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Wise words man, wise words
/r/seduction04/06/21 12:15 AM
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Im bisexual can confirm, some people can just suck in general, man, woman, non-binary, whatever. better to just let go of the toxic ones
/r/seduction24/04/21 01:25 PM
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Human beings are completely unpredictable in as many ways as they are predictable. sometimes with certain things, its best to follow a loose script of sorts. but most often, you're better off going with the flow, even if that means dealing with things that dont make sense to you. Just dont be stupid about someone else being stupid.
/r/seduction01/04/21 12:15 AM
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you make a great point, thank you
/r/seduction31/03/21 12:39 AM
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Furthermore, the things people are insecure about and the things people put effort and passion into can overlap in several instances, so both of our points are somewhat true.
/r/seduction31/03/21 12:11 AM
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im Applying things i have learned from personal experience here. if my personal experience is 'wrong' then thats on me, but it would seem to me that people like to be complemented on things they put effort into. when ive complemented people on their insecurities, they often refuse the complement. then again, your personal experiences differ from mine so i cant say definitively that you are right or wrong, nor can you say definitively that i am right or wrong.
/r/seduction31/03/21 12:09 AM
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and now that ive asked you to back up your claims you backed off? suspicious...
/r/seduction31/03/21 12:03 AM
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please show me how i "always insult everyone every time i open my mouth". go on. search through my comment history. prove to me your strawman of me is accurately built. or you can continue to be rude.
/r/seduction30/03/21 11:57 PM
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Appearance is also something that you can put effort into. exercise, eating healthy, skincare, and so on are examples of that. so, my statement still applies.
/r/seduction30/03/21 11:24 PM
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i was using "dummy" here in an endearing context here, as i often do with my peers. im not one to genuinely insult people. please consider context before you make baseless assumptions and straw man me
/r/seduction30/03/21 11:23 PM
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Im more than aware of the effort it takes for all that. thats why people appreciate being complemented on those things they put effort into
/r/seduction30/03/21 11:20 PM
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That's exactly what I was alluding to dummy. Rare comments stick out edit: (im using 'dummy' here in an endearing context, as i do with most my peers. I generally do not genuinely insult others.)
/r/seduction30/03/21 05:55 PM
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If you complement people based on what they put effort or their personality into, they'll appreciate it much more than just complementing them on conventional attributes.
/r/seduction30/03/21 02:05 PM
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Its an unorganized, very loose cult-like environment however. its easy to get trapped in a mindset of misery and sorrow, and be enforced by the other people in that community to share their misery and sorrow. so yes, its cult-like in a way. its at the very least a terrible community that no heathy person should be apart of.
/r/ExRedPill14/03/21 09:31 PM
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that is not true. r/MensLib and r/bropill are much healthier spaces to speak about men's issues and your insecurities. the fact that you thing that pit of loathing is the only place you can express yourself demonstrates the cult mentality that you are trapped in. and dont go trying to argue against those subreddits i presented, i know from experience that you can express yourself in them and there are people there to help. also, i suggest getting a therapist, if you can.
/r/ExRedPill14/03/21 12:53 PM
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your little boxes or 'pills' that you like to put people and ideas in are not a good way to look at reality. please find a way to get yourself out of that limiting mentality. also, please leave r/ForeverAlone that community is not a good place for establishing a stable mental health and self esteem.
/r/ExRedPill14/03/21 05:08 AM
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This is to be expected. the ideologies of the Red Pill are by nature misogynistic and right-wing. I myself was drawn into inceldom and the alt-right for a while as a result of my redpill indoctrination. Luckily I was able to get out of that ideological pit, but i know that many others can fall into it.
/r/ExRedPill01/03/21 10:22 PM
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hell, a lot people can completely skip step 1 actually, maybe even step 2. there are plenty of people who are attracted to many different body types. the dad bod, the twink, the shortstack, the hunk, so on and so forth. guys, gals, and non-binary pals all have their own forms of sexuality and what they're attracted to. if you have a body type, chances are there is someone out there attracted to it. sure, some body types are more popular than others, but still a lot are more popular than you thin…
/r/ExRedPill31/01/21 05:34 AM
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i believe you can make that judgement on your own
/r/ExRedPill21/01/21 04:19 PM
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you can just ignore it and go on with your day without creating any unnecessary drama. Problem solved.
/r/ExRedPill21/01/21 02:55 AM
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then it should be clear that two month old comment shouldn't be taken too seriously.
/r/ExRedPill21/01/21 02:50 AM
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I wasn't complaining, just stating my observations.
/r/ExRedPill08/12/20 04:19 PM
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couldn't have said it better myself
/r/seduction30/11/20 11:37 PM
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i know. which is why its important to tackle fear of rejection, embarrassment, and humiliation at its core: being your esteem and ego.
/r/seduction30/11/20 10:49 PM
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well for someone who isnt as successful as the most valuable men, likely they wont have the esteem those men have, and rejections can take a toll on their ego, and can still feel humiliating personally even if those around them couldnt care less.
/r/seduction30/11/20 10:41 PM
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even if someone doesnt try to actively humiliate you, a rejection can still feel very humiliating. rather it be in the view of others or just between you and that other person, a rejection is still a very awkward, embarrassing, and humiliating experience for most people.
/r/seduction30/11/20 10:27 PM
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Ive heard that plenty of times. that can really be applied to anything in life and its too vague for me to really use. It doesnt tell me where to go, what people to try it with, how to discern wins from losses, etc. Trial and error will eventually get you to success but is such a waste of time without prior knowledge or personal developments
/r/seduction30/11/20 07:19 PM
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maybe
/r/ExRedPill26/11/20 03:35 AM
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im actually a dude but sure i can be a fine mistress
/r/ExRedPill26/11/20 03:17 AM
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i have! there's my dad, there's my many uncles, my grandparents, some parents of friends, several couples i know online and so on. there's plenty of happy married couples, its really just a matter of how compatible they are really. so yeah, there are people who are happily married, believe it or not. rather it be man and a women, man and a man, woman and a woman, whatever, they certainly exist!
/r/ExRedPill26/11/20 02:15 AM
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MGTOW is the dating equivalent of saying "you cant fire me, I quit!" and the entire reason they're being 'fired' in the first place is because they are an asshole, and/or only hang around other assholes
/r/ExRedPill26/11/20 02:03 AM
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never seen a happy redpiller. egotistcial and arrogant, for sure, but never one thats satisfied or happy with life.
/r/ExRedPill26/11/20 02:00 AM
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mr. nofapper with a milf fetish, im pretty sure that all those things apply to bascially anyone who just decides to date normally and doesnt marry, not just redpilled people
/r/ExRedPill26/11/20 01:58 AM
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sir this is r/exredpill for people getting out of your misogynistic ideology, i think youre at the wrong place. if you want you can return to r/conspiracy and continue ranting about your next biggest scapegoat.
/r/ExRedPill26/11/20 01:54 AM
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the fact you think people who arent incels all ignore the 'harsh realities' of the world goes to show how youve been trapped in a cult mentality thats blocked you off from any other outside ideas or people. Listen, i was in the incel mentality before, i had that same beliefs, and im telling you that its wrong, and that reality is not as harsh as you believe. and models just further prove my point that beauty can be varied. models are different in plenty of ways. there are tall models, short mode…
/r/ExRedPill26/11/20 12:18 AM
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well, going to therapy is good for getting over trauma, if youre willing to change and stop not believing in it. and you dont need surgery to look good, its just an option. there are plenty of ways to improve your looks, and not just to look stereotypically attractive, you can make your own personalized style of attractive. attractive is subjective and different in many different circles and cultures. being defeatist and saying nothing will get better wont help you. just complaining and not maki…
/r/ExRedPill25/11/20 10:01 PM
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"i dont believe in therapists" well, they exist, and they are helpful. so 'not believing' in them only hurts you. i never made the claim that racism doesn't exist, i said, and i quote "not everyone is racist" if youre being rejected a lot for being asian then perhaps youre just not in the right environment or around the right people to thrive. and just because youre experiencing rejection now doesnt mean that you will be forever. incel forums are not healthy places to vent, they will seep hate a…
/r/ExRedPill25/11/20 09:30 PM
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they could wear a wig, or get a anti-balding treatment, there are plenty that work.
/r/ExRedPill25/11/20 09:17 PM
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you can choose voice if you take vocal lessons, im pretty good at changing my voice actually. yes you can chose health, like being active and eating healthy. you can chose hairstyle, haircuts exist, you can get one for like $20, or just wear a wig. and yes personality can be formed based on how youre treated, mostly by how your parents treat you. and its not just a matter of how good you look but how good the people are that you surround yourself with. of course if youre surrounded by shallow pe…
/r/ExRedPill25/11/20 08:48 PM
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i aknowledge that people judge others based on looks, i wont deny that, im saying that its not as bad as you think. and i find it ironic that you think i live in a fairly land when you are holding the delusions of a personal hell. and you can change face shape, bones in your face dont settle until around 25 years old, there are ways to get rid of face fat, and we have facial bone surgeries now. you can control hairline too with anti-balding remedies or artificial hair/wigs. and not everyone is r…
/r/ExRedPill25/11/20 08:43 PM
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well, how about smell? or voice? those both come immediate before learning who someone is. and how someone looks can be based a lot around their personality too, such as someone's choice of clothing style, health, hygiene, hairstyle, posture, body language, and so on. personality actually effects looks a lot. so yeah, looks plays a part in attraction, but saying personality isnt as important, being how much it influences what you'll look like, is whats really obtuse.
/r/ExRedPill25/11/20 08:30 PM
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chances are poor hygiene, mental issues, overbearing parents, or other factors are most often to blame for most incels being socially stunted actually. If looks are whats really wrong then they just need to tidy up their hair, skin care, clothes, and hygiene really. easy fixes. you dont have to be a 'chad' to be socially successful. my brother had a dad bod, a nerdy clothing style, and a bunch of acne in highschool and he was very popular. hell, even during highschool when i was chubby, awkward,…
/r/ExRedPill25/11/20 08:22 PM
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youre still on here describing women like theyre a whole different species though. also fun guys vs boring guys is a false dichotomy. Guys who are plenty of fun can have no luck at all getting a girlfriend, and guys who are boring as shit can have plenty of hook ups and dates. i would know, because unlike what you assumed, i do have plenty of experiences. and i know that the good guy/bad boy is not a real thing, its just a trope, a stereotype, as i described it as. and perfectly healthy women ca…
/r/ExRedPill24/11/20 02:42 PM
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What the fuck are you talking about. Women can be just as neive or clueless about their partners as men. There wouldn't be a substantial domestic abuse issue if women could magically detect abusers like you said. The bad boy trope wouldn't be as infamous either. There's quite a few holes in your ideas. And women aren't an entirely different species. You sound like a diet mgtower
/r/ExRedPill24/11/20 03:31 AM
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i would argue that absolutely no attention is worse. we're humans, we are social creatures with inflated egos. it feels good to be validated by others, to feel like we're desired by others, even if those people who desire us arent that desirable themselves. when you have no attention, there is no validation, there is no one desiring or showing attraction to you. youre just left alone where your worst self-critics can be their loudest. at least when you get a bunch of attention, even if it is cra…
/r/ExRedPill22/11/20 11:32 PM
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well, there are still folks ive seen whove gone outside and chased women and still have no results, so clearly youre doing something different, or have as aspect about you that stands out which allows for your successes.
/r/ExRedPill22/11/20 09:29 PM
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i know. but a bunch of bad attention is better than no attention at all. you may have to filter through a lot of trash, but at least there is a chance of finding fish. for a lot of guys there isnt even fish at all, let alone trash. just empty waters...
/r/ExRedPill22/11/20 01:45 PM
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maybe in your opinion, but i know that many guys would like to get at least some matches at all, even if theyre bad ones.
/r/ExRedPill22/11/20 01:44 PM
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i see. you do have to agree thought that most men are absolutely invisable on those apps, and for women its far, far easier to get matches. granted its bound to be a ton of bad matches, that i know, but lots of creepy or bad attention is better than absolutely none.
/r/ExRedPill22/11/20 03:34 AM
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i know what you were talking about. no, they are not alt-right, anti-feminism is just a gateway to the altright, not a guareente. yes, i was implying that sexism goes both ways, which is why we need to tackle sexism in general as it effects both genders rather than playing the victim game like your little authoritarian group is.
/r/ExRedPill17/11/20 01:32 PM
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capitialism exists because it was more convienent for merchants and markets, at least at the start, and was a better alternative to long-present feudal systems. it doesnt have to do with impressing an 'other' or anything like that. transitioning from eating raw meat to using fire and cooking was not to impress sexual partners it was to just improve eating. gynocratic power structures are rediculous. there are several studies you can look into that prove a patriarchical society present today. oh,…
/r/ExRedPill17/11/20 12:09 AM
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a society where inequality plummets, except for strait cis men who are now banned from positions of power and dont have the same oppertunities as gays/asexuals/eunuchs. so no, not equal actually. sound like oppression, which i thought you were against. oh, wait, just oppression against people you dont like, so its okay then by you. thats another check off of authoritarian bingo. also, eunuchs can and have still taken advantage of positions of power and influnence. the eunuch faction that influen…
/r/ExRedPill16/11/20 11:47 PM
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so socialism. you want socialism where people dont have to compete for resources and basic necessities are taken care of collectively, and people get to work together and chose for themselves their bosses and policies? okay, cool, i down for that. could do without the misogyny and conspiracy theories though, seriously a lot of what you said is the same things i hear from MRAs MGTOWs and redpill members. you just have a vail of 'im not them' and some more left leanings. certainly more authoritari…
/r/ExRedPill16/11/20 05:16 PM
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thats a lot of words for 'nobody will fuck me'
/r/ExRedPill16/11/20 04:28 PM
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aww, thats so great. good for you two
/r/ExRedPill14/11/20 04:47 PM
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"develop disposability for women" sounds like you want the life of half the population to be devalued, rather than raising the value of the other half like you claim to be about. and not, women arent as generally privailiged as you have been led to believe. . https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/29/feminists-man-haters-sexist https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/oct/19/women-blame-everything-self-harm-girls http://thoughtsonliberty.com/male-disposability-is-not-an-argumen…
/r/ExRedPill14/11/20 01:57 PM
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women created gender rolls? mhh, history disagrees with you my guy. also yes, male privilage does exist. i doubt you have to be frightened of rape or kidnapping every time you walk alone at night. you dont have to deal with periods or fighting for abortion rights (like how it was practically removed in poland, for example). actually, several transmen have expressed how they feel new forms of privilage when they started passing as a man compared to women. there is female privilage too, i wont den…
/r/ExRedPill14/11/20 04:37 AM
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you sound like a fascist
/r/ExRedPill14/11/20 01:51 AM
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im not even him im just curious about him.
/r/seduction13/11/20 10:37 PM
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good bot
/r/ExRedPill13/11/20 02:12 PM
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i think a large issue for men's problems is mainly recognition in wider culture. women and feminism in general arent to blame for mens issues not getting as much recognition though, in fact many of the pressures men face are due to the influence of traditionalists in our society, whom are both men and women. and dispite the lack of tradcons, that subreddit does still have influences from MGTOW and conservatives. according to subredditstats.com those who use r/ProMaleCollective are very likely to…
/r/ExRedPill13/11/20 02:07 PM
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a better alternative doesnt really mean a good alternative. most of thier posts are just indentifying symptoms of their problems but when it comes to finding a cause its always 'misandry and feminism oppressing men who have it worse than women' which is exactly the same things you see on MRA or some MGTOW subs. plus, as a bit of constructive criticism, they could be better if they were to be more of a support group and actially participate in activism, letting themselves known, and sharing more …
/r/ExRedPill13/11/20 01:21 PM
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males were never the dominant sex? excuse me? did you sleep through history class? never noticed many past and present religious laws that claimed women should submit to their husbands? women not being able to vote for most of history? daughters being exchanged like property for land or alliences? male-favored birthright heritage? none of that? dispite all that men were never the dominant sex? okay. wow. sure, lets just ignore all that. history is an illusion because its men's turn to play victi…
/r/ExRedPill13/11/20 05:46 AM
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yeah its really unfortunate how subreddits that start out wanting to help men turn into places of alt-right and misogynist indoctrination
/r/ExRedPill13/11/20 03:06 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/AgainstHateSubreddits/comments/hz5tyt/rpromalecollective\_transphobia\_sexism\_racism/ theres literally a post on r/AgainstHateSubreddits that gives a few examples of the transphobia, racism, and sexism that can be present in PMC. also, according to subredditstats.com, members of PMC are frequently also users of r/MGTOW , r/MensRignts , r/Republican and r/Conservative Yes, some of the things you meantioned are things I agree with. but that doesnt change the fact that PMC…
/r/ExRedPill13/11/20 02:39 AM
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There is literally a post on r/AgainstHateSubreddits about the hateful things in r/ProMaleCollective. you arent fooling me, i know what lurks in that sub. https://www.reddit.com/r/AgainstHateSubreddits/comments/hz5tyt/rpromalecollective_transphobia_sexism_racism/
/r/ExRedPill13/11/20 12:40 AM
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1) a joke, yes. a joke with anti-feminism behind it, douple yes. people often joke about things they dispise and slightly believe. 2.) yes, women do get blamed for problems. believe it or not, society is not all pro-feminist and feminism is not out to get you. there are huge groups of people and things in pop culture that paint women as bad. the man-hating feminist trope, or arcetypes like the selfish popular girl/gold digger who manipulates men is a lot more widespread than you think, and there…
/r/ExRedPill13/11/20 12:10 AM
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you despise the manosphere and are a lefty yet you approve of a subreddit thats full of mansophere and conservative ideals? i fail to see your logic here. oh, and when have you blamed women for rediculous things? well looking at your post history, you once made a comment on r/asktrufemcels where you claim "it's sexual harassment if you look at a woman more than 3 seconds" which is ludicrous. also you made a few comments on this very post claiming that menslb is used by feminists to shape men to …
/r/ExRedPill12/11/20 11:07 PM
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dude, ive been through the whole mra, redpill, and mgtow rabbit hole as you have. i know exactly the types of things that you go on about, and the proposed 'solutions' to your problems, and the manifestos you come up with. its fine to critizise feminism as a concept. constructive critizism is a thing. but blaming 50% of the population with your AWALT mentality is strait up mental. and you dont go so far as to 'critisize' feminism as you demonize it. ive spent hours on research both before, durin…
/r/ExRedPill12/11/20 10:38 PM
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ah yes, and everyone knows that strawmaning feminism and bashing women for all their problems is a great way to solve mens issues. hey, when is that sub gonna talk about man on man rape? or maybe the lack of platonic love/intemacy in male to male friendships? poor father/son relationships? male on male emotional abuse? never seen any of that on there. just another sub that preaches "men good, women bad"
/r/ExRedPill12/11/20 09:20 PM
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yeah, that is sad. luckily communities like r/MensLib hasnt been dragged into the depths, at least not for now.
/r/ExRedPill12/11/20 02:55 PM
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well, they claim to wanna give men's issues the light of day, but alas they just strawman feminism and bash women.
/r/ExRedPill12/11/20 02:36 PM
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oh wow, r/promalecollective is so revolutionary with its numberous strawman arguements
/r/ExRedPill12/11/20 01:52 PM
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real problems that women face are exaggerated by men-hating radicals? eh, makes sense that problems men are facing are being brought up by a male counterpart who is similarly radical and hateful towards women. people like you and radfems are two sides of the same coin my guy. also ive already been on that subreddit.
/r/ExRedPill12/11/20 01:44 PM
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Women have it easier? Oh boy, then sign me up for higher chances of being raped, potential vaginal infections or brest cancer, more often being on the receiving end of blatant or violet sexism and being seen as sex objects or subhuman trash by a concerning amount of the population. Seriously, ask womens groups what problems they face, or better yet, as trans woman or trans men how different their lives are post transition. You'll find people face a lot of different problems and not many have it …
/r/ExRedPill11/11/20 09:12 PM
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well, several studys show men do cheat more than women so yes, its possible that women are having sex with some of the same males without even knowing about it. also, thats a big jump to conclusion. just because there is a 10% difference you immediently assume that there is a substancial amount of women sleeping with the same males? oh no, not 1/10th, a minority of women, how dare they. also yes, female sexlessness has risen over the past decade too, it just doesnt mention it in this article. in…
/r/ExRedPill11/11/20 08:35 PM
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Fair point. A straw men is a fairly widespread thing presented in pursuasive articles, rather intentionally or by mistake
/r/ExRedPill10/11/20 06:22 PM
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there was a lot more to the article than just that. also if you browze on this subreddit for long enough youre bound to come across challenges to your idea of hypergamy. believe it or not a lot of girls actually have low self esteem and dont think they can handle a 'top male' or their preferences for a guy are completely different from what most people perceieve as a 'top male'. i would know, ive had plenty of friends who are women.
/r/ExRedPill10/11/20 05:57 PM
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its ridiculing people because of their misogyny, not because of their loneliness. it just so happens to be that lonely guys are seceptible to being drawn into misogynitic groups such as Redpill, MTGOW, and the incel community. Im sure if there was a group of lonely men who genuinely supported each other instead of bashing women it wouldnt get any of the critisizms that these other groups recieve. hate the sin, not the sinner.
/r/ExRedPill10/11/20 05:53 PM
1

i am aware of the good things that mens rights activisits advocate for, and i support them and have nothing against them. For this article in particular, its about the MRA's who also overlap with the RP and other MRA's who may hold misogynistic/antifeminist ideas. Go to r/againstmensrights for more examples of this type of MRA's that im reffering to.
/r/ExRedPill10/11/20 01:47 PM
2

I completely agree
/r/ExRedPill10/11/20 01:42 PM
1

there is significant overlap with redpillers and mras from what i noticed
/r/ExRedPill10/11/20 01:03 PM
9

its been rising for women too. just at a slightly less substancial rate. newer generations in general are having less sex compared to older ones. sexlessness for men has rose by about 30% while for women its about 19% https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/12/the-sex-recession/573949/#:~:text=Gen%20Xers%20and%20Baby%20Boomers,a%20year%20to%2054%20times.
/r/ExRedPill10/11/20 03:57 AM
5

those are really good but i do want to add that no fap doesnt really work for everybody. while i was on nofap i actually started to loose focus on other things and i was for the most part miserable and isolationist. now i only touch myself 1-2 times a week. and nowadays ive been eating much better, working out more, opening up more, and feeling better about myself. nofap is more of a placebo effect if anything. if you try it and it doesnt work for you theres no shame in not doing it. however i d…
/r/ExRedPill10/11/20 01:46 AM
3

good for you man!
/r/ExRedPill09/11/20 10:47 PM
1

i would say that hes gotten a bit better now. but if hes not for your tastes then the other two guy are still there for you to check out
/r/ExRedPill09/11/20 10:44 PM
1

if you have the time, i suggest that you check out Mark Manson, Dan Bacon, and The Josh Speaks over on youtube. all three of those channels have advise on dating which seem to be very helpful. in the comment sections of those videos, several times have i seen guys thank the youtuber for their advice after finally getting a girlfriend.
/r/ExRedPill09/11/20 10:33 PM
5

you just might not be taking the right oppertunities or making the right circumstances. lets take my brother as an example of an average guy. he's got a dad bod and is a little below 6ft. acne over his face, spends most of his time at his job at a warehouse or playing video games. guess what? hes had several girlfriends and hes been with his current girlfriend for about two years now, and from what i can tell their relationship is going good. howd he achieve this though? well, he met all of this…
/r/ExRedPill09/11/20 10:26 PM
5

well, college is a strange time for a lot of people. those average men could be participating in online colleges, like i am, or perhaps they could be very busy between classes and working a job to pay off student loans or an internship to get job experience. and even if there are more chances for people to meet others, doesnt mean everyone is gonna take it. plenty of men may just be socially anxious, or content with their current social life, or waiting to have sex for other reasons, etc. there …
/r/ExRedPill09/11/20 10:04 PM
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once again capitalism is the root of one of humanity's many problems.
/r/ExRedPill09/11/20 08:49 PM
1

No Problem.
/r/ExRedPill09/11/20 08:46 PM
3

oh yeah, look at you, complaining and bashing people online, what a wonderful example of a manly man with manly mental stability. also, when i say a gay version of redpill, i meant both between male and female homosexuals.
/r/ExRedPill09/11/20 05:56 PM
3

so you admit that redpill is 'false, absurd, and harmful'. good to know. if you want an alternative to the redpill, you could take the advice about improving yourself and putting yourself out there more, and leave all of the pseudo science and hatred behind. hell, having a great life and becoming the best version of yourself isnt just dating advise, thats just general life advise, which Redpill has taken and claimed they came up with it. plus, ive seen you talking a lot about male sexlessness ri…
/r/ExRedPill09/11/20 05:49 PM
3

i guess my sister, my brother's girlfriend, and countless of my friends who are women, and plenty of other people's wifes/girlfriends i know dont actually exist, cause theyve all dated men who weren't 'top 20%' and had good relationships with them. oh well, like that matters to you, youre probably just gonna make some excuse to invalidate my experiences in order to defend your worldview. whatever allows you to vent your frustraitions i suppose
/r/ExRedPill09/11/20 05:30 PM
1

Ireland, iceland, new Zealand, switzerland, japan, and canada to name a few
/r/ExRedPill09/11/20 01:05 AM
1

i know that i want to be fit, i want to have a good social circle of trusted friends, and i would like to travel to a few countries, and maybe even move out of the USA all together.
/r/ExRedPill08/11/20 10:07 PM
3

found the incel
/r/seduction06/11/20 01:55 PM
0

dating is a real struggle for a lot of men and male celibacy rates are on the rise.
/r/ExRedPill06/11/20 01:01 AM
1

im not sure where to go from here
/r/ExRedPill06/11/20 12:52 AM
0

fine. i guess i am. I have a problem. that being that ive never been successful with dating. i havent even had my first kiss, let alone a crush. no one has been attracted to me. I dont know what to do to solve my situation.
/r/ExRedPill05/11/20 11:55 PM
1

well i have both
/r/ExRedPill05/11/20 11:53 PM
1

i have "accept things about yourself, you let go of things you'll never be" ive never been successful with romantic or social relationships even with my best efforts. i suppose i just have to accept i will never be attractive or interesting enough for them. youre advocating for letting go of things i'll never be, right?
/r/ExRedPill05/11/20 09:38 PM
1

its gonna be hard to accept that i can never get laid but oh well, time to blackpill myself.
/r/ExRedPill05/11/20 09:32 PM
3

youre right. even someone who is a 10/10 in looks can still be distraught enternally. plenty of celebrities have came out with stress and addictions for example. ive never had it put to me in the way that you have. and i havent really discovered an invironment i can thrive in other than when i do things by myself. nearly all my current hobbies and goals are things that include me and me alone. im trying to be patient, yes, but it doesnt help that i have mental and developmental issues chipping a…
/r/ExRedPill05/11/20 09:19 PM
1

I'm choosing to do things about it. I'm working out, I'm eating healthy, I'm seeing a therapist, I'm getting out of the house regularly, I'm trying to get out of my comfort zone with every opportunity and have been for a while. Hasn't changed how I feel or my success in dating. I'm doing all I can against my sickness and results are minimal. I'm physically healthy at least.
/r/ExRedPill05/11/20 08:42 PM
1

Rape and physical assault is horrid. I agree. Abuse is horrid. You had a roller coaster of a love life, and here i am not even able to get on the ride. I'd take trama over depression and isolation any day. Either way you get emotional agony. In your situation you at least had some good between the bad. If I have a sickness, tell me the cure
/r/ExRedPill05/11/20 08:29 PM
1

Well there you go. You had success because of your outgoing and very real character. you had to have something in order to get that success. Some of us aren't so lucky. Some of us are introverts or have social drawbackslike asperger's. You'd be in my same situation if you had my same problems, completely out of my control
/r/ExRedPill05/11/20 08:08 PM
1

I find all that hard to believe. Unless you're very attractive one way or another.
/r/ExRedPill05/11/20 07:27 PM
1

You made the claim that we all face the same human experience and we all struggle despite our personal experience. You're retreating from it now that I ask for your dating success. Tell me your success so you can validate that you actually know what youre talking about when it comes to dating. Unless you've just been making things up
/r/ExRedPill05/11/20 07:08 PM
1

Tell me your success with dating
/r/ExRedPill05/11/20 06:23 PM
2

I haven't considered those things.
/r/ExRedPill05/11/20 06:06 PM
1

And those who can't succeed at this right of passage for not having good enough genes, luck, and experiences are destined to become incels I suppose.
/r/ExRedPill05/11/20 04:52 PM
1

I understand. I would like to see evidence to support your claim that "a vast majority of people live entire lives without ever requiring anything to find safe companionship". Personally from what I've seen, several people, even those outside the rp, struggle with dating, including myself. There is a cause to this struggle.
/r/ExRedPill05/11/20 04:18 PM
2

i see what you mean. i assume there is a reason for you advocating that idea. Given that your claim is truth, then tell me how we can use it to better our collective human experience. Then again, you may just be making this statement for the sake of itself.
/r/ExRedPill05/11/20 03:00 PM
1

the human condition is a communal and social existance, yes, but people experience it in vastly different ways, and its that differeing experience, along with our natural sense of selfishness, that the individuality you describe derives from. someone born to/growing up with incredibly rich parents will have very different experiences and turn out a lot differently than someone born/growing up in poverty. people will experience dating vastly different too. a social outcast or someone whose conven…
/r/ExRedPill05/11/20 02:41 PM
1

true. But where there are scams, it usually means there is an underlying problem that is widely overlooked. plenty of people dont know where to go to get proper dating advise and practice, and learning from trial and error is really embarassing, so they prefer to go for a service they think can help them, since they dont really have any better professionals to help them with dating. old folk turn to uneccessary insurance because they arent self-relient anymore, and their health is rapidly deteri…
/r/ExRedPill05/11/20 01:56 PM
2

that sounds like how rpers describe nearly all women
/r/ExRedPill05/11/20 01:47 PM
3

i see what you mean. judging your own self worth however can be difficult, as its a matter of pride and esteem, which that in itself is a whole other beast to tackle
/r/ExRedPill05/11/20 01:47 PM
2

its a profitable buisness, plenty of people struggle to get dates.
/r/ExRedPill05/11/20 01:45 PM
2

oh i see. well, come to think of it, my parents both got married when they were fairly young too, just out of highschool, and back then were both very poor, and even to this day their relationship is still incredible. My brother works at a warehouse and has a dad bod, he's been with his girlfriend for several years, and my sister absolutely adores her boyfriend even though he's short, skinny, and jobless. people are very diverse, i am aware. I just wanted to see what people thought of this artic…
/r/ExRedPill05/11/20 01:45 PM
2

i assume you didnt read the article
/r/ExRedPill05/11/20 01:38 PM
1

i forgot that. i went ahead and deleted that old post now that ive already made this one. and i dont really know how to properly approach relationships as i never had one before, i was always too busy with my own goals. plus, i am an introvert, and have been fine being alone for most my life, but it starts to eat away at you at some point.
/r/ExRedPill05/11/20 03:53 AM
1

ive been leaving the house a lot more often now, just for the sake of leaving it even. if women haveing high or unrealistic standards is such a bullshit concept, then why are guys complaining about it? hell, theres even been a women dating coach who quit because of womens too unrealistic standards. https://www.neogaf.com/threads/female-dating-coach-says-that-womens-standards-are-too-high.1549743/ no one should be forced to lower their standards, but i do think generally as a culture we need to t…
/r/ExRedPill05/11/20 03:48 AM
1

i dont recall you saying anything about who sets standards and who lives up to them, the concept of who deserves which person to be with, and the lack of healthy sources for rp men to vent and confront their woes.
/r/ExRedPill04/11/20 08:20 PM
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i suppose i would respect the 56 year old a bit more. its difficult for men to take the same stance that he does though. plenty of people would rather settle for finding bronze in their backyard rather than searching the whole world for gold. And many men arent in the situation where they can be content without a significant other because of external and internal pressures. external being that men are far more pressured than women to 'get' a partner, because in our culture a man's ability to att…
/r/ExRedPill04/11/20 08:15 PM
1

i am aware of that. You did not tackle any of the points I made in my responce, however.
/r/ExRedPill04/11/20 07:59 PM
1

men have standards too, yes, but for many men its them who has to meet the standards set by someone else, rather than the other way around. i suppose who sets the standards depends on the situation. usually the one who sets the standards is the one who has many options to date with, and the one who has to live up to those standards is but one of those options who wants to date the one setting the standards. and most often, its women who chose, and men who get chosen. this is what leads average w…
/r/ExRedPill04/11/20 06:26 PM
1

typically, yes, guys are less picky. I suppose it can be seen as a good thing from a certain perspective. It does mean that women on average have an easier time, at least compared to guys, reaching the standards of someone who she could date. and i stated that women arent obliged to pick 'loser' men. if they have no reason to, then they dont have to. but once again this all comes into perspective. a women might pick someone who a different person may perceieve as a loser. but that 'loser' has so…
/r/ExRedPill04/11/20 05:46 PM
1

agreed.
/r/ExRedPill04/11/20 05:36 PM
1

fair points
/r/ExRedPill04/11/20 04:01 PM
3

You have a fair point.
/r/ExRedPill04/11/20 02:31 PM
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that is true in a lot of instances, but im pretty sure a lot of rpers and former rpers like me were average guys who just wanted average relationships, but never got one/had a lot of problems with the ones they did get. plus, the rpers are quick to point out that its hypocritical to ridicule their high standards while women having ridiculously high standards is more socially acceptable. plus, average women do have a lot more options then average men do. they might not be a lot of good options bu…
/r/ExRedPill04/11/20 02:18 PM
-1

some people would rather be with someone than without. or perhaps that loser has something that compensates for their 'loser' status in that person's standards, like maybe a bunch of money (betabuxx), or some other benefit that could be exploited from the 'loser'
/r/ExRedPill04/11/20 02:10 PM
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i suppose the 'finish line' is a fluid concept. but in general it means that you excell at something, that being that youre incredibly social, or strong, or wise, so on and so forth. someone can have a particular niche to reach the finish line in, but have to reach that finish line in order to be considered attractive. thats just my assumption however, so take it with a grain of salt.
/r/ExRedPill04/11/20 02:07 PM
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plenty of men are willing to pick a loser woman. i know from experience. that doesnt mean that women are obliged to pick loser men, no, but by you even saying that supports the idea of hypergamy. it also supports the idea that men need to accomplish a lot more than women do to be considered attractive/dateable, which you, zoemondo, disagreed with before.
/r/ExRedPill04/11/20 02:04 PM
2

Average men will get thrown under the bus for man more attractive. All my friends had divorced parents. Average men get completely left out on dating apps. If men really weren't valued less as you claim there would be a lot less incels or mgtowers.
/r/ExRedPill30/10/20 08:00 PM
1

im quite aware of the concequences of capitalism and the concentration of wealth, and i agree that its a shame. a part of me wants capitalism and neo-liberalism to be abolished all together. and im aware that its important to ork on yourself and develop. but sometimes no matter how much you work on yourself, either because of outside factors or because youre never in the right place at the right time, you can remain lonely. and the epidemic of loneliness amoung young men existed way before covid…
/r/ExRedPill30/10/20 12:22 PM
2

Average men still have it hard though. and its far easier for them to be overlooked. there is a reason why there is such an epidemic of loneliness amoung so many young men now adays. and 1/3 men dont get laid during a year.
/r/ExRedPill30/10/20 01:32 AM
2

given online dating though, and women can simply swipe right on any attractive man and order hookups on the go, for average men in particular dating has become a very difficult endevor
/r/ExRedPill29/10/20 11:46 PM
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i know. still not socialist though, at least not in any meaningful wayhttps://www.britannica.com/story/were-the-nazis-socialistshere's a britannica article about it https://www.wrath-bearingtree.com/2018/10/no-nazis-were-not-leftists-or-how-to-debunk-right-wing-propaganda/ here's another article about how they arent leftist (which Socalism is a leftist ideology)
/r/ExRedPill28/10/20 02:46 AM
4

the nazis werent even socialist though, only by name, not by policies
/r/ExRedPill28/10/20 01:27 AM
1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0Ioigv44DQ here is a re-upload on another channel. the orginal channel that made it is called Jreg
/r/ExRedPill25/10/20 07:53 PM
2

Oh cool! Glad to hear that from you dude
/r/ExRedPill25/10/20 03:47 PM
3

its good to look at multiple perspectives about topics as to not get trapped in extreme biases. i too am going alone for my life, but thats mainly due to circumstances and the need to better myself. when i become heathier and my life is more put together, then perhaps i'll seek a relationship. luckily im bi so it could be with either a man or woman
/r/ExRedPill25/10/20 02:22 AM
1

check the detoxing firstaid kit and some of the posts on here debunking redpill to challenge your ideas yourself. if you still decide to be a part of the repill dispite its contradictions and inaccuracies, then thats your decision to make, not mine. plus, im not gonna waste my time arguing online with you.
/r/ExRedPill23/10/20 06:53 PM
1

you'll find that the Redpill is pretty ludicrous
/r/ExRedPill23/10/20 06:02 PM
3

Honestly i really appreciate complements and people showing intrest in me. plus, im fairly easy to flatter
/r/seduction23/10/20 03:15 AM
2

well said
/r/ExRedPill23/10/20 01:44 AM
4

I would feel flattered honestly.
/r/seduction23/10/20 12:31 AM
8

yeah, i know, i saw the whole thing. they are hyprocritical as hell.
/r/ExRedPill22/10/20 10:15 PM
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yikes. yeah, about that. is this guy discribing redpillers instead of women? because it seems to me that Redpillers are the ones to act like they're being attacked when you argue against their veiws, and they get super emotional about it and usually throw insults at you or outright refuse to acknowledge anything you say. for Redpillers, if anyone says something about human nature or dating, that isnt a fellow redpiller, is attacking their beliefs, and therefore is an enemy. thats the 'youre eith…
/r/ExRedPill22/10/20 09:27 PM
1

good bot
/r/ExRedPill22/10/20 12:34 PM
3

i see. wow. i hope that you manage to fully detox from that shit soon, and get back on track to a better life. and yeah, honestly im not surprised that they insulted you. anyone to them who diagrees with what they say is a 'gay beta male simp cuck' and to them, the more you hate women and treat them like shit, the more 'alpha' you are. its a cult dude. glad you got out of it
/r/ExRedPill21/10/20 09:11 PM
3

haha yeah, sure is!
/r/ExRedPill21/10/20 12:22 PM
1

i see, greatly appreciate it
/r/seduction21/10/20 03:09 AM
3

yeah, for sure
/r/ExRedPill21/10/20 03:08 AM
1

oh im secure with my height so that wont be necessary
/r/seduction21/10/20 03:07 AM
1

i see, thanks
/r/seduction21/10/20 03:07 AM
2

im glad that it did
/r/ExRedPill21/10/20 03:07 AM
2

im already starting to go to the gym and started on skincare and i plan to look into better clothing styles. i havent seen much results though yet. i assume you know what workout routines, skincare routines, and diets are effective?
/r/seduction21/10/20 02:19 AM
2

any advice on how to go about that?
/r/seduction21/10/20 01:21 AM
1

i see. thanks
/r/seduction21/10/20 01:14 AM
2

yeah fair point
/r/ExRedPill21/10/20 01:14 AM
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So your success in dating all boils down to looks basically
/r/seduction21/10/20 12:09 AM
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it doesnt, its just a meathod of venting because i dont have an other outlet to vent my frustraitions.
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 09:22 PM
1

I've socialized and treated people well plenty times before. Hasn't worked
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 08:56 PM
0

You're either lieing or downplaying your looks. Oh wait, you're a woman, you can still get positive attention regardless. Not men. If you were a guy in my same situation you'd agree with everything I've been saying
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 08:42 PM
2

I see. Thanks
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 07:15 PM
3

Thanks, I never considered those things. I appreciate it
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 06:54 PM
0

youre only fed up because you cant admit that youre wrong
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 06:45 PM
0

If I had good genes then I would have already had success with relationships
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 05:53 PM
0

Can't change my genes
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 05:32 PM
1

Yes it will. It's indisputable that people who look better will be treated better and more successful socially and sexually
/r/seduction20/10/20 05:25 PM
1

appearently other people are blameless for why i dont have success in dating, and my looks have nothing to do with how people are attracted to me or perceive me.
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 04:28 PM
0

Fine
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 04:16 PM
0

Starting as friends doesn't work. You're telling me to willingly get friendzoned, which would be a waste of my time
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 04:04 PM
1

I have asperger's and I'm an introvert that's not been very socially successful. I have a very literal and logical mind that is difficult to implement in the unpredictable and irrational emotions involved in social situations
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 03:57 PM
1

Only certain ones but most likely not
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 03:46 PM
-1

I'm saying that in terms of attracting average guys thats all women have to do. If they want to get with a really hot or famous guy of course they have to do more. But in order for an average guy to attract an average girl, he has to put in more work than an average girl does to attract average guys
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 03:38 PM
1

Just walking up to any rando and starting up a conversation is a great way to seem like a weirdo stranger
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 03:34 PM
1

Tell me where to start
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 03:17 PM
1

Then give me the solution
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 02:55 PM
0

oh please, girls will say that those are their standards, and then completely turn around to be with some douchebage with no life just because he's really hot and a 'bad boy'. at least guys are more accepting of other people's flaws and are strait forward about what they want/dont want/dont mind. plus, often times women are the ones who chose who can and cant date them, so they have the luxury of having standards. most guys just have to accept who will chose them because women who would live up …
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 02:27 PM
2

and those dudes are loney and horny because...? maybe because they dont live up to those girl's standards? if girls didnt have high standards, then those guys would likely not be so lonely and horny.
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 01:40 PM
1

mhh, i havent considered having a niche like that. i suppose my problem is that i dont really know which niche would be fitting to me
/r/seduction20/10/20 01:30 PM
1

yes i suppose i would all put those characteristics in 'interesting' but luckily those are things you can develop and improve on, which is what im trying to do. i dont like shallow people either, but unfortunately from what ive whitnessed so far, the dating market is getting increasingly more shallow and superficial. and yes, i do have plenty of questions about how the world works. im only 18, theres still plenty of things i have to figure out and many things about my life that i havent decided.…
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 01:05 PM
1

no you cannot. i would like to be loved by someone, yes, but all love is conditional, and a lot of those conditions to recieve love have certain similarities, i.e., being exceptionally attractive and/or interesting
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 12:41 PM
3

i suppose men are more desparate for sex due to guy culture, your value and status as a man can often be weighed by how easily you can get laid
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 12:07 PM
1

have you ever considered that incels are also a thing because they dont live up to women's standards because of things outside their control?
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 12:05 PM
-1

yeah but women just have to plaster on artifical things like nice clothes or makup. if youre a man and you want to be attractive, it has to be religiously integrated into your lifestyle to be muslcular, healthy, interesting, etc.
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 12:05 PM
1

a lot of people seem to have similar standards, so i suppose the former
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 12:02 PM
1

i struggle with pullups because my ribcage often stabs into my belly a bit. i'll look into boyweight exercises and planking
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 04:11 AM
1

cool. tell me the types of lifing are good for building muscle. also let me know good routines i can utilize
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 04:02 AM
1

that doesnt answer my question. i was asking how to improve my looks. youre just being redundant about being direct
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 03:56 AM
1

if just showing up, treating people well, and expressing real intrest, and 'being yourself' all actually worked, there wouldnt be all these incels and mgtow folks over the internet. it may have worked for you but it hasnt worked for hundreds of men
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 03:54 AM
1

i see, thanks. how can i improve my looks by the way? anything in particular that goes good for you?
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 03:50 AM
1

yes
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 03:38 AM
1

bcause you can 'be yourself' and attract women. plenty of guys cant do that by just 'being themself' because yourself sometimes isnt good enough.
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 03:36 AM
0

mhhh, its almost like when i gather a lot of imformation, the conculsion i come to is based off of all the iformation ive gathered. so coming to a conculsuion at all is selective hearing to you simply because you dont agree? also, im pretty sure you were just very lucky to be at the right place and the right time to get with your wife if your looks arent as good as you claim or if you didnt have some sort of tactic behind it. i doubt you could relate with what the rest of us guys have to go thro…
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 03:34 AM
1

well, lucky you
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 03:28 AM
1

ah, i see. do you have any advice on how to attract good women? and just for the sake of it, if i change my mind and start caring more about quantity than quality, can you teach your tactic anyway?
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 03:24 AM
1

ive heared all sorts of things from plenty of sides on the internet. i have a diverse range of sources and experiences, so no, its not selective hearing you did say that you were a 6 or 7 in looks, yes? well, there you go, you were above average already. but if youre a 5 or 4 it takes a whole lot more work to even get a lick of sexual attention. plus, im sure that you had some secret or figure something out to get with your wife Dating can be for more than sex, yes, but it seems to me that the c…
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 03:20 AM
2

not gonna teach me what tactic? and for what reason would you not?
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 03:16 AM
2

well, i prefer quality over quantity, but currently i dont have any quantity yet so whatever you can teach me would be appreciated
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 03:03 AM
2

i see, thanks. how many pounds do you suggest is good for building muscle when it comes to weight training? should i start with 10, work to 20, then 30, etc?
/r/seduction20/10/20 02:55 AM
2

thanks. question: what should i do if im like, skinny fat though? like i have skinny arms and legs, and i look skinny in clothes, but i still have a bit of a belly and moobs
/r/seduction20/10/20 02:49 AM
1

i see. hey, if you are experienced in dating, could you perhaps give me some advice, or simply tell me what worked for you to attract others?
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 02:44 AM
1

i see. well i dont have much experience in dating, just based on what ive seen guys seem to be easier.
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 02:36 AM
1

i agree with focusing in yourself and improving. i agree with controling what you can and what you can. i agree with becoming physically and mentally strong. but all the shit about the pseudosociology and psychology is where i draw the line. plus, i think the redpill is something that people regress to when they arent very experienced with dating or had a lot of bad dating experiences, and they want a snakeoil 'solution' to their problems, which in reality will often make their situation worse. …
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 02:16 AM
1

i think dating is pretty skewed between men and women. for strait dating women hold a very unfair advantage. luckily im bi and can just date males too, which seem to be much less maintenence than women
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 02:09 AM
1

everyone's idea of a 'nice guy' is different, nice can be a very flexable term. if anything it just describes something that we find to be pleasing in some way. if a women goes after a douche bag, then its because there was something 'nice' about them that overshadowed their trashy personality, or perhaps it was certain aspects of their personality itself, like confidence or whatever, that the women found to be nice. and please, you dont know every single women, nor can you claim that they're 'p…
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 01:59 AM
2

says its not about hating women, goes onto dehumanize them by generalizing that they're all walking contradictions and cant be taken seriously. nice try dude, none of us are returning to your cult. please for your own sake check out the redpill detoxing kit pinned on this subreddit.
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 01:03 AM
2

I can accept other people's flaws. I have decent standards. Many other people, particularly women, have higher standards than that. If you want to attract partners, you have to meet those standards.
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 12:57 AM
2

i havent gotten my haircut in a while just because i wanted to see how long i could grow out my hair, out of curiousity. for facial, every morning i use anti-ance cream, followed by toner, then moisterizer. i dont have any cologne yet
/r/seduction20/10/20 12:38 AM
1

in order to spend time with someone you like they also have to like you back, which is the hard part. but no, i cant really think of anyone i like at the moment.
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 12:37 AM
1

you mean like a pitcure?
/r/seduction20/10/20 12:30 AM
2

i already got a gym membership but i need to form better workout routines. what grooming advice you you have?
/r/seduction20/10/20 12:30 AM
5

i'll respect your opnion. i want to hear more from people (besides you) about this topic.
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 12:14 AM
1

good
/r/ExRedPill19/10/20 04:36 PM
2

i suppose so, yes. i certainly do get it from family. but then again there are plenty of men who dont get a healthy amount of love from their families. and male friendships typically dont have as much or any platonic love/affection when compared to women.
/r/ExRedPill19/10/20 02:58 PM
1

i can agree with that. but rather you hold sex to being so important or not, it doesnt change that average and below average men will struggle to find love and belonging, at least moreso compared to women
/r/ExRedPill19/10/20 12:59 PM
1

high value men would be men with high social status, wealth, looks, character, etc. and i do see what you mean by those being contradictions, but i think Redpill glosses over that by using its 'women dont know what they want' claim.
/r/ExRedPill19/10/20 12:49 PM
1

well, you must be really attractive and interesting then if you get all that attenion, so luckly you. secondly, im not trying to make men seem weak, im trying to show that average men have a lot of struggles when it comes to dating. and to be honest im really at a point that i could take or leave sex, so im not thirsty or anything. if i really was i would have already just paid off a sex worker or something like that.
/r/ExRedPill19/10/20 12:46 PM
2

listen, im aware that sex isnt as important as water, tht was just the best analogy i could come up with really. and to be honest, im kinda at the point where i could take or leave sex and relationships. however, im pretty sure that love and belonging is very important. we're a social species after all. without a heathy amount of affection and support from others, people can go mad. just look at how crazy and hateful incels can be, for instance.
/r/ExRedPill19/10/20 12:44 PM
1

yeah, but no man wants to admit jealousy over their low n-count. that would probably lead to them being the laughing stock of their social group and further destroying their already lacking esteem
/r/ExRedPill19/10/20 05:00 AM
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ah-ha. you got a lot of attention, you just didnt accept the advances. if you were a man, i assure you, you would have gotten little to no of that attention from women. thats the difference between average men and women right there. the only thing that stopped you was yourself. men have a lot more things to deal with to get attention like that
/r/ExRedPill19/10/20 04:20 AM
1

men sure as hell wont care if a women is insecure in bed. also, i see what you mean with the whole jealousy thing, but in accountablity i generally mean taking responcibility for your actions, and i gave the cock carolsel backfiring as an example of something redpillers claim a women would not take accountability for
/r/ExRedPill19/10/20 04:08 AM
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yes, it is very unfair that more attractive people get laid more often. but whats more unfair is that, even if a man and women's looks are both average and pretty much the same, the women can and will get laid a lot more than the man, i can guarentee. even unattractive women can get laid with plenty of guys that are desparate enough, but often choose not too, because heaven forbid a women go out with someone below average.
/r/ExRedPill19/10/20 03:58 AM
1

how many times have you been rejected? im sure most average guys have been regected 10 times more.
/r/ExRedPill19/10/20 03:44 AM
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well, all that women needs to do is just talk to the guy and im sure that she can hook up with him, doing so is easy for most women. for men, not so much, you have to develop yourself a lot as a person and have noticable value and stand out if you wanna have any chance of getting laid. women on the other hand can be as interesting as a brick wall but there will still be plenty of men willing to fuck her
/r/ExRedPill19/10/20 03:40 AM
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yeah, but given how difficult it is for men on average to get laid, men who are on the 'pussy caroulsel' are admired, as thats a ride plenty of guys would like to go on too. however many cannot. however, by comparison its easier for women to ride the 'cock caroulsel', which men assume that makes her a worthless whore, or are envious of how easy it seemed for her to get all that sex. and please, average girls are not in doubt if they are good enough to get laid. gieven the amount of validation wo…
/r/ExRedPill19/10/20 03:28 AM
1

well, women can share men of course. very attractive men can lay several women a week, even each day if they have the time. sometimes a really hot or interesting guy can see several women at once. and sometimes for average women its not like they get a new guy to hook up with every time, they could just frequent a handful of specific guys. of course, these are just hypotheses, but clearly there is SOME reason why there are so many bitter men
/r/ExRedPill19/10/20 03:14 AM
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well, i guess what theyre saying is that riding the cock carousel will make that girl a whore/slut, and high value men wont want to be in a relationship with her for that reason, so she's just stuck with simps or douchebags. plus, its a bit unfair that an average women can sleep around with ease, while average men struggle to get laid even once a year, let alone once in their lifetimes.
/r/ExRedPill19/10/20 03:06 AM
1

mhh, i see. and yeah, damn right societal biases are weird
/r/ExRedPill19/10/20 02:43 AM
1

i never claimed you did. and i am aware of that. but for a lot of people who cant get sex easily or at all, sex will be a lot more important to them. water will be more important to a person living in the desert than one living by a lake. and most average men are in the desert situation, most average women are by the lake.
/r/ExRedPill19/10/20 02:34 AM
1

well yeah, but you have the cabability of being more picky because its easier. im sure if it were easier for guys they'd be more picky too.
/r/ExRedPill19/10/20 02:29 AM
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it does seem to me that women do get laid much easier, and more requently, then average men do though. its probably nothing like the exaggerations of the redpill, but its still a thing
/r/ExRedPill19/10/20 02:22 AM
2

fair point
/r/ExRedPill19/10/20 02:14 AM
2

yep
/r/ExRedPill19/10/20 02:12 AM
2

how so?
/r/ExRedPill19/10/20 01:58 AM
1

how do you get matches? do they even go anywhere?
/r/ExRedPill18/10/20 08:24 PM
10

damn, thats harsh. being attracted to and liking men doesnt derive from mental illness or any bullshit like that
/r/ExRedPill16/10/20 02:53 AM
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Oh yeah, im a bisexual male. due to how evil and manipulative the redpill painted women, i almost considered several times going full gay just to avoid them. but luckily i was able to get out of my redpill indoctrination, thanks in part by to this subreddit
/r/ExRedPill16/10/20 02:40 AM
1

you didnt refute the whole haircut thing. also, like i said, my beard is just my personal preference, not a sign of insecurity.
/r/ExRedPill15/10/20 02:25 PM
1

well, its just a personal preference that i like myself better with the beard than without. and you could argue that make-up and a cool haircut or stuff like that is also 'catfishing' in a way but youre completely fine with that it seems.
/r/ExRedPill15/10/20 01:32 PM
1

okay, well i actually look better with a beard than without so id rather keep that, of course i'll have to make sure my beard is well-kept. Looking at the other things on your list the only things i really dont have yet are stylish clothes, a decent haircut, and decent footwear. i'll certainly look into some fashion advice, thanks.
/r/ExRedPill15/10/20 01:12 PM
2

i see, i'll certainly look into all that
/r/ExRedPill15/10/20 03:05 AM
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oh yeah, i know what you mean, back when i was deep in the redpill, and searching through comment sections of redpill videos, i had seen once or twice how they love to compare women to cats and men to dogs, stuff like "men are like dogs because they are more loyal and love unconditionally" and "women are like cats because they are tricky and their love has to be earned" kind of ordeal
/r/ExRedPill15/10/20 02:05 AM
3

i'll certainly look into all that
/r/ExRedPill15/10/20 12:36 AM
2

okay, thanks, i appreciate it
/r/ExRedPill14/10/20 11:20 PM
4

well, im pretty sure i have decent personal hygiene already, even a bit of a skincare routine
/r/ExRedPill14/10/20 11:18 PM
10

any instructions on how a guy could become an "ornamented man" ?
/r/ExRedPill14/10/20 07:41 PM
8

i'd rather say no to metaphorical drugs.
/r/ExRedPill14/10/20 12:47 PM
1

i like his advice on living a more positive lifestyle and working out, but his dating advice does start to borderline redpill somewhat, and i think its important to take his tips with a grain of salt
/r/ExRedPill13/10/20 04:58 PM
1

how do you suggest that someone develops social skills and overcomes the fear of what may have to be done inorder to develop said skills?
/r/ExRedPill13/10/20 12:05 AM
1

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/health/health-problems-lack-of-sex-1439061 here is an article about the biological concequences of not having a healthy amount of sex.
/r/ExRedPill12/10/20 06:00 PM
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i suppose the biological punishment for not engaging in sexual behaviour is the dread of loneliness and pent-up aggression. i mean, guys do often feel horrible for not being sexually successful, so obviously there is some sort of punishment involved
/r/ExRedPill12/10/20 05:35 PM
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No, its biology, biology is hard to 'stop' without the use of drugs. and yes im sure its true, from so many experiences i can deduce that men tend to care more about sex then women do in general, not only due to biology but also probably because to most guys sex is sparce, while for the average women sex can be optained easily so it of course doesnt matter to them as much. and i never made any claims about positive or zero sum games or anything like that.
/r/ExRedPill12/10/20 05:01 PM
1

yeah, i read it. im certainly sorry to hear that girl had to deal with that, but at the same time i too see why that man overreacted. loneliness can be damning, desparation leads people jumping to conculsions, etc. i dont like how the father said that you shouldnt help lonely men though, without help those lonely men will likely get even more lonely
/r/ExRedPill12/10/20 04:52 PM
1

im not saying that the idea of "men have to work on themselves to get things and women have things done for them" is true, im saying that a lot of men who are sesceptible to the redpill may percieve things that way. Men who havent quite learned to adult or take care of themselves, and/or are unaware of or denying their own problems, are likely to perceive it as unfair how by comparison women get more things such as sex and attention then they do. they use redpill or blackpill as the 'easy way ou…
/r/ExRedPill12/10/20 04:03 PM
1

exactly. however, with your point of men having to work on themselves is one of the main points of frustration when it comes to the redpill. a lot of redpill ideas come from the idea that "men have to work on themselves to get better and get what they want, while women have things done for them". basically, the redpill is a snakeoil 'solution' to how unfair men percieve things to be between themselves and women. but lets be honest, that does hold some truth, that in our western societies, women …
/r/ExRedPill12/10/20 03:16 PM
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fair point. I think men blame women instead of themselves because they dont want to bring any more harm to their already weak self-esteem, and their egos are weak mainly due to them not getting as much sex, validation, and intemacy they would like/need. Not getting what they want from women causes them to blame women, blaming and hating women drives women away making it so they cant what they want from them, causing even more hate. its a brutal cycle of course, women arent completely innocent th…
/r/ExRedPill12/10/20 03:02 PM
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I think it comes down to three main factors, as to why guys arent as okay with being single Guy culture, biology, and a general lack of validation and intemacy in guy culture, for straight men in particular, there is a lot of pressure to lose your virginity/ get a girlfriend. guys who can sleep with a bunch of girls are praised while guys who are kissless virgins are looked down upon and ridiculed. for guys, your ability to get laid is like a right of passage in a way, it betters your social sta…
/r/ExRedPill12/10/20 02:11 PM
1

Thanks for the words of encouragement.
/r/ExRedPill12/10/20 12:43 PM
2

thanks, i appreciate it
/r/ExRedPill11/10/20 05:15 PM
1

thanks, i appreciate what you could do
/r/ExRedPill11/10/20 03:14 AM
1

thanks, i'll see if there is one. i really want to improve and become better, look better, and be able to maybe get a relationship for once. i appreciate what help you could give me
/r/ExRedPill11/10/20 02:27 AM
1

i see. are there any improv classes you would like to recommend?
/r/ExRedPill11/10/20 02:05 AM
1

okay, thank you. how do i develop an improv mindset? and how do i overcome my fear of uncertainty?
/r/ExRedPill11/10/20 01:49 AM
1

okay i have problems. what can i do to fix them then? because everything ive been doing now hasnt been fucking working. how do i get the 'better tools' that are needed? if redpill is false, then what mindset leads to success?
/r/ExRedPill11/10/20 01:21 AM
1

frankly from my perspective it seems that the causes to my problems are very rational. like i need to have good looks if i ever plan to get dates, for examples. im working to improve it but there is only so much i can do. sometimes i feel like genetics are the ultimate decider of how your life will go. and i already watch those youtube channels plenty, but i still cant shake of many redpill ideas. i still largely cant trust women.
/r/ExRedPill11/10/20 12:41 AM
1

i didnt even have many friends before this pandemic started, let alone anyone who would be sexually interested in me, so clearly there is something wrong with my personal attractiveness. and yeah, im already am a furry and i do have some furry online friends, and i do like the positive parts of the community, but they're really my only friends, two to be exact.
/r/ExRedPill11/10/20 12:17 AM
1

i already watch plenty of those youtube channels you mentioned. hell i even have a kurztgesagt poster in my room. but here i am, equipped with all the tools you suggested and im still having doubts
/r/ExRedPill11/10/20 12:14 AM
1

i can hold large, complex ideas no problem, and i often think about them, explore them, and talk about them with the friends i do have. and why should i care what you are and arent interested in? i have my own intrests and im not gonna pick up something i couldnt care less about just to impress people.
/r/ExRedPill10/10/20 11:28 PM
1

i already have medication. books still arent my thing, theyre incredibly boring most of the time. and how is not liking books a turnoff?
/r/ExRedPill10/10/20 11:11 PM
4

i see. wow, yeah, that does discribe the redpill quite accurately.
/r/ExRedPill10/10/20 11:00 PM
2

i havent been able to date anyone yet. i worry if i'll ever be able to date at all. im working towards making myself more attractive: working out, eating healthy, skincare routines, better hygiene - but i dont know if that will all be worth it and if i'll be able to get some dates in the end.
/r/ExRedPill10/10/20 10:49 PM
2

thanks. im trying to take better care of myself for sure
/r/ExRedPill10/10/20 10:39 PM
1

okay, thanks, and good analogy.
/r/ExRedPill10/10/20 10:11 PM
5

i take full responcibility for that. i was riled up and kinda just needed to vent and i didnt do it in the heathiest way
/r/ExRedPill10/10/20 10:09 PM
2

good, glad we could agree on something
/r/ExRedPill10/10/20 09:31 PM
0

That doesn't help me and you were a waste of my time
/r/ExRedPill10/10/20 09:29 PM
2

We need to work towards finding a solution. I think better social programs and workers rights and safety could help the homeless males or decrease the male work mortality rates. Also male issues need more publicity
/r/ExRedPill10/10/20 09:17 PM
1

Oh sure, I'll just magically stop feeling isolated and miserable and not complain as to bottle up my feelings and then one day kill my self. Thanks for the help.
/r/ExRedPill10/10/20 08:40 PM
2

I know misogyny is a problem for those reasons, you're telling me something I already know. What I'm saying is that men's problem are caused by a lot more factors and plenty of times the patriarchy has nothing to do with it
/r/ExRedPill10/10/20 08:32 PM
1

I already follow a skincare subreddit. And books aren't really my thing. I prefer to read Short articles or watch educational videos. I have A.D.D. so I don't really have the attention span for a full book
/r/ExRedPill10/10/20 08:18 PM
1

Fine. I don't know what women deal with. And you don't know what men deal with either. At least we can agree that neither of us have any idea what we're talking about
/r/ExRedPill10/10/20 08:01 PM
2

I have gone to therapy and I have hanged out with more liberal people. And I'm trying to leave the redpill, not retreat to it. Stop putting words in my mouth, you don't know me.
/r/ExRedPill10/10/20 07:58 PM
0

Sure, I'll go out and maybe catch a deadly disease in the process. Wonderful idea
/r/ExRedPill10/10/20 07:53 PM
1

also men's issues are due to a lot more then partriarchy or misogyny. i doubt theres much of that involved in the higher amount of male work-place deaths. or how many men get fucked by the family coart systems. or the higher amounts of male suicide. or the fact that there are a lot more male homicide victims then women
/r/ExRedPill10/10/20 07:28 PM
1

youre not a man and similarly you dont know what we go through either im working on things that i want to get, thats why im here in the first place
/r/ExRedPill10/10/20 07:21 PM
1

all my school is online. i already know everyone at my work and we're not even friends really, just aqantences. also there is a virus going around, with the whole Covid ordeal, so even going to a cheap festival is a bad idea.
/r/ExRedPill10/10/20 07:19 PM
1

once again, stop putting words in my mouth, i do know what women go through. everything youve told me about womens problems is redundant to me. but, i will say this again, to me, as of how things are going on now in our current society, the average man seems to have it harder then the average women. and thats bad and we need to tackle that. can you at least agree that problems should be solved and that so many of men's problems get ignored?
/r/ExRedPill10/10/20 07:09 PM
1

yeah but going to concerts and finding new hobbies can take a lot of time and money, both of which i dont have much of beause im going to college and working a job. that and already going to the gym and keeping up with what freinds i do have. i may get over-stressed if i make my scedual even more complex and tight.
/r/ExRedPill10/10/20 07:04 PM
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okay then what skincare routine do you suggest? also no its not a matter of disgusing laziness with pretension, i geuininely just dont have favorites when to comes to people. never have and likely never will. but i'll certainly look into better styles i can use. problem is i dont have all the money in the world to perchase a whole new wardrobe
/r/ExRedPill10/10/20 07:01 PM
2

i guess so
/r/ExRedPill10/10/20 06:55 PM
2

boys get bullied for things out of their control too, youre not special. yes bullying is bad, which is why we need to cater to stopping bulling in general no matter who its aimed towards. in my personal experience though, and from plentyof things ive seen online. almost no one gives a shit about boys who are bullied for their bodies and looks.
/r/ExRedPill10/10/20 06:54 PM
1

thanks, ive been working hard to make things better and i plan to work even harder. but i dont know where to go to meet people or how i should spark up a friendship or relationship. and once again, id rather have to deal with other people and be fucked up by them rather than rotting alone and ignored.
/r/ExRedPill10/10/20 06:40 PM
0

i dont even know where to find good people yet, or good people would even want to hang out with me at my current state
/r/ExRedPill10/10/20 06:38 PM
1

first of all i think slut-shaming is neccessary so people dont go all crazy sleeping around. in fact i think we should start shaming guys for sleeping around all the time too. secondly, no i am not aware of what the effect of negative attention is, but at the same time i doubt youre aware of how much social isolation and lack of any itimacy can effect a young man. seems like we generally just dont get each other at all. plus, stop putting words in my mouth. i have problems and doubts and im work…
/r/ExRedPill10/10/20 06:35 PM
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Its horrific that you had to go through that tramatic experience. but that doesnt change the fact that social isolation and getting no attention or intemacy at all fucking sucks and i want to change it.
/r/ExRedPill10/10/20 06:28 PM
1

bewteen starving and being force-fed trash, i'd rather be force fed trash. at least i dont, you know, fucking starve to death. im just tired of having bariely any friends and haven never dated or have any intimacy at all. im working to improve but i still have many doubts that i need to work out.
/r/ExRedPill10/10/20 06:23 PM
0

i bet your average female friends have never been turned down nearly as many times as the average man. and to be honest, yes i am aware of the problems that women have to deal with, but it seems to me from what experiences i have now, that women, on average, in the western world have an easier time then average men in a lot of ways.
/r/ExRedPill10/10/20 06:20 PM
1

i mean that would be nice to date a girl like that but currently i havent dated ever so dating pretty much any girl, like, at all would be nice.
/r/ExRedPill10/10/20 06:18 PM
1

fair point
/r/ExRedPill10/10/20 06:17 PM
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yes but all those standards just come from make-up companies trying to insight insecurity to get you to buy their products. when it comes to dating there will almost always be a surplus of men somewhere who are willing to date a women even if she doesnt withhold those standards. for men is a much different story, you have to be at least a 7/10 to get any dates. some people below that in looks or style can get dates too but that is the exception and not the rule. the only real reason women even w…
/r/ExRedPill10/10/20 06:09 PM
-4

id rather get attention from bad people then no attention at all and complete loneliness
/r/ExRedPill10/10/20 05:57 PM
1

in my morning skincare routine i currently just used anti-acne cream followed by some toner, and maybe then some rosehip oil. after all that i then use moisterizer on my face, neck, and arms. and i am looking into more complex skincare routines if my current one doesnt work out for me. and i dont have favorite fashion desigerns because im simply not the type to have favorite people. i dont have a favorite celebrety, or favorite youtuber, or favorite sports star, or anything like that.
/r/ExRedPill10/10/20 05:54 PM
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well the thing is that women can just use make-up and thats socially acceptable, but strait men cant really do it because of how much its looked down upon. plus, i feel like standards for men are higher. for women its makeup and dont be obese or stinky, for men its be tall, have a six-pack, have great hair, have a lot of money, have a definded jawline, have great social skills, be healthy, etc ect. overall if a man wants to have the same dating power as the average women he has to put in a lot m…
/r/ExRedPill10/10/20 05:41 PM
1

i guess the option you're looking for is "its because of their personal issues and issues with our culture"
/r/ExRedPill08/10/20 05:41 PM
3

well, i think a lot of incels are incels because they want to be able to get an actual relationship or actually be able to attract and be appreciated by women. the whole sex part doesnt matter to them because, of course, most are aware that you can buy a sex worker if you wanna have that.
/r/ExRedPill08/10/20 05:39 PM
1

i share the same hate for consumerism and capitalism and how it effects our society. Its either gonna exploit everyone and everything to death eventually, or we'll have to overthrow it. i dont see this going any other way.
/r/ExRedPill08/10/20 01:32 AM
1

Jahovah's whitnesses? oh yeah, i know about them, pretty terrible. i am aware of the authoritarian regime that the watchtower society emposes over the members of their cult.
/r/ExRedPill08/10/20 01:00 AM
1

i see, good points. out of curiousity, if youre comfortable with talking about it, what cult were you apart of?
/r/ExRedPill08/10/20 12:55 AM
5

i suppose "its because of their personal issues and issues with our culture" would be the catagory that fits in
/r/ExRedPill07/10/20 09:05 PM
1

Okay, then what are the 'right' sources and how are human relations actually suspose to work?
/r/ExRedPill07/10/20 07:58 PM
1

i havent been able to find the original study behind this yet. just this image or other ones similar to this. i suppose it could simply be labeled as bullshit redpill propaganda
/r/ExRedPill02/10/20 12:29 PM
1

i havent been able to find the actual study, ive just seen this picture in several red pill (or similar) circles from time to time.
/r/ExRedPill02/10/20 02:24 AM
1

fair point. it does make me wonder where they got the imformation from the picture though. So far i havent been able to find the orginal servey
/r/ExRedPill01/10/20 09:38 PM
1

fair point
/r/ExRedPill26/09/20 02:10 PM
2

well said
/r/ExRedPill25/09/20 11:58 PM
1

I'll be sure to check them out
/r/ExRedPill25/09/20 01:11 PM
1

also on the topic of 'real man', if you dont like what others say a 'real man' is, then just ignore it! plus, a 'real man' is pretty much just a social contruct anyway, and subject to change. our concept of a man now is a lot different than it wasy 100 years ago, and the concept of a man 100 years ago is a lot different than the concept of a man 1000 years ago. if you wanna hate feminists for pulling the real man card, then go ahead, but hating EVERY women just because a single one bashed poor m…
/r/ExRedPill23/09/20 12:23 PM
1

huh, wow, well said.
/r/ExRedPill22/09/20 09:05 PM
1

okay but thats just a single women, not the entire population. if she doesnt like broke men thats her problem.
/r/ExRedPill22/09/20 08:22 PM
1

i see.
/r/ExRedPill21/09/20 08:49 PM
1

listen im trying to get over my doubts and mistrust caused by the redpill, thats why im here.
/r/ExRedPill21/09/20 02:26 PM
1

fair point
/r/ExRedPill21/09/20 02:25 PM
1

true
/r/ExRedPill21/09/20 02:24 PM
1

i see. personally i think the redpill will hold me back in life, it certainly has given me trust issues when it comes to women, which im trying to get around. and i already acknowledge that women are gonna be more picky when it comes to picking a partner then men are, its just a matter of how picky. like, if women have super unrealistic standards for instance
/r/ExRedPill21/09/20 12:39 PM
1

mainly online
/r/ExRedPill21/09/20 12:39 PM
1

i see. that does make sense.
/r/ExRedPill20/09/20 04:33 PM
1

oh, okay thank you. also you may want to fix your link, it doesnt work, at least not for me.
/r/ExRedPill20/09/20 04:33 PM
1

i see. have you done well in those arguements?
/r/ExRedPill20/09/20 04:32 PM
1

thank you.
/r/ExRedPill20/09/20 12:34 PM
1

i suppose so
/r/ExRedPill20/09/20 12:31 PM
1

i acknowledge that.
/r/ExRedPill20/09/20 05:13 AM
1

im already going to college but its all online. i havent decided what career feild i want to go into and for now i work at a Whitts barbeque place. i get along well with my co-workers but i its not like we're offically friends or anything. and yeah, i acknowledge that im gonna have to 'swim out to my ship' in life, but im very busy with other things such as work, college, working out, all that stuff. plus, im an introvert and kind of shy, that doesnt help when youre trying to make friends. im st…
/r/ExRedPill20/09/20 05:13 AM
2

well i dont know even where to hang out because all my hobbies are done solo, and i have no fucking friends!
/r/ExRedPill20/09/20 03:56 AM
1

personally i would not date anyone convicted of any felons, but some guys may be desparate enough to do so, or blinded by attraction. i suppose what this says about men and women is that attraction can be blinding to people, and if youre attractive enough, people will still wanna have sex with you no matter what terrible things youve done.
/r/ExRedPill20/09/20 02:58 AM
6

well said, thank you RedPillDetox, and thanks for your work as a moderator. Keep an eye out for redpill and blackpill lurkers on here, i do sometimes notice them in the comments of a couple posts.
/r/ExRedPill20/09/20 01:04 AM
1

Agreed
/r/ExRedPill20/09/20 01:02 AM
2

Thanks, respect to you too
/r/ExRedPill20/09/20 12:37 AM
1

well said
/r/ExRedPill20/09/20 12:15 AM
1

oh, well thats good to hear!
/r/ExRedPill20/09/20 12:03 AM
1

i guess so. im struggling a bit with overcoming my redpill indoctirnation. each time i think ive got it figured out and im free from it, another redpill worry comes creeping in from the back of my mind.
/r/ExRedPill20/09/20 12:03 AM
1

oh, i see, good for you! i hope your marriage is going well
/r/ExRedPill19/09/20 11:52 PM
4

i know, ive been judging people too quickly and making assumptions because of my fears that were emplanted into me due to the redpill. thats why im here, to try and get over those fears and my misconceptions. unfortunatly the redpill has certainly warped/ruined my ability to trust women, which i hope to fix.
/r/ExRedPill19/09/20 11:52 PM
3

well said
/r/ExRedPill19/09/20 11:48 PM
1

mhh, well you might get a lot of matches if you did that, but it would only further confirm the statement that 'looks are the only thing that matters' and what the person does doesnt
/r/ExRedPill19/09/20 11:48 PM
1

fair points, and well said
/r/ExRedPill19/09/20 10:43 PM
1

fair point
/r/ExRedPill19/09/20 10:42 PM
0

i suppose the kind of 'asshole' i mean in this context is someone with an IDGAF attitude who does pretty much whatever he wants to other people because he doesnt care for them and works for exclusively his own gain. you know, the stareotypical 'chad' or 'alpha' type person
/r/ExRedPill19/09/20 10:22 PM
1

i see
/r/ExRedPill19/09/20 10:19 PM
8

i see, really well said
/r/ExRedPill19/09/20 10:18 PM
3

i see. well said
/r/ExRedPill19/09/20 09:34 PM
3

well, im an introvert first of all, second of all there is a pandemic going around, and third of all i live with my parents, and if i try to go anywhere they get all up in my business
/r/ExRedPill19/09/20 09:33 PM
3

i'll look it up for sure
/r/ExRedPill19/09/20 09:32 PM
1

i guess so
/r/ExRedPill19/09/20 09:31 PM
3

i dont accept the behavior, man or women, im just saying that it seems girls fall for assholes more often then men do.
/r/ExRedPill19/09/20 09:03 PM
1

i suppose so. but it does seems that more often women fall for assholes then men do. then again, maybe my observations are incorrect
/r/ExRedPill19/09/20 08:50 PM
0

i guess so. but between a really handsome guy with no confidence, and a ugly guy with a ton of confidence, im sure most girls would go for the handsome guy
/r/ExRedPill19/09/20 08:49 PM
-1

yes, but are those happy couples? genuine couples? its hard to tell. maybe some gals are just with certain guys so they can be her 'betabux' boyfriend while she really cheats on him all the time with more handsome guys. i dont know, i have a lot of doubts about the loyality of all these women in those relationships
/r/ExRedPill19/09/20 08:47 PM
0

fair point, i suppose men can be attracted to assholes. but its not really because she is an asshole, its usually for other reasons, and they just decide to deal with the asshole part of her.
/r/ExRedPill19/09/20 08:44 PM
-2

fair point. but sometimes women are attracted to assholes and people who treat them like shit if they are attractive enough for it.
/r/ExRedPill19/09/20 08:37 PM
4

i suppose so.
/r/ExRedPill19/09/20 07:37 PM
0

yeah, i do see the pattern. but there are certainly some questions i am bound to have that will be brought up. i mean, those redpill/blackpill guys cant date for some reason. and i have never dated before either frankly, so so dont know much about it.
/r/ExRedPill19/09/20 07:10 PM
2

mhh, i see. i think the stigma that women have way to high standards comes from dating apps, or something like that
/r/ExRedPill19/09/20 07:07 PM
1

i see. ive never felt something like that so i cant relate
/r/ExRedPill19/09/20 03:18 AM
1

let me guess, this guy was hella attractive right? or maybe a "bad boy", or something like that?
/r/ExRedPill19/09/20 02:36 AM
1

Thanks a bunch!
/r/ExRedPill18/09/20 07:07 PM
1

The red pill, which I'm trying to get out of
/r/ExRedPill18/09/20 03:19 PM
1

mhh, my parent's relationship seems to be going well, and so does the relationship between my sister and her boyfriend. also of course i have some aunts and uncles but i dont see them often so i dont know what goes on behind closed doors. other than that, no, not really. and ive never experienced a relationship myself.
/r/ExRedPill18/09/20 12:44 PM
1

well, i guess purple pill can be equated to people who are on the fense about TRP too. for this post i simply wanted peoples opinions of the purple pill and what they thought about it
/r/ExRedPill18/09/20 12:37 PM
1

fair point
/r/ExRedPill18/09/20 12:36 PM
1

exactly
/r/ExRedPill18/09/20 12:35 PM
3

actually i think bluepill was a term created by the redpill to describe basically anyone who doesnt subscribe their ideology. just anyother tactic to refute what outsiders say and allow members of their group from getting actual, useful advice from outsiders because in the redpill, if youre 'bluepill', or 'beta', or a 'soyboy', youre immediently wrong by default
/r/ExRedPill18/09/20 04:18 AM
1

true
/r/ExRedPill18/09/20 04:15 AM
1

thanks a bunch
/r/ExRedPill18/09/20 04:14 AM
1

are there any psychology courses you could suggest?
/r/ExRedPill18/09/20 03:41 AM
1

well i guess the purple pill is basically a mindset between redpill and bluepill, so to speak. or i guess you could say that purple pill is like, diet redpill, for lack of a better term. holding some redpill ideas but not all of them. bascially cherrypicking the ideas you agree with and ignoring the ones you dont
/r/ExRedPill18/09/20 03:20 AM
1

the point is those relationships exist, so he must be doing something right to get them. and yeah, that is a fair point, it better to have one/a few really good relationships rather than plenty of terrible ones.
/r/ExRedPill18/09/20 03:18 AM
-1

i see. actually from personal experience, a lot of redpillers claim that most, if not all women have some form of mental disorder, its just a matter if its diagnosed yet or not
/r/ExRedPill18/09/20 02:47 AM
1

i see. maybe you should make a post asking about if women operate on ulterior motives or if they are faithful, or how women act differently in relationships then men
/r/ExRedPill18/09/20 02:19 AM
1

me too frankly.
/r/ExRedPill18/09/20 02:17 AM
0

fair. what do you think of the purple pill mindset though?
/r/ExRedPill18/09/20 02:07 AM
1

i see. well i hope you are able to get out of that toxic mindset that youve had
/r/ExRedPill18/09/20 01:51 AM
2

fair points, and good for you and your partner
/r/ExRedPill18/09/20 01:49 AM
1

could you give some examples?
/r/ExRedPill18/09/20 01:48 AM
-1

oh, really? well how can you tell?
/r/ExRedPill18/09/20 01:30 AM
1

i see. thanks
/r/ExRedPill18/09/20 12:17 AM
1

fair point
/r/ExRedPill17/09/20 11:48 PM
2

fair point, and im happy to hear that youre doing so well
/r/ExRedPill17/09/20 11:47 PM
1

i see. thanks for the study
/r/ExRedPill17/09/20 10:18 PM
2

wow, yikes.
/r/ExRedPill17/09/20 10:18 PM
1

true. but the point remains that he has gotten a lot of relationships, and he is still in his current one.
/r/ExRedPill17/09/20 10:16 PM
2

fair point. i mean, its better to try and fail then to never try at all, i guess
/r/ExRedPill17/09/20 09:42 PM
1

i honestly have no idea how well his relationships have gone. ive not seen any video of his that meantions it. then again he does give advice on how to maintain a 'great relationship' so supposidly his relationship is going alright if the tactics he preaches/are using actually work
/r/ExRedPill17/09/20 09:26 PM
1

you have been very condecending. then again, maybe im just misinterpreting what youre trying to get across.
/r/ExRedPill17/09/20 09:24 PM
1

Well I don't know how to start dating and if I'm even attractive enough for it
/r/ExRedPill17/09/20 04:50 PM
1

Okay, I get it, I may be wrong about things. You don't have to be an asshole about it. Listen, just show me proof to your claims, and give some advice of what I'm actually supposed to do
/r/ExRedPill17/09/20 03:17 PM
1

okay first of all calm down, im not trying to advertise for anyone, im just stating things based off my own experiences and observations. i very well may be wrong. and no im not trying to make myself seem to be part of any special group, i dont even consider myself an incel or anything like that, it just seems that there are a lot of men who struggle with getting dates/laid. and while on the context of 'doing the work to not be an ill equipped social primate' then what do i do to become equipped…
/r/ExRedPill17/09/20 02:09 PM
1

well, clearly there seems to be a lot of men that are struggling to get dates and such, if there werent there wouldnt be so many incels and dating programs wouldnt be such a behemoth of a buisness model if people werent struggleing with dating as much.
/r/ExRedPill17/09/20 01:50 PM
1

he claims that he had several relationships and hookups before settling down with his current girlfriend, and he has pictures of himself with all those girls to prove it. i dont know how long hes been in a relationship with his current girlfriend but i know that he started it when he was in his early thirties. supposidly he didng get any dates during his teen years but through trial and error, and advice from others, he was able to kickstart his sex/dating life.
/r/ExRedPill17/09/20 12:45 PM
1

i see. however it does seem that a lot of sexual freedom like you describe doesnt actually help men as much. it just creates a lot of incels amoung the ugly, average, and poor, while all of the handsome, strong, and rich men get all of the women. feast for a few, famine for the rest.
/r/ExRedPill17/09/20 12:42 PM
2

okay, i know its important to be authentic, but like, what if the way i am now is not enough for anyone? like, ive never dated before, maybe its because im boring, or something? the fact ive never dated leaves a constant looming dread over me that something is wrong with me
/r/ExRedPill17/09/20 12:40 PM
1

yep. the ol' "pump n' dump" strategy, as they call it. MGTOW men who still wanna get laid follow the same tactic
/r/ExRedPill17/09/20 12:37 PM
1

haha, yeah, fair point
/r/ExRedPill17/09/20 12:36 PM
1

thanks. i'll certainly check mark manson out
/r/ExRedPill17/09/20 12:34 PM
-1

frankly id rather get a whole dating pool of people who just wanna fuck me but dont actually care about me rather than no dating pool at all.
/r/ExRedPill17/09/20 12:29 PM
1

thanks a lot!
/r/ExRedPill17/09/20 02:58 AM
3

thanks
/r/ExRedPill17/09/20 02:57 AM
1

do you have any alternate dating advice that youd like to give?
/r/ExRedPill17/09/20 02:31 AM
1

i see. what dating advice do you suggest then?
/r/ExRedPill17/09/20 02:30 AM
2

wow. Thanks a lot. i really needed to hear all that
/r/ExRedPill16/09/20 10:50 PM
2

i see. thanks
/r/ExRedPill16/09/20 10:32 PM
2

good point
/r/ExRedPill16/09/20 10:09 PM
2

how is it dumb? you didnt really provide a counterpoint
/r/ExRedPill16/09/20 08:35 PM
3

oh thats good to hear! i hope it continues to go well for them!
/r/ExRedPill16/09/20 04:34 PM
1

wow, good for those two, i hope their relationship continues to go well. then again, the redpill would probably put him off as the 'betabuxx' guy and claim that she is cheating on someone who is much more attractive and that kid probably isnt even his, or something like that. then again, that can be the case, and with dating apps and instant messaging its much easier than ever for people to cheat. if that couple you describe truely is in a loving, fair relationship, and not a fake one, then that…
/r/ExRedPill16/09/20 04:03 PM
2

true
/r/ExRedPill16/09/20 03:58 PM
6

i see. well your generousity is certainly admirable. there really needs to be more generocity in the world.
/r/ExRedPill16/09/20 03:57 PM
0

fair points. however with the raise of the internet, instant communication, dating apps, etc, its much easier for a girl to get a 'winner' now more than ever, and there is virtually no restrictions on hypergamy nowadays and with the prevelent 'hookup culture' women have so many more options, and it seems to me that a lot of gals would rather ride the 'cock carolsel' rather than settle with any fixer upper.
/r/ExRedPill16/09/20 03:56 PM
3

I see, good example. do you know how thier relationship is going? just curious
/r/ExRedPill16/09/20 03:52 PM
1

well, i guess in the redpill context, the 'finishline' is optaining a high level of LVS (looks, money, status) and/or SMV (sex market value) and reaching some level of 'chad-hood' for lack of a better term. and youre right that the redpill states that anything women do will never be enough, in fact one of the redpill strategies is, if youre dating a girl already, to treat her like she is never enough to you, to never validate her and never show satisfaction to anything she does, so that she'll k…
/r/ExRedPill16/09/20 12:35 PM
2

good points
/r/ExRedPill16/09/20 12:28 PM
8

huh, yeah i didnt consider that. redpill does have a lot of contridictions.
/r/ExRedPill16/09/20 12:27 PM
1

Okay, thanks for your insights
/r/ExRedPill16/09/20 12:25 PM
1

thats vague and unhelpful. can you give more specific, and (if your willing to share) personal examples?
/r/ExRedPill16/09/20 04:47 AM
1

good points
/r/ExRedPill16/09/20 04:15 AM
1

can you provide some examples? that would be helpful getting this idea out of my head
/r/ExRedPill16/09/20 03:47 AM
1

really well said. its entirely possible to get to a point in life where you are so focused on other goals or are already content with what you have that sex and attraction and all that wont even matter to you. and dont believe what blackpillers say that living such a lifestyle is 'cope'. i mean, look at asexuals, they dont care about sex at all and can live happy lives.
/r/ExRedPill16/09/20 12:05 AM
3

eh, true. his conception of vegans is misconstrued, but other than that he does have plenty of helpful and thought provoking insights on certain things.
/r/ExRedPill15/09/20 02:48 AM
3

yeah, no. the redpill is very harmful in several ways, and im sure if you keep browzing this subreddit you'll recognise that. sure, we shouldnt ignore societal problems, but there is a huge difference between acknowlegding a problem and society, and retreating into a harmful ideology because of that problem. personally i think things like onlyfans should be banned or at least restricted, yes, and men need to be taught to have greater self-respect than to use such services, but redpill is just wa…
/r/ExRedPill15/09/20 01:41 AM
1

really well said
/r/ExRedPill14/09/20 08:33 PM
1

fairpoint. serveys are still important, but are but one peice of a big puzzle. for instance, going back to the room analogy, someone who looks inside it just through the keyhole or someone who looks inside through the blinds of a window or someone who looks through a crack in the wall. they can all come to different conclusions based on what they can see through their own hole, but sharing that information together can create a more accurate description of the room they are all trying to look in…
/r/ExRedPill14/09/20 08:32 PM
3

exactly. studies that red/blackpillers often like to site are studies of sample sizes, not entire populations. its like looking through a keyhole to see the room on the other side, and then claiming that you know everything about that room based off just what you could see through the hole, when there are undoubtably many things in the large room that cannot be seen through that hole.
/r/ExRedPill14/09/20 08:02 PM
1

fair points.
/r/ExRedPill14/09/20 07:15 PM
1

mhh, good points. but the mass focus on womens problems and supporting women much more then men can lead to a lot of women holding a sense of greater entitlement over men, dont you think?
/r/ExRedPill14/09/20 06:30 PM
1

mhh, i guess there are a lot of societal double standards which may enforce entitlement. for instance the body positivity movement, which ive noticed mainly just focuses on women's body positivity. its far more socially acceptable for one to bully a man about their appearance, but if you bully a women shes more likely to be defended by someone. another instance of a double standard is abuse. people are far more likley to stop a boyfriend being aggressive towards his girlfriend, but wont bat an e…
/r/ExRedPill14/09/20 05:49 PM
3

good points
/r/ExRedPill14/09/20 04:49 PM
1

thanks. i'll ceratinly look into it when i get the chance
/r/ExRedPill14/09/20 12:33 PM
1

oh, thanks a lot. i appreciate it. i might read the book if i have the time. thanks for the tid-bits
/r/ExRedPill14/09/20 05:02 AM
1

cool. yeah, it really is up to me. and yeah, exredpill has certainly helped me realise that redpill is bullshit
/r/ExRedPill14/09/20 02:44 AM
1

good to hear that youre doing better
/r/ExRedPill14/09/20 02:43 AM
2

yikes, thats really harsh. what your stepfather and ex-lover did to you is unexcusable. i know that trama is hard to recover from but know that there are people and groups you can reach out to.
/r/ExRedPill14/09/20 02:10 AM
1

exactly, good points
/r/ExRedPill14/09/20 02:08 AM
6

wow, well said. that describes the red pill pretty well.
/r/ExRedPill14/09/20 01:43 AM
1

to be fair, i agree with the self improvement aspect, and looking out for red flags aspect of the redpill. but everything else from their hate/misconception of women to manipluation tactics i do not agree with in the slightest. i mean, i wouldnt want those tactics to be used on me. we're all humans and we need connection and empathy, not control. i wish there was some group that took out the hate and just had the good, self improvement parts of the rp. is that purple pill perhaps? im unsure. als…
/r/ExRedPill14/09/20 01:38 AM
4

yeah, true. lots of incels/rpers dont want healthy relationship with a women, they want a slave
/r/ExRedPill14/09/20 01:10 AM
1

i do agree with the parts of the redpill that say that you should focus on self improvement and let your greatness attract people, but thats really the only nugget of gold in the trashheep mountain that is the red pill. if there was some sort of self-improvement group that gave genuine dating advice but didnt have hate and preach deceptive tactics, i'd join that honestly.
/r/ExRedPill13/09/20 10:23 PM
1

fair points
/r/ExRedPill13/09/20 08:32 PM
1

i see
/r/ExRedPill13/09/20 07:36 PM
2

oh yeah, its aweful. misandry is just as bad as misogeny and the fact that its so widely accepted in society is disheartening
/r/ExRedPill13/09/20 07:12 PM
3

thank you RedpillDetox. also good luck on being a moderator of this sub reddit, a lot of black/red pill guys like to sometimes creep into here and spread their propaganda
/r/ExRedPill13/09/20 07:00 PM
2

yeah, good point. it seems that a lot of dehumanizing/antagonising tactics try to paint the 'enemy' as both machiavellian and animalistic/clueless at the same time, which is, in reality, inconsistant and impossible to exist in both states.
/r/ExRedPill13/09/20 06:58 PM
2

yeah, that inconsistancy is certainly a thorn in the side of the beast that is redpill ideology. and thanks, im a very curious person, and i like to be in the know about things, and setting them strait. i'll certainly be asking more questions on r/exredpill if i have them
/r/ExRedPill13/09/20 06:56 PM
2

i didnt think of it that way. yeah, some redpillers claim that women are clever machiavellian decievers, while others claim that they are bascially just taller children whom are slaves to their instincts. its inconsistant
/r/ExRedPill13/09/20 06:39 PM
3

thats a pretty good way to putting it
/r/ExRedPill13/09/20 06:35 PM
3

good point
/r/ExRedPill13/09/20 06:33 PM
2

mhh, fair. i had a few female friends back in highschool who treated me pretty well. and my female co-workers apart of my first job were also pretty nice to me.
/r/ExRedPill13/09/20 04:47 PM
3

true. its on the same level of how nazi's talked about jews or how american slave owners talked about african americans. describing them as sub human. saying that theyre better off dead or enslaved.
/r/ExRedPill13/09/20 01:19 PM
2

okay, thanks for your insight
/r/ExRedPill13/09/20 01:16 PM
2

mhh, good point. and it just so happens that they insult all other men who happen to be outside of their cult.
/r/ExRedPill13/09/20 01:15 PM
1

i see. well, they do say that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, something like that
/r/ExRedPill13/09/20 01:06 PM
1

eh, online dating has been ruined in a lot of ways. just look at how incels/redpillers/mgtow use statistics on dating apps and such like that to try and prove their points
/r/ExRedPill13/09/20 01:05 PM
1

thanks
/r/ExRedPill13/09/20 01:04 PM
2

ah, i see. thanks a lot for your insights
/r/ExRedPill13/09/20 05:16 AM
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i guess so. i suppose that quote is basically saying that when you learn 'female nature' then it will cause you to dispise women, or something. which come to think of it does sound very inline with redpill ideas, and is kinda rediculous
/r/ExRedPill13/09/20 05:15 AM
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yeah, true.
/r/ExRedPill13/09/20 01:15 AM
2

fair point.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/20 11:28 PM
1

well im really not the type to go to bars but i suppose that could work in other situations
/r/ExRedPill12/09/20 10:50 PM
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mhh, good points, i appreciate your insight
/r/ExRedPill12/09/20 10:19 PM
1

well, i havent dated at all, so i wouldnt know, and i dont really know how to start dating either
/r/ExRedPill12/09/20 10:18 PM
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wow, well said
/r/ExRedPill12/09/20 10:18 PM
4

fairpoint. i do love both my mother and sister, they are great people, but i suppose the quote morely refers to women in a romantic context. fair points by the way
/r/ExRedPill12/09/20 10:17 PM
2

mhh, good point. thanks
/r/ExRedPill12/09/20 10:16 PM
1

i see. thanks for your insights
/r/ExRedPill12/09/20 08:18 PM
2

wow, thanks a lot. i appreciate it
/r/ExRedPill12/09/20 08:17 PM
1

I guess suggestions where I can meet good potential partners would be nice
/r/ExRedPill12/09/20 05:28 PM
2

Thanks a bunch, I'll look into those articles
/r/ExRedPill12/09/20 05:23 PM
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Mgh, good points, thank you
/r/ExRedPill12/09/20 05:14 PM
3

Wow, I didn't think about that. Thanks. I'll certainly work to be the best version of myself
/r/ExRedPill12/09/20 03:30 PM
1

Thanks. If you'd like to give any advice when it comes to dating, or share your experiences that make it worth it, that would be appreciated
/r/ExRedPill12/09/20 03:28 PM
6

Exactly
/r/ExRedPill12/09/20 03:17 PM
4

Yeah, I've noticed a lot of redpill stuff on here too, it's a shame. And I did state that I am bisexual, so I would still be able to date men. But I'm questioning if I should date women, so I made this post in hopes that I could get genuine advice from fellow ex redpillers, and I would make my decision based on my own evaluations of their advice and shared experiences. But low and behold, it attracted a bunch of redpill lurkers to try to take advantage of my doubts and drag me back to that hellh…
/r/ExRedPill12/09/20 03:09 PM
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i do not put anyone on a pedistal
/r/ExRedPill12/09/20 02:30 PM
2

good for you on having better friends. frankly i too would rather take a small handful of really good friends rather than a whole lot of "friends" who i dont have very close relationships with
/r/ExRedPill12/09/20 01:33 PM
2

ah, i see. good points. so, the whole AA/BB ordeal is inforced morely by systematic and cultureal things than it is 'female nature'. or at least thats what i evaluated from your responce. also, while we're on the subject (you seem pretty knowledgeable) what is your stance on 'female nature'?
/r/ExRedPill12/09/20 01:31 PM
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i want advice from ex-redpill folk, not redpill folk. the redpill and its ideals are very dehumanizing and it greatly damaged my mental healthy with how much it made me hate women for exaggerated or outright wrong/non-existant reasons. i do not want to hate any women. i just want some insights from other ex-redpillers on their advice and experiences with women, and base my decision on rather to date them or not from my own evaluations. i wont accept advice from you. and please, for your own sake…
/r/ExRedPill12/09/20 12:18 PM
1

okay, thanks a bunch for your insights. now that you mention it, the whole 80/20 thing is pretty reinforced by certain cultural things, and other systems at play, even if a lot of people dont realize it. also, speaking of the beta buxx theory, what is your stance on that one? the AA/BB is a theory that i have been questioning a lot, but couldnt come to a conclusion to, so your insights would be helpful.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/20 04:41 AM
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this is not a troll post, no. and yes, i know that women are people too, of course we all are, but the thing is that people in general are pretty stupid and can be pretty terrible, including myself. i have come on here to try and unskew my veiws of women, but im struggling to do so, which is why i made this post to perhaps get some help/advise that would lead me to solve any misconceptions i have. and im not sure if im even able to date casually. ive never tried hookups or going out or anything …
/r/ExRedPill12/09/20 01:49 AM
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i see. that does make sense now that i actually think about it. i guess i'lll just have to do my best working on myself and appreciate the relationships i can get, weither it be with a man or woman.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/20 12:42 AM
1

no problem bro. however even if 80/20 rule does apply to strait sex/relationships, i do wonder if it, or something similar, is true when it comes to gay relationships. i mean, i am bi, so deciding to opt out of dating women is entirely possible for me if its too much of a struggle
/r/ExRedPill12/09/20 12:05 AM
1

i see. well i do hope you manage to have a healthy relationship sometime in your life, if that is what you are looking for of course
/r/ExRedPill11/09/20 11:54 PM
1

damn, thats harsh. have you at least had good relationships?
/r/ExRedPill11/09/20 11:40 PM
1

thanks for the advice
/r/ExRedPill11/09/20 11:39 PM
1

so are you saying that only the top 20% of men have a good sex life?
/r/ExRedPill11/09/20 10:53 PM
1

wow, really well said. personally i thing strength comes from characteristics and skills built over time, such as disapline, virtue, honesty, and courage.
/r/ExRedPill11/09/20 10:26 PM
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mhh, fair point. people have strengths in one area and weaknesses in others.
/r/ExRedPill11/09/20 12:20 PM
1

i see, i never used tinder so i wouldnt know about that.
/r/ExRedPill11/09/20 12:19 PM
1

Mhh, fair points, thats a good example
/r/ExRedPill11/09/20 12:18 PM
1

well, i was morely refurring to younger generations of women who are more familar with using dating websites and dealing with simps, but i appreciate your insight nonetheless
/r/ExRedPill11/09/20 03:47 AM
2

good points. I dont have any experience dating, and im bisexual so the gender of my partner doesnt matter, but a lot of the redpill stuff has made me doubt if women in particular are worth it in the first place. I came on here to get out of that previous women-dispising mentality that the redpill got me into, but this is one of the things thats been plaguing the back of my mind ever since i left the redpill. oh, and you have a good weekend too
/r/ExRedPill11/09/20 02:59 AM
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okay, i mean thats all interesting but it doesnt really answer my question about if dating follows an 80/20 rule. i mean, do 80% of women really go exclusively for 20% of men? is sex for males a metaphorical feast for a few and famine for the rest? i would like evidience that either debunks or proves it, whichever is more accurate.
/r/ExRedPill11/09/20 02:55 AM
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Mhh, i didnt know about its connection to statistics. but i think that redpillers get the 80/20 rule from studies done on popular dating websites that show that a majority of women (80%) are only attracted to the top, most attractive men (20%). some red pillers have even claimed that its becoming more accurately the 90/10 or 95/5 or 99/1 rule with how widespread online dating is and how unrestricted hypergamy is. but good point in saying that its odd psychologists dont point out that rule.
/r/ExRedPill11/09/20 02:42 AM
3

Mhh, thanks for your insights. you didnt really tackle the 80/20 rule that much though, if you could perhaps expand on that and debunk it further that would be appreciated.
/r/ExRedPill11/09/20 01:40 AM
1

good points
/r/ExRedPill10/09/20 11:21 PM
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Mhh, i didnt think about it that way. its certainly is a different way of looking at things. And im pretty young too, to be fair, which is why im asking for opinions/advice about this topic, hopefully i'll get it from people who are a lot more experienced and wise than I.
/r/ExRedPill10/09/20 10:43 PM
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I totally agree with what you say. i too have seen from personal experiences and from things ive heard around online that people do tend to date in their ballpark. the Redpill is more of an 'easy way out' when it comes to dating rather than the more productive but harder path of geniune self improvements and setting reasonable standards.
/r/ExRedPill10/09/20 01:59 PM
1

i wasnt trying to classify people myself, i was just presenting one of the redpill ideas i've had trouble myself disproving, and trying to see if anyone else had the knowledge to debunk it.
/r/ExRedPill10/09/20 12:49 PM
1

i didnt think about it that way, thanks for your insights
/r/ExRedPill10/09/20 12:47 PM
2

I'll certainly look into that, thanks
/r/ExRedPill10/09/20 12:45 PM
1

Oh, thanks for the articles you provided. it helps debunk this idea
/r/ExRedPill10/09/20 02:43 AM
3

Thanks for your insight, im only 18 and honestly have not had much experience with drama. i appreciate your insight and you sharing your experience.
/r/ExRedPill10/09/20 01:38 AM
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I'll certainly keep that in mind, thanks a bunch
/r/ExRedPill10/09/20 01:11 AM
5

mhh, i didnt think about it like that. good point
/r/ExRedPill10/09/20 12:52 AM
1

ah, didnt notice. no worries.
/r/ExRedPill10/09/20 12:41 AM
1

Mhh, perhaps you should make a post of your own asking about the moral nature of women on here, maybe you could get some good answers. i would certainly like some answers to those questions as well. Edit: already made a post adressing that question of women's supposid chaotic nature, so no need to worry about doing it yourself.
/r/ExRedPill10/09/20 12:23 AM
1

Thanks for your imput. i do have a very good family, so they must be telling the truth, i for a time just thought they were complementing me because they cared about me, and not because i actually look good. i'll certainly look into love languages, ive heard of it but never looked into it. Thanks for the advice on all the other questions, they were just things that i have been thinking about and have remained in the back of my mind since leaving redpill, i just wanted some clearification on some…
/r/ExRedPill10/09/20 12:20 AM
1

Thanks, will do
/r/ExRedPill10/09/20 12:12 AM
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I have seen some instances of both female supremacists speaking out both online and acting in the real world. during my time down the redpill rabbithole (which i luckily got out of) i watched a lot of videos about bordline abusive and misandrist women. a lot of that was from the youtube channel "think before you sleep" As for a way of separating Feminists from female supremacists, it comes down to who wants to work with men to build a better society, or who wants to tear down men for the sake of…
/r/ExRedPill10/09/20 12:12 AM
1

I have looked at some of the info on the repill detox kit. I made this post to get some other answers/opinions to personal questions that the content on there did not satisfy. But thanks nonetheless, perhaps i should delve deeper into the information on there.
/r/ExRedPill09/09/20 10:51 PM
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mainstream feminism has taken a pretty strong hold in the western world, and from what i experienced its more about tearing down men and normalizing misandry than it is for empowering women. in fact, i think it would be more accurate to label certein feminists as "female supremecists". Im not agaisnt equality, but mainstream feminism seems to only care about women's issues, while bashing and neglecting men
/r/ExRedPill09/09/20 10:47 PM
1

Thanks, youre right. from what ive seen my reletives often times do have loving relationships. a prime example is my parents, both of them are great people, and from what i can tell have a wonderful relationship. both of my siblings are also in relationships with good people too. Thanks a bunch!
/r/ExRedPill09/09/20 08:16 PM
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I greatly appreciate your insights, and my family is full of great people so im sure that theyre being truthful. honestly i just want to have a relationship with someone i can trust and be myself around, man or woman. The redpill has made me thought that such a relationship with women in particular is very rare or impossible. i havent had much experience in dating, so i guess i just have to get out there and see what i can do. I think the main thing that im scared of is that i can sometimes be t…
/r/ExRedPill09/09/20 06:38 PM
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Okay, thanks a bunch for your insight
/r/ExRedPill09/09/20 06:31 PM
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