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| 1 | Healthy Gamer gives a good take on Incels in response to female comedian nonsense speech.I tend to agree with you. The reality is that women are strong and independent, men need protection. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/08/25 12:03 PM |
| 9 | No Alimony/ No Child SupportCount your lucky stars. This is a very rare story. Enjoy this time and being able to raise your kids. Also, be on your toes, it's never really over until the kids are 18 and dirty tricks are pulled by exes, family court judges and both attorneys all the time. Their only goal is to steal as much wealth away from you and your children to enrich themselves as possible and there are zero checks and balance in the family court system. Do not let your guard down, EVER! | /r/Divorce_Men | 24/06/25 04:39 AM |
| 6 | I’m being financially and emotionally drained by this divorce — and she’s dodging everythingYou are absolutely not alone and unfortunately, you'll be up against her, her attorney, a family court judge and YOUR attorney along with a gynocentric system and society that only sees you for an ATM machine. All of the players in this little game you've been dragged into will happily use her to extract as much wealth and generational away from you and your kids as possible to enrich themselves. Dragging it out, vague court orders (they want you to keep coming back to "clarify", modify, or figh… | /r/Divorce_Men | 24/06/25 04:35 AM |
| 2 | Once married, never again."I just did it to make her happy" I believe this is the reason for all or most men in serious relationships, and many more things are done just to make/keep them happy so there's peace in the immediate future. Of course, the end always turns out the same. | /r/Divorce_Men | 24/06/25 04:15 AM |
| 2 | Once married, never again.True, but also, the data is mostly buried deep not to be found. Any statistics or data that prevents women/mother/wives in a negative light is tucked away or the studies will be present skewed results to make females look good and males look like the bad people. We are living in a gynocentric society that has allowed for no accountability for their actions. It's far too dangerous for men to become fathers, unfortunately. Good luck finding current, accurate marriage and divorce statistics or any … | /r/Divorce_Men | 24/06/25 04:13 AM |
| 11 | Once married, never again.The one you marry will not be the same person in 10 years, guaranteed. The only winning move is not to play. At least until family court laws are changed and there's transparency in the system that targets men/fathers. It's just too risky and the road is littered with fathers who were 'extremely careful' when they chose a life partner, only to find themselves broke, broken and indentured while being turned into 2 weekend per month visitors to their children. | /r/Divorce_Men | 15/06/25 02:10 PM |
| 1 | I can’t live like thisHold on a second, here. There are guidelines and I'm sure if you do some digging you can find a guideline chart from the state's official website. Keep in mind that it's nothing but a money grab. If you're child isn't with you 50% of the time (they should be). DO NOT talk to her lawyer without one yourself. The support system is based on YOUR income, so the more you make, the more you give her. Again, you should have your child half the time so she has a chance to work to handle her financial ob… | /r/Divorce_Men | 24/02/25 01:44 AM |
| 16 | Listen you fucks!I'll add; work on some form of activism to put an end the family court system incentivizing, encouraging and enabling this behavior. You can't change what she did and that's on her, but our legal system should NOT ensure she profits off it while traumatizing children in the process. Sometimes activism will give you some sense of control when, as we know, the family court system and all of the players push you through the system and have their way with you. Doing something to help ensure what's h… | /r/Divorce_Men | 24/02/25 01:23 AM |
| 18 | How to reduce alimonyIt's hard to believe there is still such a thing as permanent alimony. Shouldn't alimony be rehabilitative? How does this continue to go on and on? How can our society be okay with our courts incentivizing a person to be subsidized by their ex-spouse? It completely infantilizes women. The trauma caused by our family court system to children and fathers is immeasurable and divorce seems to be the biggest wealth transfer ever. Even more so than what the baby boomer generation is passing along to t… | /r/Divorce_Men | 24/02/25 01:09 AM |
| -2 | You'd think Donald Trump, Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Ye, and other billionaires would make reforming the feminist divorce court system a top political priority....You may want to learn a bit about Feminist Jurisprudence and much more about what has happened. You are in a trapped narrative and it's not helping anyone or future generations. Feminism is equal to Chauvinism. You want to be an Egalitarian. I'm hoping you know the word without having to look it up. | /r/Divorce_Men | 15/02/25 04:40 PM |
| 5 | You'd think Donald Trump, Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Ye, and other billionaires would make reforming the feminist divorce court system a top political priority....You'd think. Then, we have judicial immunity where judges are free to "rule" how they please with no review (unless you start ~$50k appeal process), no written reason why, no consequences, etc.. Combine that with the fact that they're attorney co-worker friends are all in on the scam to extract as much wealth and generational wealth from fathers and future generations as possible, state bar associations (all friends), lobby groups made up of ...attorneys and ex judges, along with the domestic vi… | /r/Divorce_Men | 15/02/25 04:37 PM |
| 2 | Got access to her WhatsAppAND, if they live in TX or NC, I believe the person she's having an affair with can be sued for Alienation of Affection if proved his wife was having an affair. Of coursed "proof", especially in family court, means actual pictures coupled with her spending marital funds. | /r/Divorce_Men | 19/01/25 04:28 PM |
| 3 | My wife is a lawyer. A badass one. How to get a divorce without being killed?This is important for men/fathers to know. Women who initiate divorce (around 80% of the time) plan the divorce for 6 months to a year. They have their single mommy friend legal team, have already talked to a attorney to find out exactly what to do. Thank you for sharing your story. I hope you continue to do so as future generations need to know what will happen to them when the divorce comes. | /r/Divorce_Men | 25/11/24 02:30 PM |
| 12 | Debunking "feminists help men too" lieThere's no place you will see the effects of Feminism than in family court. Especially today. It's turned divorce into the new, most successful business model for everyone except fathers...at the expense of fathers. For generations now children have been turned into 2 weekend visitors per month to their fathers. It's an epidemic. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/11/24 04:37 AM |
| 10 | Debunking "feminists help men too" lieWhat a wonderfully horrific source. Thanks for the efforts. It's stunning. Ask anyone "What would need to happen to end the Patriarchy?" or "What does the end of Patriarchy look like?" Report back here the answers. It will be revealing. Promise. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/11/24 04:32 AM |
| 2 | “Your body my choice”I have looked everywhere and cannot find any instances of this being said. If it is being said, which I doubt, it's certainly not to the degree that it's being made out to be. As a matter of fact, we're only being told it's being said. My hunch is that this is typical Democrat/Feminist propaganda. Has anyone seen the SM post about divorcing their husbands, even deleting them? We will see "the M word" used more than ever now and a ramped-up effort to rile up the base so they can 'fight back". Kno… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/11/24 05:41 PM |
| 1 | Wellness check: how're you coping with the fallout?In the US there's what's known as the divorce to Conservative pipeline. The Republicans ran on few issues to keep it simple, so it was definitely not front and center. That doesn't mean it's not real or it was even needed to be used as an issue. The reason there are so many males, especially young males, that are even open to listen to what Republicans say in the first place is because of my comment above. They migrate to conservative circles that "embrace family", responsibility, etc.. They fin… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/11/24 08:03 PM |
| 3 | Wellness check: how're you coping with the fallout?Don't forget young men witnessing what happened to other male friends and family members in divorce. Losing children, false accusations and a court system that made them the mark in a scheme to shake them down and destroy them financially, emotionally, forcing them to subsidize the state and ex-spouses for the pleasure of destroying them and their family. The single mommy badge of honor and kids, generations now, growing up with meaningful relationships with fathers is an epidemic. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/11/24 04:17 AM |
| 2 | Wellness check: how're you coping with the fallout?Very well said. True words of wisdom gained through unfortunate experience. But you have a freedom that most men don't. The baby trap is close to ending. Many men are experiencing a form of enslavement, used as a worker bee, scared to speak out, scared of the divorce because they know what will happen to them. Most would never admit that they traded their precious time a freedom for ill treatment and a fearful, abusive ever after. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/11/24 04:11 AM |
| 3 | Wellness check: how're you coping with the fallout?Glad you're okay. You mom's behavior isn't how adults behave, especially with a family. Maybe a gentle encouragement for a social media hiatus is in order. It's actually a good idea for most, but especially the peer group your mom is in. Tell your dad to be careful. You focus on you because you have a lot of life to live. Be well. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/11/24 07:52 PM |
| 12 | Wellness check: how're you coping with the fallout?I've heard women call the women who voted for him, Misogynist. I mean, that should tell us how far this has gone and there's never accountability or any introspection. It's way different than 2016. Very true statement there. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/11/24 07:38 PM |
| 9 | Wellness check: how're you coping with the fallout?You may be surprised to know you have a lot in common with divorced men. Their children have been turned into visitors for a couple of weekends per month. Their long-term friends "believed the false allegations used in the divorce to get the kids, etc... so those relations are strained if not lost. They don't date because it's become too dangerous, and they've learned they really can't trust the family court system should a marriage happen again. The reasons maybe different but most are broke, b… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/11/24 07:29 PM |
| 6 | Wellness check: how're you coping with the fallout?Agree, once I saw what was happening, I can't unsee it. And boy is it on display in full force now. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/11/24 07:04 PM |
| 6 | Wellness check: how're you coping with the fallout?I really haven't seen any of what you say here. Interesting. I've seen and heard the word Misogynist to describe the WOMEN voters who voted for him. WOW. I've heard lower educated and racist from Dems when talking about the black population that voted for him. I've heard the term "power hungry" to describe the Latino vote for him. It's been a astonishing eye-opening experience for me. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/11/24 07:03 PM |
| 1 | Wellness check: how're you coping with the fallout?Men, young men, especially if your white need to be very, very careful now. You will now be the target even more so than before. Even husbands will be targeted. I think we should especially track the number of divorces that will certainly be spiking in the next year. The family court system in place already makes you a mark in the scheme. Now there will be even more self-justification, anger, revenge to use the system, while it's still enables, supports, incentivizes and rewards them to enact a … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/11/24 06:55 PM |
| 2 | My ex just got a ridiculous OFP against me and 3/4 children. I can’t believe she did this. This was easily the dumbest thing she’s ever done.Just like Amber heard said Johnny Depp was an "abusive monster" and took pictures of him passed out and staged scenes with drugs on the table. She was believed until finally he spent millions and millions of dollars to have it all come to light in a public courtroom. Same strategy and it is very common. You have my empathy. | /r/Divorce_Men | 13/01/24 03:34 PM |
| 1 | 21K Subscribers!The incentives have been around forever, but they have now skewed so much in favor of mothers and that they are irresistible. Couple that with the wealth inequality, the fact that most have to work 2 jobs and have a 'side hustle' to just pay for health insurance we have many desperate economic situations added to the knowledge of how the male ex-spouse can be used to 'get a leg up with not too much effort. I also agree with Covid and social media but not with things are getting fairer for men. W… | /r/Divorce_Men | 19/12/23 06:31 AM |
| 1 | Question about Male Reproductive Rights.At this point the only answer is to demand male oral contraception. This will give males autonomy over their reproductive health. The 6+ forms of female contraception clearly aren't working. Also, no form of female contraception involves dulling physical sensation and I would bet the rate of use would drastically decline if this were the case. As mentioned, the only choices males have is abstinence or vasectomy. A vasectomy is NOT so easily reversable as proponents make it out to be and abstinen… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/12/23 10:39 PM |
| 2 | Not attracted to women after divorce?This. So much this. You know, it'd be one thing if it were only the behavior of the Ex. That would be tolerable and something that a man/father could come to terms with and move on accepting that he made a bad choice in a mate. BUT, the fact the family court system, and current view of men as being disposable ATM machines, incentivized and rewarded the behavior that traumatized the children. The "justice" system treats them like some 2nd class citizens while using them up to extract every bit of… | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/12/23 10:24 PM |
| 2 | just done Judicial Case Conference, need adviseIn the US one of the 1st things men/fathers learn is that your lawyer's first duty is to the court, not you as a client. The attorneys, judges, and other players in the process are all office co-workers and the procedure lays out all of your finances for them all to see and proceed how they see fit. I'm not sure about Canada but from my viewpoint and the spaces I've been in regarding men and fathers in divorce is - men are disposable on every account except what they are able to pay. Be careful.… | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/12/23 02:10 AM |
| 5 | I’m realizing I got used and playedSo sorry about this. Yea, it's a pretty common tactic that's used to begin proceedings. See 'silver bullet strategy'. Usually, they get control of the kids, house, vehicles, friends, employers, your reputation and you pay a lot of money over the years for them to do it to you. They are supported, encouraged, and applauded by the family court system to do so. I think every first post in the sub begins with a notion of disbelief. You got this. Protect yourself, learn, grow and if you see a way, be… | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/12/23 02:00 AM |
| 2 | 21K Subscribers!All of their post are on r/livingoneasystreetwithmychildren. The divorce process doesn't seem to disrupt their lives, it enhances their lives at the expense of children, men and fathers.. I think the lack of post in that sub is very telling. | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/12/23 01:51 AM |
| 2 | 21K Subscribers!Covid, the incentives that are in place for the ex- spouses, society's current view and narrative of the disposable male to name just a few reasons. | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/12/23 01:47 AM |
| 3 | 21K Subscribers!I'm going to chime in and say this sub was crucial in helping me understand I wasn't alone and what I was going through was common. I was stunned that the playbook was the same over the stories with varying degrees of extremes. As weird as it is to say I actually found comfort in knowing my circus was very, very tame compared to the extremes being endured by many gentlemen in the sub, and my heart breaks for them. This sub has provided solace and support while giving me inspiration to go on for … | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/12/23 01:45 AM |
| 2 | Divorce with kids is crippling, A death sentence to men.Right, a business contract you need no lawyer to get into, but one or more to get out of...and still lose every time. | /r/Divorce_Men | 04/12/23 02:29 PM |
| 0 | Divorce with kids is crippling, A death sentence to men.There needs to be a public push for male oral birth control. Men can regain agency over their reproductive rights. The 6 or so forms of female birth control don't seem to be working, even though none of them dull physical sensation. It's hard to believe science cannot achieve this. | /r/Divorce_Men | 04/12/23 02:27 PM |
| 4 | Wife having second thoughts? Need to get your opinionsShe has shown you what your worth is to her. Believe her. She is planning, stalling and placating. Her initial plan didn't work out for whatever reason, and she is regrouping. If you really want advice like you say it'd be a good idea to take a day or so and peruse this sub to see how it happens. Every single father in her told themselves the exact story, and stories you'll tell yourself. You'll find the incentives, encouragement and help from the court she has to ditch you are too much to pass … | /r/Divorce_Men | 04/12/23 06:03 AM |
| 2 | This sub is kind of depressingYes, this sub is depressing because it highlights a family court system that deprives children of meaningful relationships with one of their two parents. It preys on distraught families and has devised ways of extracting as much wealth and generational wealth from children and parents to enrich the players involved. If you read the heartbreaking stories here and come away thinking it's just men/fathers being bitter and you stay silent because you can't understand what's happening to children and… | /r/Divorce_Men | 04/12/23 05:11 AM |
| 2 | ’50/50′ custody bill gets big changes in committee as ‘compromise’ with Bill CriticsThis is why there are no actual standards written in state and local laws that are actual guidelines for their favorite saying, "the best interest of the child". It allows judges to "rule" against children with no explanation needed. It's the reason there's no judicial review, no case review, and the only option is to $50 appeal to an appellate court that will never overturn a trial court judges opinion. It allows rulings without a written statement as to why the ruling was made. | /r/Divorce_Men | 04/12/23 04:10 AM |
| 2 | ’50/50′ custody bill gets big changes in committee as ‘compromise’ with Bill CriticsGAL's, child therapists, the federal Title IV-D program, the attorneys, and the list goes on and on and on.... The groups that fight a judicial mandate for 50/50 equal physical custody as a starting point when judges hear a custody case the most in every state are the state Bar Assocation, and...well, take a look here at the opponents of the bill for yourself to get an idea of the groups that pop up every time to ensure children are deprived of 1 parent in the winner take all system: Opponents o… | /r/Divorce_Men | 04/12/23 04:04 AM |
| 2 | ’50/50′ custody bill gets big changes in committee as ‘compromise’ with Bill CriticsThis is round 2 of this bill. This representative is pushing hard to make progress. The first one was introduced in 2021. https://www.rodneycreech.com/ | /r/Divorce_Men | 02/12/23 04:37 PM |
| 3 | ’50/50′ custody bill gets big changes in committee as ‘compromise’ with Bill CriticsNPO - National Parent's Organization is the best I know. They have worked behind the scenes in the states that have past the bills. They know better than to outright say "Fathers" in anything they do because they know how fathers are treated so they say "parents" even though they know better. It is way out of hand, you're right. If you can call the Ohio legislatures, donate, speak out, anything helps. We have let it get out of hand. | /r/Divorce_Men | 02/12/23 04:32 PM |
| 3 | ’50/50′ custody bill gets big changes in committee as ‘compromise’ with Bill CriticsHe has a vested (financial) interest in the status quo -like most other things. High conflict and unequal custody = money to attorneys, judges (ex-attorneys), and all of the corrupt actors involved in the family court system. | /r/Divorce_Men | 02/12/23 04:31 PM |
| 2 | ’50/50′ custody bill gets big changes in committee as ‘compromise’ with Bill CriticsNPO seems to be the best chance we have. They work behind the scenes and they need help. They are the ones responsible for bringing about the 5 states that currently have mandatory equal 50/50 shared custody laws enacted. They need help. Don't be put off by parents in the name. They are smart enough to know what happens anytime the word "father" is mentioned concerning children. They have made progress. 5 down 45 to go. I'm sure they'd appreciate anyone's help. | /r/Divorce_Men | 02/12/23 04:29 PM |
| 2 | I Feel RobbedGenerally, 8 to 10 years into the marriage (10 years to ensure alimony for at least half of the length of the marriage). Children between 4 and 8 to ensure at least 10 years of a child support check. 1 year to plan it all. It's now an epidemic. | /r/Divorce_Men | 02/12/23 01:50 AM |
| 2 | I Feel RobbedWhile I agree, there's a 90% percent chance the courts (a judge) will give it all to her. | /r/Divorce_Men | 02/12/23 01:47 AM |
| 1 | I Feel RobbedDon't forget teachers at school, feminist child therapists, bother her and your attorney, and one family court judge (ex-attorney). Out-gunned indeed. | /r/Divorce_Men | 02/12/23 01:45 AM |
| 1 | Wife had a 3 year affair with my brother!I see. I think all states are "no fault" states, it's just that some also have the option of fault divorce, too. In the 70's Governor Ronald Reagan created No Fault divorce in C.A. He said it was his biggest mistake. " the judge has made it very clear that she will not give my ex what she wants because of her affair." ~ I think that's what judges should do as far as alimony and post separation support. I still think custody should be equal 50/50 physical custody as the kids had nothing to do wit… | /r/Divorce_Men | 20/08/23 12:59 PM |
| 1 | They never loved usI agree that it's never good to make conclusions using anecdotal evidence. How much anecdotal evidence is needed before we consider it's becoming a pattern? | /r/Divorce_Men | 16/08/23 01:46 PM |
| 1 | Wife had a 3 year affair with my brother!Everyone will have a million ideas of what will happen, what's right, what's just, and "they can or can't do that", and this and that. Many will have anecdotal evidence about what happened to themselves, their friend or family member that they'll base their advice on. Many also think they live in a certain type of state, like yourself that equitable. There are, however, some truths: Only 5 states have a judicial mandate for mandatory 50/50 Equal Physical Custody as a starting point for judges to… | /r/Divorce_Men | 15/08/23 10:51 PM |
| 1 | Wife had a 3 year affair with my brother!This is quite common and the family court system actually incentives this behavior because there are no repercussions for it. The outcomes are considerably more favorable for the ones that want it all. Most of these situations are accompanied by false allegations of abuse that are almost always believed. The current environment says to this type of person: "do what you want and if you get caught just divorce because you will get the kids and a step up in life." Demand family court reform. | /r/Divorce_Men | 15/08/23 10:50 PM |
| 1 | Wife had a 3 year affair with my brother!Yes, the judge can do whatever they want with oversight. Unfortunately, the chances of accountability for adulterous females are all but absent. There may be a case or two but the current atmosphere and state of our family court system incentives the behavior. It's a pay day and a financial step up for the adulterers that are female. Also, if the kids are his it wouldn't be fair to the children to remove the mother from their life. Regardless of what happens between the parents, what's really in… | /r/Divorce_Men | 15/08/23 10:19 PM |
| 1 | Wife had a 3 year affair with my brother!This. Pay attention to this OP. | /r/Divorce_Men | 15/08/23 09:45 PM |
| 2 | They never loved us"One person can break the contract, for any reason, without permission from the other? And still walk away with assets from the contract?" "whoever files the lawsuit IS GUARANTEED TO WIN" "Divorce is a creature of the State." For the reasons you named, it will never happen. Divorce is a way for the state to extract as much generational wealth from you and your children as possible. Women/mothers are the tool and are incentivized to bring the lawsuit. They compensate them in the form government a… | /r/Divorce_Men | 14/08/23 02:25 PM |
| 25 | They never loved ustoxically optimistic A perfect term to describe men in marriage. They will overlook everything and put up with abusive behavior for years only to be discarded, broken, tired, indentured, and 2 weekend per month visitors to their children. It sounds like you had a fortunate, and rare outcome. | /r/Divorce_Men | 13/08/23 04:36 PM |
| 4 | They never loved usExactly this. Thats why you sign a business contract (marriage license). And a divorce is a lawsuit. | /r/Divorce_Men | 13/08/23 04:25 PM |
| 6 | They never loved usGrey rock method. This is the way. | /r/Divorce_Men | 13/08/23 04:23 PM |
| 3 | They never loved usAre you saying that because your experience is different their experiences and viewpoints shared by others on this page is just cynical? Do you think all of these guys are just too "broken" for the love in their marriage to be enough and that's why they're treated the way they are? It sounds a bit dismissive. How far are you into the divorce process? I would bet these guys are further down the path. You may want to pay attention and prepare for what could very well happen to you, and your kid(s)… | /r/Divorce_Men | 13/08/23 04:22 PM |
| 5 | Shamed because I picked up a 6 year old girl.I should have perhaps not been so 'friendly' It's so sad to hear a person feel like they have to say and be like this. What are the next 10 years going to bring? | /r/MensRights | 11/08/23 04:55 AM |
| 8 | Shamed because I picked up a 6 year old girl.Want to say it's heartening to have understanding and acknowledgement from a woman when men voice their experiences. It seems men have been placed in a box and its women's voices who will need to speak for them. Men are dismissed instantly and the mothers of sons, sisters of brothers, new girlfriends and wives are beginning to see how troubling the new culture of disposable and irrelevant males is becoming. Especially in family court. The men in your life and their future men need you so much to… | /r/MensRights | 11/08/23 04:52 AM |
| 3 | Shamed because I picked up a 6 year old girl.You be ticked if your friends took a picture of your kid? | /r/MensRights | 11/08/23 04:36 AM |
| 3 | "Violence against men is committed by other men". Ok, so what?One that's been mutilated without question. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/08/23 12:56 AM |
| 5 | "Violence against men is committed by other men". Ok, so what?It is philosophically weaponizing violence and the word violence. The terms "violence against women" or black on black violence" is a problem need to be abolished and only the word violence should be used. There are no degrees and no worlds where violence should be accepted. Anyone who uses the term violence against ______ has an agenda that needs to be called out. Also, intimidation, manipulation, verbal and non-verbal threats, body language, reputation ruining, coercion and menacing gestures a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/08/23 12:53 AM |
| 10 | Shamed because I picked up a 6 year old girl.Misandry needs to be called out -outloud. Every. Single. Time. Don't let this accurate term get lost and buried in our current society. Use it. | /r/MensRights | 11/08/23 12:23 AM |
| 7 | Shamed because I picked up a 6 year old girl.This is true, but there are also horrible women. Just as many, but they get a pass and there's never even a focus. | /r/MensRights | 11/08/23 12:21 AM |
| 5 | Shamed because I picked up a 6 year old girl.If you've ever experienced this or know someone who has, or even if you're just a male, the place to change this is in the family court system. Demand 50/50 equal custody of children. Only 4 states currently have this in place, REGARDLESS of what you hear. Mothers get majority physical custody if a case goes to family court. Fathers always have been and are getting more and more to only be weekend visitors to their children and children are not seen enough with men. This causes the attitude and … | /r/MensRights | 11/08/23 12:18 AM |
| 1 | Missouri Joins KY, AK, WV, FL in Passing Real Equal Shared Parenting LegislationI'm so sorry that happened. I guess there's never been any accountability for her actions and what she's done. In essence, that's the message: taking children away from a father is what's in the best interest of a child. I used to think it was very much frowned upon and maybe that's true to an extent, but not by judges in the family court system. All she has to say is that there's a better job opportunity, or better housing available, or that she's moving to marry a new spouse and have a family … | /r/Divorce_Men | 10/08/23 04:38 AM |
| 1 | Missouri Joins KY, AK, WV, FL in Passing Real Equal Shared Parenting LegislationI see. Yes. I understand. I take it she did that without going to a judge first. It seems most times judges will give the okay to do that anyway. | /r/Divorce_Men | 07/08/23 01:26 AM |
| 1 | Missouri Joins KY, AK, WV, FL in Passing Real Equal Shared Parenting LegislationI am in your position, but the time percentage is reversed. I know the kids don't care about means, affairs, etc... I believe in 50/50 regardless. She must've REALLY effed up if she (I should say the kids) gets 30%. Seems pretty rare if cases make it in front of a judge. | /r/Divorce_Men | 03/08/23 10:24 PM |
| 1 | Missouri Joins KY, AK, WV, FL in Passing Real Equal Shared Parenting LegislationYou have a unique perspective on it. How is the 70% time calculated? Is there a formula or something? What would be best for your kid(s)? Regardless of who effed up? Honest question. I know there are many angles. | /r/Divorce_Men | 30/07/23 04:19 PM |
| 1 | Missouri Joins KY, AK, WV, FL in Passing Real Equal Shared Parenting LegislationRight. Seems to be no accountability. None for perjury and false allegations in court, none for lying on financial affidavits, none for taking a child (sometimes across state lines) from the father and denying a relationship, none for financial marital misconduct, and the list goes on and on. I regards to alimony; I believe a restorative model would make sense. If someone sacrifices a portion of their life for the sake of raising a family, it makes sense to help them get back on their financial … | /r/Divorce_Men | 30/07/23 04:16 PM |
| 1 | Missouri Joins KY, AK, WV, FL in Passing Real Equal Shared Parenting LegislationFamily court as it stands now was created by attorneys, for attorneys, and uses Judges (ex-attorneys) to extract as much wealth from current and future generations as possible. The SOP is to cause as much conflict between parents to get them into court and/or use their service. They know that parents will spend and do ANYHING for their kids. That's why they're against it. I know you know though. The providers are always the marks. | /r/Divorce_Men | 29/07/23 10:10 PM |
| 1 | Missouri Joins KY, AK, WV, FL in Passing Real Equal Shared Parenting LegislationI think Equal 50/50 Physical Custody is a separate issue, albiet under the umbrella, of divorce. Yes, Title IV-D needs serious reform. See Molly for that one. A great old YT vid. NPO is really a great source to cite, as you did. They are doing the heavy lifting. It sounds like you put energy into this cause. You probably have your own story. We all need to help with the lifting. You especially know what we're up against here. NEXT will be title IV-D and if 50/50 physical custody becomes standard… | /r/Divorce_Men | 29/07/23 10:07 PM |
| 2 | Missouri Joins KY, AK, WV, FL in Passing Real Equal Shared Parenting LegislationI agree with you and encourage you to not waste time arguing with anyone who won't change their mind or even be open to it. Spend that time activating and complete tasks like calling state reps, emailing, donating, etc.. Change what you can. Future generations are at risk. This is not hyperbole either. | /r/Divorce_Men | 29/07/23 10:03 PM |
| 2 | Missouri Joins KY, AK, WV, FL in Passing Real Equal Shared Parenting LegislationTaking away the incentive of a "winner take all" system is a good start. Automatic 50/50 physical custody would force negotiation in mediation. Now there's no incentive for women to negotiate. Combined with alimony, post separation support, government assistance, etc... It's a big part of a payday when they know they'll get 90%. Custody is the 1st of many needed reforms and I agree with you. But it is a good step. Also, most fathers want fight for their kids because they know they'll lose and me… | /r/Divorce_Men | 29/07/23 10:01 PM |
| 3 | Missouri Joins KY, AK, WV, FL in Passing Real Equal Shared Parenting LegislationLike most things: $$ The biggest opponents of this legislation is the state's Family Court Bar Association and some Women's groups. There big money to be had in conflict over children. Generational wealth is extracted from parents to enrich the players in the family court system. Of course, there's much more to it, but ultimately - Cha Ching. | /r/Divorce_Men | 29/07/23 05:02 PM |
| 24 | Why is every "i hate being male" reddit post, always filled with people not reading anything the person is saying and immediately going to "women have it worse, women are secondary citizens" etcPrivilege is invisible to those that have it. | /r/MensRights | 03/07/23 03:31 AM |
| 8 | Why is every "i hate being male" reddit post, always filled with people not reading anything the person is saying and immediately going to "women have it worse, women are secondary citizens" etcYou forgot the very first instance in most males' lives: Male Genital Mutilation. Cue the "it's because boys aren't clean" tripe comments. Then go find the lack of any credible science backing up this horrible claim. Imagine the trauma that a male goes through during this "procedure". There's been a global effort to stop in other countries. Here in the US, not a word about it. But yea, add MGM to your list because it and the comments you will hear once it's brought up are the 1st issue of the di… | /r/MensRights | 03/07/23 03:29 AM |
| 1 | "Only women, children, and dogs are loved unconditionally. A man is only loved under the condition that he provide something"Good point and makes sense. For me, it was divorce and the way fathers/men are treated in family court. It led me to men's spaces and looking for answers from others in the same situation. What I found was/is horrific and heartbreaking. I had no idea what has been happening to basic human rights until I stumbled into different men's spaces. It is much larger than the family court's manipulation of fathers and children. I held a complete opposite view before my journey and have been so naive, but… | /r/MensRights | 25/06/23 05:22 PM |
| 2 | "Only women, children, and dogs are loved unconditionally. A man is only loved under the condition that he provide something". I am flaud I am flaud flawed... Couldn't resist, it was too perfect. :) Is there a specific experienced you've had or realization that's caused you to be interested in men's struggles? | /r/MensRights | 09/06/23 01:09 AM |
| 3 | "Only women, children, and dogs are loved unconditionally. A man is only loved under the condition that he provide something"I fell for it again. | /r/MensRights | 05/06/23 01:21 PM |
| 10 | "Only women, children, and dogs are loved unconditionally. A man is only loved under the condition that he provide something"I have much respect for this comment because you're able to intake new information and not double down on a position. That's a great character trait! | /r/MensRights | 03/06/23 12:57 AM |
| 6 | "Only women, children, and dogs are loved unconditionally. A man is only loved under the condition that he provide something"Have you thought about the actual validity of the statement, though? Regardless of where it came from, it seems to ring true for many, many men/fathers in this day and age. | /r/MensRights | 03/06/23 12:52 AM |
| 12 | "Only women, children, and dogs are loved unconditionally. A man is only loved under the condition that he provide something"You forgot the part where she divorces him and enjoys the same lifestyle and gets him out of the picture, so she now doesn't have to be bothered with him. | /r/MensRights | 03/06/23 12:49 AM |
| 2 | I'm still a FeministI think you are an Egalitarian, not a Feminist. If you aren't I'd kindly ask you to consider it. Promote equality and fairness for both genders (everyone). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/06/23 11:11 PM |
| 1 | What to do when a group of girls harass a boy & then falsely accuse him for groping/raping?US is no different, unfortunately. It is able to conceal it better, but it's the same. Just look at the family court system and what the message that our children are receiving from society about men/fathers. | /r/MensRights | 26/05/23 07:38 PM |
| 2 | Even the Girlfriends are getting a pass to terrorize men now. 💀 Poor IzzyThe latest family court attorney strategy regarding prenuptial agreements is the claim they were signed under duress. A court order of any kind is only as good as the judge that will enforce it. Unfortunately, In the US family courts there's no judicial oversight and judges are put in place by family court attorneys because most of the time the judges themselves are either current or ex-practicing family attorneys. The only goal of the process is to extract as much wealth from families as possib… | /r/PussyPass | 19/05/23 12:56 PM |
| 1 | Ohio Bill for Automatic 50-50 Child Custody Introduced - Same Opposition as BeforeAh, I see. Can you point me to the legislation, law or statute? I can't seem to find it anywhere. I know most states call it the 'standard order' - see Disney Daddy who's only role is fun father to babysit and entertain children, so the busy, busy single moms get a little break. But is this an actual state mandate in OH? | /r/Divorce_Men | 21/03/23 02:32 AM |
| 1 | TaxesAgree with all of that. It's so engrained and even Pro Se has no chance. I feel like the only way to make any change in this is transparency. Shine the light in. But even local reporters will cower to the powers that be State Reps are in on it. Court rooms need to be packed with court watchers. Maybe a non-profit that pays people to be in the public court rooms witnessing. It's really the only thing I can think that will make any headway. Pure exposure. It's a big monster parents (mostly fathers… | /r/Divorce_Men | 20/03/23 07:48 AM |
| 5 | TaxesI will tell you this though her lawyer is playing games with you and I think your lawyer is in on it. This from u/DntCareBears Pay attention. Family court attorneys use this process to extract as much generational wealth from you (and your children if you have them) as possible to enrich themselves. Their 1st duty is to the court- not you. Look up your statutes. Realizer this and create your strategy knowing you are in a game where it's you vs her attorney, your attorney, the judge, the state, t… | /r/Divorce_Men | 20/03/23 12:42 AM |
| 2 | Ohio Bill for Automatic 50-50 Child Custody Introduced - Same Opposition as BeforeThere's "50/50" and there's MANDATED 50/50 starting point a judge MUST begin with. Just because a state says they are equal custody doesn't mean they are. It's smoke and mirrors. A judge can literally do whatever they want to. Unchecked judicial abuse is the norm in family court. Call the 2 reps that introduced and sponsored the bill and encourage them. The powerful people in the ingrained system they are taking on is frightening. Lawyers depend on stealing the generational wealth from parents t… | /r/Divorce_Men | 20/03/23 12:27 AM |
| 1 | Ohio Bill for Automatic 50-50 Child Custody Introduced - Same Opposition as BeforeCA does not do this. Be careful on wording. There's "presumes 50/50 custody states'" but they don't do it and have NO judicial mandate that maximum equal amount of time be a starting point and a JUDICIAL mandate. It's fluffy wording like "best interest of the child" when in fact judges have unchecked power, no judicial review unless a parent spends their life savings to appeal the decision and appellate courts will only uphold the original judge's decision. Appealed decisions are only overturned… | /r/Divorce_Men | 20/03/23 12:18 AM |
| 1 | Ohio Bill for Automatic 50-50 Child Custody Introduced - Same Opposition as BeforeIt was the House Rep who introduced the bill for the 2nd time. It's a true and sad fact that should enrage every parent, grandparent, parent to be, and drive them to action. To protect future generations. | /r/Divorce_Men | 20/03/23 12:11 AM |
| 2 | Ohio Bill for Automatic 50-50 Child Custody Introduced - Same Opposition as BeforeIn the world we live in today were parents have to work 2 jobs, or 1 job that works 60 hours a week it's really too much to ask one parent to be the only parent 90% of the time. Children require more time and attention to raise. They are falling through the cracks and it's been impacting society as a whole. | /r/Divorce_Men | 20/03/23 12:06 AM |
| 1 | Ohio Bill for Automatic 50-50 Child Custody Introduced - Same Opposition as BeforeWomen's groups claiming all men are abusers and if you have the mandate of Equal Shared Physical Custody, "you're a putting children at risk". AND, probably more importantly it's Family Court LAWYERS and the state's bar association. Attorneys bank of the conflict that arises in a "custody battle" that would be all but nonexistent if a judicial mandate of 50/50 custody was in place and there would be no use to fight over the children. AND in many states, it's also Judicial Associations, as with O… | /r/Divorce_Men | 20/03/23 12:01 AM |
| 3 | Ohio Bill for Automatic 50-50 Child Custody Introduced - Same Opposition as BeforeRight. And most of the time the mother and child(ren) must live the same lifestyle as they were accustomed to during the marriage. Despite of finances being cut in half (at best). This forces one parent to maintain the other's lifestyle, even after dividing property, retirement funds and the need to pay their set of bills. It's as if the whole point IS to take money away from the other parent AND give the rest to the attorneys. "The Best Interest of the Child" is never considered in family court… | /r/Divorce_Men | 18/03/23 03:49 AM |
| 4 | Ohio Bill for Automatic 50-50 Child Custody Introduced - Same Opposition as BeforeIt's interesting how just the potential for abuse is their reason to deny children their parent. Convenient. | /r/Divorce_Men | 17/03/23 11:17 PM |
| 1 | Ohio Bill for Automatic 50-50 Child Custody Introduced - Same Opposition as BeforeI think that's why states and family court attorneys do not want any form of equal custody. Even though there are many parents that have 50/50 equal custody and still are made to pay child support. | /r/Divorce_Men | 17/03/23 11:16 PM |
| 5 | Getting marriedI’m mentoring a very smart hardworking beautiful young woman. I feel like I might not be giving her the best advice if I tell her to go into finance… WOW. This puts it all into its rightful perspective. | /r/Divorce_Men | 27/12/22 01:53 PM |
| 3 | Getting marriedTrue, but it will not allow her access to drain the joint bank account after changing the passwords and depositing that money into her account she secretly opened up, maxing out the credit cards that are in your name leaving you with a giant debt hole to climb out of as you're trying to pay for attorneys. But I do believe you're right, I doubt any judge would enforce her to pay off her portion of any loan in that's in both names. Ultimately ruining his credit and denying him any possibility to g… | /r/Divorce_Men | 27/12/22 01:43 PM |
| 3 | Getting marriedshe will do her best to destroy he old love so she can feel better about what she is doing. So insightful, well-said, and most of all: true. There will have to be a justification for her behavior so she can sleep at night, and she'll make it up in her head and OP will just be the villain in her scenario. | /r/Divorce_Men | 27/12/22 01:33 PM |
| 4 | Getting marriedThis seems like a rare experience that a prenup actually worked. There seem to be all kinds of work arounds. "I signed it under duress" being the most popular. What I have learned is this: A prenup, a court order, ANYTHING is only as good or enforced as the Judge presiding over the trial/hearing. Attorneys and Judges have to be loyal to "the court process" before they are loyal to you. I'm guessing you didn't have children. That's a whole other loss for fathers. Either way, I'm glad you shared y… | /r/Divorce_Men | 27/12/22 01:25 PM |
| 1 | What are some green flags for picking a future wife?According to the U.S. Census Bureau, after 15 years almost half of all marriages have ended, most through divorce. Fewer than 5 percent of all marriages last 50 years. There are no green flags. Even if you think you see green flags, the current attitudes toward men coupled with the financial incentive for women to seek divorce will easily turn any green flag to red. Until there are safeguards in our family court system that hold perjurers accountable for their actions with real consequences, do … | /r/Divorce_Men | 03/10/22 06:32 PM |
| 2 | Another Man Will Have More Time With My Child Than MeComparatively, this seems like a decent working co-parent relationship, It has to be tough, but it's probably better for the kids. So many attorneys drive conflict between the parents because it's a big payday for them and it damages the kids. Usually on top of the detrimental state of a family split. | /r/Divorce_Men | 17/09/22 04:49 AM |
| 2 | Another Man Will Have More Time With My Child Than MeYikes! Yea, that's a good yearly income. It is 50/50 custody, right? she’ll still slow access to Disney plus and Netflix and stuff like that for when they come over and she still buys most the clothes and make their school lunches every day. That's petty to slow services. Buying clothes is helpful. How does she make lunches every day? I think I'm missing something. | /r/Divorce_Men | 16/09/22 02:56 PM |
| 2 | Another Man Will Have More Time With My Child Than MeOkay- So you 2 agreed 50/50 custody, you get $750/ month in support and 1/2 her savings account at the time. That sounds pretty fair and I would say it's a much better outcome when no lawyers and judges are involved. Do you feel it's a fair 'settlement'? | /r/Divorce_Men | 16/09/22 02:34 PM |
| 1 | Another Man Will Have More Time With My Child Than MeThanks for this. I come back to these comments for support, ideas, and inspiration. | /r/Divorce_Men | 16/09/22 01:10 AM |
| 1 | Another Man Will Have More Time With My Child Than MeHey there. I'm coming back to this because I just want to relay that my situation is very much real and it's hard to deal with on a day to day basis. The time I'm missing with my kid can't be made up. I think a lot of comments on here come from a place of hurt and sense of injustice. Like someone telling you that you are only 20% of a parent. It's rough and the experiences can easily make a person jaded. It's hard to keep a logical perspective. Just want to say this because I don't want your imp… | /r/Divorce_Men | 16/09/22 01:06 AM |
| 2 | Another Man Will Have More Time With My Child Than MeI'm late on this but 'm curios as top what you situation is. Did you go in front of a judge? It's all such a lopsided struggle and you have my empathy. | /r/Divorce_Men | 16/09/22 01:02 AM |
| 3 | After 7 years and a 2 year old, wife wants divorce.I agree with this. We also can't overlook the fact the family court system is financially incentivized for women to divorce. It's a payday. They will automatically get 1/2 of a retirement plan, 1/2 of property, Alimony for half the length of marriage if over 10 years. She will get custody of the children 80% and dad will get the weekend visitor role causing him to have to pay more in childcare. More than likely, he will have to pay her attorney costs. The family court system says the mom and chi… | /r/Divorce_Men | 02/09/22 06:43 PM |
| 2 | Wife wants a divorceThis find the posts in here that will tell you the next steps you need to take legally- and now. If you don't, you'll still be grieving but in a MUCH worse situation. Don't move out- record fopr your protection, be nice- focus on the future. What you do now and how you do it will affect the rest of your life and the system has set you up to be broke, tired, over worked, indentured.....and grieving. Get to it and stay strong. There is another side. | /r/Divorce_Men | 25/08/22 05:06 AM |
| 2 | Alimony modificationWow, just wow. Not surprised but wow. The attitude toward the disposable male who's only worth is to be the ATM machine. | /r/Divorce_Men | 25/08/22 04:56 AM |
| 1 | the system creates "deadbeat" dadsYou have my empathy and this story is basically the same and I'm so sorry. One day I'm going to stumble onto a post where fathers are too broke, tired, emotionally spent and indentured to actually organize. It seems to be many splintered factions and the groups I come across on other platforms are older and lasted maybe 1 or 2 years long ago on the energy that they were losing their children and/or had become visitors and were desperately trying to do something. I was just like you judging 'dead… | /r/Divorce_Men | 25/08/22 04:53 AM |
| 1 | My friend thinks he is being abused. Can he move out while he is seeking a divorce or legal separation?Family court seems to be a system designed by attorneys, for attorneys that uses ex attorneys (Judges) to extract as much wealth from parent providers (mostly fathers) and future generations to enrich themselves and the state they practice in. | /r/Divorce_Men | 21/08/22 04:16 PM |
| 2 | My friend thinks he is being abused. Can he move out while he is seeking a divorce or legal separation?I understand what you're saying, but I don't think it's that black and white, on purpose. Filing for Abandonment is usually accompanied with Divorce Bed and Board and possibly an exparte. It's a part of a tactic used, a strategy to gain an advantage in negotiations to force an unfavorable deal that's not equitable. One more issue to have to defend like false DV allegations. I don't think Abandonment is ever just a single issue that gets litigated. It's incorporated into a package of claims for r… | /r/Divorce_Men | 21/08/22 03:45 PM |
| 2 | My friend thinks he is being abused. Can he move out while he is seeking a divorce or legal separation?Yes. It's really incredible. AND the family law bar associations, probably in every state. Are you familiar with this Florida Bill SB 1796 ? Equal Shared Parenting 50/50 and Alimony Reform making it rehabilitative instead of permanent is on the desk of the Gov. NOW and the Florida Family Attorney Bar Association are fighting it hard, Any ideas of what we can do? | /r/Divorce_Men | 21/08/22 03:10 PM |
| 2 | My friend thinks he is being abused. Can he move out while he is seeking a divorce or legal separation?If he's at this stage, it may be a good idea for this. It's from another post for someone beginning this journey. So it may seem weird, but the info can be helpful in what to expect and prepare for. You're a good friend and he'll need you for the foreseeable future. "I can't believe no one here has given you any advice or a real-world advice. I'll try to 'get you started.' You've probably already seen a big shift in her attitude like she hates you and you have been abusive the whole marriage. Pe… | /r/Divorce_Men | 21/08/22 03:16 AM |
| 2 | My friend thinks he is being abused. Can he move out while he is seeking a divorce or legal separation?Not sure if you've received the advice to keep some kind of recorder on at all times. Like a security cam set up during every interaction. Some states say it's okay if only 1 person know they're being recorded- others say 2 have to know. It can be the best protection. If it's not a personal device and in the room or anywhere for security, it's safer. Check the recording laws in your state. Sometimes just the thought of being recorded will keep her from false allegations even if not recording. | /r/Divorce_Men | 21/08/22 03:09 AM |
| -1 | My friend thinks he is being abused. Can he move out while he is seeking a divorce or legal separation?Not true. How many cases are you pulling this claim from? Can you really say that in such a certain tone with 100% confidence? Not trying to give you a hard time but we have to be careful about our statements to other men/dads. It's a treacherous time for anyone new in the process and has no idea what they're in for. | /r/Divorce_Men | 21/08/22 03:03 AM |
| 3 | My friend thinks he is being abused. Can he move out while he is seeking a divorce or legal separation?Yup, same here. But - you'd probably be fighting a DV charge at the same time had you not moved out. There's no right way to do it when it's set up for you to only be the ATM machine men are seen in family court... and society in general it seems. Don't be too tough on yourself. You have empathy here. | /r/Divorce_Men | 21/08/22 02:59 AM |
| 2 | My friend thinks he is being abused. Can he move out while he is seeking a divorce or legal separation?All true, but that page and forum has saved many a man, in some way I'm sure. But it is a strange thing that they are exploiting the very thing that should be fixed reformed. If they really cared about the issues they'd have an army of lobbyist and spend a smidgen of their ginormous money-bags of cash on advertisements screaming and exposing the billions of dollar divorce industry for destroying parents (mostly fathers) and children every day. All of the attorneys know the judges and they are al… | /r/Divorce_Men | 21/08/22 02:55 AM |
| 1 | Another Family Court System Player that Has Control of Your Fate: Family Court AdministratorI'm not sure I understand what you mean. Can you elaborate? | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/07/22 11:19 PM |
| 1 | Sex strikeAt this point, it'd be safer for everyone all around. No accidents, no child support extortion, no changing of minds and false allegations, etc... Can anyone really trust to be that vulnerable anymore? It's a sad statement but with what's going on in the equality conversation is tragic and just unsafe on every level. For Everybody. | /r/MensRights | 28/06/22 02:09 AM |
| 1 | Roe vs Wade has been Overturned; If we truly believe in Human Rights, we must support a Women’s Right to ChooseI didn't consider this aspect. That's a huge industry as well. CPS and the foster care companies readily take children away from parents they deem 'unfit'. | /r/MensRights | 25/06/22 01:05 PM |
| 1 | Roe vs Wade has been Overturned; If we truly believe in Human Rights, we must support a Women’s Right to ChooseI'm trying to understand your comment. I believe I'm in agreement with it, but can you elaborate on the "fetus harvesting industry has gone on long enough" ? I'm not sure what you mean. | /r/MensRights | 25/06/22 12:16 AM |
| 5 | Roe vs Wade has been Overturned; If we truly believe in Human Rights, we must support a Women’s Right to ChooseI'm of the mind that: less abortions = more children more children = more fathers - more fathers = more family court cases more family court cases= more fathers turned into visitors to their children more father visitors = more child support more child support = more money for the states' Title IV-D program more money for the states' Title IV-D program = more free Fed money for states It's America. Follow the money. You can pretend it's about morals, when life begins, choice, whatever. It's not.… | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 11:23 PM |
| 1 | Update: Florida Bill SB 1796 Ending Permanent Alimony & Ensuring Presumed Equal 50/50 Physical Child Custody for Parents5 to 8 seems to be the age where the one parent goes out on their own. It's only my opinion, though. You really can't find any solid data on statistics, but it will give them a free check once per month for approximately 10 years. All tax-free, unaccounted-for money to do as they please. Equal shared physical custody parenting should be a judicial mandate as a starting point. The real issue here is absolute judicial power and a process that has no review. The family court system is designed for … | /r/Divorce_Men | 22/06/22 08:21 PM |
| 9 | I asked why I need Men's Rights, well this is why.Well put and so true. I believe the reason men even become aware of men's issue and equal rights is because they have been a victim of the inequality. And not the everyday run of the mill inequality that shouldn't exist but has been accepted because calling it out makes one the target of serious ridicule. They've suffered severely damaging consequences. Examples are jail time for false allegations, found themselves in an abusive marriage or relationship and realizing there was nowhere to go for … | /r/MensRights | 17/06/22 05:00 PM |
| 2 | My personal wake up call to men's rights...and my continuing nightmare.I think here you'll find understanding and empathy because most have been through the ordeal. It may look a little different because their kids will be abducted in the same city they live in with and ex parte" and false allegations because all of the sudden the mother says "they don't feel safe". So kids are kept from seeing their father and then when court finally comes the established time has already been determined because a judge will not want to change the circumstance for the child. It's … | /r/MensRights | 14/06/22 09:47 PM |
| 2 | Depp/Heard Verdict, Civil Rights for Men/Fathers, & The Future of The LeftIt's really encouraging to see comments like this. In my case and family court, I left an abusive marriage and was accused of abandoning the marriage. The false allegations, an ex parte were more abuse on top of abuse that separated me from my children and my life. Now my abuser has the help of a court system. It really hasn't stopped, it's just a different type of coercive abuse because my ex realizes a judge will back her up regardless. It's horrifying to know any time I go in front of a judge… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/06/22 04:39 AM |
| 2 | Depp/Heard Verdict, Civil Rights for Men/Fathers, & The Future of The LeftAgree with every word of this. I wish I'd read it sooner. Our progression of thought after our personal experience seems to be parallel. I look at many political issues differently with my new glasses. I assess issue by issue as I should have been all along, but I've realized I've identified with a camp in the political realm and not particular problems that need real, tangible solutions. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/06/22 04:25 AM |
| 2 | It is over, it is doneOh yes. I'm divorced and understand all to well the troubles of fathers/men in family court especially. It seems the world will be much less populated very soon. Especially when male birth control hits. Between that and guys recording themselves around females at all times there may be hope. But it will be a long time unless there is broad awareness for what's happening and the message we are sending our children about boys and men. | /r/Divorce_Men | 11/06/22 03:04 AM |
| 1 | It is over, it is doneIt's the same in the states, it's called "common -law'" marriage. A certain number of years and it's automatic. PLUS, if you have a child you are tied to that person, regardless. Male birth control should help give men more autonomy. It'll probably be a game changer, really. | /r/Divorce_Men | 10/06/22 01:09 PM |
| 1 | It is over, it is doneRight- same in the US too. Have to wonder what percentage of the male homeless population is due to divorce. How many lost their jobs because of false allegations and their reputations were ruined? | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/06/22 11:09 PM |
| 1 | The Biggest Groups Fighting Florida's Bill (SB 1796) Ensuring 50/50 Equal Shared Physical Custody & Ending Permanent Alimony Are.........it really pushes women back to being "helpless" creatures who "need" a man to support them. It really seems like it would not empower them at all. I'm not sure anyone would work in this day and age if they could get a nice size check every month. Especially for life. Which is fine, but it shouldn't come at the expense of another person's misery. Alimony needs to a rehabilitative assistance program. It's being exploited. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/06/22 10:54 PM |
| 1 | The Biggest Groups Fighting Florida's Bill (SB 1796) Ensuring 50/50 Equal Shared Physical Custody & Ending Permanent Alimony Are.........Great points. I hadn't thought about the Disney message vs questions about Anderson Cooper. The thing is, is doesn't come up- ever probably but it is another faux issue created then they swoop in to save the day ala CRT theory. Makes sense. CRT worked really, really well then they astro-turfed the outrage and suddenly VA looses a Dem gov.. I appreciate the explanation. I really hope Dems can get on board with equal rights for men/fathers. I think that not addressing it or outright spinning it as… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/06/22 10:47 PM |
| 2 | It is over, it is doneHard to disagree with anything you're saying. I'd like to think there's hope for the future, but it seems to be perpetuating itself. Yes, I have not yet met a woman who stayed with their husband untill death parted them. Maybe 3 generations ago, but even among my grandparents the only examples I know of are 2nd marriages. I wonder where we could find the actual statistics for this, because I can't seem to think of anyone in my circles of grandparents either. Edit: Found this - "According to the … | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/06/22 08:41 PM |
| 2 | 3 Years and still dealing with Bitter and Angry ExAnd it keeps going until kids are 18, and in some cases beyond then. Some states have permanent alimony. Some men have had to get insurance policies to keep paying even if they checked out. It can even be a terrible existence, even from the freaking grave. | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/06/22 08:22 PM |
| 1 | It is over, it is doneA shelter for men? Well, my 1st thought is that that's great. But when I think of the reason for it, it's sad and crazy. So, it's a shelter for men who've been accused of rape, lost everything, and have nowhere to go? And most have been falsely accused? | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/06/22 08:18 PM |
| 2 | It is over, it is doneThen go through it again with someone you thought wouldn't be like that are you talking about a 2nd marriage that turned into the same thing happening? I think there should be a place where children of this process can share their stories. If the message can't get through with men/fathers, maybe the children's point of view and experiences would get some sort of attention. | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/06/22 08:16 PM |
| 1 | It is over, it is doneRight, "well, at least I'm not in jail or homeless" is a good outcome. I mean, something is seriously wrong here. And that's not including the trauma that happens to any children involved. Even after the luck of not being in jail and having a living space, most are broke, indentured, are turned into visitors to their children. If they're older they can't retire, especially in states with permanent alimony. I'm amazed at how long this has been happening and how deep the corruption can go. There a… | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/06/22 08:13 PM |
| 3 | one of big reason why men don't want to date anymoreformer marriage where I was routinely lectured about the patriarchy and how it was my fault as a man. This is nothing short of abuse but it is hard to rid myself of the mindset I hate this but am so glad I'm not the only one. I was responsible for all the "patriarchy" over all time. I was the face of it.. and I would pay the price. And still do, really. Divorce and leaving it on made the abuse worse and now the family court is an ally to my abuser. | /r/MensRights | 09/06/22 03:15 PM |
| 9 | one of big reason why men don't want to date anymoreWow, very true. See perjury in family court. False allegations are actually encouraged in family court as a strategy to gain an advantage. Ex partes based on DV claims, stealing children because "they aren't safe.." etc... This is because there's no accountability or negative effects for making them. There's no burden of proof, so bad behavior is actually a tactic. In a court of law none the less. What I've learned from the JD/AH hearing is that perjury and defamation "have a really, really, hig… | /r/MensRights | 09/06/22 03:03 PM |
| 6 | It is over, it is doneyou got out without facing jail time or being homeless, that's a major victory for all men This hits hard and is a truth and a warning that needs to be heard. | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/06/22 02:52 PM |
| 1 | The Biggest Groups Fighting Florida's Bill (SB 1796) Ensuring 50/50 Equal Shared Physical Custody & Ending Permanent Alimony Are.........The Republicans do not have men's best interest no matter what they say, but they'll act like they do by "treating" men (in this case, giving fathers equal custody). Thinking about this. So, could this be a ploy to pretend to care about father's equal custody and introduce legislation in order to lure left leaning males into the party? Is it all just a gimmick of sorts? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/06/22 02:28 PM |
| 3 | The Biggest Groups Fighting Florida's Bill (SB 1796) Ensuring 50/50 Equal Shared Physical Custody & Ending Permanent Alimony Are.........Do it! It's important. VERY important and left voices are needed. The reason it exist in the first place is because good people have sat back and not spoke up. You know, the MLK quote and all. It very well could help save the party. I don't know. One thing I've discovered is that a man will always be alone. For whatever reasons-it seems to be true. Women may be more social and have better support groups, get more support, benefits through the state. Especially if they have children. Males are be… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/06/22 02:24 PM |
| 1 | The Biggest Groups Fighting Florida's Bill (SB 1796) Ensuring 50/50 Equal Shared Physical Custody & Ending Permanent Alimony Are.........Weird,, not surprising but weird. I wonder what the impetus for the bill is. Do people talk about sexualities in school to 7 year olds and younger? I would bet kids don't even ask or pay attention. Is this type of thing a gender topic or sex type of topic? Personally I think it's an opportunity to give parents to sue public schools. They seem to want to shift to all education private education. Okay found it, I think: SB 1834: Parental Rights in Education: I think this is the wording that "Don't… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/06/22 02:05 PM |
| 2 | The Biggest Groups Fighting Florida's Bill (SB 1796) Ensuring 50/50 Equal Shared Physical Custody & Ending Permanent Alimony Are.........Man, it's all good. I agree with you on everything you're saying and I don't want to see him running in 2024. He doesn’t care about you, he doesn’t care about fathers, and if he’s doing something that is throwing you a bone it’s only so you’ll metaphorically make a deal with the devil - I've had to think a lot about this and what I've come up with is that he's doing it because of the religious stance on marriage. So it's possibly a play to that. But either route he took to get top that end doesn… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/06/22 02:22 AM |
| 1 | The Biggest Groups Fighting Florida's Bill (SB 1796) Ensuring 50/50 Equal Shared Physical Custody & Ending Permanent Alimony Are.........Good point. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/06/22 02:00 AM |
| 3 | The Biggest Groups Fighting Florida's Bill (SB 1796) Ensuring 50/50 Equal Shared Physical Custody & Ending Permanent Alimony Are.........If there is a good bill, THROW YOUR WEIGHT on a case by case basis I like this take because if we like a bill, regardless of person and party, we need allies to throw their weight too. I'm sure there's agreement on some issues w/Christian groups. But I'm under no illusions. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/06/22 01:59 AM |
| 1 | The Biggest Groups Fighting Florida's Bill (SB 1796) Ensuring 50/50 Equal Shared Physical Custody & Ending Permanent Alimony Are.........What does the "Don't say gay bill" mean? Maybe it's off topic but I haven't given that the attention to have an intelligent take. Are people in schools not allowed to say gay or something? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/06/22 01:56 AM |
| 1 | The Biggest Groups Fighting Florida's Bill (SB 1796) Ensuring 50/50 Equal Shared Physical Custody & Ending Permanent Alimony Are.........I wouldn't go that far. Man- so much extremism. I didn't expect a lot of these reactions. I'm learning. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/06/22 01:53 AM |
| 5 | The Biggest Groups Fighting Florida's Bill (SB 1796) Ensuring 50/50 Equal Shared Physical Custody & Ending Permanent Alimony Are.........Y’all fawning over DeSantis I have to respond to this by saying, I don't think anyone's 'fawning' over DeSantis. He just the one who's desk the bill is on. It would be the same discussion if parties were reversed. Ultimately, the name, the pay doesn't matter at all. It's the action (or in-action) that's being discussed. And not addressing this and screaming 'facist' and patronizing the ones that are in your own camp isn't productive. Can I ask you: what are your views on the topic- regardless of… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/06/22 01:51 AM |
| 1 | The Biggest Groups Fighting Florida's Bill (SB 1796) Ensuring 50/50 Equal Shared Physical Custody & Ending Permanent Alimony Are.........Holding hands with a fascist movement That's an extreme statement there. No nuance at all, which is a trait of Conservatives. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/06/22 01:45 AM |
| 2 | The Biggest Groups Fighting Florida's Bill (SB 1796) Ensuring 50/50 Equal Shared Physical Custody & Ending Permanent Alimony Are.........While I can't, and don't want to be able to disagree with you because it's valid point. I've had to face the fact that for whatever reason Conservatives are the only ones proposing bills in state legislatures that are promoting equal rights for men and promoting equal shared parenting for children to be with both parents equally. Especially in the family court setting. They are the ones calling out the hypocrisy to the JD/AH trial, the left watched the same trial and have spun it as a set-back f… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/06/22 01:44 AM |
| 1 | The Biggest Groups Fighting Florida's Bill (SB 1796) Ensuring 50/50 Equal Shared Physical Custody & Ending Permanent Alimony Are.........What's the professor's name? I think reframing the issue as actual equal rights by comparing real world experiences and stories to get the point across. When I talk equal shared parenting, I try to always mention it happens to moms too (although, not many). I also think we need to stay away from the divisiveness of M vs F, Dem vs Repub, White vs Black, etc... The lack of nuance is hurting us all and keeping us from uniting. It also doesn't help we exist in a 2-choice political system. If you fee… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/06/22 01:20 AM |
| 1 | The Biggest Groups Fighting Florida's Bill (SB 1796) Ensuring 50/50 Equal Shared Physical Custody & Ending Permanent Alimony Are........."Woke leftists need to stick their heads out of their asses and just come to terms with the reality - their bullshit is pushing everyone to the right." I agree and think this needs to be taken seriously. When people get pushed to the right they get exposed to those ideas we don't agree with. Young men are seeing what's happening to their father's, uncles, brothers, and male friends in family court and society in general. It doesn't resemble equal rights in any way and if the train going down the… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/06/22 01:12 AM |
| 1 | The Biggest Groups Fighting Florida's Bill (SB 1796) Ensuring 50/50 Equal Shared Physical Custody & Ending Permanent Alimony Are.........You're right. The 2 big issues they're against are Permanent alimony and 50/50 Equal Shared Parenting. The attorney for the Family Court Bar in Florida and the lobbyist for NOW AND a group called "The First Wives Club" are all lobbying very hard to get him to veto the bill. The comments have links to their actual words - but you can probably make a good guess from their station and positions in life as to why they wouldn't want the bill to pass. Title IV-D Child Support is a huge problem too. St… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/06/22 12:23 AM |
| 2 | The Biggest Groups Fighting Florida's Bill (SB 1796) Ensuring 50/50 Equal Shared Physical Custody & Ending Permanent Alimony Are.........Great research and insight. I found this really valuable, and I've been trying hard to keep up with all aspects of it. Even though I don't live in Florida. I'm glad you mentioned you got something out of it. I've been stunned since I've started down a path for explanation as to what's happened to me and my kids in family court. Eye opening to say the least. And I've always looked through my Left eye. Oh, here's a First Wives Advocacy Group. They aren't happy about permanent alimony possibly endi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/06/22 12:14 AM |
| 2 | The Biggest Groups Fighting Florida's Bill (SB 1796) Ensuring 50/50 Equal Shared Physical Custody & Ending Permanent Alimony Are.........Here's the bill: SB 1796. Have a look and let me know what you think. Opposition's view "Andrea Reid, who is a member of the Florida Bar’s Family Law Section, was for the bill before she was against it. "The biggest potential impact is that those contracts those folks entered into, the alimony awards that they were counting on, the budgets that they created based on those existing alimony awards, those are in severe jeopardy," said Andrea Reid. Here's an op-edpenned by her. Florida NOW represent… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/06/22 11:59 PM |
| 6 | The Biggest Groups Fighting Florida's Bill (SB 1796) Ensuring 50/50 Equal Shared Physical Custody & Ending Permanent Alimony Are.........Yea, I discovered the family court system is design and lobbied for by attorneys, for attorneys, and used judges (ex-attorneys) to extract as much wealth from their marks (mostly fathers) to enrich themselves. The system is designed for continuing conflict and incentives false allegations through a winner take all system. Really, the whole thing has taken the "identity" out of my politics. Big lesson for me. I get behind issues more than candidates at this point. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/06/22 05:11 PM |
| 4 | The Biggest Groups Fighting Florida's Bill (SB 1796) Ensuring 50/50 Equal Shared Physical Custody & Ending Permanent Alimony Are.........I appreciate this, thank you. I get it, though. It probably would've been my same reaction before I started my journey because of a family court disaster that is attempting to destroy me and my children. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/06/22 05:09 PM |
| 1 | The Biggest Groups Fighting Florida's Bill (SB 1796) Ensuring 50/50 Equal Shared Physical Custody & Ending Permanent Alimony Are.........Bill SB 1796 Somewhat updated post and resources to encourage it's passing. If you're so inclined. Edit: Changed linking to Reddit post to correct format per AutoMod. Hope I did it right. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/06/22 05:06 PM |
| 13 | The Biggest Groups Fighting Florida's Bill (SB 1796) Ensuring 50/50 Equal Shared Physical Custody & Ending Permanent Alimony Are.........When my 'family court journey' I've been on, once I found myself losing everything and my children, took me to spaces I'd never really go I discovered red states are the only states putting up legislation for Equal Shared Parenting which is my personal equal rights cause now. I've had to do some serious introspection, and this was really the goal of the post. You said it so much better..and simpler. But it's not like I'm all in for DeSantis or anything close to that. However, it's forced me to t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/06/22 05:02 PM |
| 3 | The Biggest Groups Fighting Florida's Bill (SB 1796) Ensuring 50/50 Equal Shared Physical Custody & Ending Permanent Alimony Are.........I guess this is what we should call 'identity politics'? I feel like we're being forced into thinking this way. All or nothing for either camp. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/06/22 04:54 PM |
| 3 | The Biggest Groups Fighting Florida's Bill (SB 1796) Ensuring 50/50 Equal Shared Physical Custody & Ending Permanent Alimony Are.........Maybe politics sometimes needs to take a backseat to actually furthering goals of egalitarianism. Seem really insightful and rings true. Hopefully now is an opportunity to make this known and try to make it happen. I really don't know how to though, other than bringing some sort of awareness in my small worldly footprint of maybe 5 real-world people... and Reddit..lol. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/06/22 04:48 PM |
| 2 | The Biggest Groups Fighting Florida's Bill (SB 1796) Ensuring 50/50 Equal Shared Physical Custody & Ending Permanent Alimony Are.........Glad I kept reading and saw this. Exactly what you're saying! Totally agree! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/06/22 04:46 PM |
| 1 | The Biggest Groups Fighting Florida's Bill (SB 1796) Ensuring 50/50 Equal Shared Physical Custody & Ending Permanent Alimony Are.........I think the all or nothing proposition being fed to us is hurting all of us and keeping us in a box. I'd never 'throw my lot' with DeSantis or any other person, really. But I will throw it on specific issues I care about and know have deeply affected me and my children. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/06/22 04:45 PM |
| 6 | The Biggest Groups Fighting Florida's Bill (SB 1796) Ensuring 50/50 Equal Shared Physical Custody & Ending Permanent Alimony Are.........Yup. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/06/22 04:43 PM |
| 4 | The Biggest Groups Fighting Florida's Bill (SB 1796) Ensuring 50/50 Equal Shared Physical Custody & Ending Permanent Alimony Are.........Eye opening for me too. Also, what other agendas are being pushed I don't know about and simply haven't realized. I'll give it to the Right- they're pretty much unapologetic and somewhat transparent about where they stand. Even if I disagree with almost everything. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/06/22 04:42 PM |
| 6 | The Biggest Groups Fighting Florida's Bill (SB 1796) Ensuring 50/50 Equal Shared Physical Custody & Ending Permanent Alimony Are.........Right, agree with that. Also, I'm learning that my nuanced thinking needs to be more ...nuanced. Issues are complex and I could be being lazy by so quickly compartmentalizing issue and just say "good or bad" then put it in the box. "Both are manipulative and abusive and crappy patents." - My personal situation has put me in a pull between the patents that's stretching me life taffy. The 2-party system I guess is to blame. But that sounds so trite to say. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/06/22 04:34 PM |
| 5 | The Biggest Groups Fighting Florida's Bill (SB 1796) Ensuring 50/50 Equal Shared Physical Custody & Ending Permanent Alimony Are.........I guess this is what you found inside when I asked to think about it. I understand your anger and frustration, but I assure that I've voted progressive my whole life. Imagine the weird ass juxtapositioning (if it's a word) I've had to go through to realize this too. When I found myself in the position most fathers dealing with family court are in, I went looking for answers, help, advice, and really compassion. Because losing your kids and everything while being broke and indentured for the rest… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/06/22 04:29 PM |
| 1 | it keeps getting worse...How is this allowed? The only answer I really have is this: 1) No one realizes that this can happen to a person in court. Until they realize it's happening to them...then it's too late. Fathers are too broke, tired, and indentured to be effective in combating it. 2) Good people sit back and do nothing because 'they don't want to get involved'. What's the quote? I'll paraphrase: 'bad things happen because good people don't act to stop it'. 3) The messaging. No explanation needed on this. See JD/A… | /r/Divorce_Men | 08/06/22 04:10 PM |
| 5 | Why so many young Democratic men think feminism is causing harmMale birth control will be a HUGE step towards this. | /r/MensRights | 08/06/22 03:56 PM |
| 2 | Woman jailed for 3 years over false rape claim against ex-boyfriendAnd let's make sure we have accountability in family court too. False allegations are a tactic used to gain the advantage in the winner take all court system. Attorneys encourage ex parte's, RO's, DV reports to use as a strategy. No burden of proof in family court, no judicial review, and no accountability for perjury and the false allegations that ruin children and parent's (mostly father's) lives. Accountability is needed to reform the system if there's to be any integrity at all. | /r/MensRights | 08/06/22 03:38 PM |
| 2 | it keeps getting worse...So true, good advice, and accurate. Unfortunately, if the issues are family related, they fall under the large umbrella of family law. I would argue it is exactly the wild west. It's amazing that all civil rights are lost in CIVIL court which includes family law. No burden of proof, no judicial review, no judicial checks and balances. The judges and attorneys are all office co-workers and allow the corrupt behavior by never reporting their fellow professionals to any board or authority. If one a… | /r/Divorce_Men | 08/06/22 05:08 AM |
| 19 | A couple get drunk and have sex and wake up the next morning. If the woman regrets or does not remember, what happened the night before, it's called rape. When the roles are switched, it's called child support. WTF?And let's not forget family court. Designed by attorneys, for attorneys and uses judges (ex-attorneys) to extract fathers from their children and any possible future wealth they'd be able to provide them. There's no burned of proof, no judicial oversight or review, false allegations go unquestioned, there's no accountability for perjury. The whole family court system seems to be predicated on the disposable male philosophy and financially incentivizes the behavior of the AH type in the winner ta… | /r/MensRights | 07/06/22 04:52 PM |
| 3 | it keeps getting worse...These stories get worse and worse too. The big trial that has opened many eyes has given me (and many others I'm sure) ideas about accountability, false allegations and perjury. These tactics have to be exposed in each specific case. Is there any recourse for perjury, making false statements? There has to be several crimes she is committing right now. These are criminal actions and I'm blown away at how many crimes are accepted where fathers are the victims in family court. Is there anything you… | /r/Divorce_Men | 07/06/22 02:11 AM |
| 2 | 3 Years and still dealing with Bitter and Angry Ex3 weekends per month Fri to Sun. Nothing during the week. It's as if I'm not allowed to be a part the kids school at all. Summer is 4 - 1 week (7 days) alternating weeks. However, the order says I must be with the children at all time during my visitation time. No sitter while I work, Nothing. Unless It's bring your kids to work week every other week i the summer. It's rough. It's like they want me to violate the order, turn down visitation, or just not work to pay the child support. Yes I have … | /r/Divorce_Men | 07/06/22 12:18 AM |
| 1 | 3 Years and still dealing with Bitter and Angry ExIt was submitted to the court. The judge ignored it. Good advice, though. | /r/Divorce_Men | 05/06/22 01:41 PM |
| 1 | 3 Years and still dealing with Bitter and Angry ExSingle moms that have been made single by themselves or the court system, The term should be "Co-Parent" or Single Co-Parent" if it's shared custody. There's too much incentive for them to be single and do in in way that destroys the father in the winner take all system of family court. | /r/Divorce_Men | 05/06/22 01:34 PM |
| 5 | 3 Years and still dealing with Bitter and Angry ExExactly- It's called post separation abuse. It's real and hearing all the stories it seems like it's very for fathers. The family court system aides in the abuse. It would be nice if there was a central location for fathers to tell their stories and there be some direction for therapy. That's when you find out that nobody but other fathers going through it really care. And they're too tired, abused, broke, and indentured to really offer any help. Men/fathers that haven't been through it and neve… | /r/Divorce_Men | 05/06/22 01:30 PM |
| 2 | 3 Years and still dealing with Bitter and Angry ExYep- AND PTSD from the court system just as much. I swear, losing any meaningful time with the kids is devastating and the worst part. A piece of me died in the courtroom. All I can do is focus on the little amount of time I have with them now. | /r/Divorce_Men | 04/06/22 12:59 PM |
| 2 | 3 Years and still dealing with Bitter and Angry ExHave you ever heard of this in a custody order? I realize fathers rarely get 50/50 custody, but is this normal or are my circumstances unusual? I feel like I'm viewed as some type of random outcast stranger or something. | /r/Divorce_Men | 03/06/22 08:55 PM |
| 3 | 3 Years and still dealing with Bitter and Angry ExSorry if I mis-understood you. This is a permanent custody order entered and signed off on by 2 attorneys and the judge after a multiple day custody hearing. It's not labeled a parenting plan. I did submit a parenting plan but it wasn't considered. Edit: Not OP, by the way. | /r/Divorce_Men | 03/06/22 06:37 PM |
| 8 | 3 Years and still dealing with Bitter and Angry ExThe judge in my case completely dismissed my well-researched professional parenting plan for high conflict situations. I was the only one of us that submitted one. It accounted for and had arrangements to preemptively avoid situations that cause future conflict. It wasn't even mentioned. Now, the conflicts are here and stressful on the kids while I continue to deal with the anger and coercion. I'm convinced the attorneys (mine included) purposefully left it out of the order so there would be the… | /r/Divorce_Men | 03/06/22 05:37 PM |
| 11 | 3 Years and still dealing with Bitter and Angry ExThese stories just never get better. You have my empathy. Especially in light of the big trail that happened, false allegations are the tactic used by abusers. Only in this family court system can the business contract of marriage be broken and ruin the person who did nothing wrong while at the same time enable the abuser, who will have help from attorneys (including their own) and judges, to continue the abuse of their victim. I honestly don't see how it's possible to be able to trust anyone en… | /r/Divorce_Men | 03/06/22 05:25 PM |
| 12 | Depp/Heard Verdict, Civil Rights for Men/Fathers, & The Future of The LeftI'm really glad you took the time to respond. And respond thoughtfully and honestly. I think dialog is the most important thing and I think it's insightful of you that you strive to keep a balanced mind. I feel the same way and the current info-culture we live in where everyone has an agenda and is actually incentivized to amplify the message by the platforms being monetized, causes the method of the messaging to be geared toward our emotions and not toward rational, logical thought processes. I… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/06/22 03:23 AM |
| 2 | Depp/Heard VerdictHead to the little blue birdy thingy... | /r/Divorce_Men | 02/06/22 07:03 AM |
| 1 | Depp/Heard VerdictTry #MenToo and go spread it in family court. | /r/Divorce_Men | 02/06/22 06:59 AM |
| 4 | Depp-Heard verdict live: Johnny Depp wins defamation case against Amber HeardBetter go preach this in family court. Remember she got away with all of this in the family court system. Better get in those circles so future generations of men and fathers have a chance at equality. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/06/22 06:55 AM |
| 16 | Depp-Heard verdict live: Johnny Depp wins defamation case against Amber HeardCelebrity, millions of dollars, a crack team of attorneys, an impartial judge (rare), and cameras in a courtroom to get actual justice, even if too late. The damage she did to him, his children, and all aspects of his life can't really be undone. Let's not forget all of her false claims went completely unquestioned in family court. It was only her op ed that gave JD a way to try and set the record straight. The of all of the poor men and fathers in family court who've lost their children and liv… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/06/22 06:47 AM |
| 6 | A victory against the Feminist ideology: Depp WINS! Amber Heard FOUND GUILTY of defamation (Johnny Depp has WON his defamation case against Amber Heard. Heard was found guilty of defamation on ALL counts by a unanimous jury)!This is important and glad you said it. Perjury and false allegations should get you jail time. If there was actual accountability that didn't take millions of dollars, a crack team of attorneys, and a jury in a court room with cameras to achieve, you'd see a lot less of it in family court. There'd be a lot less men, fathers, and children's lives destroyed. | /r/MensRights | 02/06/22 06:26 AM |
| 1 | Men deal with narcissism as much as women. My ex is a covert narcissist.I'd like to read your book and any others you suggest. Feel free to DM if like, or just reply. I've been thinking about writing a book too, Then I think of how many men/fathers have their own book to write. There needs to be a permanent repository of the stories and how family court aided the behavior that destroys lives. A lot can be learned through the sharing of these experiences that can serve as a valuable warning to current and future generations. | /r/Divorce_Men | 02/06/22 01:10 AM |
| 5 | Men deal with narcissism as much as women. My ex is a covert narcissist.Fitting you'd post this today. As today is World Narcissistic Abuse Day is a global event that takes place annually on June 1, intending to raise awareness about the effects and signs of narcissistic abuse. Often, the patterns and impacts of narcissistic abuse are not as clear-cut due to its intangible nature and lack of research. I think you'll find a pretty sympathetic group here. It's the others that haven't dealt with it or even know what it is that won't understand. Most, if not all in here… | /r/Divorce_Men | 02/06/22 01:02 AM |
| 26 | Johnny Depp Wins On All Counts and 15 Million DollarsTo ANYONE that has been a victim of false allegations, especially in family court, take this energy and inertia and use it. If you've lost custody of your kids or became a visitor to them If you've has to fight actual criminal charges or know someone who has. If you've lost ANYTHING due to false allegations. SPEAK UP NOW. Even if the allegations weren't SA, even if they weren't abuse, if they were not true and affected you or your case in any way- SPEAK UP! Bring awareness to this trend that has… | /r/MensRights | 01/06/22 07:52 PM |
| 3 | My GF is very hot and cold. Sometimes she is very sweet...but other times controlling. I've been with her for 10+ years and she wants to get married and have kids. Was anyone else in a similar situation before they got married?#1 RUN! #2 If you can't get away, ask her why she needs to be married. If answer is anything other than she doesn't need to..see #1 #3 Do NOT get her pregnant, see # 1 She's already trying to trap you. A father loses their children (or any meaningful time to develop a true parent/child bond) if it doesn't work out. #4 She just wants your baby batter. Nothing in your details says this has a chance at lasting. It's all a relationship of convenience. I suggest just seeing #1 and find another relati… | /r/Divorce_Men | 23/05/22 03:57 AM |
| 3 | "You are the ones minimizing what SHE did". Two excellent easy-going bloggers from Canada calling out and pin-pointing the hypocritical treatment in the media of the Depp-Heard case, and the absurd criticism in the media of the moral response of tens of millions to lies and abuse by a woman.Wow- I hadn't thought of this idea. I think the family court system should identify by Plaintiff and Defendant. A genderless hearing in the papers. I'm not sure of how the logistics would work, but I really like the concept. It would bring the focus to fact and proof while helping to eliminate bias. Good idea if there's a way to implement it. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/22 01:39 AM |
| 1 | Alimony Reduction in CaliforniaVery telling. The Netherlands' current family court model is absolutely worth pushing for in the US. It drastically takes away the winner take all incentive that creates family conflict which destroys children caught in the middle and indentures one parent into poverty. | /r/Divorce_Men | 20/05/22 05:29 PM |
| 5 | Alimony Reduction in CaliforniaI'll leave this here. If you feel like this is an unacceptable scenario you can help. Even if you don't live in Florida, you can still sign and spread the word. We all know someone in this position or who's been reduced to a visitor of their children. There need to be awareness of permanent alimony states and a real effort to end this. OP has my empathy and activism has to be on the table so we can save future generations. Even if we aren't directly affected, we ALL are still affected negatively… | /r/Divorce_Men | 19/05/22 01:50 AM |
| 2 | What's Your 'Johnny Depp' Story?Well, you have my permission to speak the truth and proclaim out-loud the reality of what's happened to fathers for decades. Lawyers know it too. They laugh in men/father's face (some mother's too), incentivize families to decimate themselves, damage our children, destroy future generations for their own financial gain. It's by no means a secret. The real issue is why isn't there more of a united effort and front to stop it. It's only a bunch of small little factions of parents working in their … | /r/MensRights | 19/05/22 01:43 AM |
| 2 | What's Your 'Johnny Depp' Story?This is a good point. It speaks to a system set up for conflict because it equates to a big payday for attorneys. More conflict = more court time = more need for lawyers = cha Ching for them. The divorce industry is worth billions of dollars every year, by design. It benefits attorneys, is lobbied for with rules and laws by attorney lobby groups, uses judges (ex-attorneys) to use and abuse their unchecked judicial power to ensure the mark (mostly fathers) are turned into visitors of their childr… | /r/MensRights | 17/05/22 09:48 PM |
| 2 | What's Your 'Johnny Depp' Story?Odd you mention this. Yesterday I heard someone say 6 generations. And that's once a correction is in place. So that clock hasn't even started. | /r/MensRights | 17/05/22 07:29 PM |
| 1 | What's Your 'Johnny Depp' Story?What's the name of the emotional disorder? Is it a personality disorder like Cluster B or an actual emotional thing? I'm sorry that happened to you and you made me think back to all of the times I just wasn't in the mood or wanting to and "was talked into it" or "convinced to do it" even after stating I didn't want to. Sometimes several times over. I've never considered it a form of rape until now, really. I even just accepted it as not the actual act, myself. But looking back it is and I wonder… | /r/MensRights | 16/05/22 12:11 AM |
| 2 | What's Your 'Johnny Depp' Story?My biggest concern is my children falling victim to the behavior and/or actually learning the behavior then not realizing how wrong it is and using it. The more I see though, it seems there's a lot who have no idea and are always the victims that just continue the cycle towards men. | /r/MensRights | 15/05/22 11:58 PM |
| 2 | What's Your 'Johnny Depp' Story?Right. It seems like it's an ego thing too. It's pretty common to say a man is gay if they refuse her advances. Yours seems to have taken it a step further and tried to take some sort of revenge. That is really sick. I'm wondering how many lives have been destroyed because the claims were made in the past when there wasn't technology like cell phones, cameras, small recorders, etc... to ultimately prove the allegations false. Unfortunately, there seems to be zero consequences for the false alleg… | /r/MensRights | 15/05/22 11:50 PM |
| 2 | What's Your 'Johnny Depp' Story?It's a good thing you were able to see it coming. I think most guys just have no idea of how they get conned. The whole family court system incentivizes them being clever and cunning. It's the difference between having to work and do something productive in life and doing nothing to get a monthly couple of checks. | /r/MensRights | 15/05/22 11:37 PM |
| 1 | What's Your 'Johnny Depp' Story?I never considered the behavior toward a child of a husband/father. Unbelievable. And the family court system seems to make sure she got a nice payday for doing it to you and your dad. All of that hard work deserved lots of $$. And you had to deal with Stepmother issues too? I imagine any mental health issues cropped up because of both these people in your life and the Romanian woman probably played on the bi-polar using here experience to trigger you more. She seems very cruel. My 1st thought i… | /r/MensRights | 15/05/22 11:34 PM |
| 1 | What's Your 'Johnny Depp' Story?Woah.. You were able to do this without a attorney? Good. I'm surprised the cops told her to cease and desist. It's just straight slander, but I guess it's hard in this day and age (from what I hear) to have those, and defamation, charges stick. Did you witnesses go to the police too? Or did they file an affidavit? Imagine all of the guys who weren't able to get ahead of the game like you did. They get charged, then they're broke and/or in jail. Life ruined. Registered sex offender, no employmen… | /r/MensRights | 15/05/22 11:24 PM |
| 4 | Financially how bad is it?This sounds about right. This is the family court divorce industry created by state reps (ex-attorneys), for attorneys, and implemented by judges (ex-attorneys) that have unchecked judicial power to extract as much wealth from parents (mostly fathers) and future generations to enrich themselves. There's no such thing as burden of proof so false allegations against men are the norm. Equal amounts to live on is a joke as the default position is that the mother is expected to live the same lifestyl… | /r/Divorce_Men | 13/05/22 03:38 AM |
| 1 | What's up with people like this?Right. I've been delving into Street Epistemology for these reasons. It a Socratic-like method of asking questions so they come to their own conclusions. I really want to know it better because it can really help a conversation not be so adversarial when you're ultimately questiuoning someone's judgement. And yes, NO body wants that. Especially when it's not sought after. | /r/Divorce_Men | 13/05/22 12:23 AM |
| 1 | What's up with people like this?If someone doesn't ask for advice you need to realize that giving it anyway is rarely well received, even if they are polite about it. While I agree with this to some degree. You simply don't know what you don't know. If you don't even know the questions to ask, or that there are questions to ask, how do you ever find out vital information that you need for your well-being? | /r/Divorce_Men | 10/05/22 11:17 AM |
| 1 | What's up with people like this?Mother culture, state representatives, attorney lobbying groups, attorneys, judges (ex-attorneys), the wedding industry, the divorce industry, Title IV-D child support system have all done a number on us over the years. Like just about everything else, follow the money. | /r/Divorce_Men | 10/05/22 11:09 AM |
| 1 | Divorce that won't endHow does one handle seeing/exchanging their kids with a protection order? | /r/Divorce_Men | 10/05/22 10:48 AM |
| 3 | Divorce that won't endOh and threw in some falsified domestic abuse claims just for good measure. This has to be called out. It's the reason JD is going through the defamation trial. To help victims such as you. All is well until divorce and then suddenly men/fathers are abusers. There needs to be consequences and accountability for false allegations. | /r/Divorce_Men | 10/05/22 10:45 AM |
| 3 | Everyone here needs to be mentally prepared for Johnny Depp to lose and Amber Heard to win.I f nothing fundamentally changes, especially in the family court system, this will only be a short-lived spotlight that highlighted a 'rare and unfortunate situation'. If this message isn't amplified and transferred into action in the family court arena, it will be a small blip on the radar. Everyone will just move on to the next thing and men and fathers will be sitting in their same pocket. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/05/22 10:30 AM |
| 2 | Everyone here needs to be mentally prepared for Johnny Depp to lose and Amber Heard to win.I've been amazed at all of the horror stories of abuse and coercion I've heard from men and fathers since the start of this trial. Almost every man I know has had a story or 2 they would never have shared had it not been for this trial. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/05/22 10:26 AM |
| 4 | Everyone here needs to be mentally prepared for Johnny Depp to lose and Amber Heard to win.This is the point. You're so right. It's about the children and the message we send our children if we don't correct this behavior and the continued biased against fathers and men in family court. He doesn't need the money. I believe he is doing this for 1. His children and 2. As a public service to help all of the male victims of this abuse and the corrupt family court system. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/05/22 10:23 AM |
| 2 | Everyone here needs to be mentally prepared for Johnny Depp to lose and Amber Heard to win.I agree completely and feel it's our responsibility to take this message, amplify it continuously and transfer it to the expose the bias and these same behaviors that are used in family court that destroys men and children. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/05/22 10:16 AM |
| 8 | Everyone here needs to be mentally prepared for Johnny Depp to lose and Amber Heard to win.A saint, an ultra-famous star, AND have enough money to hire a team of lawyers to fight false allegations in a very public arena. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/05/22 10:13 AM |
| 8 | Victory!There's attention being given to men that have been abused, false allegations towards men and how damaging it is. There's attention to the fact that not all men are abusers and not all women are victims. The fact that claims are just believed, investigated, and accepted without any proof is being highlighted. This is progress but far from victory. The prevailing attitude is still very much alive in our society and especially the family court system. This trial needs to be amplified and expanded … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/05/22 05:34 PM |
| 4 | #MenToo is trending on Twitter because of the Depp/Heard Trial...I agree but I don't think JD is doing this to actually win a case and get financially compensated. This is for 1. To clear his name so his children understand he's not an abuser. 2. As a public service to shine a light that all men are not abusers, and all women are not victims. He's doing it so our society understands how easily false allegations happen, are believed, and ruin people (mostly men/fathers). It's amazing all the stories that are being told about female coercion and abuse towards m… | /r/MensRights | 05/05/22 02:53 PM |
| 3 | Roe v WadeCan you give a TLDR on the legal strategy(s) you're referring to? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/05/22 05:15 PM |
| 6 | Roe v WadeI'm considering the fact that a big factor in pro-life opinion is to expand the pool of fathers to extort for Title IV-D funding. The more opportunities there are for income the better. A woman who has exercised her choice to terminate a pregnancy means one less chance to use the usual family court corruption to make one of the parents a mark. It's a win for states because they get to add to their coffers. It's a win for attorneys because more parents equal more chances of litigation in family c… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/05/22 05:12 PM |
| 4 | Offer to chat with old friend getting divorcedYes, and do it once per week. He is alone, lonely, and is/will be dealing with trauma you wouldn't wish on anyone. and is about to be abused by several different factions. Even the one in court that he'll have to pay a lot of money to for the privilege of abusing him. He will find out a truth that most men learn to late. He isn't equal, cared about, and has no civil rights in family court. You're a great person for thinking of him during this time. | /r/Divorce_Men | 03/05/22 04:40 AM |
| 38 | Roe v Wade likely overturnedUm, when is the last time a Supreme Court opinion / ruling was 'leaked'? As the kids say: "Sus" | /r/MensRights | 03/05/22 04:28 AM |
| 2 | What marriage taught me about Men's RightsFeminist AND the Florida Board of Family Court Attorneys. Go figure. Really -that tells you all you need to know about how positive the bill is for fathers, families, and their children. "To provide a biased one-sided incentive for mothers to take things to court for economic gains might work as a great business model as you will have a lot of cases to handle making money for all involved in this so called legal system, but it is surely not with the interest of the children in mind whatever the … | /r/MensRights | 01/05/22 10:53 PM |
| 1 | What marriage taught me about Men's RightsIt's appreciated and I'd encourage you to express and tell your story to people that can spread it far and wide and ones that may have some ability to change it. | /r/MensRights | 01/05/22 06:05 PM |
| 1 | What marriage taught me about Men's RightsIf you've been through it, I'd like to point you to this. It may be too late for many, but we can still help future generations. | /r/MensRights | 01/05/22 05:38 PM |
| 2 | What marriage taught me about Men's RightsSad to say, I don't think this is reason for low marriage rates. I think the reason is simply horrible economics and wealth gap. I'd bet most young men have no idea of the perils of divorce and how the family court system will ruin fathers/men and destroy their children. | /r/MensRights | 01/05/22 05:37 PM |
| 2 | What marriage taught me about Men's RightsThank you for sharing your story. It's so important to help others realize that the family courts actually incentivize this behavior. "She tried to alienate me from my father when i have been a toddler. I wish i had adult like control in myself all my life due to her fuckin manipulations and psychological abuse." - Have you thought about letting state reps and legislatures know your story? Or even Op Eds in newspapers. I think it's so important to tell the story of the children who are victims o… | /r/MensRights | 01/05/22 05:33 PM |
| 3 | What marriage taught me about Men's RightsShe got the goldmine, he got the shaft. | /r/MensRights | 01/05/22 05:17 PM |
| 1 | What marriage taught me about Men's RightsTrue. And I'll point you to this. It may be a way to help if you've been through it or know someone who has. | /r/MensRights | 01/05/22 05:14 PM |
| 1 | What marriage taught me about Men's RightsThis is true. There needs to be burden of proof and civil rights must be upheld in state courts. | /r/MensRights | 01/05/22 05:07 PM |
| 0 | What marriage taught me about Men's RightsRight now, I think this is closest piece of legislation there is. It's not all you want, but it's a step closer. Especially to your #3. SB 1796 is a Florida bill that's attempting to end permanent alimony & ensure presumed equal 50/50 physical child custody for parents. Here's the change.org petition. Sign/Chip In/Share with the ones who have been through it, take 10 minutes to help out if you can. | /r/MensRights | 01/05/22 05:04 PM |
| 12 | What marriage taught me about Men's RightsThe Florida legislature has passed and sent a bill (SB 1796) to the governor to sign. In it is specifically says "A presumption that both parties will have a lower standard of living after dissolution of the marriage.". It's crazy this even needs to be said, but here we are. The bill also presumes equal shared 50/50 custody and ends permanent alimony. If you can, share the info and support the bill, even i you're not in Florida. | /r/MensRights | 01/05/22 04:53 PM |
| 2 | HERE IT IS!! CONFIRMING ONCE AGAIN FEMINISTS WILL BLAME ANYONE BUT THEMSELVES FOR THEIR OWN POOR BEHAVIOUR: Psychologist Explains Why Amber Heard’s Psychiatric Diagnoses Should Be DiscountedYou know, that's a point and angle I had not considered. The more time I spend in spaces like family law, the more I learn the behavior is very, very common. So much so it really shouldn't be associated with the rarity of a disorder. | /r/MensRights | 01/05/22 12:52 AM |
| 2 | HERE IT IS!! CONFIRMING ONCE AGAIN FEMINISTS WILL BLAME ANYONE BUT THEMSELVES FOR THEIR OWN POOR BEHAVIOUR: Psychologist Explains Why Amber Heard’s Psychiatric Diagnoses Should Be Discounted#3. Yes! r/StreetEpistemology | /r/MensRights | 01/05/22 12:46 AM |
| 1 | What are some not so obvious red flags us younger men should look out for?How many long-term friends they have. Any childhood friends are still around? How they treat friends or family when there are disagreements. Do they take friends to court, or treat family members horribly and never get over grudges? This is how you'll be treated when you fall out of favor. | /r/Divorce_Men | 29/04/22 06:27 PM |
| 12 | r/whitepeopleTwitter is full of misandryMy exact thoughts. I've been doing my best to talk about this trial and I always bring it to family court. Family court encourages and financially incentives the Amber Heard-like abusers. It's tailor made for them. Edit: I'd even says mothers and judges taking away children from fathers and/or making them every other weekend visitors to fathers is an epidemic situation. | /r/MensRights | 28/04/22 11:42 PM |
| 2 | Who's side are you on?This case needs to be tied to family court and the fact men/fathers always have to defend against false accusations by spouses just like Amber Heard. The system is tailor made for the personality of abusers like her to take advantage of the fact it is biased towards men and it actually financially incentivizes them to lie and this causes children to become visitors to their fathers and extract as much wealth as possible from future generations while forcing men into indentured servitude. When ta… | /r/MensRights | 28/04/22 11:05 PM |
| 1 | Update: Florida Bill SB 1796 Ending Permanent Alimony & Ensuring Presumed Equal 50/50 Physical Child Custody for ParentsStill on his desk I believe, Here's an update from CordellCordell on April 25th. He's been signing quite a few bills here lately it seems. Maybe it's at the bottom of the pile. Don't know. There's also mention of legislation in Texas, Ohio, and Missouri. Spread the word if you can. | /r/Divorce_Men | 28/04/22 04:38 PM |
| 1 | Don't put her name on the house title if you can get away with it.Wow- How did that turn out? You really have my empathy for that. Had to be devastating. It's such a coincidence how all of these fathers suddenly turn into rapists and abusers as soon as there is a divorce hearing. Really uncanny, huh. I'm using the Amber Heard / Depp trial to bring the focus to family court. It's a good opportunity to shine a light on the false allegations and how it destroys fathers' lives, as well as their children AND the false allegations are made by the ACTUAL abuser. | /r/Divorce_Men | 28/04/22 04:31 PM |
| 1 | Don't put her name on the house title if you can get away with it.All of our stories are amazingly similar. The judge said that she actually "had a right to keep my child away from me". As if I'd done something or was a criminal. The institution is made by attorneys, for attorneys, and uses ex attorneys (judges) to enrich themselves by destroying and extracting as much wealth as possible from fathers and future generations. | /r/Divorce_Men | 28/04/22 04:26 PM |
| 2 | Don't put her name on the house title if you can get away with it.Right. Well, mine had a lot of single mom friends who had just gone through the process. I feel like that was part of her legal team. All the "single moms" who realized a lot of the tricks and told her how to play it show she was the greatest of all victims. They encouraged her. All of our stories have so much in common and I'd warn any husband/father to beware of their spouse's single mom friends. This tactic is now a way of life, a career move to get a free check for many years along with a ho… | /r/Divorce_Men | 27/04/22 03:54 PM |
| 9 | Don't put her name on the house title if you can get away with it.Such a good call. My situation was not as fortunate. She helped build my credit so we could get a house. Her credit was hopeless. I was so happy thinking: "wow, we could have an awesome family, be homeowners- like a real family. This person is awesome, I married a great person. I'm so lucky to have this smart person on my team. We make a great team..our kids our lucky. Wow, she did a great job. I worked my ass off, sacrificed time with the kids but and now we have a nice house, bought with my re… | /r/Divorce_Men | 26/04/22 09:22 PM |
| 2 | "It all sounds funny, but it hurts too much to laugh"Right, I commented on that post. After I posted I scroll through and see his post hours earlier. I went and bought a lottery ticket because the odds were too high to ignore. Do you think I should I just delete my post? | /r/Divorce_Men | 20/04/22 02:47 PM |
| 2 | Been seeing sponsored ads for this all day, makes me sick thinking of all the gloating, glorification of discrimination, and thinly veiled hate speech that’ll go totally uncriticised in the mainstream if this event goes aheadWe agree. | /r/MensRights | 20/04/22 02:44 PM |
| 2 | “She got the goldmine… I got the shaft! … They split it right down the middle And then they gave her the better half.” -Jerry ReedWell this is odd. I just posted this song. I scroll down and see your post. Woah. I'm not sure what the odds are but Imma gonna go buy a lottery ticket. .....I mean, I'm broke enough too and need the win. Well, wait a minute, I wouldn't get to keep anything any way. It all sounds funny, but it hurts too much to laugh. | /r/Divorce_Men | 20/04/22 04:38 AM |
| 2 | Been seeing sponsored ads for this all day, makes me sick thinking of all the gloating, glorification of discrimination, and thinly veiled hate speech that’ll go totally uncriticised in the mainstream if this event goes aheadIt's safer for men this way. No false allegations, no 'changing of the mind the next day, then claim sexual assault. No chance of meeting someone and getting tricked into being a father. Nobody will be there to take advantage of and drain their finances. No false stalking accusations. I'm okay with this. | /r/MensRights | 20/04/22 03:56 AM |
| 1 | My uncle is paying $1,700 per week in alimony (Massachusetts, USA). Now he can't retire before 65, as he planned for his whole life.Right. It allows the state to support someone who doesn't need it by allowing them to hide their income. I'll say it again. It's really odd how the IRS encourages hiding on income. Also, this reminds me a premise that's a part of the family court system and one that the Florida Bill 1796 addresses: The notion that a family has to remain at the 'same financial status' as during the marriage. This forces one ex-spouse to compensate the other to maintain the lifestyle that was led before the family… | /r/MensRights | 16/04/22 02:38 PM |
| 1 | Child Support RUINED my life... I lost. (as a millionaire)Can you please link to this? | /r/MensRights | 15/04/22 06:40 PM |
| 2 | Child Support RUINED my life... I lost. (as a millionaire)That's really depressing. There really are no limits. Even of you think state laws and statutes put limits on these things, it's ALWAYS up to the judge. Even court oders mean nothing if a judge will not enforce. There's no judicial review or oversight in family court. Judicial abuse is rampant. The whole system is set up by attorneys (state reps), for attorneys, and uses judges (ex-attorneys) to extract as much wealth from future generations and a parent (mostly fathers) by making them the mark … | /r/MensRights | 15/04/22 06:33 PM |
| 3 | Child Support RUINED my life... I lost. (as a millionaire)The amount of "illegal billing" that must go on must be crazy. Right, Its called "wallpapering" - So many useless charges to pad the invoice. There's a whole host of tricks they use. | /r/MensRights | 15/04/22 06:28 PM |
| 2 | Child Support RUINED my life... I lost. (as a millionaire)Something a lot of people don't realize unless they're neck deep into the family court system, and broke, and indentured, is the fact judges very often force the parent (mostly fathers) to pay the other ex-spouses legal fees. This incentivizes the other parent to always go to court because they will not have to pay their legal fees, and it's a way to financially hurt or destroy the other parent. This was designed by attorneys and attorney's lobbying groups as a way to keep the conflict going and… | /r/MensRights | 15/04/22 06:25 PM |
| 2 | AlimonyI'm glad you did. I've been keeping up with it and been pretty frustrated because updates say only a handful of people have signed the petition. The next milestone is 5,000 signatures and it's been steady at 3,500(ish) for 2 weeks since I've been pushing it. So many people are in the family court trap or know someone who's been a victim of it - other than all of the children taken away from a parent or reduced to visitation time, and I'm amazed how this issue cannot get traction. I really apprec… | /r/Divorce_Men | 15/04/22 01:45 PM |
| 3 | AlimonyI'm also going to chime in here and say this: "judges can decide whatever" is the truest statement. It doesn't matter in family law what attorney blog post say, it doesn't matter what people think can happen based on previous experiences, it doesn't even matter what state statues/laws say. It doesn't even matter what a court order says. Judges can do whatever they want. There's no judicial oversight, there's no judicial review. One might say the appeals process is judicial review, but that's a r… | /r/Divorce_Men | 15/04/22 01:41 PM |
| 7 | Child Support RUINED my life... I lost. (as a millionaire)I haven't thought about that movie in years. I couldn't watch it again if I wanted to at this point in my nightmare. Seeing the kid would remind me of mine and it'd destroy me. And the outcome being drastically different from 90% of outcomes these days wouldn't help. There has to be a way to organize under one tent about this So many victims of the family court system should be able to make current and future generations aware. | /r/MensRights | 14/04/22 01:20 PM |
| 1 | My uncle is paying $1,700 per week in alimony (Massachusetts, USA). Now he can't retire before 65, as he planned for his whole life.Yep. It looks like it all changed in 2017 with that big ole tax cut bill that was going to help so many people. The Tax Cuts & Jobs Act of 2017. Mind blowing how suddenly this much money isn't tracked by the IRS. Suspicious. | /r/MensRights | 14/04/22 03:07 AM |
| 23 | Child Support RUINED my life... I lost. (as a millionaire)It's good to see the video has 65k plus views. Most videos I come across have only tens or maybe a hundred or so views and have been up for years. Despite how widespread and egregious of an issue this is, it gets limited attention. There are so many fathers, so many father's groups, so many new spouses of father's who've lost their children, so many victims of the family court system that I'm always amazed how little outrage there is. Especially when the most important issue is the child's loss … | /r/MensRights | 14/04/22 03:05 AM |
| 35 | BBC statement on men being trapped in ukraineNot a single male interviewed in the first article. Here's an interesting quote: "The men want to stay, fight, and give blood. They are heroes." | /r/MensRights | 14/04/22 02:16 AM |
| 1 | My uncle is paying $1,700 per week in alimony (Massachusetts, USA). Now he can't retire before 65, as he planned for his whole life.Great link, Love the calculators. Thanks! It's 2012, but it gets the idea across. One thing I've figured out: There's calculators and what attorneys say. Then there's what judges do. No judicial oversight, no review. Sketchy. I agree with you. It needs to be rethought. I don't think we should think in terms of how much uncle has leftover. Something that's not factored in is how much generational wealth that would be passed on to children is being stolen by the process. Stolen by attorneys who've… | /r/MensRights | 13/04/22 06:23 AM |
| 0 | My uncle is paying $1,700 per week in alimony (Massachusetts, USA). Now he can't retire before 65, as he planned for his whole life.Because good people who it doesn't affect don't help. Like most injustices. If you want to help in some way: Please Support: End Permanent Alimony & Ensure Equal Shared Parenting 50/50 Physical Custody | /r/MensRights | 12/04/22 10:30 PM |
| 1 | My uncle is paying $1,700 per week in alimony (Massachusetts, USA). Now he can't retire before 65, as he planned for his whole life.Alimony = her. Child support = children. Complete and separate issues, but only technically. The amount of time the children are with the mother effects both alimony and child support. It can vary by state but basically, it's a large pay day all around. | /r/MensRights | 12/04/22 10:27 PM |
| 3 | My uncle is paying $1,700 per week in alimony (Massachusetts, USA). Now he can't retire before 65, as he planned for his whole life.Prenups do not have the power you think they do. There's no way the divorce industry is going to allow prenups to work. Attorneys devised the system that's in place and there's no way they or their attorney friends (judges) will allow there to be no conflict to they -and the state- don't get paid. It's a 60 billion dollar per year industry. | /r/MensRights | 12/04/22 10:25 PM |
| 6 | My uncle is paying $1,700 per week in alimony (Massachusetts, USA). Now he can't retire before 65, as he planned for his whole life.I don't think men realize the actual details and how incentivized the family court system is set up to make them the mark. Sure, they've heard "don't get married" but the culture has seemed to have kept this secret. It makes sense when you find out who the beneficiaries are. See states via federal grants and attorneys. I think it's changing now, but most men/fathers have no idea of what's happened to them and why until they're neck deep in it, broke, indentured, and too emotionally wrecked and p… | /r/MensRights | 12/04/22 10:21 PM |
| 1 | My uncle is paying $1,700 per week in alimony (Massachusetts, USA). Now he can't retire before 65, as he planned for his whole life.I can't think of any funds in the US that are treated this way. Suddenly the IRS doesn't care about large sums of money being exchanged? Not taxable income? Somethings rotten here. | /r/MensRights | 12/04/22 09:51 PM |
| 1 | My uncle is paying $1,700 per week in alimony (Massachusetts, USA). Now he can't retire before 65, as he planned for his whole life.Well said. I would include that attorney's who've created and exploited this system get rich, rich, rich in the process of the conflict the state and those same attorneys create. | /r/MensRights | 12/04/22 09:50 PM |
| 3 | My uncle is paying $1,700 per week in alimony (Massachusetts, USA). Now he can't retire before 65, as he planned for his whole life.If you haven't seen the details of it and want to help in some way: Florida Bill SB 1796 | /r/MensRights | 12/04/22 09:46 PM |
| 3 | My uncle is paying $1,700 per week in alimony (Massachusetts, USA). Now he can't retire before 65, as he planned for his whole life.We can resist the usual suspects. We just have to take a few minutes and act..and share.. and encourage others to act too. End Permanent Alimony & Ensure Equal Shared 50/50 Physical Child Custody | /r/MensRights | 12/04/22 09:45 PM |
| 1 | My uncle is paying $1,700 per week in alimony (Massachusetts, USA). Now he can't retire before 65, as he planned for his whole life.Common story it seems. Maybe pass this along to him and help yourself. We can still try to do something to help family and friends who've been destroyed by the family court system. End Permanent Alimony & Ensure Presumed Equal 50/50 Physical Child Custody | /r/MensRights | 12/04/22 09:43 PM |
| 5 | My uncle is paying $1,700 per week in alimony (Massachusetts, USA). Now he can't retire before 65, as he planned for his whole life.Incredible. I think the more economic disparity there is, the more we see these tactics. This has been done for decades, but the way the family court corrupt laws are now, there's never been more incentive to do this. Combine these laws with the desperation of so many and you have an incentivized recipe for destruction of so many lives. You have my empathy and I'm glad you're on year 17. I'm really sorry you haven't seen your child if you've wanted to for all these years. | /r/MensRights | 12/04/22 09:40 PM |
| 3 | My uncle is paying $1,700 per week in alimony (Massachusetts, USA). Now he can't retire before 65, as he planned for his whole life.It's only accepted because good people sit back and do nothing because it doesn't pertain to them at the moment. I bet most men/fathers had no idea of the details about the family court divorce industry before they got married. No lawyer to get into the contract, but one or more needed to get out. There's something anyone who keeps up with this sub can do. End Permanent Alimony & Ensure Presumed 50/50 Shared Equal Custody | /r/MensRights | 12/04/22 09:25 PM |
| 2 | My uncle is paying $1,700 per week in alimony (Massachusetts, USA). Now he can't retire before 65, as he planned for his whole life.Not sure where this comes from. Here's what I found: "The taxation of alimony on federal tax returns recently changed because of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017 (TCJA). Today, alimony or separate maintenance payments relating to any divorce or separation agreements dated January 1, 2019 or later are not tax-deductible by the person paying the alimony." IRS It's odd how alimony and child support are funds the IRS just doesn't care about? Is there any other form of income or payment where this i… | /r/MensRights | 12/04/22 09:13 PM |
| 1 | My uncle is paying $1,700 per week in alimony (Massachusetts, USA). Now he can't retire before 65, as he planned for his whole life.I agree with you, and it is a complex issue. You bring up good points as well as evidence (even if anecdotal) that there are exceptions. You got me thinking and I went looking for data and statistics on alimony cases in different states. I really couldn't find anything at all. Do you have a database or link you can share so I can get a better idea? I don't think the consensus is that if one spouse sacrifices a career there shouldn't be a financial for helping them re-establish. I think rehabilit… | /r/MensRights | 12/04/22 09:08 PM |
| 3 | My uncle is paying $1,700 per week in alimony (Massachusetts, USA). Now he can't retire before 65, as he planned for his whole life.The money is for the state, not the children. Also, there's absolutely no way to track if the money is spent on the child. In 2022 it would be simple to have a card to where expenses are at least tracked so there can be data used to determine a best way to implement the system. Serious question: What would be a good plan for execution of the system? | /r/MensRights | 12/04/22 08:49 PM |
| 1 | My uncle is paying $1,700 per week in alimony (Massachusetts, USA). Now he can't retire before 65, as he planned for his whole life.Since everyone here is familiar with the tactics used by the family court system to extract as much wealth from men/fathers and their future generations, I want to leave this here. Florida Bill SB 1796 Ending Permanent Alimony & Enacting Presumed 50/50 Child Custody Even if you don't live in Florida, you can still help. Instructions and details in the link. We can hang out here and complain all we want, but there has to be some work done to actually fight the biggest opponents of any real change… | /r/MensRights | 12/04/22 08:44 PM |
| 2 | AlimonyHey there. If you're in Florida, I'm going to leave this here for you. Help if you can. Florida SB Bill 1796 | /r/Divorce_Men | 12/04/22 05:52 PM |
| 2 | This Podcast was Very Enlightening - AFCCGlad you listened all the way. I think that these podcasters need to silo the issue. It always goes down a Conservative rabbit hole. Which is fine and I get it. But it spreads much needed numbers really thin. Lots of Libertarian rants and Sovereign Citizens. I didn't know anything about the AFCC. that was my takeaway. I also wasn't aware of Michael Volpe. He sems like a good ally. The podcaster's main theme, which I really did agree with, was. "Why doesn't the media cover any of this?" Hes's rig… | /r/Divorce_Men | 11/04/22 11:45 PM |
| 1 | AlimonyIt's different in every state, but the amount of time a child spends with the other parent is factored in as well. Also, in Florida, alimony is tied directly to the Title IV-D program. This increases incentive for the state to extract as much wealth from you as possible, beyond child support. Find out the relationship in your state to determine whether court would be an option, I can say that men/fathers are doomed in court 99% of the time. The "negotiations" are usually done by putting your bac… | /r/Divorce_Men | 10/04/22 07:00 PM |
| 1 | AlimonyIs child support involved too? | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/04/22 11:46 PM |
| 4 | AlimonyIt takes no attorney to get into the marriage business contract and one or more to get out, and you still lose in the deal. It's the biggest scam going the last 50 years. | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/04/22 11:45 PM |
| 1 | How come women can love their fathers but if a guy loves his mom it's a red flag and a mommy's boy?Right. The term "mommy's boy" has always been a term for weakness. | /r/MensRights | 08/04/22 02:00 PM |
| 2 | How come women can love their fathers but if a guy loves his mom it's a red flag and a mommy's boy?This is an excellent observation and I bet really accurate. You can tell how you'll be treated as a partner by paying attention to how others treat the people that are important in their life. Especially parents. I wish I'd realized this years ago before marrying. So many signs were there that I just overlooked. My ex always went to war with her parents over many issues. Now, here I am in a war with her too. | /r/MensRights | 08/04/22 01:55 PM |
| 2 | How come women can love their fathers but if a guy loves his mom it's a red flag and a mommy's boy?I just stumbled on this. Have you seen this, or have you heard of this person? I've never heard a such a detailed breakdown of the Title IV D system. I can't believe it has so few views. This lady is an absolute hero. Center For Parental Responsibility I love the name of the organization. I think it's just in MN but this is the energy needed to make any progress. | /r/MensRights | 08/04/22 01:49 PM |
| 2 | Update: Florida Bill SB 1796 Ending Permanent Alimony & Ensuring Presumed Equal 50/50 Physical Child Custody for ParentsThe 'First Wives" group, I'd never heard of them. Well, they have benefited more than anyone, I bet. Well, other than attorneys. Sounds right. These groups claim the bill would be 'retroactive", which of course isn't true, to scare. I can't believe how the family court system has been able to extract wealth, eliminate any civil rights, and destroy people for so many years. Why isn't there a large, coordinated effort to stop this and have meaningful reform? I know the lobby groups are powerful bu… | /r/Divorce_Men | 08/04/22 01:32 PM |
| 10 | Update: Florida Bill SB 1796 Ending Permanent Alimony & Ensuring Presumed Equal 50/50 Physical Child Custody for ParentsWell, not there yet. It has to be actually signed into law and there's some pretty well funded opponents. For example, lawyers. The Florida Family Bar Association is up in arms and really fighting it. Weird huh... lawyers not wanting legislation reducing parent an ex-spouse conflict. It's as if they make a little less money if this were to become law. | /r/Divorce_Men | 07/04/22 09:51 PM |
| 2 | Update: Florida Bill SB 1796 Ending Permanent Alimony & Ensuring Presumed Equal 50/50 Physical Child Custody for ParentsWell, not there yet. It has to be actually signed into law and there's some pretty well funded opponents. For example, lawyers. The Florida Family Bar Association is up in arms and really fighting it. Weird huh... lawyers not wanting legislation reducing parent an ex-spouse conflict. It's as if they make a little less money if this were to become law. | /r/Divorce_Men | 07/04/22 09:46 PM |
| 1 | I feel worthless as a man because of conscription (Rant)Yea, I understand that and I'm sorry it is like this. But you care and now know how people think. So, the idea now is to figure out how to help them come to their own conclusion, without being adversarial cause that'll get you nowhere fast, that will bring them around to the fact everyone needs to be treated equally. It's been drummed into our brains for so many generations that this is just how it is. It's a programming that has to be undone. They don't even realize themselves. I don't have imm… | /r/MensRights | 06/04/22 12:27 AM |
| 3 | I feel worthless as a man because of conscription (Rant)"Because the true family is only mother and children, anybody can be a father" - My main Teacher This is the prevailing belief, especially in the family court system. Everyone's 'teacher' teaches this philosophy. The perils that face men in the family court system are never made known prior to marriage are purposefully hidden and aren't as obvious as what should be commonsense concerns such as conscription, circumcision, etc... Even if the fact that men are expendable is never given a second tho… | /r/MensRights | 05/04/22 03:25 PM |
| 6 | Female Suspects Stabs Deputy in Neck when trying to help her after crashOh, she's definitely getting a 6-month unsupervised probation period at the final court hearing. | /r/MensRights | 05/04/22 12:25 AM |
| 1 | extreme stories about men having to pay child support even though the child isn't hisThis was a good source for me when I found it. It also tells you how to look up the info I think you're wanting to see. Title IV-D | /r/MensRights | 04/04/22 10:36 PM |
| 1 | extreme stories about men having to pay child support even though the child isn't hisThis helped me understand: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRTUCOxANWk | /r/MensRights | 04/04/22 10:35 PM |
| 2 | extreme stories about men having to pay child support even though the child isn't hisThis helped me understand it and has sources so you can look up the free money your state gets for having the program. Title IV-D I share this whenever I can. | /r/MensRights | 04/04/22 10:34 PM |
| 1 | The hate campaign has already begunWell said. | /r/MensRights | 04/04/22 08:38 PM |
| 3 | Help to Make Florida the Next Equal Shared Parenting State & End Outdated Alimony Laws. Here's How to Help Even if You Don't Live in Florida. Bill SB 1796 / HB 1395 Headed to Governor.When I first was made aware of the bill it was by the groups that think 50/50 physical custody is okay and they were making a big deal about the retro-active aspect. When I read the bill it said nothing about that. It won't be implemented until June 2022. Looking at these groups, it makes sense why they want to spread mis-information. I would think the older bill could've been modified to not be retro-active, but what do I know. To me, none of this should even need legislation. I mean, it takes … | /r/Divorce_Men | 04/04/22 08:37 PM |
| 2 | what to expect in mediation meeting #1 re:alimonyTry to show the court she has a reputation for lying under oath (not that it matters so much in family court). This is a very true statement. No burden of proof and never any accountability for out-right false statements. | /r/Divorce_Men | 04/04/22 06:41 PM |
| 1 | The hate campaign has already begunAh, yea that's pretty slimy. Not just from a pregnancy standpoint but STDs real. I would think that almost all men and women can get behind male BC. Is this not the case? I'm pretty out of the loop on most common viewpoints from individuals on this issue. | /r/MensRights | 04/04/22 05:27 PM |
| 3 | Help to Make Florida the Next Equal Shared Parenting State & End Outdated Alimony Laws. Here's How to Help Even if You Don't Live in Florida. Bill SB 1796 / HB 1395 Headed to Governor.Good Deal. I was on hold for 20 mins then it kicked to a voice mail. I left one but will call back to talk to a person. I'm impressed they wrote it down. Thanks for sharing the other petition. I have to say the title that "Presumptive Shared Parenting is bad for Children" is telling. We also have more competition. The Florida Bar Association. Yea, that should tell you all you need to know, huh. I'm cross posting this to other subs. | /r/MensRights | 04/04/22 05:20 PM |
| 1 | Texas Supreme Court Case Where they Heard Arguments to Allow a Boyfriend to Have Rights to a Child.I like the NPO. No chapter that's active in my state, though. I like that they frame the debate in terms of the children losing parents as opposed to Fathers losing children. Although both are true, children have no say, even more so than fathers (well, let me think that one through a bit more) but I'm looking for allies. For the most part I will frame family court issues in terms of 'parents' and 'children'. We know it happens to fathers but framing it this way creates adversary that divides. T… | /r/MensRights | 04/04/22 03:26 AM |
| 1 | The hate campaign has already begunI agree with the last statement, completely. Can you tell me what 'stealthing' is in this context? I'm not familiar. | /r/MensRights | 04/04/22 03:13 AM |
| 2 | The hate campaign has already begunI stand sit corrected. | /r/MensRights | 04/04/22 03:11 AM |
| -4 | The hate campaign has already begunThat's not the reason. Here's the reason: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRTUCOxANWk Share if you can. It will help with the understanding of what and why. | /r/MensRights | 03/04/22 05:13 PM |
| 4 | The hate campaign has already begunAs this option becomes more and more viable be on the lookout for these campaigns. I'm sure many groups and possibly states will hire PR firms to develop scare tactics and place more wedges issues between men and women to make male birth control non- viable. You see, the states have a very large financial stake in males NOT having unmitigated control of their reproductive rights. It's called Title IV-D funding. This video really helped me understand so much. And yes, I know about condoms and abs… | /r/MensRights | 03/04/22 05:09 PM |
| 1 | Texas Supreme Court Case Where they Heard Arguments to Allow a Boyfriend to Have Rights to a Child.I agree and there may be some hope. Kentucky and (maybe) Ohio is next. Don't forget Florida Bill SB 1796 too. Bill headed to governor's desk. This makes 3 actual improved state's legislation out of that Wiki list. These are the only bills with teeth and even then, judges can use their 'judgement' to subvert. I do agree that we've a few steps from the Tender Years Doctrine and this is progress. I am still skeptical and think as long as Title IV-D is in place there will always be loopholes used by… | /r/MensRights | 03/04/22 04:14 PM |
| 3 | Is there really a 50% chance of this happening?The problem is that the system is set up for failure. Women are actively encouraged and rewarded for divorce This is important. Incentivized for financial gain and coupled with the fact that the process has been redesigned by state reps, with help from attorneys, for attorneys to extract as much wealth from family providers as possible. It uses judges (former attorneys) and their unchecked judicial abuse of power to ensure conflict, loss of your civil rights, and subvert any protective measures … | /r/Divorce_Men | 03/04/22 03:47 PM |
| 5 | Is there really a 50% chance of this happening?This read just like a biography of my marriage. Stunning how the stories are all so similar. Only small details change. | /r/Divorce_Men | 03/04/22 01:12 PM |
| 1 | Texas Supreme Court Case Where they Heard Arguments to Allow a Boyfriend to Have Rights to a Child.This is not true. Please post a link to your source (s). You are border line mis information here. | /r/MensRights | 03/04/22 12:01 PM |
| 3 | $3.7k a month too much?Never thought about the "award" terminology. It's like "custody". What a terrible word for raising a child. | /r/Divorce_Men | 02/04/22 12:41 AM |
| 1 | $3.7k a month too much?You have my empathy and I'm sure many other's in this space. And him talking to a lawyer really won't help. Family court lawyers are not loyal to their clients, they have to be loyal to the court. Providers are the mark. | /r/Divorce_Men | 02/04/22 12:39 AM |
| 3 | $3.7k a month too much?Counting the days... lol.. I get this. It's tragic though, that this system has you wishing away days - even though you really don't want to. | /r/Divorce_Men | 02/04/22 12:34 AM |
| 2 | Texas Supreme Court Case Where they Heard Arguments to Allow a Boyfriend to Have Rights to a Child.And the wording of the laws are what really counts. Jut because it's 'presumed' doesn't mean a judge has to rule that way. And they don't. | /r/MensRights | 02/04/22 12:14 AM |
| 2 | Texas Supreme Court Case Where they Heard Arguments to Allow a Boyfriend to Have Rights to a Child.Nailed it. | /r/MensRights | 02/04/22 12:02 AM |
| 3 | Texas Supreme Court Case Where they Heard Arguments to Allow a Boyfriend to Have Rights to a Child.Ah, nice. Glad you went searching. Let's quickly look at the wording (this is how they deceive you into thinking there are actually "shared custody laws". Notice all of the states with the wording "presumed". This means nothing. It is always up to the judge, and they have unchecked judicial power that even appellate courts don't overturn. These laws are lip service to create the illusion they're doing something, because states have to have a Judicial Mandate to provide Maximum Physical Custody S… | /r/MensRights | 02/04/22 12:01 AM |
| 2 | Texas Supreme Court Case Where they Heard Arguments to Allow a Boyfriend to Have Rights to a Child.Exactly. Free money (Grants) from the feds means you have to have justification for the program. Therefore, UN equal shared physical custody parenting time. If you were the family provider, you are the mark. To find out the amount of the GRANT is for your state's Title IV-D funding, go to: www.taggs.hhs.govTracking Accountability in Government Grants System 1) SEARCH -> ADVANCED SEARCH 2) to the left (ISSUE DATE FY) check box 2021 (for last year's figures) 3) Below that you'll see: OPDIV and Pro… | /r/MensRights | 01/04/22 11:42 PM |
| 2 | Texas Supreme Court Case Where they Heard Arguments to Allow a Boyfriend to Have Rights to a Child.If unmarried fathers don't do as well as married fathers, that's horrendous. Married fathers don't do well at all. 50/50 equal shared parenting laws are modern - You would think this is true, but there are NO judicial mandates for judges to provide maximum equal 50/50 time with each parent. There are some positive movements in KY, TX I believe, and FL has the bill that will hopefully get signed by the governor. The Florida Bar Association is REALLY fighting it. Imagine that. Just because we hear… | /r/MensRights | 01/04/22 10:54 PM |
| 1 | Asset Protection?Hopefully will be the game-changer that female birth control pill was. | /r/Divorce_Men | 01/04/22 06:55 PM |
| 1 | Asset Protection?Solid plan...until a child comes along. | /r/Divorce_Men | 31/03/22 04:05 PM |
| 1 | Asset Protection?I'd take that bet if my divorce had left me that much. | /r/Divorce_Men | 31/03/22 04:04 PM |
| 1 | Asset Protection?I understand how you feel that way, but my experience has been different, and I warn all that I can. The family court system is set up by attorneys, for attorneys, and run by judges (former attorneys) to extract as much wealth as possible. When you say ask an attorney you are sending him to the very wolves that designed the current system. When you read blog post on law websites it's the same. Nothing I, or many, many, others have experienced has been anything remotely to what lawyers (mine espe… | /r/Divorce_Men | 31/03/22 04:02 PM |
| 2 | Asset Protection?You're right about the judge. Also, I've found that attorneys in other fields do not understand the corrupt family court system and will usually just call it "the wild west" and not claim that they can protect you in any way. They will tell you to "speak to a family court attorney about that". The family court system has no oversight, no review, judicial bias, and makes any provider the mark while stripping you of all civil rights. All legally and very well designed. Nowhere is safe from family … | /r/Divorce_Men | 31/03/22 03:56 PM |
| 1 | Asset Protection?As soon as you sign a marriage license none of your planning will help. It may delay the inevitable making it more of an expensive process that you'll end up paying for in every way. IE, her attorney and accountant she hires, your attorney, your time, etc.. Then there's child support. Let's say you don't officially marry and you have a child and your name's on the birth certificate and the 'union' goes south. There's a very good chance you will end up with your child 2 or 3 weekends per month. Y… | /r/Divorce_Men | 31/03/22 03:48 PM |
| 2 | Would anyone like to join an MRA discord server I run?I think this is a very important concept. While men's right absolutely supersedes left vs right, female vs male, Republican vs Democrat it should be pointed out that if a person aligns with progressive values, they should care about Men's Rights issues. Especially as they apply in family court. What the Left fails to realize is that young men, and some women, are observing what's happening to their friends, their fathers, their uncles in the gender biased family court system that treats them and… | /r/MensRights | 29/03/22 02:27 PM |
| 3 | The reaction to the Oscars is downright disgusting and very telling of what kind of person someone isEvery single message this story contains seems to be exactly the opposite of what we try to teach our kids. | /r/MensRights | 29/03/22 01:10 AM |
| 1 | TakersNot OP but recommend him do the same and realize she's made/making plans behind the scenes and talking to her friends that have done it before to get her legal advice. I've been through my situation- the first parts anyway- and am now forced into my position with what seems to be no recourse. The judge will hear any new issues that come up. There's no way to get away from a family court judge. Ask to recuse = will refuse and then hear the issue. Not good. This system works outside of checks and … | /r/Divorce_Men | 28/03/22 07:14 PM |
| 1 | TakersGood words. I appreciate it. Yes- been using OFW for a while, the messages were read in court in a multiple day hearing. many witnesses all testifying on my behalf. This all had ZERO effect on this judge, and I was demoted from father to visitor. Not only that, but the judge's ruling also has empowered her to continue to do this because she knows there's a judge on her side and a system that will force me to pay her attorney's fees each time we go to court. But keep ideas coming because I need t… | /r/Divorce_Men | 28/03/22 04:31 PM |
| 12 | The reaction to the Oscars is downright disgusting and very telling of what kind of person someone isI think this example teaches our young men that violence is okay if you're 'sticking up for your wife' and that female hair loss is a serious health issue while male hair loss is something that can be joked about. I wonder young women think about this. The reactions supporting Will Smith and lack of repercussions advocates for the acceptance of verbal and physical assault. His apology included everyone except his victim. Our kids will be watching the reactions of role models for the next few day… | /r/MensRights | 28/03/22 02:58 PM |
| 1 | TakersI wish this were true in my case. Temp custody orders meant nothing. They are only as good as the judge that will enforce them. Unfortunately, I see too many stories other than mine where Fathers don't really count as a parent and visitation/custody orders will not be enforced if the mother violates. But I agree there needs to be a court order in place and he needs to go the legal route before he comes home and she's taken the kid to her parents, filed an exparte and says he isn't safe to be aro… | /r/Divorce_Men | 28/03/22 02:21 AM |
| 2 | From a younger guy, thank you to everyoneIt's a hard truth that's painful emotionally and then devestating financially. | /r/Divorce_Men | 27/03/22 04:18 AM |
| 2 | From a younger guy, thank you to everyoneGood point and thanks for pointing that out. | /r/Divorce_Men | 26/03/22 08:13 PM |
| 4 | From a younger guy, thank you to everyoneRight! I'd always heard it, always heard complaining and griping. Then there's the child support issue and we've been trained and brought up to think if a father is questioning child support "he doesn't want to pay for his kid". Then the term 'deadbeat dad" arose. No, it's IS a racket and I wish I was educated about the divorce industry and the way it incentivizes divorce for a mother with children. | /r/Divorce_Men | 26/03/22 04:46 PM |
| 8 | From a younger guy, thank you to everyoneWow. Thanks for saying this. I think one of the big reasons for telling the stories is that after the devastation takes place you want to warn others. When you experience the family court abuse that follows the dissolution of marriage one not only wants to vent, but feels a certain responsibility to ensure future generations, parents, husbands, know and protect themselves. There's a personal side to the issue, a legal side, and a side involving children that everyone needs to know. Future grandm… | /r/Divorce_Men | 26/03/22 04:32 PM |
| 1 | Florida Bill SB 1796: Presumes 50/50 Custody: Ends Permanent Alimony - Family Court Attorneys are NOT Happy. It's Headed to the Gov's Desk. Get Activate Fathers! Call, Email, Write! Pass it Along. Right Now!Oh, okay. Retroactive. Yes, that would really be the just thing to do. | /r/Divorce_Men | 25/03/22 02:51 PM |
| 1 | How do y’all feel about ever getting married again?You can do everything the same w/out signing the business contract. I don't think I ever sent the marriage license in for any sort of privilege now that I think about it. | /r/Divorce_Men | 24/03/22 05:55 AM |
| 1 | How do y’all feel about ever getting married again?You signed another marriage license? | /r/Divorce_Men | 24/03/22 12:47 AM |
| 4 | How do y’all feel about ever getting married again?lol-- "A qualified family attorney". They're all qualified. The family court divorce industry is designed by attorneys, for attorneys and uses the help of judges (former attorneys) to extract as much wealth from you and your children as possible. They are all office co-workers, they know each other- for years most of the time. I used to feel just like you and I'm not sure what your experience is with the family court system, but I'd like to share these in case you're not familiar with them. Shar… | /r/Divorce_Men | 24/03/22 12:42 AM |
| 1 | How do y’all feel about ever getting married again?I think you'd have to live in different places for maybe a month (or some amount of time) to reset the clock. | /r/Divorce_Men | 24/03/22 12:28 AM |
| 2 | How do y’all feel about ever getting married again?"Wealth Exchange Program" - Accurate. Stealing....because I'm broke....from the program. | /r/Divorce_Men | 24/03/22 12:27 AM |
| 1 | How do y’all feel about ever getting married again?Can't you still have a ceremony to proclaim your 'love' for everyone? I think what gf is saying is this: "Why are you punishing me by not getting a marriage license?". Other than taxes, what's the real difference. Culture (wedding, marriage, attorneys, diamond industry) has purposefully led us to believe people have to be marries to have a truly happy life. I feel duped by many people and entities..lol. | /r/Divorce_Men | 24/03/22 12:25 AM |
| 4 | How do y’all feel about ever getting married again?"In 1972, E. Mavis Hetherington and colleagues started a 20-year Longitudinal Study of Divorce and Remarriage. Hetherington followed 450 families who had children that were 4 years of age and lived in Virginia. Today, some of those children are adults and have also been divorced or remarried." I googled. My name is not Google: https://www.itwlaw.com/effects-of-divorce-on-children-separating-myth-from-science Mavis Hetherington | /r/Divorce_Men | 24/03/22 12:20 AM |
| 2 | How do y’all feel about ever getting married again?Stopping by to giving you kudos for being a good human with your response. | /r/Divorce_Men | 24/03/22 12:14 AM |
| 3 | How do y’all feel about ever getting married again?I think marrying is dangerous and irrelevant. It's simply a business contract that's designed to devastate fathers and children while enriching the state, attorneys, and mothers. You don't need an attorney to enter it, but you need 1 or 2 to end it, really. It has nothing to do with love, devotion, and declaring it all out loud. That can be done without a marriage license. Maybe you're asking how we feel about experiencing love again. I can only say that for me, I'm very guarded and really can't… | /r/Divorce_Men | 24/03/22 12:09 AM |
| 1 | Florida Bill SB 1796: Presumes 50/50 Custody: Ends Permanent Alimony - Family Court Attorneys are NOT Happy. It's Headed to the Gov's Desk. Get Activate Fathers! Call, Email, Write! Pass it Along. Right Now!It looks like the bill also has a provision for equally splitting child support. That is huge. Spread the word on this. I never thought I'd see the day child support even would get a mention. Woah. | /r/Divorce_Men | 23/03/22 02:26 AM |
| 1 | Florida Bill SB 1796: Presumes 50/50 Custody: Ends Permanent Alimony - Family Court Attorneys are NOT Happy. It's Headed to the Gov's Desk. Get Activate Fathers! Call, Email, Write! Pass it Along. Right Now!Appreciated and done! I like the visual of the timeline Maryland's bill tracking website has so you can see where the legislation is on the track. Link to the Baltimore Sun: Ask us to Investigate Anything. I imagine a few requests from friends and family members to investigate a couple of aspects of family court would be hard to ignore. Good to share. https://www.nationalpopularvote.com/send-letter-editor-newspapers-your-state is handy for those rainy days when you and your friends and family me… | /r/Divorce_Men | 23/03/22 12:35 AM |
| 1 | Florida Bill SB 1796: Presumes 50/50 Custody: Ends Permanent Alimony - Family Court Attorneys are NOT Happy. It's Headed to the Gov's Desk. Get Activate Fathers! Call, Email, Write! Pass it Along. Right Now!I'm not sure what you mean? | /r/Divorce_Men | 22/03/22 10:19 PM |
| 2 | Florida Bill SB 1796: Presumes 50/50 Custody: Ends Permanent Alimony - Family Court Attorneys are NOT Happy. It's Headed to the Gov's Desk. Get Activate Fathers! Call, Email, Write! Pass it Along. Right Now!Can you link to that bill? | /r/Divorce_Men | 22/03/22 10:19 PM |
| 1 | Florida Bill SB 1796: Presumes 50/50 Custody: Ends Permanent Alimony - Family Court Attorneys are NOT Happy. It's Headed to the Gov's Desk. Get Activate Fathers! Call, Email, Write! Pass it Along. Right Now!I'm not sure about these exact details, but I can send you here to the Florida bill tracker. https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bills/2022 You can also set up a google alert. Here a searchable database that you can use to search by any state and any bill, its status, and where it is in the process and who's responsible for the bill and its sponsors, so you'll know who to contact to push. Please share it with as many as possible - once per month: Searchable Database of State's Legislation Please se… | /r/Divorce_Men | 22/03/22 10:17 PM |
| 2 | Florida Bill SB 1796: Presumes 50/50 Custody: Ends Permanent Alimony - Family Court Attorneys are NOT Happy. It's Headed to the Gov's Desk. Get Activate Fathers! Call, Email, Write! Pass it Along. Right Now!Yea, that stood out to me too. It's huge. Also - a presumed lower standard of living when a divorce takes place- The current theme is the family must maintain its current financial status which is impossible after splitting a household and paying for attorneys. It forces one parent to not only financially make up the difference but do it with a severe disadvantage. | /r/Divorce_Men | 22/03/22 03:26 PM |
| 3 | Florida Bill SB 1796: Presumes 50/50 Custody: Ends Permanent Alimony - Family Court Attorneys are NOT Happy. It's Headed to the Gov's Desk. Get Activate Fathers! Call, Email, Write! Pass it Along. Right Now!I think this is an important observation and creating political infighting is a tactic used in every important issue where there is a special interest in making a lot to keep any meaningful change from taking place. It's not limited to the divorce industry, and we all need to be aware of it and not waste time and energy on anything other than making the needed change happen. Well said. | /r/Divorce_Men | 22/03/22 03:21 PM |
| 1 | Florida Bill SB 1796: Presumes 50/50 Custody: Ends Permanent Alimony - Family Court Attorneys are NOT Happy. It's Headed to the Gov's Desk. Get Activate Fathers! Call, Email, Write! Pass it Along. Right Now!I would assume, but I don't know. The years of the culture, incentives, and industry have trained us to think marriage is an ultimate life goal. There are so many parents that have no idea about the perils of divorce. Can you link to where you get those stats? I can't seem to find non-biased stats, other than census data, anywhere. I think the current financial pressures are lowering the marriage rate but I'm not so sure it's lower due to there being awareness of the devastation caused by the di… | /r/Divorce_Men | 22/03/22 03:13 PM |
| 2 | Florida Bill SB 1796: Presumes 50/50 Custody: Ends Permanent Alimony - Family Court Attorneys are NOT Happy. It's Headed to the Gov's Desk. Get Activate Fathers! Call, Email, Write! Pass it Along. Right Now!I get it and at this point, it's not as shocking as it used to be. You're right. It's all about a system set up by attorneys, for attorneys that use judges (former attorneys) to extract as much wealth from as many generations as possible. It's frustrating that people with different views on life get the privilege of the fourth amendment and certain parents don't. Everyone has been sold a false narrative by attorneys and a privileged establishment to keep the system status quo to keep making the … | /r/Divorce_Men | 22/03/22 07:49 AM |
| 2 | Florida Bill SB 1796: Presumes 50/50 Custody: Ends Permanent Alimony - Family Court Attorneys are NOT Happy. It's Headed to the Gov's Desk. Get Activate Fathers! Call, Email, Write! Pass it Along. Right Now!I think what was meant to be said was something like: "the constitution allows for freedoms of individuals. Even ones that I don't agree with, and their children are able to have their parents in their lives a significant amount of time and semblance of a family. Yet some parents and children are deprived of what should be a constitutional protection". Thank you for speaking up and heavily supporting presumption of equal shared parenting. There's a lot of pain and past trauma is spaces by a vari… | /r/Divorce_Men | 22/03/22 07:26 AM |
| 7 | Florida Bill SB 1796: Presumes 50/50 Custody: Ends Permanent Alimony - Family Court Attorneys are NOT Happy. It's Headed to the Gov's Desk. Get Activate Fathers! Call, Email, Write! Pass it Along. Right Now!This is a great point, and I hadn't looked at it from this point of view. End the Patriarchy, Fathers can raise children too. | /r/Divorce_Men | 22/03/22 06:55 AM |
| 3 | Florida Bill SB 1796: Presumes 50/50 Custody: Ends Permanent Alimony - Family Court Attorneys are NOT Happy. It's Headed to the Gov's Desk. Get Activate Fathers! Call, Email, Write! Pass it Along. Right Now!Would it be possible to follow up the follow with a call and share? Florida Governor's Office · Phone: (850) 488-7146 400 S Monroe St, Tallahassee, FL 32399 Email the Governor | /r/Divorce_Men | 22/03/22 06:53 AM |
| 4 | Florida Bill SB 1796: Presumes 50/50 Custody: Ends Permanent Alimony - Family Court Attorneys are NOT Happy. It's Headed to the Gov's Desk. Get Activate Fathers! Call, Email, Write! Pass it Along. Right Now!You have my empathy. I am sorry this happened. But I will say you can probably sleep at night doing everything you could. It's a twisted system when it forces you to sacrifice what you have for your children, to have your children just half the time. I hope some of your close friends and family know your story and your struggle and would be willing to speak up for you. You could ask them if you haven't already. Florida Governor's Office · Phone: (850) 488-7146 400 S Monroe St, Tallahassee, FL 32… | /r/Divorce_Men | 22/03/22 06:48 AM |
| 3 | Florida Bill SB 1796: Presumes 50/50 Custody: Ends Permanent Alimony - Family Court Attorneys are NOT Happy. It's Headed to the Gov's Desk. Get Activate Fathers! Call, Email, Write! Pass it Along. Right Now!Odds are you may be right. Better give him a call just in case. Florida Governor's Office · Phone: (850) 488-7146 400 S Monroe St, Tallahassee, FL 32399 | /r/Divorce_Men | 22/03/22 06:41 AM |
| 2 | Florida Bill SB 1796: Presumes 50/50 Custody: Ends Permanent Alimony - Family Court Attorneys are NOT Happy. It's Headed to the Gov's Desk. Get Activate Fathers! Call, Email, Write! Pass it Along. Right Now!Your exactly right. The response is really telling, and it'd be helpful to help others understand what you know. To the ones that haven't been involved in it, aren't neck deep, broke, and indentured from it simply don't understand. All the future grandmothers who'll be robbed of time with grandchildren have no idea. They need to hear the reality and the damage it causes to already damaged families. Got to try: Florida Governor's Office · Phone: (850) 488-7146 400 S Monroe St, Tallahassee, FL 323… | /r/Divorce_Men | 22/03/22 06:40 AM |
| 3 | Florida Bill SB 1796: Presumes 50/50 Custody: Ends Permanent Alimony - Family Court Attorneys are NOT Happy. It's Headed to the Gov's Desk. Get Activate Fathers! Call, Email, Write! Pass it Along. Right Now!Challenged excepted. | /r/Divorce_Men | 22/03/22 04:55 AM |
| 1 | Feeling like a failure after divorceThat sounds spot-on to me and it's a huge credit to you for taking advantage of what's before you while being grateful. If you daughter only learns this, you've been more than successful. | /r/Divorce_Men | 21/03/22 04:05 AM |
| 2 | Feeling like a failure after divorceI didn't know these details of your story. It's amazing how all of our stories are similar in the basics of the process. Empathy to you my friend. You know, life is a lot of years and your daughter's young. Too young to experience any trauma from it. That is HUGE. | /r/Divorce_Men | 20/03/22 09:50 PM |
| 11 | Feeling like a failure after divorceListen to these comments. You have everyone's empathy here in this sub. The family court system incentivizes her to do what she's doing and has been planning for a year most likely. Her lawyer is well versed in the tricks and has most likely developed a plan with your wife. There will be plenty of time to emotionally process but now you need to focus on your child and how you will live and provide the safe, loving environment for your child while you work. What you do now and how aware you are o… | /r/Divorce_Men | 20/03/22 09:37 PM |
| 1 | Ex-Wife Abusing Ex Parte after DCF Claim Against RoommateLol, well I can't say I'm glad I know it or take any pride in it because it means I've experienced/am experiencing it and the other parent of my child has the personality type that has caused me to learn these heartbreaking truths. I'm do different than most in this sub. The stories are all the same with differing degrees of suffering. Not only by the fathers, but by their children. I also try to help in some way anyone dealing with know what to expect and how it's set up. I've become somewhat o… | /r/Divorce_Men | 20/03/22 03:00 PM |
| 1 | Ex-Wife Abusing Ex Parte after DCF Claim Against RoommateProbably better off that way but remember; divorce attorneys love high conflict cases. It equals more money. I'd still be familiar with local rules, state laws, etc.. so you have an idea on what he's doing and if he's really helping. I'm wondering how you know your "case against her is so strong". I mean, I agree and yes -in a real fair and just system it would seem to be a no brainer. What advice have you received and from who to make you this confident? | /r/Divorce_Men | 19/03/22 04:06 PM |
| 4 | Ex-Wife Abusing Ex Parte after DCF Claim Against RoommateI'm so sorry this is happening to you. You have my empathy and I'm sure many others empathy in this sub. It's the same story for most fathers struggling to be a parent. It only differs to varying degrees and the system is composed, by design, to incentivize the behavior you're experiencing. The more overnight custody she has, the more money (untaxed, not tax deductible) she receives for child support. The money is not accounted for being spent on the child, so this is really mommy support. The f… | /r/Divorce_Men | 19/03/22 03:02 PM |
| 2 | Divorce, Servicemembers Civil Relief Act (SCRA) ExparteThank you for the explanation and the context. | /r/Divorce_Men | 19/03/22 01:07 PM |
| 2 | Just like Clockwork (rant)THIS right here. You could be tied into her i a way that you'd be paying for playing for years and possible decades. You got really lucky. Keep moving on and be happy you're not connected. Maybe do some activist work for those that haven't been so lucky and have been abused by their exes, both attorneys, judges, and a court system that see fathers as ATM worker bees that are only fit to visit their children a few hours per month. | /r/Divorce_Men | 07/03/22 02:56 AM |
| 1 | Home StretchI disagree. Most fathers do not fall on their swords. They go to court and the divorce industry gets them. It's incentivized financially for the mother, BOTH attorneys, the judge, and the state (Title IV) to extract as much wealth as possible. I happy for you and OP, but please don't speak for about other fathers that have been turned into visitors to their children, are broke, abused by the family court system, and indentured to a system that's a 60 billion dollar a year industry. Since you guy… | /r/Divorce_Men | 04/03/22 04:53 AM |
| 2 | Does “The woman you marry is not the same woman you divorce” ring true for you?I see what you're saying, but keep in mind the father (mostly) has already been reduced to visitation of their children in order to ensure there's an unequal amount of overnight time spent with the parent. This time, along with income, is a large factor in determining child support and alimony. The fact that there's isn't a judicial mandate in any state (a couple have tried to come close) to maximize child time with each parent is a tip-off that the system is designed to not work fairly toward e… | /r/Divorce_Men | 14/02/22 06:14 PM |
| 5 | Does “The woman you marry is not the same woman you divorce” ring true for you?Don't forget that the family court system is set up in America to make the main family provider the mark. The system is funded, lobbied, supported, and run by the same attorneys, Judges (ex-Attorneys), administrators and peripheral professions that reap big financial benefits from it being incentivized for women (mostly) to change and get their pay day too. You'll have to be the bad person because it justifies their reasoning. You are an abuser, you are the narcissist, you are the unreasonable o… | /r/Divorce_Men | 14/02/22 02:21 AM |
| 3 | Does “The woman you marry is not the same woman you divorce” ring true for you?All of the Facebook groups too. Crunchy Moms,, etc... | /r/Divorce_Men | 14/02/22 02:14 AM |
| 2 | Illinois Fathers Who are Unable to Have Meaningful Time with Their ChildrenOh, I apologize if my reply came off any other way than just wanting to understand more. I was agreeing with you on most of your points and quoting what you wrote. I guess tone gets lost in text, but I'm trying to understand how I mispresented you and only wanted an avenue I can go to understand why your view is that only CPS has the intent of, as you said "institutional expansion and self-preservation" and not the family law attorneys, judges, et al. But if you're too tired and exhausted to dis… | /r/Divorce_Men | 12/02/22 10:50 PM |
| 3 | Divorce was finalized today. Thanks gents.I'm glad you had a good outcome. IMO, the most important aspect would be that you're involved in your child(ren) lives for the maximum amount of time so you can have a part in raising them. If you don't mind me asking, did you get 50/50 joint physical custody (horrible word, I know)? | /r/Divorce_Men | 10/02/22 04:51 AM |
| 1 | Illinois Fathers Who are Unable to Have Meaningful Time with Their ChildrenGood point. I didn't realize CPS was a big of an issue until I looked around after your comment. You're right it's a huge problem, it seems. A lot of interests are being served that aren't related to the children. Why do think the Family Court system isn't interested in "institutional expansion and self-preservation" as well? Can you point me to any sources that helped you come to that conclusion? I also agree this space is a place where men ca protect themselves and get help for better outcomes… | /r/Divorce_Men | 10/02/22 04:46 AM |
| 2 | Illinois Fathers Who are Unable to Have Meaningful Time with Their ChildrenInteresting. Well, he has a platform. But you're right, the whole industry is corrupt inside out. But if there's a way to get sunlight into the dungeon of family court, I think it'd be helpful. At least there's a 'movement'. But I think framing it as "Fathers Rights" hasn't helped at all. Especially with the last decade's climate and attitude toward men and fathers. IMO, it needs to be "Parent and Children's rights" and just let anyone who gets involved realize who it really effects (other than … | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/02/22 07:32 PM |
| 3 | Illinois Fathers Who are Unable to Have Meaningful Time with Their ChildrenSupport the author of the article. Email him, The Sun Times, share it everywhere. Voices like that are needed. Especially if they have a platform. Best of luck to you. | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/02/22 07:24 PM |
| 3 | Illinois Fathers Who are Unable to Have Meaningful Time with Their ChildrenNot from there. I'm no nothing about the Sun Times but I think articles like that need support. Support for the author, support for spreading it around, and support to bring attention to what's going on. | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/02/22 07:22 PM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]Thank you. There are many heartbreaking stories. But who will hear them that will be in a position to help future kids and generations? | /r/Divorce_Men | 06/02/22 06:12 PM |
| 1 | How do I help my male neighbor? he's being abused by his wife (Domestic violence)I have to agree. I don't think most men even realize this. It's not like there's a class or required reading. Or a layer to get you into the business contract that you need to get out of the contract. Men don't realize any of this until they are out of finances from trying to get a fair outcome and are indentured the legal debt divorce creates and the financial obligations that encompass men through the whole system. They just kind of realize what's happening to them slowly over time, always thi… | /r/MensRights | 06/02/22 06:10 PM |
| 3 | How do I help my male neighbor? he's being abused by his wife (Domestic violence)Genuinely curios. What can social services do for him? I'm not sure what men's rights groups can do either other than suggest a family court attorney, but that's a problem...because it's a family court attorney. If he takes the kids he will be charged with kidnapping. I'm really wondering what the options are for him that won't end up with him losing his kids or at best, only being in their lives for 2 weekends per month, along with the other family court perils that abused family providers face… | /r/MensRights | 03/02/22 08:53 PM |
| 7 | How do I help my male neighbor? he's being abused by his wife (Domestic violence)While this would be good advice, unfortunately it's a good way for him to lose his child(ren). If he leaves, she will say he's abandoned his family. This goes a long way in family court, and he will instantly become a visitor to his kid(s) by only being able to see them every other weekend. He works full time so that makes him a provider and he will be responsible for post separation support, child support (because there's little chance he will have shared equal custody with his child), and alim… | /r/MensRights | 03/02/22 08:48 PM |
| 6 | Remember guys…Right, I know about a lot of the various alimony laws, but I had no idea that CA was 10 year alimony forever state. Most I'm aware of is 1/2 the length of marriage with some sporadic permanent alimony cases. I understand the need for a period of time for support, but there needs to be a point where the independence kicks in. Man, I'm so sorry about this. You have my empathy. I tell you, the more I learn about all of this, the more I'm amazed at the corrupt system. I learn concepts that are worse… | /r/Divorce_Men | 01/02/22 05:44 PM |
| 1 | Anyone here want more kids but are afraid of the risks of what the mother might become afterwards?Good for you! Please share the research here and keep me up to date. Yes, they're worth it. | /r/Divorce_Men | 01/02/22 05:35 PM |
| 2 | Anyone here want more kids but are afraid of the risks of what the mother might become afterwards?It's really incredible. Same here and I've been so surprised after what happened to me that they feel all is just as it should be in family court. It's an ingrained behavior and thought. This cycle has lasted for decades and decades. AND, most future divorced mothers are raised by divorced mothers and were probably estranged from their fathers too. The cycle continues. | /r/Divorce_Men | 01/02/22 05:34 PM |
| 1 | Anyone here want more kids but are afraid of the risks of what the mother might become afterwards?I hope it helps in some way. | /r/Divorce_Men | 01/02/22 05:31 PM |
| 5 | Remember guys…Right, but there's no burden of proof in family court. It's just whatever the judge wants to think is true. No judicial oversight whatsoever. | /r/Divorce_Men | 01/02/22 05:30 PM |
| 4 | Remember guys…Oh no. How is this possible at 10 years? Where did you live at the time? Is there any legislation to stop this practice? 10 years= lifetime monthly payments. That's just great incentive, along with all of the other perks, to play a game and pretend then of divorce the family financial provider. | /r/Divorce_Men | 01/02/22 05:29 PM |
| 1 | Anyone here want more kids but are afraid of the risks of what the mother might become afterwards?This was quite the read. My heart breaks for you and your children. Have you thought about any activism to bring attention to what's going on? Even if it's a small amount, it's needed. Your last sentence was hard hitting. | /r/Divorce_Men | 31/01/22 05:50 PM |
| 1 | Anyone here want more kids but are afraid of the risks of what the mother might become afterwards?I'm so sorry this is happening to you and your children. I can't really offer help but maybe ideas and thoughts on it. I would have a custody order in place and even a parenting plan that accounts for how to deal with any possible future conflict, be forward thinking about how you will coparent or parallel parent. I would have all communication be in email, text, or in some form that is easy to provide to an attorney. Go to your states website and start learning about child custody cases, laws, … | /r/Divorce_Men | 31/01/22 05:42 PM |
| 2 | Anyone here want more kids but are afraid of the risks of what the mother might become afterwards?So very true. The divorce industry is a racket sponsored by, and for attorneys, judges, and state to keep the money rolling in by separating children from parents and extracting as much wealth from future generations as possible. All contrived and legal. Until enough people know and speak up and out about what is happening to children and parent's civil rights, the family court steam roller will continue to destroy already troubled families. | /r/Divorce_Men | 31/01/22 04:42 PM |
| 1 | Anyone here want more kids but are afraid of the risks of what the mother might become afterwards?If you don't mind me asking, how are you fighting for 50/50? Is there a permanent custody order? My understanding is there has to be a 'significant change of circumstance', and of course a judge determines if that change is 'significant enough' to alter custody. It's such a racket and so many children have lost important time with parents. I'm up for any ideas on how to fight. | /r/Divorce_Men | 31/01/22 04:36 PM |
| 2 | Anyone here want more kids but are afraid of the risks of what the mother might become afterwards?Exactly. The financial discovery process is used to find out how much they can squeeze the mark, who's the main financial provider for the family. Could your attorney just have that info so they know how much they can charge you? I would bet when they share the financial info with the opposing counsel, they conspire and figure out conflict strategies to extract as much wealth from your and your children's future as possible. Here's a a bit of insight that really opened my eyes as to what's going… | /r/Divorce_Men | 31/01/22 04:23 PM |
| 3 | Anyone here want more kids but are afraid of the risks of what the mother might become afterwards?I identify with this. "All the signs were there". So many red flags I overlooked, thinking: 'for the family' and we'll get through it'. I had no idea of the abuse that would come, From Judges, courts, attorneys, the dungeon that is family court. None of this includes the damage and trauma that is caused to the children that are alienated from their parents. Fiorst by a mother, then the courts that turn fathers to visitors. I'll share this: https://www.sharedparenting.org/mission | /r/Divorce_Men | 30/01/22 09:10 PM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]You bring up great points with Parental alienation too. Cheers! Also, I think your quote: "Children are extremely adaptable to a variety of situations. They have more resilience than adults think. " is a good observation on how a 50/50 schedule would be easier on children than we've been led to believe. | /r/Divorce_Men | 28/01/22 05:09 PM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]This is a good point. I'd be interested in hearing from adult children who had to grow up with "visiting fathers". It'd be interesting to get that take. | /r/Divorce_Men | 28/01/22 05:05 PM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]Great question. I believe, and research supports, the better alternative is 50/50 maximum equal time with both parents. There are many ways to make a schedule that works for the family and children. Alternating whole weeks with exchanges on the weekend or drop off Wednesday morning at school then pick up the next Wednesday afternoon at school. Just a couple of examples. The schedule you cite is an option, but certainly not the only one and I would personally agree that it can become 2nd nature t… | /r/Divorce_Men | 28/01/22 05:03 PM |
| 2 | The Golden UterusI never thought about this angle, but it is very true. The only sense of identity comes from being a mommy. My ex's social media handles included it. All true. | /r/Divorce_Men | 26/01/22 05:06 AM |
| 3 | The Golden UterusSo, how do you know? | /r/Divorce_Men | 26/01/22 12:13 AM |
| 39 | [deleted by user]Two months after the judge turned me, a father, into a weekend visitor to my children, a man moved in and is able to be with my child more than me. Share your stories with as many as you can. Share what the family court system as done to your children and you. Share with moms of sons, share with paternal grandmothers who will barely be able to see their grandchildren if their sons go through the family court system. There needs to be sunlight in the corrupt family court system that has no mandat… | /r/Divorce_Men | 26/01/22 12:08 AM |
| 1 | Getting my Attorney TomorrowThank you. It is a cleaner version. | /r/Divorce_Men | 25/01/22 05:06 AM |
| 1 | States Are Increasingly Considering Equal Shared Parenting Custody CasesIf you're speaking about the video, I can't take any credit for that. But, I agree, that guy knows his stuff and it was so enlightening for me I share it as much as I can. It should be a prerequisite for 18 year olds to watch in high school, before applying for a marriage license, etc... | /r/Divorce_Men | 25/01/22 05:05 AM |
| 1 | Parents in Ohio - HB 508 Equal Shared Parenting TimeThat's great. I hope you're able to spread the link far and wide. There's has to be a better way to get messaging spread. This easy link is a great idea. OneClickPolitics seems like a great concept. | /r/Divorce_Men | 25/01/22 04:59 AM |
| 3 | States Are Increasingly Considering Equal Shared Parenting Custody CasesThe more I've learned the more I've realized 50/50 is rare. It's not a mandated starting point for judges to make sure the child is with the parents for a maximum equal amount of time. Most father's ask for this and it's a myth that "some dad's don't ask to be in their children's lives 50% of the time. Then there's the tricks attorneys and mothers (not all) use to to get primary custody. One is ex parte orders. The mothers goes to the court by herself and says "there's domestic abuse and I need … | /r/Divorce_Men | 21/01/22 01:34 PM |
| 5 | Getting my Attorney TomorrowPlease see other comment. Edit: Also, please realize the attorneys and judges in your county/city family court system are all workers in the same office. They see each other day in and day out. It's a 60 billion dollar a year industry and family providers are marked. Tread cautiously and be very aware of what you are told by the 'professionals' and your civil rights. | /r/Divorce_Men | 21/01/22 04:50 AM |
| 5 | Getting my Attorney TomorrowIf you're just now delving into this, I'd like for you to be aware of some things, so you know what type of arena you're stepping into and can be as prepared as possible. I'm not sure if you have children but even if you don't, this is a must watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRTUCOxANWk&t=113s And of course, the obligatory: Men's Divorce Forum - Most of us didn't realize what happens in family court until it was too late. We were broke, abused by the judges, the attorneys (both), tired, an… | /r/Divorce_Men | 21/01/22 04:49 AM |
| 2 | How has feminism helped men?Thank you for the info. Family law is held in civil court, even though it has it's own rules and no oversight. So, there's that. Maybe I'll lurk in the sub a bit and learn some things. | /r/MensRights | 20/01/22 09:30 PM |
| 1 | States Are Increasingly Considering Equal Shared Parenting Custody CasesI think one of my top 5 disappointments in the process was one of my friends on MANY years fell for the whole story she told. Couldn't believe it. It was detrimental to me being able to help children too. | /r/Divorce_Men | 20/01/22 09:28 PM |
| 3 | States Are Increasingly Considering Equal Shared Parenting Custody CasesGood point. It's the fact that 'equal protection under the law' means nothing. There's not even a starting point accepting that he is a parent. Clearly, the lesser person and unable to care for a child as a mother could. | /r/Divorce_Men | 20/01/22 03:30 AM |
| 3 | States Are Increasingly Considering Equal Shared Parenting Custody CasesI thought so too. You're exactly right about the primary caregiver. Also, Usually the primary care giver became primary because they alienated the child from the other parent. Causing further damage to 'win' a case. Just the term "custody" is sickening when talking about a child. | /r/Divorce_Men | 20/01/22 03:28 AM |
| 1 | States Are Increasingly Considering Equal Shared Parenting Custody CasesThis seems like a rare scenario. Glad to hear it. | /r/Divorce_Men | 20/01/22 03:26 AM |
| 2 | States Are Increasingly Considering Equal Shared Parenting Custody CasesBasically, my ex-wife envisioned me simply disappearing -- completely -- from her life (with one minor exception: that big fact check deposited into her account every month) Yes. AND if by some chance it wasn't her idea, her lawyer made it so. Lawyers need the conflict to feed the family court beast. It's structured this way on purpose. EVERYBODY wins, except children and fathers. | /r/Divorce_Men | 20/01/22 03:25 AM |
| 3 | States Are Increasingly Considering Equal Shared Parenting Custody CasesThe self-justification goes far. Plus, it is incentivized monetarily for them to do that. They will make up whatever story to the children, the court, friends, family members to justify it. This is how the system is set up. AND in the process, the ones who set up the family court system and lobby for it to stay that way get uber rich in the process. Then you have the states making money through this: Why Family Court believes in NO Equal Shared Parenting Time Share if you can, please. | /r/Divorce_Men | 20/01/22 03:23 AM |
| 3 | States Are Increasingly Considering Equal Shared Parenting Custody CasesYes, that's where many parents (mostly fathers) are right now. Turned into visitors in an instant. AND usually after being alienated from their children for a significant period of time. It's detrimental and I'm glad you and your girls haven't experienced it. I never thought I'd experience it either. Like most dads, they had no idea it was like this, never paid attention, and didn't bother to speak up if they did. Then BAM - after being neck deep, broke, indentured, and abused in the family cour… | /r/Divorce_Men | 20/01/22 03:17 AM |
| 2 | How has feminism helped men?Thanks for the answer and the work you do. I would ask how you got involved but I'll guess it's because you or someone you know has been a victim. It would potentially be an interesting avenue to use in family court. I'm not sure of direct funding, but I'm sure states and local districts receive federal funding on some level that make it to family court? At this point it's be nice to just make it a highlight for the local news. Anything to get attention to what's happening to father's (mostly) a… | /r/MensRights | 20/01/22 03:13 AM |
| 1 | How has feminism helped men?Title IX allows for people to file complaints against discriminatory programs and force legal action that they don't have to pay for. Can this be used in family court? Serious question. As far as your other takes I somewhat agree but am asking myself where can I find stats supporting your points. Also, I'm curios as to what your activist role is and what you do? | /r/MensRights | 19/01/22 04:22 AM |
| 1 | Parents in Ohio - HB 508 Equal Shared Parenting TimeWell, not really catching up, but I see your point. Unfortunately, using the phrase "best interest of the child" without judicial mandates to make maximum equal time a starting point is only lip service. EVERY state says equal parenting is in the best interest. It's a trick, really. It gives parents hope that the process will be fair to their children, and it keeps others complacent because they'll read that and think that the states are really looking out for the children. Also, false allegatio… | /r/Divorce_Men | 19/01/22 12:40 AM |
| 1 | The victim here was a woman, not a man. Still, the video shows that Family Court is a Constitution-free crucible where court officials are tyrants with absolute total control over the lives of helpless litigants. So much for the “best interests of the children”.Agreed, but I don't think anyone, especially in this sub, thinks or is saying "all the courts are against women." Yea, we know better. But this is an example of judicial and court abuse and OP was highlighting this instance of it happening to a women. I do understand more of your point though, based on the history of false allegations by women they did act properly. There's no standard of proof in family court for a reason. | /r/Divorce_Men | 17/01/22 12:29 AM |
| 4 | The victim here was a woman, not a man. Still, the video shows that Family Court is a Constitution-free crucible where court officials are tyrants with absolute total control over the lives of helpless litigants. So much for the “best interests of the children”."Family Court is a Constitution-free crucible where court officials are tyrants with absolute total control over the lives of helpless litigants." - Exactly. And while fathers/men realize (especially in this sub) it happens more to them, it'd help our cause if we acknowledge it happens to 'Parents". Call it out and be on the side of mothers when it happens to them. We need to re-frame the argument as Parent Rights and not just Father's Rights. Even if men are more victimized by family court, we … | /r/Divorce_Men | 17/01/22 12:18 AM |
| 1 | The victim here was a woman, not a man. Still, the video shows that Family Court is a Constitution-free crucible where court officials are tyrants with absolute total control over the lives of helpless litigants. So much for the “best interests of the children”.I don't think that was the point of the post. Can you expand on your comment a bit more? I trying to understand it completely. | /r/Divorce_Men | 17/01/22 12:02 AM |
| 3 | All my friends are getting married. You guys teached me a lesson to never marryJuist have your friends tell their SO's " we don't need a piece of paper marriage license to proclaim our love to our friends and family. We can still have a wedding and do everything else." I wonder what the reaction will be? Then, the only worry will be the fact of mothers give birth and have more rights just from that aspect. But at least fathers wouldn't be as broke or indentured and able to try to fight to be in their kid's lives. | /r/Divorce_Men | 15/01/22 05:54 AM |
| 1 | Divorce lawsExactly the purpose of the apps. Only difference is Wizard alows attorney's or anyone else to monitor and can print and sort "official" messages if needed in court. | /r/Divorce_Men | 15/01/22 05:49 AM |
| 1 | I Relate to This Video So Hard. How Many of Us Are There?Sorry I'm late on this. I got out. But got turned into a visitor, paid a lot of money in alimony and must pay child support, was and is abused by the corrupt family court system plus abused by the ex who realizes the system and takes full advantage of it to continue to abuse me and children. It's horrible. If you stay, kids are warped - if you leave -kids are warped. Until enough of the parents who go through it are helped by the ones who aren't or they're about to go through it, our kids will b… | /r/Divorce_Men | 15/01/22 05:45 AM |
| 1 | Parents in Ohio - HB 508 Equal Shared Parenting TimeEncouragement accepted. Many thanks. Will press on. | /r/Divorce_Men | 15/01/22 05:36 AM |
| 1 | Divorce lawsLooks like we have around same age children. Interesting. So, ex lied and of, course the mediator had to take it seriously. It's unfortunate no accountability exists for false allegations and claims that destroy parent's lives exist...at all in family court. The fees are a monster and I completely agree. Just know, and I know you do, that you are not alone. I get the same feeling whenever I see a message. Even. just the message app icon (special app we use to communicate so it's all documented) … | /r/Divorce_Men | 14/01/22 09:02 PM |
| 1 | Parents in Ohio - HB 508 Equal Shared Parenting TimeExcellent! Going to edit now. | /r/Divorce_Men | 14/01/22 08:32 PM |
| 1 | Divorce lawsOh, man, So sorry for that last part, especially. Hold old is daughter? If you don't mind me asking? I think wife decided to leave child with you for a month is spot on and your attorney should've said that as well. But ultimately, you're in a system to where they ALL want to just bill you and take your money. Are you in therapy? It can be helpful and would be good to be proactive for yourself. Emotionally speaking. Don't like "off the record" though. If that's what she thinks, report it. But th… | /r/Divorce_Men | 14/01/22 05:22 PM |
| 1 | Divorce lawsDid you 'call the psych' in? Yea, how do you prove it? Most child therapists have no clue as to what parent's do in custody issues. I think there are actually 'Custody Child Psychologist or therapist'. I would hope they are more versed in the narcissistic parent's tricks. As you probably know. Try to get in writing what you should have from the psych and any other professionals. It seems like she knows but just can't say with certainty and there's an amount of CYA they have to take into account. | /r/Divorce_Men | 14/01/22 04:31 PM |
| 1 | Divorce lawsGood for you! I think anyone who's been through this process has to be passionate about doing something to change it. Do something when you can. Even it's as simple as letting others know the court system treats parents and takes advantage of families already in distress. Make parents (mostly fathers) aware of the dangers of the system and how they can lose everything. Kids included. Keep on keeping on! | /r/Divorce_Men | 14/01/22 04:25 PM |
| 2 | Alienation of ChildrenI'm glad I read this. I'm really concerned of how Parental Alienation affects children when they become teenagers through their mid-twenties. Children cannot process what's happening on any level, especially emotionally, when they are kept from a loving parent. What are the best ways to counter the negative effects when a parent is able to their child? I realize the standard love, don't talk bad about the other parent, etc.., but is there anything beyond the obvious to counter-cast this with chi… | /r/Divorce_Men | 14/01/22 04:11 PM |
| 1 | Divorce lawsI admire you. | /r/Divorce_Men | 11/01/22 04:17 PM |
| 3 | Divorce lawsYes, I agree. I will also say that there are A LOT of judges who run unopposed. But you bring up a good point and got me thinking, You never hear interviews, panels, debates for judicial elections. They go right under the radar. The press never has a chance to ask relevant questions to determine judicial views. Another point, attorneys 'put up' judges to run. They are all friends, went to law school together, college together, etc... The divorce business lobbies state and federal legislatures. I… | /r/Divorce_Men | 11/01/22 04:17 PM |
| 2 | Divorce lawsRight.. funny not funny -huh.. In lieu of award I'd ask to kindly share some links and do some work towards making sure the behavior of the court system is known to as many as possible. Only sunlight into what is happening to children, parents (mostly fathers) and families already in distress will begin to allow the conversation of serious oversight and reform to take place. I hope the links help in some way. Here's my award to you: \O/ It's the "Arms Up Happy Award" Because you're hanging in th… | /r/Divorce_Men | 11/01/22 04:03 PM |
| 13 | A high school football star had a rape charge against him dropped after a sixteen-year-old girl confessed that the rape never happened. He spent six years falsely imprisoned and broke down when the case was moved to be dismissed.Right. Now let's talk family court where there's zero standard for burden of proof, judicial power is unchecked, and more often than not abused with no oversight or explanation of decisions. | /r/MensRights | 11/01/22 03:53 PM |
| 2 | Serenity nowPlease keep us posted on how this plays out for you. I'm sorry you and your children have to endure this aspect of the situation. Stay positive, be the role model the children can be proud of and teach the proper way to respect human beings. Best of luck. | /r/Divorce_Men | 11/01/22 05:31 AM |
| 4 | Serenity nowThis exactly. | /r/Divorce_Men | 11/01/22 05:25 AM |
| 2 | Divorce lawsI 'm agreeing with you. I mean WHILE the process is ongoing- before payday- 'single mothers' get a TON of state benefits. Cases can go on for years while they live off the state. I'll never view the term 'single mother' the same way. The state extracts children from their fathers. It encourages the behavior. I'm sure you know but I want to share this with you in the hopes you will share it and so on...This summed it up for me and helped me sum it up for others. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR… | /r/Divorce_Men | 11/01/22 03:11 AM |
| 0 | Divorce lawsI used to feel that way too. The system is now evolved and set up with unchecked judicial power and ALL attorneys being in on it to make them worthless and actually a waste of time and money. | /r/Divorce_Men | 11/01/22 03:05 AM |
| 1 | Divorce lawsI am so sorry. The only thing that makes me feel better is activism of some sorts to reform the crooked system. | /r/Divorce_Men | 11/01/22 03:03 AM |
| 3 | Divorce lawsWillful contempt of court means fines and jail. The system knows this is the logical way and unchecked judicial power is set up with contempt as a safeguard against what you'd do. | /r/Divorce_Men | 11/01/22 03:02 AM |
| 2 | Divorce lawsNot really true. The assumption is that a prenup works. Not so much anymore as the system uses judicial abuse and unchecked power to do whatever it wants for the money it can extract form ANY provider of the family. It instigates conflict because it needs it to feed the beast. Check this out if you haven't seen it. Give it a watch all the way through and share parts with as many as possible so we don't continue making the mistakes of believing things about this court system that simply are true … | /r/Divorce_Men | 11/01/22 03:00 AM |
| 3 | Divorce lawsI'm so sorry. It's crazy how many stories there are exactly like this. There's needs to be accountability for Parental Alienation. It's a tactic encouraged by the court system. In my case: rewarded. | /r/Divorce_Men | 11/01/22 02:55 AM |
| 1 | Divorce lawsRespect disagree. There can be fair arrangements made that don't ruin parents while they have become visitors to their children. The system actually encourages mothers to get on welfare while the process is underway. | /r/Divorce_Men | 11/01/22 02:52 AM |
| 2 | Divorce lawsExactly right. If you'd like to share these links to help and get some sunlight into the cracks and crevices of the dungeon that is Family Court. If you know of any other helpful links or info - please share. There are many organizations that are working, and they need our help. Even if it's just one thing per week/month. Strength in unity. Tell the story to grandmothers of sons, mothers of sons-if they want to see their grandkids when their children's marriage goes south. https://en.wikipedia.o… | /r/Divorce_Men | 11/01/22 02:50 AM |
| 1 | Divorce lawsPrenups aren't really effective in a system designed this way, unfortunately. Family court requires conflict to feed all of the players. From States, to judges, to attorneys and all administrations in between. I used to think exactly what you did. If you'd like to know more and share so more know what's really going on reform can begin. | /r/Divorce_Men | 11/01/22 02:45 AM |
| 1 | Divorce lawsThe system allows one to live off of the state indefinitely and THEN marks the provider for lifetime payments that are unreasonable and never held to account. Here's a good idea on why. Share if you can. | /r/Divorce_Men | 11/01/22 02:42 AM |
| 1 | Divorce lawsYes. Marital misconduct comes in many shapes and form...and sizes. Financial being a BIG for of it. Of course, abuse as well. | /r/Divorce_Men | 11/01/22 02:39 AM |
| 3 | Divorce lawsBecause it was hidden from the public and we didn't realize until we were stuck in it, broke, abused and tired. See comments for links where we can help. | /r/Divorce_Men | 11/01/22 02:38 AM |
| 5 | Divorce lawsThe how and the why of what's happening to you. Share with everyone who you think needs to know. Here's something you need to get familiar with and share too. This is for anyone about to start the process or in the process. The family court system is corrupt and incentives mothers to lie, falsely accuse fathers of abuse-domestic or child, makes the provider for the family a mark for a legalized shakedown (alimony). It ensures the others attorney's fees are paid for by fathers (mostly). It provid… | /r/Divorce_Men | 11/01/22 02:35 AM |
| 2 | a friend sent me this and I wondered what you guys thoughts on this are since usually people say it's wrong for men to hit women, but no one seems to care when men get hit, and, this article is saying that women agree that they should be hit in some countries, which you don't see oftenI get it. That's what I said when I got married and had kids. Exactly. I just wish I knew more the risk going in because it's been hardest on the kids. I would've never done it if I knew a child would have to endure what they do. Not for the world. My happiness means nothing compared to what the kids go through. No way. | /r/MensRights | 09/01/22 05:08 AM |
| 1 | a friend sent me this and I wondered what you guys thoughts on this are since usually people say it's wrong for men to hit women, but no one seems to care when men get hit, and, this article is saying that women agree that they should be hit in some countries, which you don't see oftenOkay. You seem pretty confident in your situation, so... | /r/MensRights | 08/01/22 08:14 PM |
| 13 | Divorce pendingThis. She's been planning this exit for a year or more. OP needs to go into protection mode. | /r/Divorce_Men | 08/01/22 06:06 PM |
| 2 | a friend sent me this and I wondered what you guys thoughts on this are since usually people say it's wrong for men to hit women, but no one seems to care when men get hit, and, this article is saying that women agree that they should be hit in some countries, which you don't see oftenCan you link that article? Important points here and I'd like to see the study. It makes sense. Look at the number of domestic violence shelters available for men. Maybe 1 or 2 in the country. | /r/MensRights | 08/01/22 02:37 AM |
| 1 | a friend sent me this and I wondered what you guys thoughts on this are since usually people say it's wrong for men to hit women, but no one seems to care when men get hit, and, this article is saying that women agree that they should be hit in some countries, which you don't see oftenFYI- your now at the mark that in most states, 10 years entitles wife to alimony for half the amount of time of the marriage. | /r/MensRights | 08/01/22 02:31 AM |
| 1 | a friend sent me this and I wondered what you guys thoughts on this are since usually people say it's wrong for men to hit women, but no one seems to care when men get hit, and, this article is saying that women agree that they should be hit in some countries, which you don't see oftenI give you props for looking for a source here. But I will say that you never know what the stresses of a marriage, kids, futures for all will bring out in people. | /r/MensRights | 08/01/22 02:30 AM |
| 1 | a friend sent me this and I wondered what you guys thoughts on this are since usually people say it's wrong for men to hit women, but no one seems to care when men get hit, and, this article is saying that women agree that they should be hit in some countries, which you don't see oftenUS is even more messed up then I thought Yes, yes it is. And you'll really get a kick out of our family court system where you have to pay to get abused more and the abuse towards you will be sanctioned, and you lose your kids, your house, all of your life savings, etc... And you pay to have this happen to you. Oh yes- 'equality' in the US. | /r/MensRights | 08/01/22 02:28 AM |
| 16 | a friend sent me this and I wondered what you guys thoughts on this are since usually people say it's wrong for men to hit women, but no one seems to care when men get hit, and, this article is saying that women agree that they should be hit in some countries, which you don't see oftenWow- poor guy. He gets abused from her, the abused by Dr. Phil, abused and mocked by the audience, then when he goes to the family court system where the abuse will continue. Not ONE single word towards the women. A wholehearted endorsement of physical abuse to males. | /r/MensRights | 08/01/22 02:24 AM |
| 1 | Getting my ducks in a row to get out of my financially abusive marriage.Stashing money. She's probably paid off her cards with money from your paycheck too. She's sus on many levels. You're making a good move because this will only get worse for you the longer you stay. | /r/Divorce_Men | 08/01/22 01:56 AM |
| 1 | Getting my ducks in a row to get out of my financially abusive marriage.How long have you been married? Are you the majority bread winner in the family? My ex was the exact same way. She hid things in crypto digital currency. This needs to be subpoenaed by your attorney. This is starting to sound eerily like my story too. But we all have 'the story' - only small details change. But the more I read your comments. Yikes, man. We are all such fools, don't be hard on yourself because you trusted. Just make sure you have a detailed action plan before telling anyone or ma… | /r/Divorce_Men | 08/01/22 01:54 AM |
| 1 | Getting my ducks in a row to get out of my financially abusive marriage.So she's good with numbers, does the books of a business with her brother? Oh man,. I really think they are in this together, DO NOT tell him what your plan is. He cannot know. | /r/Divorce_Men | 08/01/22 01:50 AM |
| 1 | Getting my ducks in a row to get out of my financially abusive marriage.Um, he's probably helping her. | /r/Divorce_Men | 08/01/22 01:48 AM |
| 1 | Getting my ducks in a row to get out of my financially abusive marriage.You need to have a good record of this abuse. It still may not help because there really is no burden of proof in family court. It's really up to whatever the biased judges think. It's going to be the opposite of what you have in mind this court system will be like, | /r/Divorce_Men | 08/01/22 01:47 AM |
| 1 | Getting my ducks in a row to get out of my financially abusive marriage.some lawyers request discovery from their client but don’t actually swap that information with the opposing lawyer. I never thought about this- but I bet it's true. They really just want to know how much you have so they know how much to get out of you. My attorney and her attorney both shook me down for alimony in 'negotiations that took place in the courthouse with the threat of going in front of the judge that would make it 10x worse if I didn't play ball. If I wasn't in a courthouse, I would… | /r/Divorce_Men | 08/01/22 01:46 AM |
| 1 | Getting my ducks in a row to get out of my financially abusive marriage.Not if her attorneys subpoena these institutions. | /r/Divorce_Men | 08/01/22 01:40 AM |
| 3 | Getting my ducks in a row to get out of my financially abusive marriage.Woe, Woe, Woe... I'm reading all of this and want to make sure your protected here. Se, you're a man about to go into family court. Something you are NOT ready for by the looks of your comments. So I'll drop links below. Do you have kids? I haven't read through all of these comments because I wanted to chime in fast. Most all of our situations here are somewhat the same in parts, really. Especially the money. We trusted, got used and abused - then the courts aided in the abuse. It sounds like sh… | /r/Divorce_Men | 08/01/22 01:39 AM |
| 1 | Equal Shared Parenting Bill in Ohio - Share!Absolutely. It has to be a starting place. Then there has to be actual proof. The proof has to meet a standard. A trick of family court is that the judges don't have to explain their decisions and there's no actual burden of proof. It exploits the civil side of the law. | /r/Divorce_Men | 08/01/22 12:41 AM |
| 1 | Equal Shared Parenting Bill in Ohio - Share!Right- I don't know why the downvotes. Maximum equal shared parenting time should be the starting point and there needs to be burden of proof for a decrease in time. But no judge should not provide maximum equal time unless there is a compelling reason with actual proof. Family court is famous for no standard of burden of proof and use this concept to deprive parents of civil rights and deny children access to parents all the time. | /r/Divorce_Men | 08/01/22 12:39 AM |
| 1 | Equal Shared Parenting Bill in Ohio - Share!I hope it helps in some way. Email the legislatures, help push for it. Do you know who your state reps are? Let me know if you need assistance finding anyone. Share this, make it public, push for it. Get some sunlight in to you family court system. | /r/Divorce_Men | 08/01/22 12:35 AM |
| 1 | Equal Shared Parenting Bill in Ohio - Share!This exactly. And this is EVEN in a presumed equal shared custody state. AZ is one of the few. Edit: None have a mandate that judges must start from a position of ensure maximum equal shared parenting time. If you can find state statues or laws where it's spelled out that there is equal shared parenting, please point me to the way. States and courts have a lot of nice, fuzzy warm slogans like " best interest of the child" etc... but on the law books, there is nothing of the sort. | /r/Divorce_Men | 08/01/22 12:32 AM |
| 1 | Equal Shared Parenting Bill in Ohio - Share!As with most fathers until they're neck deep in the abusive court system, broke, and emotionally wrecked. To wrecked to fight, too embarrassed from false allegations to talk. This is why everyone needs to know about it now and before they're married. Tell grandmothers that have sons, tell soon to be married men, tell everyone so sunlight shines in the family court system in America. If you didn't know why, here's a big part of the answer. Please share this 9-minute video too. It's not mine, but … | /r/Divorce_Men | 08/01/22 12:30 AM |
| 1 | Equal Shared Parenting Bill in Ohio - Share!Yep. Exactly. Men's groups. BUT- there are Parent Groups and children's rights groups getting on board. My take is we need to ignore the 'men' aspect of it. Focus on the children losing a parent and it happening to the few mothers it happens too. Run with that and once enough people pay attention because of the 'poor single moms', the public will start realizing it's more than moms. custody orders are a myth- Very true. | /r/Divorce_Men | 08/01/22 12:24 AM |
| 1 | Equal Shared Parenting Bill in Ohio - Share!It is insane and the reason is .....wait for it... Money. The beast needs conflict to be able to feed the lawyers, judges, admins, and state coffers. No conflict=no money to feed the family court beasr. | /r/Divorce_Men | 02/01/22 06:31 PM |
| 1 | Equal Shared Parenting Bill in Ohio - Share!Is it really mandated for judges to default at maximum shared equal parent time? Can you point me in the direction I can find that? It'll be helpful to see how that's written out for the state. | /r/Divorce_Men | 02/01/22 06:29 PM |
| 1 | Equal Shared Parenting Bill in Ohio - Share!Patriarchy. Only women can raise children. Fathers can only work to provide...money. | /r/Divorce_Men | 02/01/22 06:27 PM |
| 1 | Empty home for the holidays: Parents who lost children to family court say system in need of reformYep- I'm having a hard time now, today. The only thing that has helped in any way is to become an activist in some way. Parents Rights, Maximum Equal Shared Parenting Time Mandates legislation. If not for our own kids, for future children and fathers. | /r/Divorce_Men | 25/12/21 04:14 PM |
| 1 | Empty home for the holidays: Parents who lost children to family court say system in need of reformRight, but we have to do some work. | /r/Divorce_Men | 25/12/21 04:11 PM |
| 2 | Empty home for the holidays: Parents who lost children to family court say system in need of reformMen have been losing custody for 50 years and completely being alienated from their kids yet no one said ANYTHING My point exactly. Time to change tactics? | /r/Divorce_Men | 25/12/21 04:11 PM |
| 1 | Empty home for the holidays: Parents who lost children to family court say system in need of reformAbsolutely. Align with the ones that have the voice. Include our voice. Don't be oppositional. That has gotten fathers absolutely NOWHERE. Maybe, we're doing it wrong? | /r/Divorce_Men | 25/12/21 04:10 PM |
| 2 | bullsh*t temporary orders sticking as permanentYea- That got me too. And the amount of money states get to have Title IVD. Stunning when I looked up my state. $193 million in lkast year. | /r/Divorce_Men | 21/12/21 01:22 AM |
| 1 | Hope in Ohio?Yea, I agree with most everything. And it's such a sham and yes, and Everest slant. I still think if we're not careful in how we frame it we will be, in effect, saying: EVERY Democrat & EVERY woman is evil and trying to screw over fathers. It's already perceived that way in the slanted arena. I think the current strategy of calling out the Dems and feminist over the years has gotten us nowhere and even hardened their positions. We desperately need to build by consensus. I also don't think any of… | /r/Divorce_Men | 21/12/21 01:20 AM |
| 1 | It's Eczema Dad Again... I don't stay unrepresented, do I (on finding lawyers late)I'm sorry your post hasn't gained any traction and I understand the frustration as we all have the same story that only varies with the details. I want to share this short video to maybe give you some understanding of the how and why this is happening to you and your boys. The How & Why of Custody Proceedings and Judicial Abuse in Family Court I'll also encourage you to be loud and transparent about what is happening to you in the family court system. NOT bashing mom or describing what she's doi… | /r/Divorce_Men | 19/12/21 03:33 PM |
| 2 | bullsh*t temporary orders sticking as permanentAgreed . Not enough sunlight shining in the courtroom. I think anyone going through it as to be transparent and shout out what is happening to them in real-time as the court process proceeds. Not transparent about what the other parent has done, but the facts. 'haven't seen child in 6 months which is NOT stated in temporary order...", etc... Parental Alienation is real and has serious effects on our children. Yet, the abusive family court system (especially judges) condones it. I know I'm preach… | /r/Divorce_Men | 19/12/21 03:19 PM |
| 1 | A meme I wish I had seen in my early twenties.Yup. waited til the EXACT 10 year mark. | /r/Divorce_Men | 19/12/21 03:58 AM |
| 1 | Hope in Ohio?Real question. On one hand I see the feminist slant. However, the Patriarchy says fathers can't raise children and women don't work. I've also met many moms who've lost their children too. It's mostly fathers I know, but the judicial abuse and scammy system is made up Dems and Repubs. The victims of the system are both Dem and Repub, so...I want to be careful framing this as Mother v Father, Dem v Repub. It's about parents - period. Grandmothers of sons are affected. I think the system actively … | /r/Divorce_Men | 18/12/21 09:38 PM |
| 2 | Thinking of submitting a complaint to HR.Well, maybe document and be transparent so others know what's happening and what you go through. The more that are aware, the more realize the situation, really. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/21 06:55 AM |
| 1 | Thinking of submitting a complaint to HR.Do you really make Docs? Is this your passion? | /r/MensRights | 16/12/21 03:17 PM |
| 1 | Thinking of submitting a complaint to HR.NPCs who only care about procedure being followed. Probably because companies can get sued if they don't follow their "procedures" to the tee. I guess we have to also dig deeper into the insurance practices too, now that I think about it. | /r/MensRights | 16/12/21 03:14 PM |
| 1 | Thinking of submitting a complaint to HR.This is a good point. I hope we can all learn and acknowledge the irony so we all come to a better understanding of the human condition and duality that exist in all of us. | /r/MensRights | 16/12/21 03:12 PM |
| 1 | Hope in Ohio?Interesting take. But feminist should end the patriarchy by acknowledging that fathers raise children too, right? I'm trying to understand the 'strong family' theory. I guess you saying: rights & equality > strong family. Do I have that right? IMO, it should all be the case. I feel like if I can understand their perspective more, I'll know how to appeal to them so they can understand that states are taking children away from parents and not just be instantly blinded by an ideology. | /r/Divorce_Men | 16/12/21 03:07 PM |
| 2 | Anyone else just have that empty/DGAF feeling that won't go away after horrible Divorce?I identify with every sentence in your comment. So true. In a way, some of these 'negative' traits you point out have worked in your, and your kids favor as far as 50/50. Our timelines seem pretty similar, so I identify with you on that level. I just can't believe how I was abused by the family court system and extorted (alimony) by her attorney AND my attorney. If I hadn't been in the courthouse "negotiating" alimony, I would've called the police. It was a shakedown. Plain and simple. Negotiati… | /r/Divorce_Men | 16/12/21 03:00 PM |
| 3 | Hope in Ohio?I think you're right. Title IV D. Here's a good video to share with all fathers, fathers to be and Dem friends. This should be a parent issue. Not Republican v Dem, not Male v Female, Not Mother v Father. Share if you can. I know you realize this, but share anyway with the ones that aren't aware of the reasons for the way it is. The Why of Title IV D. | /r/Divorce_Men | 15/12/21 01:51 AM |
| 14 | Anyone else just have that empty/DGAF feeling that won't go away after horrible Divorce?50% of all marriages end in divorce. 60% and 70% for 2nd and 3rd marriages. 80% of all divorces/separations initiated by the woman. 90% of all custody orders given to mother's. Those numbers tell the story and do not lie. Throw in the alimony figures, money spent on attorneys (usually both attorneys), and the child support owed (because your children were taken from you and you became a visitor) and you'll have the whole picture. But I will say to OP, try to be grateful for what you do have. 50/… | /r/Divorce_Men | 14/12/21 08:48 PM |
| 3 | Well I broke the news to her last nightthey're financially incentivized getting divorced, like child support, alimony, and government benefits THIS! 100% | /r/Divorce_Men | 13/12/21 11:59 PM |
| 1 | ‘Worst Interest of the Child’ But Best Payday for Family Court LawyersI don't think the court should "give the children" to one parent. Both should have maximum equal time so both can be involved in a child's life. This whole 'winner take all and other parent only visits a couple of weekends per month" game is a problem. When both parents are equally involved the abuse get spotted sooner and the parent that would "win" the child won't feel entitled to alienate the other parent. There has to be a mandate of maximum equal shared parenting time. | /r/Divorce_Men | 13/12/21 11:56 PM |
| 3 | ‘Worst Interest of the Child’ But Best Payday for Family Court LawyersI guess the idea the judge hinted at that you didn't put in the post was that judicial oversight over the process and the spending on experts would be a way to start curbing this problem. Agree, but It's too entrenched to form oversight. I believe there needs to be awareness first so Americans can start making a big deal about it to get the oversight needed. | /r/Divorce_Men | 13/12/21 01:12 PM |
| 3 | ‘Worst Interest of the Child’ But Best Payday for Family Court LawyersI understand the documentary now. I think you're right about the small portion of people. But if you include the unequal child custody aspect, it includes grandmothers, grandfathers, and don't forget the children it effects. The most important aspect, really. Also, everyone knows someone, or has a friend and family member that's been affected. Most men don't realize this is how it works until they are neck deep in it, broke, and working away slaving for the alimony and child support payments. It… | /r/Divorce_Men | 13/12/21 01:11 PM |
| 1 | Divorced Mens NetworkI'm with you very much. There are so many stories like your, like mine. It's amazing how the courts are made to take children away from parents, keep the conflict going, and ultimately abuse and shake-down caring parents. There needs to be something done on the legal side and I think the only way that happens is with strength in numbers. There needs to be sunshine let in to the dirty, corrupt family courts. Some concerted effort from all of us that share the same story. The details may be differ… | /r/Divorce_Men | 13/12/21 03:56 AM |
| 6 | Got a 2nd job and almost entire check has been garnished.In case anyone is wondering the "why" of all of this, here is a 9 minute and 42 second explanation: Child Support: The Why "best interest of the child" is a sham the family court system hides behind to extort. Share with everyone you know. Share with grandmothers of sons, sons, mothers of sons. There needs to be sunlight shining in on the corrupt judges, clerks, and attorneys (even the father's attorneys). Until enough people realize what's happening and tell everyone else who doesn't know, we'l… | /r/Divorce_Men | 10/12/21 08:35 PM |
| 1 | What I really need is an Exit PlanI'd be careful with above advice. One thing I've learned is attorneys for men/fathers do not have a plan or strategy at all. They want you to deal with the situation you are in at the moment. If they had a plan to head off what they know is coming, they would not be needed, and this would severely limit the money one has to pay them. It's the building a perfect light bulb theory. Divorce is a 60-billion-dollar a year predatory industry that preys on providers. State reps, judges, attorneys (espe… | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/12/21 04:17 PM |
| 1 | Divorce updates.Do not move out! Be careful, record, and protect yourself! Here: Please Look at this! | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/12/21 03:59 PM |
| 1 | Divorce updates.I'd also look over the finances again and get records you may not have access too. If she's wanting the divorce, she's been thinking and planning for about a year. Those funds were probably siphoned off into an account to pay for an attorney a process that will bleed you financially dry and not resemble any equality what-so-ever. I would look closer at the finances and try to get ALL records directly from the bank(s). | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/12/21 03:56 PM |
| 5 | Divorced Mens NetworkThis. is. Great! Way to go and take action. Thank you so much for doing this. I hope everyone links and shares it far and wide for the ones going through it, the ones about to go through it, and maybe to spare future generations FROM going through it. | /r/Divorce_Men | 08/12/21 10:35 PM |
| 1 | "Men are MEANT to be expendable. Women are not." J Walters for Congress on TwitterEND THE PATRIARCHY! FATHERS RAISE CHILDREN TOO! | /r/MensRights | 06/12/21 02:37 PM |
| 5 | 16-year-old sister repeatedly rapes 13 year old brother and becomes pregnant. Admits to forcing brother with beatings and threats to tell people he was raping her. 13 year old boy is arrested, while "16 year old girl victim is hospitalized" (literally exact words from the article)I would guess, activism, influence, and pressure. | /r/MensRights | 06/12/21 04:09 AM |
| 7 | 5 Steps To Feel Better After DivorceStep 7 - Be active toward fixing and highlighting how corrupt the family court system is. Let as many people know how you were treated by the family court system. Become an activist to some degree. It can be very therapeutic to feel like you're doing something you actually have control over. Become an advocate for fathers and children who've be alienated by the system. Write legislatures, be active on social media., share and engage with posts. Offer support and comradery so others know they are… | /r/Divorce_Men | 06/12/21 04:00 AM |
| 1 | Common theme..How is court going? Or how did it go? The family court system has turned most fathers in to weekend Disney Dads, so I wish you luck. Please let us know how it's going. | /r/Divorce_Men | 05/12/21 12:23 PM |
| 1 | Common theme..Yep, the whole "if you have nothing to hide, be transparent" This screwed me over so bad. Changed the passwords to bank accounts, drained said accounts, maxxed out credit cards, ran up all other bills. Hired high power attorney, took our child, ex parte (even though no DV at all), now I'm a weekend visitor to my child. Massive alimony after Post separation support, and of course child support. The family court system allows this behavior, and the attorneys encourage it. Even father's attorneys. … | /r/Divorce_Men | 05/12/21 12:21 PM |
| 1 | Should we create a real checklist for men just getting into the thick of it?This is a good idea and I'd like to add to the list if you're putting one together. Be transparent about how the court is treating you. Post on FB, Twitter, YT, etc... DO NOT post about the ex, kids or relationship matters. ONLY what the court does. We need sunshine inside this family court system that allows and encourages the behaviors that put most fathers in the situations you read about. Maybe a mother of a son will see it, maybe a grandmother of a son grandchild will see what the court is … | /r/Divorce_Men | 03/12/21 02:22 AM |
| 1 | The Financesi got 50/50 but it took 3 years. I assume you had another custody hearing (or 2) to do this? Can I ask what gave you a chance? Was it a 'significant' change of circumstance or did you actually have a strategy? You have my empathy for all you went through. The more time I spend here the more I realize my horrible circumstances are just a drop in a very big big bucket. Thanks for sharing. | /r/Divorce_Men | 03/12/21 01:45 AM |
| 1 | The FinancesSmart. And if you ever do get fooled, don't get a marriage license, and have an attorney draw up a prenup for both of you. If she's not willing to do that, the jig will be up. Would be a nice test of faith, of sorts. BUT, even then, you can still lose in some. Family court will never be equitable or fair for fathers or children. PS - Tell all of your male friends what you've learned. Godspeed! | /r/Divorce_Men | 03/12/21 01:41 AM |
| 1 | Follow-upI'm copy/pasta my own comment from another post for you. Do NOT leave your house but be careful. She's already divorced you and moist likely been thinking/planning it for a year, at least. If she files first, it's trouble (more) for you. Throw away any notions of a fair judge (court system), and honest attorney (yours and hers), and the term 'best interest of the child'. You are stepping into a billion-dollar industry that is corrupt to the core. Here's the copy pasta. Hope it helps in some way … | /r/Divorce_Men | 03/12/21 01:32 AM |
| 2 | It's rarely about the child(ren)Hey, it's you! Hi and I'm continually grateful for your open mind and positive engagement. Hope all is well in your world, and I wish you the best and power to your positive impact in your circle. | /r/Divorce_Men | 02/12/21 05:53 PM |
| 2 | Just joined… about to start the whole messIf you are going to stay, have video and recording t all times because her attorney will encourage her to call the police for domestic violence. Even if untrue the fact the cops were called to your house will be one more thing you'll have to fight. There is no burden of proof in family court. This is a common tactic to gain full custody of children so you will pay as much as possible in child support while being a visitor to your children. | /r/Divorce_Men | 02/12/21 05:10 PM |
| 1 | Just joined… about to start the whole messWe are all sorry my friend. Stay positive, be transparent so the public and at least friends can see what happens to you in family court. This may help: Starting Point Ignore "the best interest of the children" statement. It's a lie the family court system hides behind. 2. Motions mean nothing and a judge can do whatever they want. They have unchecked power, and you will most likely be abused by the family court system. Prepare for that. 3. Your attorney already knows how screwed you are. The be… | /r/Divorce_Men | 02/12/21 05:07 PM |
| 1 | Does Anyone Know Exactly What Is The: NCJFCJ - National Council of Juvenile and Family Court Judges?All good, I get it. Venting needed. Finding this just put it all in more perspective. I shouldn't be surprised by now, but every day I find something out more atrocious than the last thing I found out. | /r/Divorce_Men | 02/12/21 04:51 PM |
| 1 | It's rarely about the child(ren)If you're interested in the reason why here you go: Title IV D - Here's the How and Why Share this with as many as you can. | /r/Divorce_Men | 29/11/21 10:30 PM |
| 2 | It's rarely about the child(ren)If you'd like the details: Title IV D and the Reasons Why Share this far and wide! | /r/Divorce_Men | 29/11/21 10:29 PM |
| 1 | It's rarely about the child(ren)"Best interest of the child" is a fluffy, feel-good saying (lie) that attorneys, judges, and the family law system hides behind. You're right it's absolutely not about the children. It's a tough system that abuse parents (mostly fathers) and children. What's amazing is the fact that we all know this and there isn't any cohesive group, only splintered factions, to try to do anything about it. Of course, we are all broke, broken, and tired while having to be the worker bees and ATM machines that w… | /r/Divorce_Men | 29/11/21 10:26 PM |
| 1 | 'Senate Candidate Parnell Loses Custody Battle' - A Lesson for Men & Fathers In, Or Beginning, The Family Court ExperienceYour right, decent humans don't take children away from parents. I'm no fan of his political ideology, but I hope my views towards parents and children supersede a person's politics when it comes to their children. It's the system that allows what's happening. It's all sus\. If he's bad, why not supervised visitation if dangerous. Where the police ever called? Are there any more women to corroborate? It's a big pay day to lie in family court, and it's really easy. | /r/Divorce_Men | 27/11/21 12:39 AM |
| 1 | 'Senate Candidate Parnell Loses Custody Battle' - A Lesson for Men & Fathers In, Or Beginning, The Family Court ExperienceI just can't find anything. I have learned it is hard to find out the history of how a family court judge rules...in any state. It's all buried deep. Maybe investigative reporters can get to the bottom of it. | /r/Divorce_Men | 27/11/21 12:35 AM |
| 0 | 'Senate Candidate Parnell Loses Custody Battle' - A Lesson for Men & Fathers In, Or Beginning, The Family Court ExperienceYes- but I read that same article. Only her testimony, no evidence- No burden of proof in family court - Judge says" she just seemed more believable." Allegations only happened when she filed for divorce. No pictures, no witnesses, no other women have claimed his behavior. Look, I'm no fan of his political views and it wouldn't matter if I was. I have learned so much on my journey about how family court works and how attorneys encourage women to lie and the lengths they will go to. It's a bit pa… | /r/Divorce_Men | 27/11/21 12:34 AM |
| 2 | 'Senate Candidate Parnell Loses Custody Battle' - A Lesson for Men & Fathers In, Or Beginning, The Family Court ExperienceHere to derail the comments and steer away from any meaningful dialog about the family court system. Used to detract, divide, so there is no momentum and productive discourse. It's helps the corrupt family court system when we play into it. | /r/Divorce_Men | 23/11/21 11:23 PM |
| 1 | 'Senate Candidate Parnell Loses Custody Battle' - A Lesson for Men & Fathers In, Or Beginning, The Family Court ExperienceWell, it's difficult to get written opinions in family court in most states. It's not a transparent process. I was surprised there was a written opinion at all in this case. I did read what has been quoted in different articles. I can't se where it was based on any proof. Just that the judge thought one side was more believable. If you can find the opinion, please point me to it. I'd like to see if there was any evidence entered other than verbal testimony. | /r/Divorce_Men | 23/11/21 11:21 PM |
| 1 | 'Senate Candidate Parnell Loses Custody Battle' - A Lesson for Men & Fathers In, Or Beginning, The Family Court ExperienceI think we have to be careful about bringing politics into it. That divisiveness is used against men and fathers, so anyone who would support maximum equal shared parenting time for parents becomes angry at the other side of the political spectrum. It's about children having both parents. Not Repub or Dem. Male or Female. It's eay to say they deserved it because ___________. But really no children deserve to not have their parents if the parents want to have their children. Also, it's easy to cl… | /r/Divorce_Men | 23/11/21 11:16 PM |
| 3 | 'Senate Candidate Parnell Loses Custody Battle' - A Lesson for Men & Fathers In, Or Beginning, The Family Court ExperienceStates receive free money to have the child support system. This video explains it pretty well. Share it if you think anyone needs to see it. Actually, everyone needs to see it. Especially fathers about to be or are going through divorce and men considering marriage and a family. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRTUCOxANWk&t=1s | /r/Divorce_Men | 23/11/21 11:08 PM |
| 2 | 'Senate Candidate Parnell Loses Custody Battle' - A Lesson for Men & Fathers In, Or Beginning, The Family Court ExperienceRight- that was my point in highlighting that. Mandates for a starting point of maximum equal shared parenting time for each parent have to happen. This ruling ....reeks. exactly. Like most of them. | /r/Divorce_Men | 23/11/21 11:05 PM |
| 3 | 'Senate Candidate Parnell Loses Custody Battle' - A Lesson for Men & Fathers In, Or Beginning, The Family Court ExperienceI think we have to appeal to grandmothers, because if women have male children, the chances are pretty good they will never see them again after a few years. | /r/Divorce_Men | 23/11/21 11:03 PM |
| 2 | 'Senate Candidate Parnell Loses Custody Battle' - A Lesson for Men & Fathers In, Or Beginning, The Family Court ExperienceI see what you're saying. Can you point me to how that's known? I'm not clear on those details. | /r/Divorce_Men | 23/11/21 10:58 PM |
| 10 | Sticky Sidebar for Visitors on New Reddit LayoutI agree with this. The stories are all 99% of the same before or going into divorce and they are all 99% the same during or post divorce. All horrible outcomes for men/fathers. By helping to protect them and give an idea as to what to expect the surprises will be limited as much as possible it will be the most helpful thing the sub could do. Maybe a certain call for activism and spreading awareness so more can become aware of what's happening to the children of fathers caught in the abusive syst… | /r/Divorce_Men | 23/11/21 01:05 AM |
| 3 | Wife Wants Divorce & She’s The One CheatingI didn't know this. So higher income file 90% of the time, the others 70%. Woah. | /r/Divorce_Men | 22/11/21 01:06 PM |
| 12 | Wife Wants Divorce & She’s The One CheatingIf you do so much as yell one time She will do this if you don't yell. Good advice here. Record, document, establish you are primary care giver. If she's drunk at the house around the child, call the cops on her. Do not let her have the child alone as she can easily take the kid and get an ex parte or restraining order against you to where you don't see the child until temporary custody hearting gets it worked out. If you don't know the terms or if any of the advice on the thread is shocking to … | /r/Divorce_Men | 22/11/21 01:04 PM |
| 1 | A woman walks out on her family and she had to free her self, A man walks out on his family society calls him a bad parent.It's actually a global issue. | /r/MensRights | 22/11/21 12:30 AM |
| 2 | I Relate to This Video So Hard. How Many of Us Are There?It's good to hear a just outcome in these cases. I know in my case, none of that would've mattered. I could've shown a video of her beating the kids and it would not have made a bit of difference. And I'm not exaggerating. The fix was in before it even went to a hearing. Really suspicious. | /r/Divorce_Men | 18/11/21 07:17 PM |
| 3 | I Relate to This Video So Hard. How Many of Us Are There?All of it basically stolen from the kid's futures; and yours. The default position should start at maximum equal time with each parent and work from there. It's designed to extract as much money as possible from parents. It preys on the fact that parent swill do/spend anything for their children. | /r/Divorce_Men | 17/11/21 06:18 PM |
| 1 | I Relate to This Video So Hard. How Many of Us Are There?True. Can I ask if it was a strategy you had that made for a more ideal outcome? | /r/Divorce_Men | 17/11/21 06:15 PM |
| 1 | I Relate to This Video So Hard. How Many of Us Are There?May I ask what country? And who do we call !? /s maybe. | /r/Divorce_Men | 17/11/21 06:14 PM |
| 2 | Sock Day hit yesterday!Please get yourself familiar with the family court system and fathers rights groups. There are many things working against you. You were the primary provider for the family. It's in her favor she was " a quitter". She relied on you and the courts will award her Post separation support, Alimony, child support, ect.. to keep her standard of living. Just because you have a family court attorney means very little, really. Big dollar industry and most are in on the game. Here's a Starting Point Edi… | /r/Divorce_Men | 17/11/21 04:12 PM |
| 2 | I Relate to This Video So Hard. How Many of Us Are There?Absolutely. You'd think that'd be a starting point for "Best interest of the child". It's actually the opposite. It's a fluffy saying the family court system hides behind. | /r/Divorce_Men | 17/11/21 04:07 PM |
| 1 | I Relate to This Video So Hard. How Many of Us Are There?Very true. Everyone involved in it, or who has someone close to them involved in it, really needs to bring awareness to what's happening. Any help is needed for future children and fathers. | /r/Divorce_Men | 17/11/21 04:06 PM |
| 2 | I Relate to This Video So Hard. How Many of Us Are There?It's devastating. Glad you had a good/fair outcome. It is rare from what I'm learning. | /r/Divorce_Men | 17/11/21 04:05 PM |
| 1 | I Relate to This Video So Hard. How Many of Us Are There?You too! Thanks. Will be strong, positive, focused, and ACTIVE in awareness campaigns so more know what is happening in the family court system. | /r/Divorce_Men | 17/11/21 04:04 PM |
| 1 | I Relate to This Video So Hard. How Many of Us Are There?I agree, but I don't think you can truly say "it's gotten better" based on your one experience. I don't think it's gotten any better from the data and horror stories I hear from fathers. | /r/Divorce_Men | 17/11/21 04:03 PM |
| 3 | I Relate to This Video So Hard. How Many of Us Are There?I'm sorry you're having to do this, and your kid is having to do it too. There is no good answer. I personally left because I could not let my kids see any longer that this is how you treat people when you 'love them'. I didn't like the message it was sending. But, I was accused of abandoning the family, of course, and family court abuses me along with the Ex. Still, 3 years in. Hang tough and be careful because if she wants out she'll just call police for a domestic violence charge (even if not… | /r/Divorce_Men | 17/11/21 04:01 PM |
| 19 | A woman walks out on her family and she had to free her self, A man walks out on his family society calls him a bad parent.Federal Court. This! Are you starting in Fed court or moving. Please help others with ideas on how to do this. This is smart, IMO, because the family court system will trample on your civil rights and the state will steal your child from you and a father's chances of being treated EQUALLY under the law are slim to none. . I'm guessing this is why your in Fed court? Please keep us updated and here's to actual fairness and a just hearing. | /r/MensRights | 17/11/21 03:52 PM |
| 2 | I've been falsely accused of being quite a few things (stalker/rapist/child rapist/spreading some woman's nudes and more) by my abuser and nobody cares and I'm really tired.Send a cease and desist order through an attorney. A nice scary letter or email should suffice. If you hear about anything else - sue. There needs to be accountability for this behavior. BUT - weigh how much you want to invest emotionally in this against finding new positive people to make friendships with. Maybe a combination of both. That's a traumatic thing to go through. You have my empathy. | /r/MensRights | 16/11/21 10:56 PM |
| 3 | I've been falsely accused of being quite a few things (stalker/rapist/child rapist/spreading some woman's nudes and more) by my abuser and nobody cares and I'm really tired.Don't forget coercion and gaslighting. | /r/MensRights | 16/11/21 10:52 PM |
| 6 | The wasted timeIt seems 50ish is the male/father age area. Can you imagine what kind of situation you'd be in 10+ years from now had it kept going? I'm sorry it happened this way for you but try to hold on to the great things that did happen and you experienced. There's now way you can say from your current vantage point that anything was wasted. You never know what good things this opportunity is opening up for you and what you're now prepared for. I don't know if you have kids and their current ages but your… | /r/Divorce_Men | 16/11/21 10:48 PM |
| 2 | The complete lack of awareness confounds meThat wasn't my intention, but reading through it all again I can absolutely understand how it seems that way. "subject of the picture was black men and you couldn’t help but minimize me and make it about you" - This is the part that I get. All apologies. I think I should've left my comment for another sub. I didn't realize it'd minimize you or your point. You make sense. I'll work on this with my interactions because racism and prejudice destroys so many POC's lives and there needs to be a undis… | /r/MensRights | 15/11/21 09:32 PM |
| 4 | Grabbed my food and kept it moving…This resonated with me. I've been through the abuse; by Ex AND the court system, and lost everything too. Only have my child every other weekend. The idea of that happy life is what I really lost. Not the actual life itself. I'm really only mourning the vision in my head of what future me would be. It was never reality anyway. | /r/Divorce_Men | 15/11/21 09:19 PM |
| 1 | Another Man Will Have More Time With My Child Than MeIt's good they even listened to what you said when you 'proved' yourself innocent. I had reams of evidence, witnesses, video, proof of alienation. It just didn't matter one it. The fix was in from the start. I'm talking a multiple day custody hearing too. My marriage was abusive as well. And I was punished for getting out. By her first and foremost (keeping my child away), the judge, her attorney, and even mine to a point. I didn't even realize how abusive my marriage was until I got further awa… | /r/Divorce_Men | 15/11/21 04:52 AM |
| 2 | I Relate to This Video So Hard. How Many of Us Are There?I am the person from the video, but not THE person from the video who made it. I think everyone should see it before marriage though. When I think of losing the 'love of my life', I now think it was only my vision of what I thought that person was I was in love with, if that makes sense. It was only what I thought future life would be like. There was really nothing she did that would've bore that vision out. You have your child and that is so precious and important. Maybe she'll come back into h… | /r/Divorce_Men | 15/11/21 04:05 AM |
| 1 | I Relate to This Video So Hard. How Many of Us Are There?I'm so sorry for what you're going through. I keep telling myself this doesn't define me. I have to keep the focus on my health, my child, and contributing to get attention to what we are all going through so future children and parents will not have to endure the abuse of the family court system. | /r/Divorce_Men | 15/11/21 03:42 AM |
| 25 | There is unbearable amount of news of moms hurting their children. We need to fight the consensus that single moms are better by default than single dads for their kids. Mom Charged With Vicious Murder of a Baby Boy.Oh no. I am so sorry. If you don't mind me asking... where is/was dad? | /r/MensRights | 15/11/21 02:45 AM |
| 10 | There is unbearable amount of news of moms hurting their children. We need to fight the consensus that single moms are better by default than single dads for their kids. Mom Charged With Vicious Murder of a Baby Boy.Please link to sources so we all can learn where to find the data and point others. | /r/MensRights | 15/11/21 02:44 AM |
| 3 | Found out she’s selling pussy while keeping my daughter from meShe could be saving up for a lawyer......Just a thought. | /r/Divorce_Men | 15/11/21 02:30 AM |
| 2 | So confused and heart broken but doing this to save my life and help my children (could use advice)It should be required reading before getting married. I think it may be my future wedding gift to grooms. It'll be a hit I'm sure. | /r/Divorce_Men | 15/11/21 02:28 AM |
| 2 | So confused and heart broken but doing this to save my life and help my children (could use advice)Yes, I agree. And I'm so sorry for what happened to you. You're right too. I need to be more clear to add: Have security surveillance cameras or audio running 24/7. It's so difficult. In a system with no burden of proof, unchecked judicial powers, parent's own attorneys working against them it's difficult to know what to do. If you leave- you abandon your family and lose any rights to your child having you as their father.. If you stay you risk false allegations that can ruin your life. My situa… | /r/Divorce_Men | 15/11/21 02:16 AM |
| 11 | I'm joining this little clubRead all of these comments and act NOW. Move back in . Send a text to document that you live there. You will be accused of abandoning your family. When you get back in have your camera or house security cams at the ready as there will most likely be a call to the police for 'domestic violence'. No it won't be true but the police will be called for it and it will be one more thing you will have to overcome. If you ate the house husband, why are you moving out anyway? You may have a better chance … | /r/Divorce_Men | 15/11/21 01:41 AM |
| 8 | So confused and heart broken but doing this to save my life and help my children (could use advice)My hot take: She has been planning to divorce for at least a year. She found her dream home that she will get in the divorce and forever proceeds from your business. She is spending money because it will be a big factor (more money)in the money you will have to give her before the divorce is final (post separation support) because 'keeping the current standard of living' is the goal when this is decided. It will also factor in alimony too - more money for her. You are her worker bee and have pro… | /r/Divorce_Men | 13/11/21 02:21 PM |
| 5 | Since I've been divorced I've had to contact law enforcement around a dozen times regarding enforcing my custody time with my children. I've had my ex attack a process server with her car and take the kids out of state violating two separate court orders and dealt with neglect of their healthcare.I'm sorry you're dealing with this. It seems pretty par for the course from what I'm learning in my 2.5 years so far. The real sad thing is how a family court system and judge really want do much about it to help your kids. I have learned violating court orders means nothing in family court. Burden of proof means nothing in family court. But above all: "best interest of the children" really means nothing in family court. There are no official judicial guidelines for what that even means. It's a … | /r/Divorce_Men | 12/11/21 10:30 PM |
| 1 | Another Man Will Have More Time With My Child Than MeI absolutely do. My only child. I have provided a proper home for the duration of the marriage. Submitted many pictures of it and the child's own room to the court. The other was living with a roommate and did not have a separate room, had moved 2x in the span of a year (not very stable). Are you familiar with the family court system? Serious question because the more stories I learn about I sometimes think I'm actually one of the fortunate ones that gets to see my child at all. | /r/Divorce_Men | 12/11/21 07:59 PM |
| 2 | Another Man Will Have More Time With My Child Than MeStay strong, and you have my empathy. Something that seems to hep me a bit is to focus on the system that doesn't appeal to our better angels. If I focus there I feel like I'm doing something for the future and others and don't stay as focused on my situation. Thanks for sharing your story. I think it needs to be heard far, wide, and loud so others know what's happening to children and parents. | /r/Divorce_Men | 12/11/21 03:22 PM |
| 2 | Another Man Will Have More Time With My Child Than MeWhat seems to be helping me at this point is trying to bring awareness and work towards doing something about it so future children and future parents won't have to endure this. Try to focus on the system that allowed this behavior to come out of someone rather the someone. Ultimately there's no getting over it. Acceptance and forgiveness like u/Funny_Wolverine_9 says. Pretty wise. I tell myself I can't let it change my core and life outlook and I will remain positive. For myself and my child. | /r/Divorce_Men | 12/11/21 03:19 PM |
| 1 | Another Man Will Have More Time With My Child Than MeThe deeper I go down the rabbit hole the more heartbreaking stories like this I find. | /r/Divorce_Men | 12/11/21 03:15 PM |
| 2 | Another Man Will Have More Time With My Child Than MeYep- It seems to be a common tactic along with child abuse and fearing for their 'safety'. It's coercion and manipulation. | /r/Divorce_Men | 12/11/21 03:14 PM |
| 1 | Another Man Will Have More Time With My Child Than MeWhat are your thoughts on the video? | /r/Divorce_Men | 12/11/21 03:12 PM |
| 1 | Another Man Will Have More Time With My Child Than MeWell, that was enlightening and a clear representation of how fathers are viewed. Complete with laughter and clapping. WTF? | /r/Divorce_Men | 12/11/21 03:11 PM |
| 1 | Another Man Will Have More Time With My Child Than MeRight. I completely agree with college sentiment and was really meaning 'future funds' for my child. College was really a bad example of that. BUT a couple of things: 1) I'm out of money-totally. Hiring another attorney involves too much up front. Also, time. I'm too busy working to pay off debts cause by the divorce and have to make the child support payments or well... we know what happens then. Interest, arrears, maybe jail. 2) Going down this rabbit hole, I've learned all of the family attor… | /r/Divorce_Men | 12/11/21 03:09 PM |
| 3 | Almost teared up in front of policeThis is good advice and a smart view point. Could you possibly go into more detail? Like, example of the attacks and how you handled it. I know there's parallel parenting and the apps ( use), but I want to be on the lookout for ways to avoid this happening. I'm sure it's the next step. | /r/Divorce_Men | 10/11/21 04:29 PM |
| 1 | Another Man Will Have More Time With My Child Than MeUnchecked judicial power that she abuses. I really don't think a person who hasn't been through it realizes it even goers on. Sure. people say "blood-sucking lawyers, and this and that. People know someone who's "just mad because they have to pay child support..."" blah blah. But this is real and it happens to children every day. Judge was voted in and actually ran unopposed last election. It's a racket. My attorney was/is in on it. I hear people say get an attorney that is no where near the cou… | /r/Divorce_Men | 10/11/21 06:07 AM |
| 1 | Another Man Will Have More Time With My Child Than MeUnderstandable, for sure. | /r/Divorce_Men | 10/11/21 01:08 AM |
| 1 | Another Man Will Have More Time With My Child Than MeI see that and it makes sense. But, 1) I waited a while to get married so I'm older now and 2) I really have no time because I'm working working working to pay for all the costs, alimony, and child support and 3) Honestly, my self worth has suffered. I feel like I've been abused by ex, system, judge, and 2 attorneys. I have a lot of healing to do before I'm any good for anybody, especially to have another child. I hope it want be too late. I don't know, my head is very far from that now- but you… | /r/Divorce_Men | 10/11/21 01:08 AM |
| 2 | Another Man Will Have More Time With My Child Than MeI think a lot of those comments seem like they are the product of growing up away from their fathers by mothers that have talked bad about their dads their whole life and probably alienated them. It's self-perpetuating the problem. | /r/Divorce_Men | 10/11/21 01:04 AM |
| 1 | Another Man Will Have More Time With My Child Than MeThat puts it in perspective. Wow. | /r/Divorce_Men | 10/11/21 01:00 AM |
| 1 | Another Man Will Have More Time With My Child Than MeI like your style. Your absolutely right. | /r/Divorce_Men | 10/11/21 01:00 AM |
| 1 | Another Man Will Have More Time With My Child Than MeSo true, and I am sorry about you experiencing the Parental Alienation. There are groups in TX that are fighting to have custody support orders enforced. As it is now police will 'not get involved in fam court issues. Imagine that- they get involved in everything EXCEPT when it comes to fathers wanting to see their kids. Parental Alienation (my ex did it too) is so detrimental to children. There are many studies that point to this. How many kids are growing up away from a parent the state took a… | /r/Divorce_Men | 10/11/21 12:57 AM |
| 2 | Another Man Will Have More Time With My Child Than MeAll good and I appreciate the good words and feeling for my cause. Endless stories is right. Deadbeat dads because the state takes fathers away from children. My new saying is: "End the Patriarchy, fathers can raise children too." I would never encourage anyone to get a marriage license and couples have a plan figured out in case/when their marriage goes south. | /r/Divorce_Men | 10/11/21 12:51 AM |
| 1 | Another Man Will Have More Time With My Child Than MeEx had nothing. I had all the evidence, testimony, witnesses. Proving parental alienation and more. | /r/Divorce_Men | 10/11/21 12:49 AM |
| 2 | Another Man Will Have More Time With My Child Than MeThank you and yes I have a lawyer... A LOT of money gone - wasted. My child's college fund basically. It's been devastating. | /r/Divorce_Men | 10/11/21 12:47 AM |
| 1 | Another Man Will Have More Time With My Child Than MeAll of this rings so true and I see what's coming down the road. 'Disney Dad" - I can't even take or pick my child up from school. I'm so sorry for your situation too, if that's what you were describing. | /r/Divorce_Men | 10/11/21 12:45 AM |
| 1 | Another Man Will Have More Time With My Child Than MeOh yes- Lots of money. My attorney- like most others, are in on it too. It's a billion dollar biz. Attorneys don't want parents working it out. They need the litigation. The industry thrives on the conflict and they all know parents will do anything, go to any lengths, pay any price for their kids. Just ask yourself: why there is no mandate for judges to start with the child having equal custody parent time. There is no judicial guideline for family court judges, no standard for burden of proof … | /r/Divorce_Men | 10/11/21 12:43 AM |
| 1 | Another Man Will Have More Time With My Child Than MeI have left nothing out. Your guy is a rare exception. My case isn't even as extreme as what I've heard on this journey. It's been devastating and I never thought such cruelty to children and parents existed in 'family court'. Really, just take a trip down any father's rights facebook group, any YT channel. Watch the movie Divorce Corp or The Red Pill. It's unbelievable. The damage that's happening to families who are already going through trauma is massive. I've got recordings of my multi-day c… | /r/Divorce_Men | 10/11/21 12:39 AM |
| 1 | Another Man Will Have More Time With My Child Than MeYou are truly the exception. Child support (title IV D is a federal program to where states get grants- free money from fed gov't to have a child support 'recovery' system. To the tune of 50-150 MILLLION free dollars a year. Therefore they have to have un-even custody. 20 years and no alimony. WOW. My alimony was 'negotiated' and it was a shakedown. By then it was made clear to me the judge would not be fair in my case and both MY attorney and the opposing attorney used this is the 'negotiation'… | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/11/21 11:45 PM |
| 1 | Another Man Will Have More Time With My Child Than MeThanks for the empathy. Funny you mention parenting plan. I also had a very thorough parenting plan to work out all the details, fairly, and tried to anticipate future conflict and have a way to approach it so there'd be no need for litigation: Ignored. But it makes sense when you thin about it. Why would the courts and attorneys want parents to work it out? That's just not a good business model. Kind of like inventing the perfect light bulb that never burns out. How are you going to profit. Lik… | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/11/21 11:06 PM |
| 1 | Another Man Will Have More Time With My Child Than MeI appreciate the empathy. In the south. Custody was a multi day hearing with my witnesses, bulging at the seams evidence book, and hours of testimony. Nothing made any difference. 'Mommy Judge'. Corrupt system that hides behind 'best interest of the child'. My child has bee hurt so much by the parental alienation. Nothing mattered. I'm a visitor. Always accusations they use and there's no burden of proof for the judge. I spent most of the hearing with everything professional I had and proved my … | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/11/21 10:34 PM |
| 1 | Another Man Will Have More Time With My Child Than MeIt's amazing the stories I hear father going through, due to mommy judges. Sorry about your circumstances. | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/11/21 06:08 PM |
| 2 | Another Man Will Have More Time With My Child Than MeThanks, yea the one positive I'm taking away is that we have very focused, quality time. I appreciate it. | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/11/21 06:07 PM |
| 7 | Another Man Will Have More Time With My Child Than MeRight. Well, I was you with the ex before we married and had a child. I know your perspective. Had a step child when the kid was young. There were so many signs then that I ignored. You're a good person for doing that. I took pride in being that father figure and helping raise that kid. It looks like she's 2 for 2 now and a 3rd is moving in. I'm very close by and still only a few days per month. I'd like to be able to do what's best for my child, but I'm not even able to take or pick up from sch… | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/11/21 05:50 AM |
| 10 | Another Man Will Have More Time With My Child Than MeI'm sorry to hear this and I've been amazed at the stories that are worse than mine. Family court is the racket. No burden of proof needed. Judges power goes unchecked. Corrupt child support system. And there are so many fathers (and a few mothers) that go through it. There needs to be some sort of collective organizing from all the fractured little groups. I think by the time parents figure out what's happening they're broke, tired, emotionally drained from the court and ex abuse, and have to w… | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/11/21 05:42 AM |
| 3 | Another Man Will Have More Time With My Child Than MeReceiving. Many thanks. | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/11/21 05:36 AM |
| 7 | Another Man Will Have More Time With My Child Than MeThe judge is known as a 'mommy judge' by reputation. The judge did see the father I am' . The family court system doesn't mandate judges start at equal shared parenting time in 48 of the 50 states currently. It was a a long custody hearing (many days) with me having mounds of evidence, many witnesses, and a clear violation of the temporary custody order (parental alienation). The hearing was mostly my part of the case. None of it mattered. Not. one. bit. The system hides behind the saying '"best… | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/11/21 05:36 AM |
| 3 | Another Man Will Have More Time With My Child Than MeGood perspective and advice. This is where I'm heading, but I have a feeling the other long game is to move out of state. But this is a really good view and idea on how to play the long game. I have been wondering how long it will taker for him to see what I saw. | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/11/21 05:24 AM |
| 3 | Another Man Will Have More Time With My Child Than MeMan, that was hilarious and heart wrenching at the same time. And brutally honest. I appreciate that too. Being nice just gets you fucked - This is a tough lesson I should've learned before this. But I can't let it change me like that. I have to hold on to my core. But not be stupid. It's tough. | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/11/21 05:21 AM |
| 1 | Another Man Will Have More Time With My Child Than MeRight - manipulation and coercion (especially with children and the relationship to the other parent) are the methods. Social Media is a narcissist best friend. | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/11/21 05:16 AM |
| 2 | Another Man Will Have More Time With My Child Than MeYep- the family court system knows this too. It's a 60ish billion dollar industry. States also get millions in grants for Title IV D funding. Free money for states to ensure UNequal parenting time so there is child support to pay. Like most things, follow the Money. | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/11/21 01:17 AM |
| 2 | Another Man Will Have More Time With My Child Than MeThere's so much science and studies that back up what you believe. Judges know it, attorneys know it, State and Fed representatives know it. They just don't care because they're making so much money off of destroying already broken families. I'm not a fan of HRC but I don't want to be played by being divided. M vs F, Dem vs Repub, Feminists vs....everyone else. I think we have to frame it as a parent issue so we don't alienate anyone. It is mostly fathers, we know that, but we need all parents o… | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/11/21 01:14 AM |
| 3 | Another Man Will Have More Time With My Child Than MeYes I have. I cam across a "Progressive Feminist" that is really refreshing and we need to rally around that cause as well. While of course it's mostly fathers, I have seen Mothers stripped of their rights too. I think playing the male vs female game is a part of the game to divide us so we don't organize as ALL parents. Youtube video: Emma Johnson - Progressive Feminist GENDER EQUALITY DEMANDS EQUAL SHARED PARENTING | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/11/21 01:08 AM |
| 11 | Another Man Will Have More Time With My Child Than MeRight, and I am. She already has one parent doing that and I plan to just let that parent be revealed to her. I won't say anything negative and the time we o get is high quality and super focused. But wow - this is hurting. | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/11/21 01:03 AM |
| 15 | Another Man Will Have More Time With My Child Than MeHumor accepted, even if dark. I can't believe there is an inability for all of the parents who've been alienated from the children by the state to organize under one umbrella and let the sun shine in on this dark, corrupt institution. I empathize with your situation as well. | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/11/21 01:01 AM |
| 1 | The complete lack of awareness confounds meI'm in agreement with you. I never downplayed either issue. I was confirming what you were saying and adding that all fathers are treated this way. I get your point about racism and know we have to fix all systemic racism and misandry (contempt for men). I know the problem is compounded when race is involved too. Jails, judges, attorneys, the court system, AND the family court system are ALL used to remove fathers from their children which cause the children to suffer and in turn future generati… | /r/MensRights | 07/11/21 11:51 PM |
| 12 | The complete lack of awareness confounds meNot just black neighborhoods but MOST children lose their fathers in the family court system. Next time we hear the term 'deadbeat dad', remember the state, judges, and attorneys, that are all in on the scam, forced fathers out of the kid's lives. | /r/MensRights | 27/10/21 09:32 PM |
| 14 | The complete lack of awareness confounds meShe's criticizing the unfair treatment of fathers by the judicial system compared to mothers. ~ This is absolutely true and so many fathers are being turned in to visitors of their children every single day. From a father to 4 days per month, on weekends. Then they are expected to pay money, that's unaccounted for for, to support the child the state took away from them instead of allowing them to support the child while they share custody. I also believe she was pointing to the disproportionate … | /r/MensRights | 27/10/21 09:29 PM |
| 1 | Parent's Rights Class Action LawsuitI agree, it's wonky. What I have found on my journey through my ordeal is other parents that have had their civil rights violated, children taken away, and just obliterated by the family court system that get so angry they try and try anything to get help. Then, they run out of money, time, energy, and are so brat down they give up. So many Facebook pages that aren't updated for a year or two. The desperation of the situation makes them want to do something but the situation the family court sys… | /r/Divorce_Men | 27/10/21 08:50 PM |
| 1 | Parent's Rights Class Action LawsuitI didn't see where you send any money. No social security number or bank account info. I guess I'm hoping against hope there's a way to fix the family court system for future parents that loose their children, legally. I appreciate the run-down. | /r/Divorce_Men | 20/10/21 12:38 PM |
| 1 | Go work at the dirtiest, most dangerous job that will kill you 13 X more. Receive less educational and health care dollars. Subsidize women financially. Receive harsher verdicts in courts and in case of divorce lose access to your own kids. Congratulations. You are a member of the Patriarchy.Well said. | /r/MensRights | 19/10/21 10:40 PM |
| 1 | MSC (Mandatory Settlement Conference) woahsI just stumbled on this: http://www.parentalrightsclassaction.com/ pass it along to the ones that need the advice offered and to join the class action. | /r/Divorce_Men | 19/10/21 10:39 PM |
| 1 | Go work at the dirtiest, most dangerous job that will kill you 13 X more. Receive less educational and health care dollars. Subsidize women financially. Receive harsher verdicts in courts and in case of divorce lose access to your own kids. Congratulations. You are a member of the Patriarchy.Thank you. Please help all of us by letting anyone you can know about the corruption of the family court system. There needs to be awareness to what's happening to ALL parents. Parents and children are loosing their civil rights everyday. The effect on the country as a whole drastic. Essentially, you have states tearing children away from their parents. Shared, equal 50/50 time should be mandated. "The Best Interest of the Child" is a charade the system hides behind. If it was true, equal time w… | /r/MensRights | 13/10/21 06:34 PM |
| 2 | Go work at the dirtiest, most dangerous job that will kill you 13 X more. Receive less educational and health care dollars. Subsidize women financially. Receive harsher verdicts in courts and in case of divorce lose access to your own kids. Congratulations. You are a member of the Patriarchy.Right, and speaking of the data, I think the surveyed jobs are restaurant, part time, childcare jobs. Jobs that historically pay less. They aren't surveying women in corporate jobs. They give the impression that 2 workers at a company do the exact same job and a women gets paid less for it. I don't think that's accurate. This charade is another reason to make ALL incomes paid by ALL employers transparent. Employers should have nothing to hide. Hiding pay enables wealth inequality in general, not… | /r/MensRights | 13/10/21 06:30 PM |
| 13 | MSC (Mandatory Settlement Conference) woahsThis is a happy story. A RARE happy story. Glad to hear it. My alimony was a shakedown that her attorney, my attorney, and the judge all participated in. The 2 attorneys 'negotiated' back and forth. All with the backdrop of: "well, you should take this because you know this judge is a "mommy" judge, you've already seen how she turned you into a visitor to your child for no reason at all. They did 'negotiations' in the courthouse, under a threat of going in front of the judge if negotiations don'… | /r/Divorce_Men | 13/10/21 06:23 PM |
| 0 | Go work at the dirtiest, most dangerous job that will kill you 13 X more. Receive less educational and health care dollars. Subsidize women financially. Receive harsher verdicts in courts and in case of divorce lose access to your own kids. Congratulations. You are a member of the Patriarchy.I'm going to agree with you. And also say this pitting the genders against each other is the same concept as pitting races and political parties against each other. Done to divide so nothing can get accomplished to change the actual problem. The problem is, as it always has been, found when you follow the money. | /r/MensRights | 27/09/21 12:00 AM |
| 2 | Go work at the dirtiest, most dangerous job that will kill you 13 X more. Receive less educational and health care dollars. Subsidize women financially. Receive harsher verdicts in courts and in case of divorce lose access to your own kids. Congratulations. You are a member of the Patriarchy.You're such a breath of fresh air. I'll also say I know a mother who lost her child by the courts. It's mostly, but not all men. The real issues we need help with are actually constitutional civil rights. There is no burden of proof in family court, no 'innocent until proven guilty standard, and no equal protection under the law. Family court is different court system that was specifically created to seize money. I think the next time you're in a conversation with anyone you can frame it as Gran… | /r/MensRights | 26/09/21 11:51 PM |
| 0 | Go work at the dirtiest, most dangerous job that will kill you 13 X more. Receive less educational and health care dollars. Subsidize women financially. Receive harsher verdicts in courts and in case of divorce lose access to your own kids. Congratulations. You are a member of the Patriarchy.Wow. Eye opening. I only have my child 6 nights/month. Only weekends. I can't even take or picj my child up from school. Father to visitor. Had a decent job and was a rare opportunity before Covid and lost it too. I'm expecting the same treatment. If you don't pay child support you go to jail. This is the same as debtors prison. They figured out s way to have it even though "there's no such thing" anymore. Like your friend I've also learned court orders mean nothing when it comes to mother's beh… | /r/MensRights | 26/09/21 11:44 PM |
| 2 | Go work at the dirtiest, most dangerous job that will kill you 13 X more. Receive less educational and health care dollars. Subsidize women financially. Receive harsher verdicts in courts and in case of divorce lose access to your own kids. Congratulations. You are a member of the Patriarchy.Thank you for what you do. Sincerely. | /r/MensRights | 26/09/21 11:35 PM |
| 0 | Go work at the dirtiest, most dangerous job that will kill you 13 X more. Receive less educational and health care dollars. Subsidize women financially. Receive harsher verdicts in courts and in case of divorce lose access to your own kids. Congratulations. You are a member of the Patriarchy.I tend to agree with the premise. Patriarchy claims men cannot raise children, claims women cannot provide for themselves and/or children. Family Court statistics bear this out. | /r/MensRights | 26/09/21 11:33 PM |
| 0 | Go work at the dirtiest, most dangerous job that will kill you 13 X more. Receive less educational and health care dollars. Subsidize women financially. Receive harsher verdicts in courts and in case of divorce lose access to your own kids. Congratulations. You are a member of the Patriarchy."boogeyman" <- Sexist term there. | /r/MensRights | 26/09/21 11:30 PM |
| 3 | Go work at the dirtiest, most dangerous job that will kill you 13 X more. Receive less educational and health care dollars. Subsidize women financially. Receive harsher verdicts in courts and in case of divorce lose access to your own kids. Congratulations. You are a member of the Patriarchy.Seems more like revenge than equality. | /r/MensRights | 26/09/21 11:29 PM |
| 1 | Go work at the dirtiest, most dangerous job that will kill you 13 X more. Receive less educational and health care dollars. Subsidize women financially. Receive harsher verdicts in courts and in case of divorce lose access to your own kids. Congratulations. You are a member of the Patriarchy.This is all really informative. I think the social stigma is what isn't getting the issue of a corrupt family court system noticed. (US- but probably everywhere) You're also right that men don't economic, emotion, moral or any support what-so-ever. It's a system that's been rigged by states that receive large financial incentives to have child support that's propagated by Judges, Divorce Attorneys, 'women's rights groups, and state representatives. It's simply supported by the social stigma. Mos… | /r/MensRights | 26/09/21 11:23 PM |
| 3 | Go work at the dirtiest, most dangerous job that will kill you 13 X more. Receive less educational and health care dollars. Subsidize women financially. Receive harsher verdicts in courts and in case of divorce lose access to your own kids. Congratulations. You are a member of the Patriarchy.So, what about the 'pay gap' I hear so much about? I though women earned significantly less. | /r/MensRights | 26/09/21 11:16 PM |
| 15 | Go work at the dirtiest, most dangerous job that will kill you 13 X more. Receive less educational and health care dollars. Subsidize women financially. Receive harsher verdicts in courts and in case of divorce lose access to your own kids. Congratulations. You are a member of the Patriarchy.Parents (mostly Fathers) turned into visitors by the state of their children, by the state, in an instant. Map: Father/Child Percentage Each State Reframe this issue when speaking with people about it. Ex: How Much Time do your sons get with their children? How much time do paternal grandmothers and grandfathers get to spend with their grandchildren? Support Equal Sharing 50/50 Custody groups in your state. We have to let sunshine in on this problem. Divorce is a $60 BILLION /year industry. Chil… | /r/MensRights | 24/09/21 05:08 PM |
| 1 | Update from my separation from last weekWhich of you had the largest income for the duration of the marriage? IMO it's a good chance she did the work with the card since you're not able to see statements. I'm guessing she deposited the $100k into unknown institutions from the card. I wonder why your attorney isn't just pushing subpoenas if she's already pushing back on simple discovery. Not sure about your state but I'd be going after that. I'm no attorney though. It's curious how he said 3k to do it. Well, it actually makes since kno… | /r/Divorce_Men | 17/09/21 02:59 PM |
| 1 | Update from my separation from last weekSorry for late response. If she's not producing documents- she's hiding things IMO. Don't be so sure she wouldn't be able to figure out digital currency. Would you think she'd do any of this at all? It's easy to have a digital wallet. Always has been. I wouldn't assume that at all. Especially if she's been planning. Which is usually the case. She's been planning for years. She could've gone to Walmart over the last 4 years and gotten cash back every time, made extra trips, gone to different stor… | /r/Divorce_Men | 14/09/21 04:02 PM |
| 5 | Update from my separation from last weekWhen this happened to me I learned it's a common story and tactic used. Squander any family funds because generally speaking the wife is in charge of the finances. You know, trust your life partner and all. My biggest mistake. Go to the bank and request all the records you can. Then just go straight for the subpoena. Don't mess around. If it doesn't make sense to hire a forensic accountant. Do the work yourself by comparing the bank records you can get from your bank. Maybe do this first and loo… | /r/Divorce_Men | 01/09/21 04:06 PM |
| 1 | People think women have it so much harder in life and that's ridiculousDon't forget fathers loosing their kids in family court. Unable to defend false accusations because there's no burden of proof. Judges believe children only belong to the mother and there is no standard of equal time spent with both parents. This discrimination also effects children. Family courts turn fathers into visitors and ATM machine through the over burden of amount of child support payments mothers are awarded. Delve into this. You'll be astonished at what's happening in America and all … | /r/MensRights | 13/08/21 08:15 AM |
| 6 | I can't keep it together anymore.This is family court. The only court where no proof is needed and any proof to refute false claims is ignored. The judges, Family Court attorneys, everyone is in on it. The father (mostly) will loose all civil rights and it's all legal in a 50+ billion industry created and supported by a lobbyist who are.......lawyers. Here we have: Capitalized Justice. Turn to activism. Once you see the system for what it is and has done to Parents (Mostly Fathers) you can do something for the cause. Channel th… | /r/Divorce_Men | 11/08/21 09:58 PM |
| 4 | Female filmmakers denounce festival prize for Johnny DeppThis is family court. The only court where no proof is needed and any proof to refute false claims is ignored. The judges, Family Court attorneys, everyone is in on it. The father (mostly) will loose all civil rights and it's all legal in a 50+ billion industry created and supported by a lobbyist who are.......lawyers. Welcome to Capitalized Justice. | /r/MensRights | 11/08/21 09:48 PM |
| 1 | Budgeting for seperated life feels... underwhelming. Alimony will only last until the divorce though so there's that to look forward toYep, agreed. We have to raise awareness. Transparency. Call out judges and attorneys. Let as many people know what's happening. It's much worse with kids too. Aside from the trauma they're put through. You loose them. AND THEN the money extortion portion of the proceedings begin. It's literally insult to injury. Then how do you recover to be there for your children when they ate older. Lawyers have sponsored this whole process. The one who makes the most income is the blood in the water for the … | /r/Divorce_Men | 10/08/21 08:47 AM |
| 2 | Need adviceMan, I'm so sorry. Just know, you're above all of this. You keep right for the ones you love. Do some sort of activism for the cause when you can. Transparency in your case. Tell people you know what's happening to you. The awareness level of what's happening needs to rise. | /r/Divorce_Men | 10/08/21 08:40 AM |
| 2 | 2 years later it continuesWell, if we're involved in the fam court system, it's up to us too. Not just other people. Parents (mostly Fathers) and children are suffering and damaged every single day in this system. While the lawyers get richer, richer, richer. They love the conflict and deliberately set parents up for conflict. | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/08/21 11:50 PM |
| 2 | 2 years later it continuesI think it's too hard for people to keep up the effort of a page, make a living to feed the beast, keep from being depressed, when no one pays attention til it happens to them. It's made to keep people unorganized so there's status quo. | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/08/21 11:30 PM |
| 1 | Budgeting for seperated life feels... underwhelming. Alimony will only last until the divorce though so there's that to look forward toRight, I forgot the " + " sign. What I see missing is cohesion. I think if it's framed as children's civil rights and highlight how children are being ripped from their parents (which is true) and don't just call it "father's" right. Call it Parent's Rights to include mother's too. There are a lot of Mom's that loose custody too. Not near as many of course. Ultimately, it's a Civil Right's issue. I've been exploring https://fixfamilycourts.com/ Good points here and actual actions. The ones in th… | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/08/21 10:52 PM |
| 1 | 2 years later it continuesThat worksheet really means nothing in my case and researching in Father's Rights groups. Just like court orders. Doesn't mean any more than the paper it's typed and written on. Judges rule supreme and fathers are food for the family court beast. | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/08/21 09:51 PM |
| 1 | 2 years later it continuesNah- nice sentiment. The worksheet does not supersede what ever a judge wants to happen. It's like the saying "best interest of the child". Nice happy talk and thoughts. But really, judges have complete discretion to do whatever they want. And most turn fathers into visitors and ATM machines. Poke around on FB for Father's Rights groups. You get an accurate picture as to what's really happening in family court. | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/08/21 09:48 PM |
| 2 | 2 years later it continuesThere's "supposed" to happen. Then there's what Judges make happen. Unfortunately, for fathers - it's very, very rare they pay no child support. Most get their children taken away in order to pay the system more child support. There needs to be more cohesive groups of activist. | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/08/21 09:45 PM |
| 2 | Need adviceThis is so true. Just one call to the house for domestic violence will give her all she needs to add a DV to whatever she's planning. A common tactic. Even if for some reason you don't go to jail. The cops have still been called for DV and a judge's and attorneys love this. It's a catch 22. Leave the home and you're abandoning the family. Stay and get a fake domestic violence charge. Family court- the billion dollar beast of an American industry. | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/08/21 09:39 PM |
| 1 | Is there a support group similar to AA that I can participate in? Feeling lonely and fearful.Men's group, activist group, class action lawsuit group is more like it. | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/08/21 09:33 PM |
| 2 | Budgeting for seperated life feels... underwhelming. Alimony will only last until the divorce though so there's that to look forward toAre you sure this isn't just Post Separation Support for the 1 year period. Then you will be "negotiating" or have a hearing on the amount of alimony you'll pay? Depending on state, I believe it's around half of the length of marriage at the 10 year mark. | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/08/21 09:32 PM |
| 1 | Budgeting for seperated life feels... underwhelming. Alimony will only last until the divorce though so there's that to look forward toRight. It's amazing the amount of civil rights I've lost in this process. I can't believe there haven't been any visible class action lawsuits against this "family court" system. | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/08/21 09:30 PM |
| 1 | Budgeting for seperated life feels... underwhelming. Alimony will only last until the divorce though so there's that to look forward toI am so sorry. WOW. Everyone needs to be some type of activists during and after their experience in the billion dollar industry that is the family court system. | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/08/21 09:28 PM |
| 1 | Questions to ask lawyer (TX)You have a unique perspective on how she'll fight you if you've been with her in the same type of legal battles. | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/08/21 09:24 PM |
| 1 | Questions to ask lawyer (TX)This. | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/08/21 09:23 PM |
| 1 | Questions to ask lawyer (TX)No! You're a man. You will loose your civil rights and your child will loose their civil right to be with you equally. Be involved with our kid. Tell your lawyer to file pre trial motions that assert and protect your federal civil rights. 14th Amendment. Equal protection under the law. Family court is a beast of a billion, billion dollar industry fed by couples that don't get along in divorce and go to court along with lobbying groups made up of.....lawyers. If you've adopted the other 2 she wil… | /r/Divorce_Men | 09/08/21 09:20 PM |
| 3 | Brand-New Study Released: "Male Victims of Coercive Control Experiences and Impact."Exactly right. I also wonder how many men don't realize they're in abusive relationships or have been the victim of coercive control. I never realized until AFTER I was away from the situation just how abusive it was. I had been conditioned myself by our culture. I'm embarrassed to even say I had no idea. I thought it was just the way it was and accepted it. I never realized the level of abuse and coercion that was taking place until I got further away from it. Then I got to experience a whole n… | /r/MensRights | 02/07/21 08:27 PM |
| 1 | I hope my lawyer is right…"The truth and the evidence don't matter. Fuck, even the laws don't matter. It's all about how much money you have for unethical lawyers. The whole system should be burned to the ground with the judges and lawyers tied-up inside." This. It's also amazing how in Civil Court you have no Civil Rights. I am at the point to where I think I need to get the press involved. There needs to be some investigative journalism as to what's going on in that courtroom. I think if more eyes were on the situation… | /r/Divorce_Men | 21/06/21 03:25 PM |
| 1 | Friday night! Anyone else doing jack shit tonight? Woo-woo!Yes. You're right and I agree. I'm laying that suitcase down and walking away from it. I'm not going to carry it around any more. I'm not letting this system take anymore away from me than it already has. I'm refusing to give it, or her that permission. Time will be the great equalizer, man. Godspeed! | /r/Divorce_Men | 19/06/21 01:13 AM |
| 4 | Thought this belonged here.It does belong. Thank you. It's good to know I'm not alone. | /r/Divorce_Men | 24/12/20 05:23 AM |
| 1 | Suspicious Holiday Visit TermsThis is how I feel but this time is outside of the time specified in agreement. Atty says it's been so long since seeing child that it will not look good to turn down offered time. Have filed contempt motion but not on calendar til later. Other party is absolutely dictating my time. I'm amazed by new kid therapist's lack of concern for this despite the 'co-parenting' mantra. Has expressed a 'willingness from me to co-parent more in best interest of child'. I'm thinking was hand picked to be 'pro… | /r/Divorce_Men | 24/12/20 12:33 AM |
| 1 | Suspicious Holiday Visit TermsWhy making it hard? - I'm sure that's what the new kid therapist is thinking too and I understand. I'm most likely going into the home of a couple. Which is the ultimate real reason for the shenanigans and how this whole process started. The gender makes it virtually impossible to prove. Once 2nd discovery comes back w/financial info it will be clearer, but that hasn't happened. Discovery could be the back against the wall moment that brings it all down. So, nothing to loose. Ex has graciously v… | /r/Divorce_Men | 24/12/20 12:12 AM |
| 2 | Refinancing/ MortgageWell, I'll share my experience. Gave the house (was in process of being rebuilt after she pulled shenanigans to not have it acquired through government assistance. It was destroyed in a natural disaster), the car (w/loan payments left). This was in May 2019 and the agreement was signed off by our attorneys and a judge. She has yet to take over the mortgage or get a new one. I paid it for as long as I could; many months. I don't know if she's even able to get a mortgage or refinanced at this poin… | /r/Divorce_Men | 18/11/20 05:48 PM |
| 1 | Please, need some guidanceAbsolutely. Been going through it since Feb. 2019. Things I never thought were possible have happened. In my experience so far, the court system does not see a father as equal in the equation. There is no 50 percent parental rights. You must go above and beyond any normal measure to even begin to have a chance of being a parent with joint custody of the children. It's deplorable. Feel free to DM as I'm always seeking help and support myself. It never hurts to have another set of eyes and ears to… | /r/Divorce_Men | 13/11/20 12:42 AM |
| 1 | Please, need some guidanceYour gut feeling is right. She's hiding parts of it. There's probably more issues too. The fact that she deflected and turned it back to you is typical behavior. As an earlier commenter mentioned, she's building a story to use against you. Do not let this go. The tone you set now will determine outcomes down the road. Do not play this game AT ALL. Always act as if a judge is looking over your shoulder. Calmly and civil. But be firm and do not accept anything other than total transparency. I'd su… | /r/Divorce_Men | 12/11/20 11:10 PM |
| 1 | Unusual Divorce Legal Court ProceedingsWhat purposes are you thinking? She did the ex parte. | /r/Divorce_Men | 05/11/20 01:41 AM |
| 1 | Unusual Divorce Legal Court ProceedingsThere are claims with no evidence. Claims I "abandoned" the family. Not true. I had to establish a date of separation. Was at the home after the date I did this was claimed. That's why the ex parte. None was needed. On the stand the claims were made again. No evidence. The therapist said nothing about me only that the children were seeing the therapist. Therapist also claimed I never asked to be at therapy. Not true, and this was proven with emails I'd sent to the therapist. The teacher and ther… | /r/Divorce_Men | 05/11/20 12:42 AM |
| 1 | Unusual Divorce Legal Court ProceedingsAs far as I know there was nothing he really could say. The judge just stopped one hearing and started another. It just happened. I do wish he would've objected and at least asked to be able to cross examine. Have you ever heard of a case just coming to a halt right after one side presents and then another hearing start? | /r/Divorce_Men | 03/11/20 08:00 PM |
| 1 | Unusual Divorce Legal Court ProceedingsI agree, but my attorney is really at the whim of the judge too so doesn't have anything to say about, really. It's really frustrating. When I read about Ex Parte there's a need for the hearing to be quick because one person is basically able to go to the court and say whatever they want. I know criminal and civil courts are different but it seems there'd be a basic process to protect one from what is happening to me. I appreciate your response. I search and search and can't find any information… | /r/Divorce_Men | 03/11/20 07:36 PM |
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