his sadness. Young man, the answer is not to aspire to the strength of women. It's to find the strength within yourself. You need a reason to live, and you need a goal to look f…
/r/MGTOW225/05/18 06:58 PM
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We feel our feet getting stuck in the quagmire of death. So we seek knowledge to free us from our despair, but to our dismay, we only learn we were already neck-deep and barely surviving. I've been on an introspection journey for over 5 years now. I still haven't found salvation, but I'm still looking. It's hard at times and I continue to fall into depression. But knowing where you are in life is the first step to figuring out which direction to go next. That's how I see it at least.
/r/MGTOW204/05/18 02:32 PM
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Success is accomplishing your own goals with your own hands. The best goals are the ones that you've never done before and require some sort of personal growth to achieve. Something just outside your grasp yet something within your realm of possibility.
/r/MGTOW204/05/18 12:30 PM
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Shows like these are an interesting case study about life. There's always an enabler. Destructive behavior is brought on by adverse childhood. Propaganda for fat acceptance.
/r/MGTOW204/05/18 12:22 PM
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I see. Did you discuss with a lawyer before signing any documents? 7 weeks for 7 years of service sounds like the minimum severance here in America. (You should fight for your maximum severance.)
/r/MGTOW211/04/18 03:41 PM
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Hm, I'm just gonna advise you quickly on getting "fired". I don't know where you're from, but in most cases of being fired, you should get a severance package. This could be over 6 months worth of pay so it's worth pursing.
/r/MGTOW210/04/18 01:21 PM
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It's bittersweet. Like finishing a RPG game as a kid. You spend over a year enjoying a great game, but at the end, there's nothing left to enjoy when you defeat the final boss. MGTOW is much the same. It started out great as you learn much about female nature. But after becoming truly MGTOW, it's bittersweet. You no longer need MGTOW. You stop listening to MGTOW videos daily. You stop reading and posting. And then you say farewell to the community. I'm at the point in life now where I'm ready to…
/r/MGTOW206/04/18 07:18 PM
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Mgtow is what the constituents (the people) make it. Like all things that was cool and trendy, once the mass of people adopt it, it becomes dumb down. Why? Because the people that represents it are dumb. Not to sound harsh, but it's the truth. The average of any group of people will shift towards the mean when "n" is large enough. When MGTOW started small, only a hand full of smart guys kept it real. Now it's been adopted by thousands, and the shift IQ is going towards the mean of the population…
/r/MGTOW206/04/18 06:04 PM
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Right, I see what you're saying now. I was a little harsh on r/MGTOW too in retrospect. r/MGTOW2 not 100% free speech as you say. To add, I would say what goes hand in hand with free speech is freedom of association. I shouldn't be 'upset' for getting my voting suspended (in r/MGTOW). If they deemed my comments as violating their sub reddit, then I have the freedom to unsub and move on my merry way.
/r/MGTOW202/04/18 02:46 PM
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U got it right the first time. Dunno why you would be copy pasting the sidebar of r/MGTOW2 when I was pointing out r/MGTOW was the one banning people. It would have been more appropriate to copy paste r/MGTOW sidebar. If you read up on a few people post about them being banned from r/MGTOW, their critques were very mild in nature.
/r/MGTOW202/04/18 12:01 PM
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I was talking about r/MGTOW, not r/MGTOW2.
/r/MGTOW231/03/18 03:25 PM
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You explain one side of the equation but ignore the other. It's net tax. So income tax which you explain. Then there's government programs that are drawn on, such as welfare, subsidized health care and education (which can be tracked with your social insurance number). So women on average pay less into tax, as you explained. But also take more in services from the government, which you ignored. The overall net equation is that women on average are a net negative on a system that's already bankru…
/r/MGTOW231/03/18 03:21 PM
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We can go on a long discussion about this but it generally boils down to this: Are you for freedom or are you not? Anyone that is against freedom is my enemy. Even recently the r/MGTOW was banning people from their sub reddit for very mild critiques. I see folks that do that shit aren't true MGTOWs(in my eyes). They are impostors. The same way "liberals" have become anti-free speech. They are only liberal by name, not by spirit. The liberal movement has been hijacked by true fascist and communis…
/r/MGTOW228/03/18 12:38 PM
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Indeed. I think any sort of happiness we obtain from others is superficial at best. It's great you are striving to become financially independent. I believe a part of your mother control comes from her financially supporting you. That's why I was "guessing" you had some sort of financial arrangement with her that put you under her care. Once you become independence, she may have a different outlook on her relationship with you (ie. someone of her equal instead of someone that belongs to her). Sh…
/r/MGTOW226/03/18 06:48 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, it sounds like you still live with your parents? There's nothing inherently wrong with that but it just means you have some obligation towards them. I would suggest making it a "goal" to move out and find your own place, rent or otherwise. Reason I'm suggesting this is because it sounds like you feel "indebt" towards your parents. I think that's where the "pressure" is coming from. You have a good heart, because you could easily just lie to both your parents and potentia…
/r/MGTOW226/03/18 01:37 PM
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I've had a 'similar' experience to what you describe, last month. Not exactly the same but what you just said help me think more about it. My experience was watching a close friend of mine get angry at something very insignificant. Needless to say, I started to ponder why they were so angry. And it kinda just hit me. The anger was a manifestation of their anger towards themselves. I had to think about it for 3 days. I think expressions of extreme emotions may be in part about our insecurities. A…
/r/MGTOW224/03/18 12:30 PM
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The person who's been posting is constantly making new accounts. It's one individual who's trolling us. Also if you read the rules from r/relationship, it's against their rules to repost other people post into other sub. We can block them, but they will make new accounts. If the mods can block any repost from r/relationship, then that would be a permanent solution.
/r/MGTOW224/03/18 12:20 PM
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I unsubbed from the r/MGTOW because they block my freedom to downvote stuff. I also see many folks getting banned from r/MGTOW for their free speech for very mild critiques. To me, it seems they are anti-free speech and MGTOW is about freedom is it not?
/r/MGTOW223/03/18 02:15 PM
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Our good friend DuckIsPurple is having a mental breakdown. I think he's looking to provoke the bear, but is angry he's not getting mauled in retaliation. The bear looks at him and goes back to sleep. He's a fly buzzing around the ear of the bear. The "worst" thing you can do to an attention seeking troll is to ignore them. Cause the act of ignoring show's how small and insignificant he really is. And he can't handle it! He's completely hysterical and is running around in circles trying to pick a…
/r/MGTOW219/03/18 07:26 PM
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It's okay mate. He's a walking contradiction. He wants freedom of speech for himself, then gets angry when other people use their freedom of speech against him. He talks a big game about using logic and reasoning, but dumbs down his stance by throwing out verbal insults like a child. He says American are stupid, and that reddit is stupid, yet he continues to post on reddit and engage Americans. Talk about putting your hand on the stove. He's easily triggered. Easily offended. And he wants to pai…
/r/MGTOW219/03/18 03:17 PM
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Lol. This guy deleted his post. What a coward!
/r/MGTOW219/03/18 01:53 PM
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Agree, lets talk about your post. From what I can tell, you are: 1) Low in openness 2) Low in conscientiousness 3) Average in extraversion 4) Low in agreeableness 5) High in neuroticism You are seeking approval about your position about women. It's fair to say most MGTOWs will sympathize or agree with you on some of your points. But your attitude and conclusions about the situation centers around your narcissistic wants. You're letting hate and anger control you. Your comments to your prior post…
/r/MGTOW217/03/18 03:07 PM
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He's getting taxes HST (harmonizing sales tax) on the excess of energy he's selling back to the province. HST is 13% of his revenue. So he's still in the positive at least when it comes to gross profit and taxes. I also find this sort of thing to be silly.
/r/MGTOW212/03/18 08:47 PM
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It illegal in some state, not in others. California just passed a law that de-criminalized transmitting STDs knowingly i think in 2017. Herpes is one of the "benign" STDs, not as life threatening as HIV, though with today's medical technology, people with HIV can live full productive lives.
/r/MGTOW12/03/18 08:19 PM
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Guess he can spread the herpes around to bad women... a sort of revenge? Well.. the likely-hood that they already have herpes is high too...
/r/MGTOW12/03/18 01:17 PM
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Good call on not letting her "borrow" your snowblower. She'll end up breaking it and saying the machine was just old and not her fault.
/r/MGTOW09/03/18 03:54 PM
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Your observations are correct. I would agree that there is a shift in the "demographics" of mgtow and the content has also shifted along with the demographic. More or less, I see it more as a shift from a small group of men on the higher side of the IQ distribution towards the "average" of the male population when the numbers increase.
/r/MGTOW209/03/18 02:29 PM
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Go your own way and make your own guild brother! And tell ever man with half a brain to join you.
/r/MGTOW08/03/18 06:29 PM
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As much as I agree with your sentiments, I don't particularly agree with shaming them. As much as they are angry at women, you have at least enough anger towards them that you would shame them with your r/incels comment. I'm a strong believer of freedom of speech and also freedom of association. You have the freedom to leave (as you have) r/MGTOW. There's no need to gripe about raging men about their personal stage in life and shaming them. I dislike the fact that people do get banned on r/MGTOW…
/r/MGTOW208/03/18 03:15 PM
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I think our struggles in life are signs on how we can improve on a mental and spiritual level. These trials can be small, but some are big enough to break apart your reality about life. What's ahead of you now is an awakening in your soul. The bigger the obstacle you overcome, the stronger you will be after.
/r/MGTOW08/03/18 09:55 AM
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Check you local laws on renting. Its easier to remove someone from the premise if you live there too, but you still have to go through some sort of formality to have them expunged. Its hard to remove someone if you don't live there. I'm in Ontario Canada and I've kicked out 3 different tenants before and trying to kick out a 4th one. The process is over 5 months so far and I still can't kick out the 4th one. Why go through the hassle of protecting yourself legally by signing a rental agreement? …
/r/MGTOW08/03/18 09:38 AM
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This is a quick google search link to article. This raw date, which probably focuses on government services that can be easily tracked through social insurance number. Like welfare payments, health care subsidies, higher education and etc. There is a greater implication here once you wrap you head around that. You will have to contend with the idea that our national debt is driven by the women instinct for security (among other things, but I will just end it at security for the purpose of this e…
/r/MGTOW206/03/18 07:11 PM
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50,000 subs at 12:03 pm EST, March 6th, 2018. salute
/r/MGTOW06/03/18 05:03 PM
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I have a better understanding of your argument. Thank you for taking your time to defend yourself. There might be a bit of a language barrier here that prevents me from using more appropriate words, I'm doing the best I can to convey my ideas. I understand that there is plausible deniability with the fact that you claim that English is not your first language. I will have to take your word at face value, though we don't know each other. You're English seems very proficient to me, I find it hard …
/r/MGTOW206/03/18 04:18 PM
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You're proficiency in English is quite outstanding in your reply to my comment. You've clarified your argument and your attitude from what I can tell is calm and collected. Just to clarify how I came to my conclusion I honestly think the perpetrators and those who make excuses for them should get their urethra thoroughly sounded with rusty barbwire, for starters. You put these two acts together. Those that perpetrate. And those that excuse. As you are well aware of, the #metoo movement has been …
/r/MGTOW206/03/18 03:50 PM
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I'm continuing my comments with this reply: This should go without saying, but I don't condone rape and actual sexual abuse, and I honestly think the perpetrators and those who make excuses for them should get their urethra thoroughly sounded with rusty barbwire, for starters. Honestly. What the fuck are you advocating here? We both agree that advocating for rape is bad. But there's a fine line when we talk about those that excuse rape. And with the ever changing criteria of the definition of ra…
/r/MGTOW206/03/18 02:15 PM
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I would have to disagree with some of your points. Hate is bad... The emotion of hate is a natural phenomenon. Is it wrong to hate a rapist? Or hate a pedophile? Or hate a murderer? No. You should hate them. And for good reason. Letting that hate control you and your actions is detrimental to GYOW. But let's not say hate is bad. Hate is natural. And learning to control that hate is key to becoming an adult. I do read r/MGTOW from time to time. I don't see as much hate as you see. Most of it are …
/r/MGTOW206/03/18 01:50 PM
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It's not wrong to label something when it is something. It's too idealistic to view that any group should not be label as evil. Let's call a spade a spade. Communist governments are evil. The far right and far left are generally evil. If you believe that stealing is evil, then any group that wants bigger government is evil. If you believe that killing/violence is evil, any group that uses these tactics is evil. Why do we as Mgtow say most women are evil? Well, if you believe that people should b…
/r/MGTOW205/03/18 03:07 PM
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He's probably smoking from all the stress he gets from his wife.
/r/MGTOW02/03/18 02:35 PM
1

I think the best thing any man can do for a fellow man is build him up with a strong foundation. Like that proverb in the bible. "give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime" As nice as it is to encourage someone, it's more important to teach them something that will help them develop as a human.
/r/MGTOW01/03/18 02:23 PM
2

My hypothesis is that women self project their own thoughts onto men. Thus, women in groups talk about men penis for hours.
/r/MGTOW01/03/18 01:55 PM
1

It's quite understandable for men to go through the redpill rage. My redpill rage was short lived, maybe 3-4 months. But I learn not to self project my own behaviours on fellow Mgtow(or rather people in general), and understand that the human condition/behaviour is on a bell-curve. You may be on the upper end of the distribution on coping with anger. You did the right move on keeping your sanity by distancing yourself from the Mgtow reddit forum. But like how we become indifferent towards the ne…
/r/MGTOW228/02/18 03:16 PM
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I would be skeptical that your mother is "oblivious" to the raw deals men are dealt. She doesn't have a logical rebuttal, so she plays the "I didn't notice anything wrong card" and "love trumps all card" as answers. She's acting in a way that gives her plausible deniability. As for your situation, I'm gonna say you lack guidance in life. I do too. Matter of fact, most men do. It's not a unique situation, but it's something that's not talked about in society. What I did first after university was…
/r/MGTOW24/02/18 03:35 PM
1

I'm glad you're still alive. All I can offer you is a bit of wisdom to help guide you through life. Always put yourself first. I wish you the best, stay well brother.
/r/MGTOW23/02/18 09:49 PM
1

I also interested in the language he used. That for him, banging a chick would provide him a feeling of success. And that a sufficient alternative to banging would be masturbation with a flesh-light. I'm curious to why he would have to mention his girth and length as a way to set up his desirability or status.Edit: After a second reading, the girth and length were directed towards the purchase of a flesh light.
/r/MGTOW221/02/18 02:25 PM
1

Men, I have a hunch this person is a troll. Check their bio.
/r/MGTOW213/02/18 04:46 PM
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I never liked celebrating holidays. I don't celebrate my own birthday, and only attend family gathering out of courtesy. It's not that I hate life per say. I just think everyday should have meaning within itself, and not what society says what days are more special.
/r/MGTOW203/02/18 01:40 PM
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By shaming them not to "hate on women" by appealing to a moral virtue of some sort.
/r/MGTOW203/02/18 01:32 PM
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Don't compare feminism to mgtow. Feminism is an organized movements, with institutions, government funding, and political power. Mgtow is not the same. We don't gather in groups(physically). We don't own any institutions, we get no funding, we have no political power. Feminism seeks to change society to fit it's ideological beliefs. Mgtow does not advocate for anything other than going your own way. We do not force other people to change, hence you will find a majority of people here who endorse…
/r/MGTOW202/02/18 09:53 PM
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Well said.
/r/MGTOW202/02/18 09:07 PM
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Welcome :). I haven't fully conceptualize what it means to be a "man", but a few things I try to practice is 1) personal responsibility 2) honesty 3) integrity. I'm not sure what it is to be a man yet, but I'll keep trying to improve myself in the meantime until I figured it out.
/r/MGTOW230/01/18 08:31 PM
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I'm all for free speech and free market. What the mod did to you goes against what I'm all about and it pisses me off! I thought freedom of speech was ubiquitous among MGTOWs, but I guess I was too naive. Anyways, make yourself at home here friend.
/r/MGTOW230/01/18 08:20 PM
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I think labels are helpful to distinguish as well, but I feel indifferent to the idea. As long as we have a space to gather and discuss topics, I'm okay with whatever name the mods put on it.
/r/MGTOW213/01/18 01:53 PM
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Good choice. I would also advise not to lower your testosterone. Testosterone also helps with handling stress.
/r/MGTOW211/01/18 05:16 PM
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If I was in your shoe, I would buy a really nice sex doll. Maybe 3000$+.
/r/MGTOW211/01/18 04:51 PM
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Some Mgtows that learn about female nature through breakup or divorce will have a definite anger towards the opposite sex, but lets not conflate the two. Anyone after a breakup will be angry. That doesn't mean Mgtow itself hate women. Most men after recovering from their breakup are no longer angry, they become indifferent towards women. From your manifesto, it seems you're having a hard time wrapping your head around why the double standard and whiteknighting for women? First off, it does not p…
/r/MGTOW210/01/18 03:18 PM
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Funny article to read. Though I only read the 1st paragraph. Softboy=soyboy.
/r/MGTOW206/01/18 04:42 PM
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You can see it with most destructive behaviours. A good example is morbidly obese people. A fat person isn't fat by themselves. They need someone to take care of them if they can't move (enabler). Someone to feed them and make the $ to support their diet (enabler). They need a society that would accept them and not shame them (enablers). If they were left alone, they would have to choose between being fat and dying, or being "fit" and surviving. If you ever watch those TLC shows about fat ppl, t…
/r/MGTOW206/01/18 04:40 PM
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Personally, I think it's in all humans that we initially crave our own selfish desires. Humans enable other humans to continue their destructive behaviours, such as hypergamy. I don't know how much different a man would be if women were throwing themselves at them right from puberty. Would that man be hypergamous too? I think what's different is that men aren't enable by women to be hypergamous. The tribulations tested our patience and resolve and forged us into a more mature adult.
/r/MGTOW205/01/18 05:30 PM
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Difference is everything here is about serious talk with no comedy.
/r/MGTOW229/12/17 03:29 PM
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I think that women should have rights and should be able to do anything that a man can do This is part of the feminist indoctrination that you will have to come to terms with eventually. Rights should go hand in hand with responsibility. This is foundational to any healthy relationship. What has happen since the emancipation of women is a shift to more rights for women with less responsibility. A perfect example would be your life story. Your mother gain full custody of you, yet she failed you a…
/r/MGTOW229/12/17 03:27 PM
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Every destructive behavior requires an enabler. You're mom is a prime example to failed parenting as much as your sister is a prime example of the typical single mom. I tried telling my parents to stop handing out money to my sisters. My dad understands and actually stopped. My mother on the other hand continues to hand out money like a charity. I call her out on it every time but I know she's not gonna listen.
/r/MGTOW228/12/17 02:29 PM
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It's just shaming tactics friend. From what I understand, it's human nature to want conformity and in-group preference. They are shaming you into conformity.
/r/MGTOW228/12/17 02:24 PM
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As virtuous as it to not hold resentment towards women, having that initial anger towards women is usually the wake up call most men need to self realization. Some men are just venting out their anger :).
/r/MGTOW228/12/17 02:19 PM
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Did you go back to your father and tell him he was right about women? Perhaps ask him for some more wisdom, now that you have a new perspective on life. You might learn something new.
/r/MGTOW211/12/17 03:36 PM
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Hi Gary :)
/r/MGTOW211/12/17 03:25 PM
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Makes me wonder if all the sane and rational people reject society and refuse to reproduce, all that's left are the insane people. Like the fox experiment that took 5 generations of breeding to produce highly aggressive fox or highly tamed fox, we as a society are reaching near the 5th generation post 1st wave feminism. I think even after the collapse, those that are strong, rational and sane will start to thrive. But even then, it will take another 5 generations to rebuild society on the geneti…
/r/MGTOW209/12/17 06:05 PM
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You're right. I work in construction and I surround myself with self-made men who run their own business/freelancers. I definitely wouldn't want to talk to a 65 yrold college professor unless it was Jordan Peterson lol. A lot of my peers are old because a lot of young people don't enter this industry. I should have added that as a disclaimer.
/r/MGTOW209/12/17 04:35 PM
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Great story mate. And good for you. Very mature.
/r/MGTOW09/12/17 04:09 PM
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I remember listening to the radio a few months ago. A women was trying to destigmatize the word snowflake and say it's empowering instead. Same tactic used for other words like slut/whore/cuck.
/r/MGTOW09/12/17 04:03 PM
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You're absolutely right. Though, I would bet a dollar that if we somehow manage to take the average IQ of all mgtows, it would be higher than the general public. (However it would be unfair to say general public as men are higher IQ than women, and all Mgtows are men. So lets just say all other men).
/r/MGTOW209/12/17 03:12 PM
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I too never considered myself smart. I'm in my late 20's and I find it more interesting talking to people 3x my age. I have more insightful conversation with my elders than I do with people my age group. The feeling I get from people that are young are most of them are followers, not doers. They easily buy into ideas and propaganda. Like the example you stated "following "dreams"".
/r/MGTOW209/12/17 03:05 PM
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I'll have to take a real IQ test one day. I've been more and more interested about IQ in the last 3 months when I started to consider how well IQ correlates with one's life success.
/r/MGTOW209/12/17 02:51 PM
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Are the rules you're referring: "No misogyny allowed. No demeaning allowed. We live our own lives, and do not attack others."? Discussing female nature for it's fault isn't misogyny. It's the truth. If someone were to make something up to attack females, it's misogyny. But that's besides that point. I'm more interested why you would consider talking about female nature or showing examples of female nature as misogyny? That's something a feminist would argue when men reveal the true nature of fem…
/r/MGTOW209/12/17 12:02 AM
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I theorize it's all about their SMV (sexual market value). Why would they lie about how many sexual partners they had? I think deep down they instinctively know that even with the pro-slut feminist movement, being a slut diminishes their SMV. They go with a number that they think you would consider normal (not a slut) and hope you don't catch them in the act of lying. They tease out the number while looking at your facial cues. If your face shows disgust when they say 3, they will stop at 3 or e…
/r/MGTOW208/12/17 11:19 PM
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I don't think it's going to end in a blazing glory. The problem with creeping socialism is the ever expanding debt bubble we have inherited. Even Trump, as much as I would have voted for him if I lived in the USA, I don't think he can solve the debt bubble. He sided with the democrats on the continued lift of the debt ceiling while he tries to sort the financial crisis in DC(at least that's what I think he's doing). I think he's being pragmatic about the situation. Enforcing a debt ceiling now w…
/r/MGTOW228/11/17 07:02 PM
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Well, is she your first serious crush? Usually the more rare a feeling/experience is, the more value we put into it. I never really had a case of oneitis, but that's because I was very apathetic at a early age. A coping mechanism I had to learn to stop being so depressed and suicidal. I'm not suggesting you become apathetic like me, but you are investing a lot of your emotions onto the idea that she's the one you missed out on. The advice I give to my friends in your situation (getting over a gi…
/r/MGTOW25/11/17 05:42 PM
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Yeah, both communities are similar in terms of facts used and human nature explained. I enjoy watching most of Petersons psychoanalysis of the world. I dislike his bias towards traditionalism and women. Does Peterson approves of Mgtow? No. He only sympathize but doesn't approve of our lifestyle. I find it strange that people who vouch for freedom and liberty will turn a blind eye when it comes to men being enslaved to women. They turn around and say it's our "duty and responsibility" to be ensla…
/r/MGTOW25/11/17 05:25 PM
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I'll tell you how I avoid telling relatives I don't want to get marry. I make extremely "high" standards for women that they simply can't meet. 1) She can cook 2) She's younger than me 3) She wants to have a lot of babies 4) She's a traditionalist/housewife Even if they find someone to meets all your requirements, just add on more. But these 4 are pretty much guarantee to weed out 99.9% of all women on the market lol. But the best thing to do is just avoid the topic all together.
/r/MGTOW25/11/17 04:49 PM
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A lot of women are thinking this but not many are embolden enough to tell the world what they think.
/r/MGTOW222/11/17 06:39 PM
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At first I was vindictive towards women. Then I was depressed about the situation. Now I'm accepting the inevitable. I haven't started to prep yet, but when I'm more financially stable, I'll start the prepping!
/r/MGTOW222/11/17 04:00 PM
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You have the patience of a saint. I stopped at 5 lines in and I was irritated by the author's inability to form a proper argument. If you want a man's attention, get to the point.
/r/MGTOW217/11/17 07:26 PM
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Thanks for sharing your personal story. They say sex clouds the mind. When you're in "love" you can't think straight. Tell her you're going on a trip with your buddies or some excuse to get away from her for 1-2 weeks. Don't masturbate or have sex with other girls. Let your brain reset and allow your brain to make the most rational decision it can make. Women don't love men the same way a man loves a women. I'm 100% certain that you would never threaten her with violence or jail time. That's bec…
/r/MGTOW216/11/17 05:01 PM
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lol well said. There's also the idea that couples that spend too much time together end up hating each other more. My interactions with people are mostly superficial, most of them are my clients I interact with for business transaction. Very brief, and not personal. I don't have any close personal relationships, i tend to not form any intimate relationships with people. I have only 1 good friend I talk to about personal stuff.
/r/MGTOW211/11/17 04:45 PM
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I see. I can understand why you would avoid people if you care too much. I'm the opposite in a sense, I don't care too much so I can still interact with people without investing too much emotional value into them.
/r/MGTOW210/11/17 09:36 PM
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Your experience is valuable. I'm just curious if other would agree that men who "care too much", ie, cater to what other people expect of them, would have a hard time accepting the mgtow lifestyle (or bachelor)? A healthy disposition to apathy would set apart those that continue to accept their roles as providers vs men who seek personal freedom.
/r/MGTOW210/11/17 06:33 PM
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I'm also open for discussion but the poster hasn't replied back to any of the comments. Makes you wonder if it's just a troll.
/r/MGTOW208/11/17 06:50 PM
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My 2 cents, college and undergrad is useless unless u know exactly what you plan to do with that degree. On average people change their career 3 times within their lifespan. If you talk with many adults, you'll find maybe 60-70% of them are doing careers outside their college specialty. I'm one of them. The way colleges are structured, it's becoming more feminized. It's becoming an increasingly anti-male space on colleges. If you want a degree but you don't know what you want to do, I recommend …
/r/MGTOW208/11/17 06:40 PM
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The whole gender marxist thing is slowly chipping away at every last male dominated space imaginable. Let Mgtow be the last stronghold for a male space. I weep for the young men who are unknowingly stripped of their masculinity and male mentorship!
/r/MGTOW208/11/17 01:22 PM
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You have good company when your family are Mgtow fans. I'm not religious but god bless you and your family.
/r/MGTOW207/11/17 10:28 PM
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I will agree with yes_no_username with his sentiments, his sentiment being you decide for yourself how to dress. Though you're here asking for advice, I wouldn't hold back on giving some to a fellow mgtow. assessment of your life context and job. The only time you dress for success is if you looking for money, ie salesperson, your at a job interview, talking to your boss, etc. You have to understand, part of social interactions involves your appearance. if your not there for any financial benefi…
/r/MGTOW207/11/17 10:20 PM
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I heard PragerU was hitting utube with a lawsuit for ad-censorship 2 weeks ago. Around that time, I started to see ads again on fellow mgtow channels, like TFM. I haven't followed any developments on the lawsuit but I hope PragerU is successful.
/r/MGTOW207/11/17 09:59 PM
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I think Mgtow lean towards the truth. Be it left or right issues, whatever may be the most true, we will lean towards it. I suppose we can find ourselves somewhere along the lines of classical libertarian (ie, free speech, smaller government). Right now free speech and smaller government sits with the right side in today's political context. I guess in humanity, the last bias to be removed is our bias towards protecting women. I think most if not all mgtows have removed the bias of white knighti…
/r/MGTOW207/11/17 09:47 PM
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Humility is a great asset to have friend. My situation is different but I also could not find fault with mgtow reasoning.
/r/MGTOW207/11/17 09:37 PM
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Hi, new to the subreddit. Been Mgtow for 2 years(?) now. I don't really keep track haha. It's interesting how the article sets it up as if these known truth about female nature are somehow being proven true through empirical studies. Goes to show a large segment of the population are still blue pilled about female hypergamy.
/r/MGTOW207/11/17 09:29 PM
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