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DebateAutomatic_Safety7029/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 11:21 AM
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DebateAutomatic_Safety7029/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:31 PM
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DebateAutomatic_Safety7029/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:45 PM
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Question For WomenAutomatic_Safety7029/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 02:23 PM
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DebateAutomatic_Safety7029/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 06:52 PM
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DebateAutomatic_Safety7029/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 12:27 PM
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DebateAutomatic_Safety7029/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:43 PM
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DebateAutomatic_Safety7029/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:23 PM
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Question For WomenAutomatic_Safety7029/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:55 PM
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DebateAutomatic_Safety7029/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 11:48 AM
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DebateAutomatic_Safety7029/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 01:35 PM
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DebateAutomatic_Safety7029/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 03:18 PM
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DebateAutomatic_Safety7029/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:08 PM
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DebateAutomatic_Safety7029/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:18 PM
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DebateAutomatic_Safety7029/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 03:59 PM
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DebateAutomatic_Safety7029/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 11:57 AM
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DebateAutomatic_Safety7029/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:42 PM
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DebateAutomatic_Safety7029/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:05 PM
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Question For WomenAutomatic_Safety7029/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:01 AM
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DebateAutomatic_Safety7029/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:45 PM
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DebateAutomatic_Safety7029/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 02:05 PM
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DebateAutomatic_Safety7029/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:11 PM
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DebateAutomatic_Safety7029/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:28 PM
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DebateAutomatic_Safety7029/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 01:28 PM
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DebateAutomatic_Safety7029/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:25 PM
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DebateAutomatic_Safety7029/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:58 AM
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-1

Weird to flex so hard that you don't need them. Maybe it's the wording?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:06 PM
-5

My real purpose of the post is to state a lot of women usually can get that without committing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 07:12 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 03:33 PM
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What was the point of that? 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:47 PM
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She doesn’t have to. This is a hypothetical question type thing that no woman has been able to answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:44 PM
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What was the excuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:40 PM
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I didn’t say they weren’t capable. Where’s that come from?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:27 PM
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Friends are not the same thing as a partner. If you can’t understand that you can’t even speak on these issues. I don’t even fully disagree with you but you are so dismissive and disrespectful that I’m there’s almost no point in trying with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:26 PM
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True in some ways. But I think in order to understand romantic relationships you need to at least have been in one
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:23 PM
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What is JFC? People don’t just make you into a friend. You have to offer something to them for them to consider you. The experience in referring to is the state of being romantically involved with a woman at all. You cannot experience that solo.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:22 PM
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I don’t think anyone thinks a woman would save them. It would help with certain aspects of human experience but it wouldn’t save you from anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:20 PM
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I think at least subconsciously the idea would flash in their minds. Not to say they can’t stifle the feeling but to say it wouldn’t exist on any level is absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:19 PM
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There’s a difference between gaining experience early in life and not having any until late in life. Those two people have vastly different mindsets and opinions and most women are the early and most men are the late.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:15 PM
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It isn’t but we are talking about MEN here so what good does that statement do for a topic about men specifically. Seems like you’re just flinging shit right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:14 PM
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Sex is one thing but not the first that comes to mind. Sex is a good one though as it could teach those men that sex is just “pretty good” once you understand the basic level of it. The scenario of never having experience and what that does. I just got a notification from your reply elsewhere where your opinion literally shows proof in what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:13 PM
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Hypothetically if a woman did give those men a chance I think it would make them better. A lot of men don’t even know why they want romance and the more they dive the more clear their ideas become. They chase without purpose until they learn. They must learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:09 PM
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See that one ain’t me. I’ve since learned how to have my own dreams and ambitions, but would still prefer a partner. If I lost my current girlfriend I’d definitely immediately set out to find another, but that’s besides the point. I think some men can be bettered by a woman. And I don’t think that’s necessarily bad either?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:07 PM
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My experience is that I’ve been love bombed and left behind. But during those times I’ve had an infallible sense of determination and self that helped me push past pain, fatigue, mental anguish, all for the success to support my partner further. Once they left I just didn’t have that same power anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:02 PM
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I wouldn’t say incapable. But there is a certain experience you can’t get unless a woman takes a chance with you. You literally cannot comprehend a scenario you were never in.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:00 PM
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I do think men sort of need a starter girlfriend. But then again I know most men get crushed by girl behavior early in life and carry that hurt through life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:59 PM
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I wasn’t talking about you though. This is again a hypothetical.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:56 PM
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Like I said. Those are crazy incel deep end types. I’m talking about mild awkwardness. But anyways I won’t discount your experience. I fully believe you. I also fully believe men in the position I spoke of could be rehabilitated by this scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:56 PM
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A lot of men are open to first and last. But I do believe that your take as well. It’s weird how that is happening to both men and women and we can’t find out how to stop it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:54 PM
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Those are deep end insane incels. I’m talking about dudes that just aren’t that good at this game
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:52 PM
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Friendships with women don’t typically happen unless you have social proof that you are at least good enough with women. For example, a girlfriend. Women don’t typically befriend guys struggling to date because they don’t wanna feel like his opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:51 PM
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Yeah but those women don’t wear signs saying that. And even in your case I’m sure she choose you for multiple different reasons on top of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:41 PM
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Friendship and romance are different branches of the same tree. Yes it can help with certain aspects. But romance and a relationship is way deeper and more intimate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:40 PM
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Yes. But that’s only the surface. It can go a tad bit deeper. Even with this hypothetical woman leaving he would still be better socially and thus able to find another partner. I’d go as far as to say this small experience is required for growth and men who miss it are stunted.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:36 PM
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I like how you use gay implication as an insult. True colors of the “tolerant”. This isn’t about consent either. But pop off I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:39 PM
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Never a woman’s trauma or faults
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:35 PM
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Well it is a valid question don’t you think? Why him and not me? Why are you with me if I’m not what you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:09 PM
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I think within a relationship if it’s at any level serious you should be able to have some type of right to the person agreeing to be your partner. Otherwise it’s this weird dance of inevitable end.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:59 PM
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Because she casually talks about it in the friend group
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:49 PM
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That’s why I’m not with her. I want someone that’s into me. Not that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:47 PM
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Yeah most these comments are ignoring nuance.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:45 PM
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I didn’t remain.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:43 PM
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I mean I see appeal but that wasn’t even what the topic was.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:26 PM
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They just do. They’re neurodivergent though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:26 PM
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What? Sorry I don’t understand
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:25 PM
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Uh. How? I’m saying that the tactics are flawed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:10 PM
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I’m sorry but the scenario is too weird for me. If my current partner won’t give me head under any circumstances but claims to enjoy doing it loudly and proudly, that’s weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:10 PM
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You think that I think that. You sound literally insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:08 PM
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I think you are painting this far too black and white.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:04 PM
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Well none of that actually stops the assholes. Otherwise everyone would be happier by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:03 PM
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That’s not the point of the post. She’s an example. That’s why it’s being talked about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:03 PM
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I don’t think anyone owes anyone anything. However, I don’t think within a relationship you shouldn’t be holding back so strongly against someone you claim to care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:02 PM
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I didn’t want to treat anyone poorly. Again. No idea what you are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:01 PM
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My ex would just blurt her previous experiences. Good and bad. And would talk about things she happily did. But any sexual conversation she needed “warming up to”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:00 PM
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That scenario isn’t the one I’m talking about. If you are coerced, raped, harassed, or anything else criminal yeah it makes sense but when it’s literally just the fact that they specifically won’t do it for you simply because it’s you and are fine with doing it anywhere else that’s weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:59 PM
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Even then. I know men who slow cooked sexual relationships for years before pumping and dumping. It doesn’t matter how long the wait is, the right type of wrong man will wait it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:58 PM
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I was mainly asking if you can’t see how that can be seen as insulting on any level. You’re jumping to wild conclusions and aren’t debating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:56 PM
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Well it is an imposed punishment. I wasn’t the “him” she was trying to avoid. And no I don’t treat women as property, that’s a weird thing to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:53 PM
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Well nowadays she gives head. Back then, no. I guess it depends on who and when which makes it a little more insulting.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:51 PM
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The three month or six month rule only works on guys that have zero patience. If you just wait it out does that magically make a man a good man that won’t abuse the opportunity? No. So I don’t get why some women act like it’s a magic cheat code.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:50 PM
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She could easily be put in that scenario regardless of how long she makes the next man wait. What if I decided to wait the six months but I was the same kind of man? That rule protects nothing. Maybe high strung weirdos that can’t wait. But other than that? You are still in danger.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:49 PM
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Not what I’m talking about. If you’re already going on a date or dating them or dealing with them consistently would you still do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:25 PM
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If you want to date someone hypothetically, wouldn’t you want to put your best foot forward and not give them “meh, I don’t know you. So I won’t try.” Energy?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:19 PM
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I think both scenarios are equally terrible but if we’re being real here men suffer from gray area more than women at a higher rate. Though I will say women suffer harder from gray area scenarios but at a much lower rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 05:24 PM
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So platonic relationships are a means to getting relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 05:08 PM
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Who do you date? How do you get to know anyone? Everyone is a stranger
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 05:06 PM
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I think if you consistently or even if you simply plan to engage with someone on a semi consistent basis you should show a baseline level of respect. In a dating context.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 05:05 PM
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I guarantee you have more options than most of the men in this subreddit alone not to mention the greater Reddit, then the internet then invisible men on the street who go years without even a conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 07:24 PM
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It’s definitely not less than 3%. But considering your flair is “hopeless” I wouldn’t say you’re in the right mindset to have a reasonable debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 07:08 PM

It wouldn’t be worth it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 09:46 AM

That is for myself
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 09:45 AM
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I’m not
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:08 PM
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[ Removed by Reddit ]
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:59 PM
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Well my ideal type, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:57 PM
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Some people just want destination. Journey is only pain to many.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:56 PM
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I wouldn’t be in that scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:54 PM
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It wouldn’t be my entire purpose. A major goal isn’t the same as giving your entire life up.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:54 PM
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No matter how much success or achievement is made I would hate a life without romance. Nothing you could hypothetically grant me would beat a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:53 PM
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Living the other parts of my life that I’ve always had??
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:52 PM
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If you and your partner cater to each other to a healthy degree that’s bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:52 PM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:51 PM
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Life doesn’t stop because you want romance. Why is this argument never accounting for nuance? It’s always you have no life for wanting romance or you are completely and utterly fulfilled without one. So weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:51 PM
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I wouldn’t say all of my joy hinges on one person and it’s so weird that women often assume that when I literally state it’s not. What it is though is a category of life I will be pretty disappointed if left unfilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:49 PM
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I think that’s just your opinion on the matter? Because some people aren’t so burnt out and fried they can’t fathom love being a necessary part of life? It’s not lazy if I’m still improving and doing the work. I’m just know that reaching the peak of my goals will lead to romantic opportunities and that is why I work towards them. I’d never be satisfied unless I find a partner. No amount of wealth or achievement would ever scratch the curiosity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:47 PM
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I think this is ignoring most of the hat I was trying to say to blow it all off. Yes. You should be happy alone to an extent. But the type of animal we are, zero romantic connection is gonna leave a mental scar whether you wanna admit it or not. Should you make it anyone else’s problem? Hell no but as a society we should find a way to help such individuals so extreme ones don’t force it to be a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:41 PM
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I don’t that’s a stretch either but willingness and ableness to be devoted to someone shouldn’t be looked at so harshly when one hopes to serve their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:37 PM
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When limerence is over and they inevitably upset you and the butterflies go away you can recognize that they are still your partner and you standby them. Two people recognize that they are in it for each other without any overwhelming feeling of lust or desire running the whole thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:33 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:31 PM
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Sometimes
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:49 PM

I think when men are chronically single the biggest problem they have is a lack of community. Hell, even a damn discord server would be infinitely better than zero social community.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 09:44 PM
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Eh I’m getting my toxic takes out of my system if I’m being honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 11:15 PM
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Not saying they are altruistic. In my mind I’m thinking “why would I screw you over when the deal is sweet enough as it is?”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 11:12 PM
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Dude the girl I know was a 6/10 and f were going out of 30 she’s a 10/30. A cute but not exceptionally attractive girl. She came over while we were in school a few times and we hooked up. She literally doesn’t want to work or anything. Had no greater ambition for her life and literally told me she wants to sit around the house and fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 11:12 PM
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If the chips are down getting with someone that will more likely than not guarantee your safety is kind of one of the best strategies in the game. Only a female build could pull it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 11:08 PM
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Honestly most age gap couples the woman is happy about it. As a 26 year old all my life most the girls my age were dating men up to twice my current age since high school. You can’t get away from it and women seem to choose it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 08:37 PM
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I mean… it either happens actively or passively.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 08:34 PM
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What if they can’t even get fat or single mom to date?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 08:33 PM
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Let’s not pretend it’s all downsides. Plenty of women do just fine. Probably at the same rate that they don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 08:30 PM
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I’ve witnessed it. Dunno what else to tell you. I’m not lying
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:15 PM
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Actually men do get flown out just a bit more than you’d think.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 06:58 PM
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I’m in a relationship don’t really need to bail anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 06:57 PM
-1

My sister won’t leave a man she easily could and they abuse each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 06:55 PM
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I think the phenomenon comes from the fact that those who develop this mindset aren’t very good at attracting and wooing. People act flakey or whatever bad attributes you wanna assign when they aren’t that into you. These guys run into plenty of mild to no interest women and the ensuing behavior leads them to believe women just do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 06:38 PM
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It seems like both men and women don’t get grace from each other
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 06:32 PM
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Not most.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:43 PM
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I meant behavior not whether or not you’re a bum
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:01 PM
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Apathy rather than like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:44 PM
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I love that you assume every guy is only after the fabled nut. It’s not that great of a thing to chase. I want genuine connection with sex sprinkles lovingly on top not sex sex and sex
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:54 PM
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Uh. That’s nowhere near what I’m talking about???
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:51 PM
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Earned as in you have to impress them before they decide to put their best foot forward
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:50 PM
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Well that’s very true. Mostly at least. I don’t think women are socially adept. I think they are just socially accepted at a higher rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:46 PM
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Pretty much what I’m saying is that you must impress before anyone shows you the best of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:42 PM
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I’m not saying that at all. You always take things to insane extremes. I learn by charting and analyzing things. You took it to that odd place.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:40 PM
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Well ignore what you think for a second and take what I said at face value. What do you think about my interpretation of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:37 PM
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Yeah. This is a dating subreddit I’m sure we’re here to discuss that
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:34 PM
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I’m autistic. I literally understand things in that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:32 PM
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I’m not expecting anyone to break boundaries. I think “break the rules” is extreme wording. They really want it to be a more “Hehe look what me and my lover are getting up to” rather than whatever disaster scenario is going on in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:31 PM
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He asked far more than what that picture could convey. He asked for personal opinions and examples and more and you sent a screenshot
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:29 PM
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In the context I was using it for it should be somewhat obvious what I mean right? For example if a woman says she doesn’t spend much time with any particular person I’m sure she doesn’t slack on spending time with her boyfriend right? If she did that means she doesn’t love him
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:27 PM
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It’s not about making yourself uncomfortable. The idea is that you should want to do those things with the person you actually like. The money analogy is almost good but dudes will absolutely pay that last 600 they have if it gets the point across. So
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:26 PM
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It’s a guideline. That pic you posted is supposed to be followed as a guide I imagine that’s why you posted it. And so my response was women don’t even tend to practice what they preach about sociality.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:23 PM
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Videos won’t really save someone that downtrodden that they need to search for said videos.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:21 PM
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Women don’t even tend to follow this
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:19 PM
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Not really. Strange place to take it when that’s not at all what I mentioned. Unless you’re genuinely asking that and not fishing for a specific line for a gotcha argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:14 PM
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I don’t think it’s a fully moral thing though. Person A may not care enough about person B but person C just Rocks A’s world enough for them to shape up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:13 PM
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That’s not the point I was making
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:07 PM
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Right. But like I said I think good people is a thing that depends on who those people want to be good for.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:07 PM

Women are the more valuable gender because men have a biological imperative to inflate the value of women. Women just decided to take advantage of that while simultaneously downplaying how much power they hold.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 11:17 AM
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Don’t think being fully understood would happen. Even with my friend group of people similar to me and a romantic partner with the same afflictions can’t fully understand me. But there’s love.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 12:26 PM
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Yes. It has happened. Lots of times. I do however think I have it easier than most in my position but it’s a struggle too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 12:23 PM
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Dude. It affects me big time. I can mask it a little but everyone who is around me long enough knows something is “off” I’m shit at most jobs. It takes longer to train me. I take orders poorly I am afraid to interact. I just somehow did some things that helped me socially.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 12:18 PM
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Being autistic never stopped me from relationships. Even high functioning autistic people can make it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 12:11 PM
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As a high functioning autistic man it’s kinda hard. I use to just be a goofball and that got me a lot of attraction that I didn’t know how to capitalize on. Then certain social traumas scared that out of me and I became a husk until I was 25. I relearned that community is the way to go but I haven’t gotten my old self back fully yet. So think it’s the pressure of a ghetto family. The men said no goofball gets the girl (even though I was best at that when I was acting silly) but everything I like…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 12:02 PM
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I didn’t say boring. But even then any metric of bad personality man can be found in a relationship or even married. Something else is wrong with the guys we are talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:40 AM
1

I usually like your comments this thread of yours is literally just sarcastic and snarky for literally no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:09 PM
3

Then why say all that at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:58 PM
1

That doesn’t make or break anyone though. It’s as random as any other factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:53 PM
3

I’m just telling you the experience of people that exist and have a grim reality when it comes to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:52 PM
4

Homeless women don’t wanna be picked up by some dude. Hell I had homeless female friends say they’d rather tough out being in the streets.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:42 PM
3

You took it to the most silly extreme. I’m just saying be kinder and patient with a man you claim to wanna date sheesh
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:16 AM
1

Depends on what woman and with who.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 11:32 PM
5

Neither of those are good or bad to be honest. He could have been an abuser in those four long relationships and the 200 while crazy could be a streak of bad luck of crazy proportions.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 08:45 PM
8

Not the act of leaving him but the fact that It was over him being nervous about doing something for the first time and you treating it like he was disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 08:43 PM
5

I’m in one
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 08:35 PM
8

Experience brings baggage as well so what’s the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 08:33 PM
11

And so is he? Treating him like shit cuz of that hardly seems like you think of him as someone worth caring about. Which is strange if you dated them?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 06:58 PM
2

Empathy, consistency, honesty, humor, love.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 06:56 PM
5

Also about not noticing a red flag, an experienced bad actor can just hide them long enough to abuse you later, you aren’t actually saving yourself with that being the main metric or gauge.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 06:55 PM
1

Sounds painful all around. As long as you take care and consideration as well. Because people who demand that sometimes don’t give it back.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 06:54 PM
6

First one sounds tragic. Sounds like he could have overcome it if you didn’t dump him right there. Seems to me like all that would do is ADD trauma and make his next attempt even more of a nervous wreck. Sure therapy and whatnot might help him but do you not see how that can affect someone? You don’t have to care but do you see it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 06:51 PM
2

If you like the guy why would you do something with a previous ex that you wouldn’t with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 06:48 PM
1

I agree with you but that’s not the situations I find myself in. I get love bombed and then treated as inconsequential
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:11 PM
1

Last relationship would not hang out for weeks and was okay with that. She wants to only hang out publicly and not home
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 02:28 AM
1

It’s not control that any lonely person is after. They just want an end to that specific suffering.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 08:15 PM
1

Is that really that red of a flag? Over the personality traits I mentioned? Wanting to be with someone is as red as being a woman beater or a gang member. Good to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 06:54 PM
2

Probably loneliness? Neglect and many other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 06:43 PM
1

No? I’m serious. I care about these topics I’m not here to be sarcastic. I do have experience with being appropriately excited but they wanted stoic men and it jumbles my mind a bit but yeah your example helped me realize stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 06:37 PM
1

Oh wow that actually changed my mind. Okay I can see the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 06:33 PM
2

Even then it isn’t work holding these people back. For some reason people won’t admit they are fickle.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 04:43 PM
1

That’s not even the main reason these people don’t text back to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 04:41 PM
1

Honestly nine times outta ten it’s not even work itself that stops them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 04:40 PM
1

I have had the same phone rules and still would break them to shoot a text back. I’ve never seen a person genuinely interested not force time to make a text back. Man or woman they will find a way if they care.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 04:35 PM
0

I’m a laborer and still have time to shoot a text.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 04:32 PM
1

So not caring is better?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 04:31 PM
0

Yes so do I. And?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 04:29 PM
0

I have a job too. Never stopped me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 04:28 PM
1

Yeah to me if the relationship is even going anywhere a text back is so easy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:25 PM
2

In that time you didn’t think of the person you hopefully should be happy to reply to or check on?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:22 PM
0

Everyone has a life. I think it’s merely a disagreement with no right or wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:22 PM
-1

I mean a few hours proves disinterest no? I’ve never witnessed someone taking a few hours unless they just don’t wanna stomach talking to them
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:20 PM
1

Depends. Women are quick to call any interest those things so it’s hard to tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:12 PM
1

What is desperation? Women are quick to call almost any interest desperate so I’m trying to gauge it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:07 PM
1

So the argument is under mutual attraction implied first? Rather than a guy trying and hoping?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:52 PM
1

Crazy? Isn’t that bad? What does that mean
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:47 PM
1

Nah. Can’t be my area. Gotta just be me I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:45 PM
1

Honestly based on my experience any excitement is deemed bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:44 PM
1

Well what about overall. It’s all just who is doing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:43 PM
1

Okay I can’t believe people do the second one but I’m sure they do. What I’m talking about the first example being seen as the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:42 PM
1

Yeah that’s wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:42 PM
1

Yeah I figured that bit. It’s more about who is saying it than what was said
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:41 PM
1

Being mildly excited is desperate?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:39 PM
-2

I wasn’t talking about extremes though. And like I said just tone it back. She doesn’t even sound like a bad girl
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:37 PM
0

Fucked up world I guess but I’ve seen it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:34 PM
1

Over text I’ve said that and she flatly told me she would prefer if I wasn’t so excited like I was hanging on her interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:33 PM
-2

Since pace requires two I would simply not go along with such things?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:33 PM
0

Literally? I’ve experienced it. But you really can’t engage without a reveal like that cmonnnn ;-;
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:31 PM
2

I don’t even mean the extreme version. I mean just literally excited for the next date.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:27 PM
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“I can’t wait to see you again!” For example would be a turn off for most women I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:25 PM
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Huh. I mean. Wow I wouldn’t be scared off id probably just talk about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:25 PM
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Im not having casual sex because it’s gross to me. I’m not well versed in brain chemicals so I’ll take your word for it. I’m not obsessed with looks. I go for average. Honestly I don’t trust hot women so I wouldn’t gun for them anyways. Dutch dating is probably the hardest pitch. Women report to me often even with good intent they don’t wanna hear upfront. However I do think it is effective so you win there.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 12:44 PM
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Honestly I don’t care. Men who do care are overprotective over their wallets. Like I get that a woman can just take you for the free date but honestly, so? You got to go out with a hopefully attractive to you woman and that articulates to women around you that you are safe enough to date which would enable you to go on more dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 12:40 PM
-3

Women aren’t entitled to relationships after giving sex either. But they hate that dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:55 PM
2

Whatever causes desperation is becoming more common.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 12:25 AM
1

I think there’s a lot going on there. You are right but I think everyone wants connection regardless of how hungry for sex a man can be. I think men are usually in such a drought that they can’t not try their hand at courting someone. Regardless of how much they don’t really want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:14 PM
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A lot of men probably don’t actually like the women they’re courting. That’s just a guess though
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 09:40 PM

Because those men are attractive. Exceptionally so.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 07:34 PM
1

This isn’t even true statistically. Poor people have the most children.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:06 PM
2

I don’t agree with the dudes that think that. So…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 01:01 AM
0

I mean. I’m an adult content creator so… it’s pretty much my job to have saex
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 11:35 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 11:34 PM
1

Could be that I’m autistic
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 11:34 PM
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I think it’s a more complex conversation than is or isn’t to be honest. Because it’s not special but it is necessary. And yes you can live without sex your whole life. Ain’t many people willing to actually do that too and mean it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 09:14 PM
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I don’t follow manosphere beliefs for that reason. I like women as people. I genuinely think having experience is why I was able to look at things that way though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 09:13 PM
-1

Okay that is probably the best answer I will see. I’m not saying outright to hide it. I guess from my perspective the way I see it is Sex is an act performed when both parties are agreeing to do it. The woman knows what sex means and can lead to and is still in the mood and down for the fun. When that happens to then also hear “hey this is a big risk!” It’s like… yeah but you’re still here to have sex so what even is the actual point of bringing it up. Most women I hope are having sex with peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 09:12 PM
1

They definitely do exist and I have yet to state they don’t. But actually you’re right about that. I should have stated who I was talking about but the current title and presentation is a bit more interesting to see the reactions. I’m not trying to gaslight anyone though. Because my observation is that most average dudes are not sex hungry freaks. I do know the sex hungry freaks who are attractive and therefore not seen as problematic, however I think that there is a disconnect happening with bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 09:08 PM
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The risk exists yes. But if it’s that scary sex wouldn’t be as common as it is now. When women sleep with a man, they already calculated said risk and accepted it to have sex. So what’s the point in bringing up said risk when most times sex occurs she had to have thought about that risk and accepted it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 09:04 PM
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No? I’m asking a question, but it’s just strange because in a debate how do I respond to that childish question? Want me to go “nonono trust me I’m a sex haver!!!” Or sarcastically agree with you, or tell my own sex life story which… none of that sounds “good” so it’s just a weird comment overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:52 PM
5

Right.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:49 PM
1

Weird comment to be honest. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:48 PM
2

I don’t think those guys represent a majority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:47 PM
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Well I’d like to engage honestly. Thought I was. But what did I miss? What re these men saying? I’ve never heard a man screaming “I only want sex!” Unless they’re a weirdo in a weird corner of a comment section
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:46 PM
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What do you mean by lack of backbone? Like in what way? Can you give an example?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:43 PM
1

Honestly this is a tough one. Based on my own definition I think adult men shift from good to bad based on their experience and how they interpret it. For a long time I was bitter until I started getting experience and that chilled me out and gave me the confidence to have more. I got better and better until I was where I needed to be in dating. I’d say percentage wise it would be 40% good. 20% completely bad and 40% so unremarkable that you don’t care whether they’re good or bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:40 PM
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Fully agree. I think this should honestly be a post on its own.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:37 PM
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Maybe the wording is just very “Meh” sounding? But besides that like I said a lot of those same guys you mentioned aren’t doing well in the relationship side or hookup side. So clearly a focus shift isn’t gonna help them either. What do you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:35 PM
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Because as women routinely tell us. There are different groups of men all saying contradictory things. While I think that is somewhat of a cop out answer there is a boring level of truth in it. Me personally I’d never lie about what I want. Why? Because it’s the fastest way to not get what I want. So I simply try to avoid lying. Can’t say I’ve never lied ever in my life, but for the most part I’m solid at telling the truth. I’ll never state something at 100% certainty because at any point I coul…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:33 PM
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I don’t think those guys are having luck on the relationship side of things either. Hell even that story you had just sounds negative as an experience for a guy. You learned and got the curiosity out and then dump. But honestly I half agree with you. It took a lot of motion for me to make my way. Being on all sides of the fence I learned that it’s all about knowing people and being in a good position to capitalize on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:30 PM
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Yes exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:27 PM
0

In my post I say the argument of men only think of sex which I talked about. Also the risks of sex for women is one I find myself at odds with like pregnancy. One reason being is if a woman decides to sleep with a man, aren’t they already calculating that risk? If so at the point they do sleep with that man it’s already been accepted so why use that as a thing to hide behind when if you decide to do it you already know of said risk?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:27 PM
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I’ve lived both with and without it. When I say isn’t special I mean the arguments about it being made aren’t all that strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:21 PM
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There is plenty of discussion below. So you see people debating. You’re asking that for no reason
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:03 PM
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I agree. Hard not to when the evidence is abundant.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 03:26 PM
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Why wouldn’t you be able to pursue that in a relationship? Does some mystical force trap you once you’re in one?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 03:22 PM
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I think people learn those things anyways. With or without romantic relations.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 03:21 PM
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They aren’t gonna die on the single hill. They will settle. Men who are stuck will die on that hill and there isn’t much choice for them there. Less bite to that statement when you realize they can opt out of that whenever. And I wasn’t talking about all of those extremes you listed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 03:20 PM
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I listed my definition of good in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:55 PM
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Also how much would you actually be teaching hypothetically? I don’t think a guy with no experience is that hopeless. Probably more unlucky than anything
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:55 PM
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Interesting topic tbh. Don’t you think that opens you up to a different kind of trouble easily offset by choosing a less experienced guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:45 PM
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Uh. No? Even if they did why would that change anything? Anyways nah he has lots of women and travels for events and shit like that. My family is fairly normal my dad just is a thug from New York and his friends all get up to that lifestyle. Plenty of women there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:44 PM
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In my family there are mostly players. All the men are. Except me and my brother. My uncle is the backbone of a large community on the east coast and has multiple women across multiple states that would kill and die for him. This isn’t boasting it’s what I’ve seen my whole life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:36 PM
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I know too man bachelor party types with droves of women waiting decades for a man that doesn’t care
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:32 PM
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No. But that is also interesting to talk about
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:28 PM

Wow you are pretentious. Obviously the debate part is for those that think differently coming forward to talk about it as they are doing. You must be trolling
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:25 PM
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Is no experience that bad? Isn’t that how the bad men run rampant on the market?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:22 PM
1

Where do you get the scoop on that?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:17 PM
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Unless you are against finding romance I wouldn’t say never
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:14 PM
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In my experience women claim they don’t want a relationship all the time. What they end up doing is being impressed and falling into one anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:09 PM
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It’s for discussion. With the people who think otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:05 PM
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I wouldn’t mind doing most of them as long she wasn’t weird about it honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:52 AM
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I'm not talking about extreme cases. Guess it depends on the risks you're concerned about?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 02:11 PM
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Okay
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:20 PM
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Probably not many. But they cast wide nets.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:11 PM
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Why would you be on a dating adjacent subreddit with the mentality that goes against wanting to date?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:06 PM
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Yes. Because discernment will not work against men who knows how to play the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:55 PM
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Everyone can. But will they? As for the advice it's the usual work on your personality refinement, get in shape, wear better clothes, use some nice colognes get out and part of a community where you are welcomed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:49 PM
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They fail at it a lot so I'd say not. And men usually lie to be appealing. Hiding even their most devilish traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:48 PM
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How is that moving the goal post? That's what I said in the op
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:48 PM
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It's not say but it's doable. You've heard the advice a thousand times. Get there. It's possible. Even fat slobs that don't shower have a girlfriend. I'm autistic and I have a loving woman. Like dude if people like that can pull it off you got a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:47 PM
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There's stuff you can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:46 PM
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I guess nawt. If you wanna talk about it we can for the next 20 minutes
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:46 PM
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Once you have attraction mastered, you can pick your partner and set the rules for the relationship. If a man doesn't do that, that's when all the shit you listed happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:43 PM
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No. People aren't bad. I'd say it's more simple than that honestly. People only do what they want. If they want you, you get every ones best behavior. However, if you fail to maintain that want you just get treated like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:42 PM
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Yes. It got removed for posting too fast haha
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:41 PM
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I wouldn't say that I said they don't know who the good or bad actors are they only see attractive. And yes men only have it hard on the first level. Which is getting your ticket in. Once you accomplish that, it's really not that bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:40 PM
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No it's not because that's all stuff for presentation on the front end. Once that's accomplished there's almost no effort from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:38 PM
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There's so many ways they can though. Personality refinement, getting in shape, better clothes, working on career. Even just two of those things can help amazingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:35 PM
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Yeah on the front end it's harder. But once they are attractive enough through any metric he can navigate just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:31 PM
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They have it harder because it's a defense game. One they usually don't have any introspection on. So yeah harder. Once a man becomes attractive it's literally a done deal from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:30 PM
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Yeah it got removed for posting too fast
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:30 PM

I would never show my female friends this haha
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 02:28 AM

Why would I?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 02:27 AM

I have female friends and dating a woman. Most of my posts are more for the men struggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:43 AM

It's okay to be poor too. I am glad I have the female friends I do
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:40 AM

Women mostly don't want anything to do with men they don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:38 AM
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Depends on who I guess cuz I wouldn't mind at all
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:07 AM

Thank you. Love the reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 11:39 PM

Women form friendships easier because people instantly are welcoming to women. Not everyone wants to be some random guys friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 11:05 PM

I did?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 11:04 PM

That's not what this post was about
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 08:31 PM

Why is average considered low value?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 08:25 PM

Not what was said but doubt you'll listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 08:25 PM

Never said it would make you less lonely. I said a lot of women will settle for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:58 PM
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I sell adult content with a friend and if I was dating her I wouldn't have problems with it. It's a stupid concert honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:47 PM

Obviously not. Don't know what the pint of that question is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:41 PM

It doesn't mean bad either
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:40 PM

Yeah that's pretty foolish. I would think that's when you start working harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:25 PM

I've dated women who's appearance wasn't favorable. She cheated because she wanted to feel desired by more men. I'd also argue that women have more of a chance at finding better relationships. They get to stand in the ring more often on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 01:41 PM

Love, romance, friendship and hobbies are all different categories of fulfillment. Even if someone has the other three. It's not wrong to desire romance. The notion that having the other three will make you not want a relationship as much is a sentiment only shared by people who live in abundance.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 01:35 PM

I have a girlfriend. Even if I didn't I don't see how throwing what I said back at me accomplished or meant anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 01:33 PM

It is. But I'm not the one who brought all that up. Ordinary relationships do come with commitments. But if you want a relationship that's what you sign up for?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 01:12 PM

People act flakey because they don't see the value the other presents. It's not a moral thing it's just not worth it to them. But playing the game is fun so they indulge.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 01:10 PM

Anyone amazingly worthy are usually flaky because of that worth. You'd have to have equal pull.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 01:07 PM

I'm not saying anything complex. Most people arguing are mostly playing coy and fishing for a gotcha
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 01:04 PM

You are playing coy. You know I'm talking about specific people in a specific scenario. Bringing up widows not only is pointless but again, not the topic of discussion. A widow is not nearly the same as a single woman who is single because she doesn't want to be with an average man while being average herself but will still take that average man out of desperation. Where would a widow fit in that topic? Nowhere and you knew that. You just wanted a cop out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 01:00 PM

I'm not talking about bad. I'm talking about ordinary people coming together and somehow that's considered a fate worse than death.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 12:56 PM

True.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 12:55 PM

I think you are taking this point I never made to an extreme that isn't even necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 12:52 PM

That I see a lot for sure. Do you think people don't give the good within themselves because they don't think others are worthy of it? We can't have this much chaos in the market without that being the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 12:49 PM

When I say decent person that includes everything you listed. I would not consider someone that can't handle culture or finances decent because they don't have their mind or shit together. Again, failure at all of those things is an extreme that average men aren't fucking up royally at.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 12:47 PM

I think that's an unfair assessment. Wanting friendship and wanting romance are two very different things. And the desire for one is valid even if nobody owes it to you, you are deserving of finding it out there. And u never said unattractive or boring. I said average. Regular. Somehow that's ugly to y'all. It just means normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 12:45 PM

I don't? I never even mentioned sex I was talking about relationships. You're projecting at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 12:38 PM

That sounds like a lot of work to be a piece of shit. But I guess most men do that? I have no idea how that's possible. I don't like lying myself, I could never do all that bullshit at that point I'd just live my truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 12:37 PM

Then why do they settle in the first place? It's not societal expectation, it's human nature to go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 12:31 PM

We weren't but the reply you wanted me to acknowledge said “you” which means me which means man which is why I said men… see this is why I needed an explanation I'm not being funny I literally missed the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 12:27 PM

If you aren't compatible with decent people I don't know what to tell you, like what's wrong with them then? Not saying you need to pick up every average guy you see but they can't be that fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 12:25 PM

I wouldn't doubt it. Doesn't mean my points are wrong though? With how much healthcare we have the odd crazy man probably would be the number one cause. I'm not researched enough to argue on that front though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 12:24 PM

Well from what I understand it seems to be the story of most men’s lives? I mean…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 12:22 PM

Yes. Do I have flaws? Absolutely? Overall I think I'm good company. I make people laugh, I give considerate gifts to all my friends, I'm a goofball, my friends tell me they love me when I go home, shit I hope I'm good company and I hope to be better every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 12:21 PM

How do men like that land dates in the first place? Like genuinely wondering. How?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 12:20 PM

To an extent they are. Doesn't mean they don't feel it or types of it. The type in the post is the one they are larping.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 12:17 PM

I'm open to learning, could you explain it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 12:16 PM

That's not at all what I claimed. Even said women do have a different form of loneliness and while valid isn't as dire because most opt out of the kind I'm talking about. That part is the larp. Didn't say they are not human or valid or anything. Yet people keep saying I am. Funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 12:05 PM

Didn't even say shitty. Just average. Like you know, most of the human population? Actually I excluded negative extremes for this exact point. Just average.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 12:02 PM

I'm not even talking about like super unattractive men. I mean literally average. Not ugly, not hot, regular in all categories.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 12:00 PM

Didn't say women couldn't feel things? Especially loneliness? Must not have read the post I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 11:59 AM

And why take it then? Why have the kids with the man that is trying but isn't enough? Can't you see how that is technically larp?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 11:58 AM

Why even take it then? It happens so much that it begs the question. Why not die on the metaphorical hill like some of these guys will? Why have kids and live with that type of man that just ain't making the sparks fly? Why use him for the tools but not for the love that he will be trying to give?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 11:58 AM

This never said that women can't be lonely. You just assumed. Dunno how you did that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 11:56 AM

Aspects of it are larping. As I said in the post. Two things can be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 11:56 AM

The point was most will settle no matter how loud they say that they won't. And the men they are settling with are decent. Not superstars, but decent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 11:55 AM

It's a truth people don't like to admit to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 11:52 AM

But she'd still take the relationship if the chips are down. As I said in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 11:52 AM

She agrees that women can find a okay and average relationship with an okay average guy that means well if she really wanted to. And I even said in my post women definitely can feel loneliness and the different form of loneliness is valid. Never said they couldn't. You just want to believe that for some reason I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 11:51 AM

I don't understand your analogy. And it's I don't think women are lying I just think they are larping about this issue. Plenty of men will die alone. Women say they are okay dying alone but won't stick to that. And that's okay I'm literally merely pointing it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 11:49 AM

The post isn't untrue. Most people are decent folk. Men and women. I think the problem is we don't want to show our best to everyone we meet. We declarenin our mind that most aren't worthy of it. My girlfriend loves me. And she even agrees with a lot of my point with the only critique being my wording isn't friendly enough to make the point heard out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 11:48 AM

If you are asking if I addressed it, yes. Other than that I don't understand the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 11:42 AM

That's my point though. They aren't dying on the hill like they say they will. And like I also said those men aren't even bad fellas. They want a family, want to give the love she seeks and are just overall decent people like anyone else. She just don't want them and while that's valid it's fucked up they'll be picked up just they can be a placeholder and nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 11:41 AM

It's really not. Most men want to give all those good things. A lot don't get the chance. You really think 90 percent of all men are just THAT trash?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 11:39 AM

I even addressed that point. Guess you didn't read. Like I said above, some people really will die on that hill, but most won't. This wasn't even about that type of loneliness, but even so most will settle for at least average. Not saying to go for ugly or bad or extreme. But most will settle for average. I have to say again, some will stick to what they say but most of you won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 11:38 AM
4

I’ve met plenty of super horny women. Got friends who’s girlfriends try to fuck them to death. I think women are more intensely horny than men. But men are more frequently down for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 07:05 PM
3

Here and there probably. I use all terms interchangeably
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:43 PM
1

I really don’t think anything of it. Attributing a deeper meaning to something like that is more weird than not. I’ve always used the term girls even on the elderly. Didn’t think anything of it and no one’s ever said anything to me directly about it up till this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:08 PM
3

I’m not cutting women out of my life because sometimes they suck
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:05 PM
3

I think women want it less because they already get enough of it. Too much by their account
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:04 PM
1

Oooh I’d love to talk about all this. But I only have nine minutes and I’m on 4% battery. I will respond later!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 12:51 PM
2

I like this. This is nice. Thanks for breaking it down.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 12:47 PM
2

I’m asking you because I don’t understand not because I’m trying to weasel out of something. My mentality is the strongest it’s ever been, I have confidence in the idea that I can be loved and be a good partner but that don’t mean I can flag a cute girl down and make a good five second impression.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 12:38 PM
0

Depends even there. Because by down bad I meant people that just literally don’t know what to do for initialization. There’s so many meanings for down bad but I should have been specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 12:31 PM
3

When does that start to work? Got any numbers on that or is that just an eventual reward that nobody can quantify.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 12:30 PM
1

I think it depends on who’s approaching and who is getting approached. But yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 12:29 PM
1

Oh so you agree approaches are all you can do?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 12:11 PM
-2

What other ways to initiate are there? People that are this down bad don’t know enough people for a warm approach. So most likely it’s gonna be a cold one. I don’t know many other ways without being in a community which we have little of these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 12:07 PM
2

Social groups would help but personally I don’t know where to start. I’m lucky to have the relationship I have now because I wouldn’t know where to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 12:06 PM
2

The “decide what they wanna do” it sounds like a nothing answer. That can literally mean anything it’s not precise enough. What would be the alternative?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 12:05 PM
3

I don’t think I’ve ever jerked off to traditionalism. But… okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 12:04 PM
4

I don’t think this type of answer is helpful to anyone trying to find a good conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 12:03 PM
0

Probably. I’ve pondered that idea but the more men stop the more some other men would try. We all want to “eat” sort of.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 11:57 AM
1

The complaint is less about the fact and more about the part where it isn’t well received. And I’m truly gonna have to apologize, but “decide what they wanna do.” Is literally not an answer to the question. The way I see it that raises more questions than answers. I’m neurodivergent that answer literally did not compute with me and I’m sorry for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 11:56 AM
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What should men do then? The way I’ve gotten dates is through me being loud and silly and some women just grabbed me and declared that I was there’s and I just went “YEP”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 11:52 AM

What?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 02:47 PM
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I'm not trying to learn it online. I wanted you to explain yourself and engage with the points I made instead of brushing it off. The thing is I want to believe the side you presented but you've done nothing to defend your points
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 02:21 PM
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I see the logic in your first paragraph and it's sound, just doesn't seem to work for any man Ive ever interacted with in my lifetime and my own experiences. I think the problem is that some women just don't like you even if you are following the advice and men take that as the advice doesn't work maybe? But yeah what you mentioned in the second paragraph is disgusting to me so I guess maybe I was raised different? I was taught to cook, keep a clean space, be firm but respectful, set boundaries …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:40 PM
2

I'm not? I think that's really odd there, but would you like to engage?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:33 PM
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A lot of men report that listening to women not only gets them nowhere but even hinder their chances and that following solid advice from other men gets them results. Why do you think that may be the case? I don't think they're lying and I don't think women are lying but there's clearly a disconnect we should try and find.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:29 PM
2

Are you doing that on purpose? I want to enjoy our conversation but it seems like you want to just… I dunno not listen I guess? I already addressed what you repasted I guess you glossed over it to be cheeky? That's what I'm getting here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:28 PM
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Indont know why you keep bringing up the nice guy point when this conversation isn't even about that? I don't think I'm gonna circle the redlill thing again because at this point you just will believe what you want about me I guess. Women’s advice has not worked for plenty of men and any man with success with women will tell you their advice is trash. Genuinely and truly what is your response to that being plenty of men’s reality? Most of us aren't making this up so what is it? Surely there's so…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:21 PM
3

I don't think the experience means they all are the same way. I don't think i mentioned to you but I think what happens is that men being a certain way causes women to treat them a certain way across the board. I've been through many different things with women so I know what every sensation is like. I think men try doing what women say and the reason they get burned is because most women don't care about most men no matter how romantic and kind they may be. You are not the one and therefore wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:17 PM
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No I wouldn't. Any and all forms of extremism is bad. Doesn't matter who is doing it. Now that that obvious revelation is out the way, mind actually engaging in conversation? I think all the women hating posts are disgusting and stupid. And I think the man hating posts come from a place of lived bad experiences. They aren't lying either and something is deeply wrong with our world.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:10 PM
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I don't even think outside of the “Nice guys” nobody thinks this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:56 PM
5

Then do tell me what listening is, I'm waiting to hear it. You didn't really say much other than “you don't understand!” Then elaborated on nothing and threw out therapy as a fix all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:55 PM
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Level one deflection. Why not engage with his experience and his point? Or does it paint too bad of a picture for you to accept? I don't get why you need empirical data. Do you just think every ones lying until an article is posted about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:54 PM
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I think you're being dismissive of experiences rather than engaging with the point with the hopes of reaching a more positive conclusion. Let's assume he's telling the truth just for a moment, what should he actually do?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:49 PM
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I don't think his experience is something to scoff at and not think about. 50 women is a lot for a single person to experience and the chances of them all being the same way behavior wise is worth analyzing at the very least maybe? Why can so many men report the same behavior? Either women really are like that oraybe so many men are just unlucky?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:47 PM
4

Well what about the point? What are your thoughts?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:44 PM
3

I never said I'm purple. I just use the flair because you must pick one and I don't feel like customizing it because I don't know how and I'm fairly new to this app or engaging without outside of random google searches that get here- Got off topic lmao. But honestly I'm not defending red pill I just think sometimes they have a point. Might be a petty point and might be from weak willed or jaded men who are unbelievably broken or even neurodivergent, like myself. It's a tough game out there. Like…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:39 PM
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Kinda have to. All the individual comments are the same and I'm not retyping it over and over when pasting will do just fine. Why not engage with the points so that we can find a positive conclusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:32 PM
2

Of course it doesn't. But it's not pulled out of thin air either. Something is clearly happening that we are either not willing to see or will never be able to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:29 PM
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I'm not red pill. I don't follow any of that bs but that's not important here. I said nothing about being nice. I said listening to women's advice gets you nowhere. Nothing to do with being nice. The discussion was men should listen and my question is why when it literally doesn't work? And we agree on the bottom point. Bare minimum is not enough for a good amount of women but with how heartbroken a lot of women are I think some men are doing less than the bare minimum and are finding some measu…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:28 PM
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Im probably going to say this a lot today but most men can back me up when I say listening to what women say to the letter does not result in a relationship or any favorable dynamic with them. You find yourself used or abandoned or straight up disrespected every single time. It takes being a shooting star and so far above to the point where you are unattainable that women respect you and I'm sorry but it's true. Wish it wasn't like that but I've dealt with women, worked with women working under …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:20 PM
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Im probably going to say this a lot today but most men can back me up when I say listening to what women say to the letter does not result in a relationship or any favorable dynamic with them. You find yourself used or abandoned or straight up disrespected every single time. It takes being a shooting star and so far above to the point where you are unattainable that women respect you and I'm sorry but it's true. Wish it wasn't like that but I've dealt with women, worked with women working under …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:20 PM
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Im probably going to say this a lot today but most men can back me up when I say listening to what women say to the letter does not result in a relationship or any favorable dynamic with them. You find yourself used or abandoned or straight up disrespected every single time. It takes being a shooting star and so far above to the point where you are unattainable that women respect you and I'm sorry but it's true. Wish it wasn't like that but I've dealt with women, worked with women working under …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:18 PM
-1

I'm sorry I did not understand what you were trying to say here…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:10 PM
1

I think most people who talk about these things generalize. I see every side do this all the time. Out of the ten women I've dated, and the many more I've dealt with outside of relationships, there isn't much difference between all of their behaviors and I don't think that's necessarily a demonizing thing. Most people act the same way. For all our complexities we don't get that much different. I think the main issue with patterns among a gender or whatever group is people act a certain way for c…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:09 PM
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I don't know, when I do everything a woman says she loses respect and leaves. I don't think red pill is the solution but I see why men came to those extreme conclusions. Another thing about red pill is that people don't go around using red pill philosophy publicly. It's supposed to be something they keep quiet about but some of the believers use it loudly and proudly. I think every perspective has a little bit of merit which is why I don't fully subscribe to any one philosophy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:02 PM

Well I talk about this with women fairly often and they are happy to provide details for debate purposes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 10:12 AM

You’re talking about men who struggle. I’m not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 10:06 AM
1

I'm not one to frame things but it sounds like he's just doing whatever you say like a slave. Not saying that's what it is but sounds like.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 08:40 PM
1

Honestly it's also my experience that women don't want what they tell you to do either anyways. It's my experience that doing everything they ask is actually a fast way to lose their respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 08:37 PM
0

This is just my experience. They don't tend to think about the reaction to their actions MOSTLY. Obviously some do and some don't and whatnot but this is just my experience I don't know what else to say there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 08:30 PM
1

Maybe I'm the odd case but I feel like there's so many guys out there that if a woman walked up and demanded him to fit certain molds and she would be there while he works to get there, a lot of men would just… do it? You know?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 08:29 PM
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Every example I had wasn't in one place. All over. I think the reason why people behave in this way is because people don't really have the need to “behave” unless someone's presence and personality commands respect in a way that makes them happy to go all out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 08:27 PM
-2

Not really mad. If I wasn't dating I'd probably be upset but truly this is just me making observation. Dunno what else to tell you. Also I said they are uncaring until you prove yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:01 PM
-2

I think you're definitely asking the wrong question here. I'm not even being snarky but did you really read the last reply?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 06:27 PM
-2

Well most definitely don't care about men until those men prove themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 06:19 PM
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I'd say there's a middle ground you're missing. I think that women don't mostly have a level 2. Every action has a reaction. They stop at every action only has the intent behind it and nothing more can ever come up and then are blindsided by the what comes next. An extreme example is I hit a man. What happens next? Not nothing. Violence happens next so let me not hit a man so I can avoid violence. They tend not to have that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 06:02 PM
-5

Nope. Not evil. I think they just do whatever and if it hurts people they don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 05:38 PM
0

While I don't completely disagree. I feel like something's missing in that entire exchange. Do you think maybe humans are never going to find out what that missing thing is? I think in all these discussions we are just Barely missing something that would change all of our minds? Don’t you think it's there?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 05:36 PM
1

I guess the guys who struggle are just that unlucky then?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 05:33 PM
-1

I think there's a caveat to that. If you're a man of intent who is competent and attractive enough. You can have all the intent in the world with no power to make use of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 05:31 PM
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Oh I never encountered the acronym thanks! I do know the term I just didn't understand behind the acronym.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 05:30 PM
0

I'm new to that term. What's it mean the afbb
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 05:27 PM
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Your only frame of reference of me is anonymous forum posts. It's weird that you have strong personality assumptions of me when you have no insight into my actual character.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 05:00 PM
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You know what's funny? I actually managed to sleep with her because of what I was doing at the time. So even if it was a rejection she still ended up doing shit with a guy she rejected. All because I had something she wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:57 PM
1

Oooh I like your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:55 PM
1

What? I just said its in men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:54 PM
1

Hmm why is that? Can't believe in anything without an article saying so? I guess we'll never know what color the sky is without an article which in a roundabout sense is also an anecdote as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:52 PM
1

Well this is based on things I've seen. So you can believe it and choose to engage or just not. Doesn't really matter but it would be pretty nifty if you had something to add to the conversation you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:46 PM
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Because men usually do things with a specific intent or goal in mind from the get go. Women all the time talk about vibing things out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:41 PM
-10

My examples of that were in the post. Like clubbing. They think they're just gonna “vibe” but end up doing something they may regret.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:40 PM
-1

Yes men do it to but it's definitely more shown in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:38 PM
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I have high functioning autism and adhd so yeah I kinda take things super literal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:37 PM
1

What does that mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:37 PM
-1

I mean probably? I'm open to seeing where personalities go but when I saw how she acts that maybe became a no.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:33 PM
-1

What's that? I don't know most of these acronyms I'm new to these discussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:30 PM
-2

Of course. Any behavior conceivable can happen on both sides. Some sides it's more prevalent than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:29 PM
1

We were in a circle talking about dating on the campus and she said she'd never date a dude from this school
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:26 PM
-3

Damn. I guess I should have actually used ai if I'm gonna be accused anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:20 PM
-19

Cutting the bs to be honest. Instead of saying your “just” doing this or that why not admit the hidden layers behind actions?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:18 PM
-1

Thanks commissioner. It was easy really.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:14 PM
1

I think given that it's a community there's gonna be frequented users
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:11 PM
1

I did not say or imply that. I was advocating for a stronger system. Dunno how you and a few others came to the opposite conclusion
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 09:58 PM
1

Again to me it sounds like they have baggage but it could mean they were just treated poorly
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 09:57 PM
0

The only bad part I can agree of it is the fact that implies you’ve been through a lot of bullshit and might have unresolved feelings about it. That’s it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 09:49 PM
-1

Thank you. Literally what I’ve been saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 09:36 PM
1

I have to warn you. Only idiots talk of the manosphere out loud. Hell even some of the “teachers” there tell them not to preach the rhetoric. Simply believe it in your mind and use that knowledge to navigate. The loud ones must be neurodivergent and literally have a mental urge to spew what they believe. If you were to follow the rp rules you’d never speak of it. You’d just use the ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 07:29 PM
1

That’s not at all what I’m saying. I think you know that as the title even says it needs a rework. It needs to be stronger. I was advocating for stronger seatbelts and you and a few women took that as “get rid of them” somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 07:26 PM
1

But again if the man is that good at manipulation the entire rule is useless. What you’d be reading in the hypothetical is a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 07:26 PM
1

Good. I’m glad you have confidence in your capabilities and avoid bad relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 07:22 PM
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Why is it impossible for that to be just a true statement? Okay that was extreme but I’ve seen that be listed as a flag and I’m just like… but it’s true sometimes? I guess that’s why I’ll never say that. Does that mean I’m automatically safe now that I realize women don’t like to hear that and decided against saying it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 07:21 PM
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Didn’t say you should. I think you’re taking what I’m talking about in a completely wrong direction and I can’t tell if you are doing it on purpose or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 07:19 PM
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I’m probably one of the few people that actually give props to women more often than not but believe what you wish. I won’t say women exactly love criminals but my father his friends are literally gang members of significant status within said gang. Believe not or don’t I’m too autistic to lie on an anonymous Reddit post. They have a lot of women. These women would rather date these trainwreck men than some bozo dork. Sorry. It’s my experience that’s what I’ve seen I wish it wasn’t like that tru…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 06:02 PM
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Or like I said a bad actor can just wait the ninety days. If you are able to eat elsewhere you can wait for the new restaurant to open and not starve while waiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 05:58 PM
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I have high functioning autism. I’ve seen cases that prove both sides. Some people do things that you can read their behavior months in advance. Other people it’s way trickier than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 05:56 PM
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Exactly. No trick will ever work on someone skilled enough to navigate. Which is why you’d need discernment skills rather than tests that don’t work.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 05:55 PM
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Not ignore but see flaws for what they are. Flaws. If I guy leaves a shirt in the bathroom after a shower he isn’t immediately a slob, he made a mistake. You might be thinking of extreme examples I’m just talking about little stuff. As for the criminal record thing I know criminals. They do better with women than most guys ever will. Not just bad women either I mean rich high functioning women with lives ahead of them dealing with literal gang members for the thrill.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 05:54 PM

I still have a long ways to go. Different spaces make it easier. And the fact I’m loud rambunctious and not boring is the main thing that carry me. Most of the men I hang with try to be hard bodied and stoic I’m cheerful and chipper and want to drag you along for fun. The female attention I get for that is insane and men say “they don’t like goofball men” they absolutely do. I would not have made it without being one. It’s hard though. I imagine a lot of dudes in my position might struggle more …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 05:50 PM
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Abusers absolutely can maneuver around them. That’s how women end up in bad relationships and situations. At least the women who tell me that do. Flaws that are hidden are still flaws to worry about. Open flaws at least you can understand and trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 05:46 PM

Not everyone who struggles follows manosphere beliefs. I have high functioning autism I literally couldn’t tell when girls liked me it took some of them grabbing my hand and straight up dragging me into a relationship to get the hint. Some people are like that, literally just unaware. It took until I was 25 to really start basic understanding of dating dynamics. It was a struggle. It would be way easier if I was blessed enough to not struggle with human interaction. I forced myself to be compete…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 05:38 PM

Oh most definitely. I do think there’s a problem on both ends when it comes to that though. People underplay that it is work that some people need guidance or a deep learning experience on. Some guys literally do not understand how it works. Of course they are complaining. Most of them very well may die before even knowing what holding someone’s hand is like. They need help not further ridicule.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:50 PM

Eh. I go out frequently and meet women. It takes time reputation and community to be in the right place at the right time to find the right woman that’s single and open to hanging with you at which point you make the offer to date and even then most want you to front the bill. Not saying I’ve never met one that hasn’t but it’s definitely not surrounding some of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:43 PM

While I do agree mostly I do think you are wildly underestimating how difficult it can be to you don’t find what you speak of on every corner.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:39 PM
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I mean kind of? She told me to be less clingy and I nearly ghosted until she came back full force. Then I gave her what she can handle and I hate to say it but she’s kinder to me now.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 10:00 PM
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So? I’m short. She’s not ugly in the face she literally doesn’t take care of herself in any capacity. But I loved her. She was my friend until she cheated.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:43 PM
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I won’t explain what actually happened again. You just can’t read or something or I’m really bad at explaining. Either way, good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:40 PM
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What? I had a friend who asked me out. We dated a few years until she revealed she cheated on me because she wanted to feel useful sexually to people. I didn’t use her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:32 PM
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We were friends to in a relationship. Five years. Genuinely enjoyed her company. She cheated.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:23 PM
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I have. And she cheated. Ugly women aren’t automatically virtuous like most of the arguments here tend to claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 07:30 PM
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Being clingy and super duper in love and just all over her like every woman I’ve been with asks for but also doesn’t like once they get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 06:02 PM
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Every time I’ve done everything a woman asks of me, she loses respect and it’s not even funny how in my recent relationships turning off the people pleaser act and doing my own thing makes them want me more. I wish it wasn’t that way but literally it is. I don’t know what to say but in my current relationship I see it now and I can’t help but realize there’s no way It works that way for men if this dynamic keeps happening. Give them everything = they don’t respect you Too eager? Desperate. If yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 05:56 PM
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Sorry for the late reply I’m at work. But I limit my attention to her now and she’s more interested and initiative than ever. She’s constantly trying to please me so I can go back to being lovesick for her and I give her about 75% of it, but she really wants the final 25. It eats at her. She constantly reminds me she loves me and she’s sorry taking the love I did have for her for granted. As sorry as I’m sure she thinks she is, I can never go back to how I was. Why? Because she’d also go back to…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 05:53 PM
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I think there’s more to it than that. Most men bring this topic up because the things you listed most men have tried at least a few times and it just doesn’t work.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 05:44 PM
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I’m saying once they level up by whatever metric they needed do the people who act out in resent deserve validation for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:35 PM
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Honestly if we love each other, availability should not be the issue. If I gotta argue that I’d rather be the other extreme and have her beg for me and I treat her as best I can. Anything else or less would be hurtful towards me. And women tend to not care about men’s feelings so you just gotta do what works for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:32 PM
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Should the resent be understood or does it have no place.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:26 PM
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I think this is a need vs want thing. When my current girlfriend wanted me to be less available for her I started ignoring her and now she begs for me. I wish I could go back but clearly I can’t go back to being a lovesick puppy and I don’t want to be this way either but she responds better that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:25 PM
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The only point I disagree with is flakiness. A good amount of women respond well to a charming person who is very fleeting but pleasant to be around. If she enjoys you but you limit how much she gets at least in my experience it never backfires unless you overdo it. And women tend to hate over availability in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:52 PM
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Are you real? Because I’ve never said that. I said healthy boundaries with taken people. How is that a never interact statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 07:47 AM
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Never implied that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 07:46 AM
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Where did you get that idea?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 07:46 AM
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That doesn’t sound like the right question to ask. Like I said above trust doesn’t give you any tangible safety regardless of you grant it or not. People change, lie and fail. What actually protects you in a relationship? I’d say consistency, boundaries and behavior over time. Not just the feeling of trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 07:45 AM
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That's most of what I run into sadly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 11:50 PM
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I don't disagree with you. I just think people take the healthy version of what you saying to a toxic degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 11:04 PM
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Never said that. Never meant it or implied or thought like that. I just keep respectable distance from taken people!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 08:40 PM
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Well me personally its respectful. I just don't interact with taken people with such deep interest. Why would I? It's rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 06:55 PM

My only critique is your hate for the complaints. You seem to frequent forums that have nothing but those complaints. I don't think you'll escape them that way. Other than that I think this is the extreme side of the argument. Some men this really is the solution and others want true depth.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 06:48 PM
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But anyways I don't think I've said anything to the extreme you're mentioning. I do believe men and women are both capable of the horrible behavior you speak of but here in this post that ain't me. That being said, I do think there is a certain amount of distance an individual should put between themselves and opposite gendered friends out of respect for their relationship. I don't talk to my brothers girlfriend without him present and when he's not around we both have very little to say to each…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 06:38 PM
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I didn't think of it like that. Didn't think I'd have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 06:23 PM
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Who said that? I didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 05:51 PM
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There's a healthy version of what I'm saying and an unhealthy version of what you are saying. I'll reply fully soon. Can't yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 05:37 PM
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I never said my entire life surrounds it I said I prefer a relationship over not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 05:03 PM
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At least 80% and that's me giving some leeway simply because actually saying 100% sounds insane even to me because I am quite attached
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 04:47 PM
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The price you pay is one you should have accepted long before you even got in a relationship. We know the costs
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 04:46 PM
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Trust is the aftereffect of an already good relationship I'd say. Trust isn't something you hand out. Even if it was trust alone isn't indication of the other persons good intent. What I mean by that is I can hand you a gun and turn around and trust you not to shoot me, does that mean you wouldn't? No. Trust comes from something and really the only problem I have here is that trust seems to be used as an answer which I find strange because the idea of trust comes after proven goodness not becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 04:45 PM
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Pieces but why
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 04:42 PM
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My best friend in the whole world I wouldn't spend as much time with him as I would with a lover.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 04:41 PM
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All my guy friends if they bring a girlfriend around I am very appropriate and hardly talk unless dialogue exchange is completely necessary or I have the answer to her question that no one else does. Even my brothers girl who lives with us. I don't talk to her besides minor exchanges unless he's in the room. There's no need for me to be hee hee ha ha Hoo Hoo friends. What would that do for us? I don't know it just doesn't seem right by any measure because there's nothing I can provide or give he…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 04:38 PM
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In a relationship currently yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 02:50 PM
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My definition of peace would involve my lover, personally I dunno just the way I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 02:26 PM
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I don't think trusting you would be the issue in this case. But I think that type of worry isn't necessarily insecure either it's a very realistic and very prevalent concern that plagues more relationships than not. I feel like insecure is used rather loosely and without nuance or consideration.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 02:23 PM
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As long as he's as caring back.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 02:22 PM
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Like jealousy over attention. There's more than one type of jealousy in my opinion so I guess healthy jealousy wouldn't be bad but if it's like crazy jealousy I would then start to worry. Because if my girlfriend is getting a ton of male attention if be very observant. Wouldn't say much but it would be something to think about.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 02:13 PM
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I think you don't need permission from anyone to do anything. However I do think if you wanna do whatever it shouldn't disrespect the relationship Either which is where this topic tends to pop up from.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 02:11 PM
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Well yeah there's nothing wrong with that. I guess I'm used to seeing the toxic side of this because you seem reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 02:10 PM
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I think you have a solid head on your shoulders. You're a good person overall. I agree with you and I think the guilt you feel may be irrational but it's also what makes you more trustworthy than most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 02:09 PM
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When I say weigh what I mean is if I wanna go fishing and she wants to go to the movies I wouldn't say “shit I guess we have to consider if we even want to be with each other now…” I could go fishing and she can go see the movie or we schedule it out or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 02:06 PM
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I agree with you entirely here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 02:04 PM
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I guess what we all are ever concerned about is the framing. I have no issue with what you said but the wording does make me raise an eyebrow but like I said the contents of what you said is great but wording makes me have alarms I wouldn't normally say unless it's anonymous like on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 02:04 PM
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Why do people assume their lives stop just because of a committed relationship? You said you want your own life too, a relationship doesn't stop your life or I guess I haven't seen that side of it yet? I'm glad you found a fit I think I'm confused on what is outside of the relationship that's so appealing that can't be attained within it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 02:00 PM
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I'm on mobile how do you reply to certain lines like that? Is that pc only? Anyways I'll try and reply properly. I don't think any of my hobbies I would have to sacrifice just because I'm involved with someone. If we both wanna do different things we can go do those things it's not as black or white as that. We don't have to weigh our relationship with every small decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 01:57 PM
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I guess that's the point of the topic. I really don't see what you lose. I drowned in freedom. Lived my life in freedom. It's not all that amazing and I'd prefer sharing my time with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 01:54 PM
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I guess I can't speak on that. For me talking to my loved ones gives me strength not sap it. But it also depends on what that talking entails. Mostly for us it's just joking and fun. But if it's heavy shit all day all the time I guess it's easy to want to run away? Idk
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 01:53 PM
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Interesting. Genuinely why couldnt him or any hypothetical man you are with go to the bar with you? What changes of he went and why do you need to go without your hypothetical partner? There's definitely a healthy amount of alone time but certain things like that give me pause. Male friends are another thing but it's more touchy. I have to be careful when talking about that but I will try… doesn't that kind of leave the door open in a potentially bad way you'd rather not risk? I dunno, seems odd…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 01:52 PM
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I enjoyed this post of yours. The last two were great. I do think the guy in the tik tok is a very extreme example of the type of man you mean but yeah nothing I disagree with to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 11:55 PM
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Most of my hobbies are introverted in nature that's why I'm going out more to add more to myself. Honestly I'm willing to go anywhere if it means solving the issue in one way or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 11:16 PM
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I do work. I'm 26 Iive in an area where there is plenty to do I just don't know where to start. I don't have any friends that life near me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 08:35 PM
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I genuinely think you're trolling or something. Unless you have legit reasons I just cannot see that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 08:27 PM
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Mostly just bars. I'm not sure of many other places to even try.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 06:55 PM
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I don't know. Despite my accomplishments I still feel the call to finding a lover. I said elsewhere that no matter what hypothetical threshold of success I could reach I'd always find the idea of a girlfriend to be just as good if not better than all that. Also the downplay actually makes me more curious. This thing that is of no consequence and isn't special eludes me and those same people who tell me not to seek it are never without one. Why? Why not leave your lover if love is so overrated?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 06:44 PM
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Your brain must be wired differently man. Because most would not agree with that. I can't sleep with my best friend. I can't have a romantic evening with my brother or sisters. I can't hold my homies hand while enjoying the silent comfort of another soul choosing me. In fact most relationships take a back seat to romantic ones no matter how much you love them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 06:40 PM
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What I do think you are saying is what everyone usually says and that's to enjoy life alone first and to that I say… well duh? I'm not on suicide watch for not having a girlfriend but equally I think saying that I would prefer my life with romance in it to not having it is also fair. I'm not gonna die single if I can help it. Sorry but just because you can enjoy life single doesn't mean you just should be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 06:35 PM
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I'm very sorry but it doesn't help me much there. I think I might have an idea to what you might be saying but I'm pretty bad at deciphering that. I'd rather you just tell me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 06:32 PM
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I don't really need the freedom you speak of. I want a relationship and no hypothetical measure of success will ever get me to stop thinking. “This is cool but having a genuine lover would be better.”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:46 PM
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What percentage of men do you think fit that bill? It isn't just red pill or incels that struggle in this department.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:39 PM
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Well I'm stuck analyzing to be honest. I'm mainly being told by the player men in my family to “go get em” and I literally do not understand what that means so I'm just sitting there trying to understand it. I'll admit I'm used to women just “adopting” me into relationships they eventually get bored of me being like a lovesick puppy for them and they move on. Now I'm trying to be the approached and do far I'm not sure how to even approach a woman because I understand most of them don't wanna tal…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 02:27 PM

The ways are in the post. I don't know what else I can do to help because my shift starts in seven minutes I can't relist what's already explained above us sorry man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 02:25 PM

I guess as the post says.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 02:22 PM

How would you prefer it then? Genuinely curious
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 02:22 PM

In dating
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 02:20 PM

I was really using my own experience as the metric. I'm not a stats and charts kind of debate guy. I'm not a fan of lies either, but scrambling to science our way around philosophical discussion seems kind of useless? I dunno I think people talking to each other with good faith in mind can lead to a much better conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 02:19 PM
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People who say it doesn't mean much are the most sexually active people I met. I always ask then why not go monk mode and leave all that useless sex behind? It's because you don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 02:16 PM
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A lot of people I run into downplay how great relationships are, mainly by pointing out that bad ones exist. I personally think relationships are the best human experience has to offer. Hell even the bad can be a more riveting experience than being alone completely but that's probably a toxic part of my mind saying that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 02:07 PM
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How is it ragebait? I genuinely don't see how it could be.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:58 PM
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I know I'm not the best writer but I thought it was pretty clear or at least clear enough to understand. I'm sorry 😞
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:57 PM
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I think women understand socialization better because they will always get practice in it. Even when they don't want to their social muscles are constantly being worked out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:52 PM
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I actually agree with your take on this for the most part. I'm always told to just be confident by the players of my family. I always ask why because you can be confident in bullshit. That won't make the bullshit work. Every woman I've been with picked me themselves and declared that I was theirs. I didn't use any lines or confidence I was my silly self and I was plucked from the crowd. There's also so many different kinds of confidence. I'm confident in the idea that I am lovable. I'm confident…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:51 PM
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I think both of those are silly extremes to go to. There is something in the middle we refuse to see. What is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:43 PM
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Sorry what?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 07:59 AM
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I’ve had peace after realizing I do have a chance after my most recent relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 10:08 PM
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I hate that one too. Plenty of examples of the opposite working.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 09:35 PM
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I do believe being upset with your circumstances are also okay and valid. I don’t like being single and the idea I may have to leave my current partner brings me unease.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 09:32 PM
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I think the belief everything can be solved gives us hope that we can change our doomed existences. Without the belief their problems can be solved I’m sure it can get ugly fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 07:25 PM
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One of the best and honest replies
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 07:21 PM
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That’s kinda what I’m asking about what is the right
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 05:43 PM
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That’s not at all what I said and you know that but I’ll engage anyways. I said can the advice be more detailed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 04:42 PM
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? They are saying to do that but they aren’t being specific about what to work on.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:33 PM
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I’m not scared of approaches. I just generally don’t have any business talking to the women I want to approach. I like all types of women but especially introverted probably nerdy women that ironically hate cold approaches the most and no matter how similar your interests are they don’t wanna talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:31 PM
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Usually the people I know like family and close friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:30 PM
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This is very helpful. I just have bad experience even with women that share interests. I did do a cold approach to a girl that had a Star Wars backpack and asked her questions. She gave me a look that screamed “did you really think talking to me about something I like would give you a free pass to engage?” From that point I lost all confidence and courage.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:29 PM
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Thank you. This comment perfectly explains the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:27 PM
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That’s a step better than what I usually hear from the people I know. But it’s still ambiguous a bit for me. What exactly are the practical steps needed to take this beast I face down?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:25 PM
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Yeah but there’s no info about there. What is it? What part is missing and not being elaborated on?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:24 PM
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Me personally I don’t care. If you did anything wild in your past it doesn’t bother me as long as it doesn’t bring baggage to whatever we got going on at the time. If you genuinely can handle what you’ve done in the past and no crazy ex comes knocking or std’s anything like that we cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 12:17 PM

Your first idea is closer to what I mean. I’m not saying exactly and literally there’s no bad actors but what I’m tying to say is it’s mostly neutral. Most people when they act scummy only do so as a means to preserve some level of peace of mind. Like ghosting. I doubt most ghosters do it because it’s genuinely fun to them. I think they do it simply to escape without explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 06:36 PM

And women brag about using men for money. And social status and security. It’s all pretty cold or as cold as can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 04:45 PM

My main point is everyone is cold to someone they don’t see as tall enough. Most people dont worry about the ants they step on as they walk. You might worry about stepping on a puppy so you say you’re sorry and move on but a person? An equal? Yeah you’re gonna have way more empathy for someone that is more grand on the scale. That’s my idea there. In dating it’s very cold and brutal until two people agree they are worth the empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 04:44 PM

That’s not what I was saying. What I was saying is people who do that shit don’t even register the effect it his on the people it’s done to. The only ghosting I ever did was once with an exceptionally unattractive person that I couldn’t bare telling to go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 04:34 PM

That’s not what I was saying or the point of the post. What I’m saying is the people doing those actions do not see them as bad. They see them as just serving themselves and the people hurt by it don’t bleep on the radar.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 04:33 PM
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But you also said being a provider isn’t enough. So being a provider isn’t enough but it’s also required? Sounds like it’s good enough if both those statements are true.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 02:15 PM
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Honestly for the first question I think women are almost always settling. I have not met a woman that didn’t have the “top guy” (by whatever metric he did to be that top guy cuz it varies) use her for everything and dump her and she forever thinks and feels and navigates relationships based on that one guy. So yeah, mostly settling. If she’s happy with him and enjoys sex with him I guess it depends on that man. I know I would be happy with that but if I knew that wasn’t the peak of her treatment…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 01:51 PM
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To be fair I think women suffer from very different sides of the same coin. Attention like that would never be in short supply for a woman. Men get NO attention until they get that shit out the mud! 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 01:37 PM

Doesn’t make them a good choice either. And the reason why women on these discussions keep saying to go for the ugly girl is because they assume she’s a good pick or virtuous due to unfortunate appearance. When in reality she can be just as cruel and as bad an option as any.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 08:29 PM

Honestly even those girls won’t do you if you ain’t bout something bigger. I got cheated on by the ugly girl so many times because she wanted to feel useful to a hot guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:43 PM
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What’s the difference between pursuit and desperation? Is it a subtle thing or something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 02:22 PM
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Yes but I think that’s also why women experience a lot of grief in the market. Only a few men ascend and after they do they see both sides of the fence. Some decide to be fair and good about it but most of those men play the field infinitely because they know they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 02:21 PM
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The part where you were saying the desperate men were pathetic but at the same time I feel like if women have that much access to dick isn’t it easy to point the finger at those who aren’t that well versed in sexuality? I’m genuinely asking cuz I don’t understand
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 02:18 PM
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I feel like this is an ivory tower kind of situation. Do you think so? Would you mind talking about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 02:12 PM
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From my personal experience they do just only with specific men. Maybe that’s just my story and the people I’ve seen and noticed but yeah. I like to think no one’s lying when it comes to these topics because I do believe they saw what they saw. Just like im sure you’ve seen the exact opposite of what I saw. Somehow we are all correct and telling the truth but we aren’t seeing the full picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 02:09 PM

I think the problem he has with the statement is that there should be a threshold of attractiveness you reach after improvement to get a gf. You saying it’s endless is like saying no amount of improvement will make you attractive. And I agree kinda. What number of improvement points is needed for a partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 01:57 PM
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I agree. I wasn’t aware men thought that women were that horny though. But I will say the same thing happens with impressive men towards average women. When men are impressive women tend to lose themselves trying to get at that guy. I think this human nature rather than men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 01:38 PM
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That’s a gross way for men to be. I think the female orgasm is more important especially if you as a guy want more sex lol. Why not satisfy your partner so they give you more? Sounds like the ultimate win win scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:39 AM
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Well I only started pretty recently so yeah I was pretty bad at sex. Got to a passable level recently. Not sure why the sarcasm but I love that for you 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:51 AM
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Makes sense. But you practiced a lot which probably helped a ton.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:53 AM
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I agree. The woman should come first. I think that’s the fairest point no matter how you slice it. If you want more sex you better please her lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:52 AM
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I don’t think I blamed women but sorry I didn’t articulate it that way. I don’t know shit so maybe I made a mistake there lol. But I always thought maybe the amount of partners I find most of my fwbs have that they burn out their sexual curiosity and become numb to it all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:51 AM
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Woah no need to curse at each other! I didn’t realize there were sex books. No joke I never pick up a book tailored to sex but now that I think about it I guess there’s no reason they wouldn’t exist. I’d check them out. Got any recommendations?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:49 AM
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That’s really frustrating I’m sure. I can’t imagine why these guys are doing that tbh I wouldn’t be able to be okay with my partner being unsatisfied. Actually it doesn’t even make sense
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:47 AM
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Honestly I think casual sex is only positive for men. Unless that man is super good at making a woman orgasm I don’t think it will be all that fun for her sadly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:45 AM
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Yeah I think the fact that you taught him and he was willing to learn is exactly how he was better. It’s actually baffling me how many men (according to the replies) don’t want to learn and don’t care to. How are women choosing these men? I’m not asking that to be an asshole I’m seriously wondering how.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:44 AM
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I did. That’s why i was trying to learn from her. She was reluctant to teach because she said she hated teaching a virgin how to fuck. Which is why I’m glad my current partner enjoys telling me how she likes it so I can help and I’ve been getting better each session. I think most women don’t like being the person who teaches a man through giving him experience or feedback. They’d rather you just know but my question is how would any novice man learn if most don’t want to teach?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:42 AM
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Do women not tell men what they want during sex or try to tell their partners what they need and how to get there? I’m genuinely curious because in my case women don’t tend to tell you just have to find out and hope you are right. I genuinely try to learn and I actually hate to do it wrong because it’s just very icky
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:40 AM
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Well like I said she never told me anything and I was going off pure instinct and I was scared not gonna lie. I’m still to this day anxious when I have sex until I’m like in the middle of it. I wasn’t being selfish. You don’t know my dynamic (partly because I didn’t say enough) but I was shy and constantly asking questions and she was supportive and patient. The only thing I would say was problematic is she’d only tell me afterwards what parts I did she didn’t like so it was hard to learn until …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:38 AM
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I think it’s also a lack of communication that causes it. My current fwb actually tells me little by little what she likes which helps. Actually she tells me what she hates so I know not to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:35 AM

It's a very touchy subject for men and women I would say. Because for men we have to make approaches. We have to try, we kind of have no choice if we want to make connections with women. However, a lot of times in my experience approaches are met with various levels of rejection. I'll admit in the past I was TRASH at approaches. But the few times my 18-20 year old self made those approaches it was usually met with a certain look that told me “Ew what the fuck does this guy want?” energy. Sometim…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 05:43 PM
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Yeah people who say that (mostly women) have no idea what the fuck they're talking about 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 05:30 PM
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A man should never “find out” someone is planning to leave. Just leave. My sister is still with their toxic lover and she always talks about leaving. Just do it. Have him come home one day and see that you completely left and he has no way to find you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 05:29 PM
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