Bleedover

RoseAvara · 2021-03-01T22:22:42+00:00

This is to be expected. the ideologies of the Red Pill are by nature misogynistic and right-wing. I myself was drawn into inceldom and the alt-right for a while as a result of my redpill indoctrination. Luckily I was able to get out of that ideological pit, but i know that many others can fall into it.

rainbowbarfff · 2021-03-01T22:30:54+00:00

Bigoted behavior and ideology beget other forms of bigoted behavior and ideology. I'm forever floored at people who clutch their pearls at the realization that the same level of deluded thinking that makes a person believe women are second-class citizens also allows them to exercise that same rationale on other groups of people.

username_6916 · 2021-03-01T22:06:54+00:00

I think this boils down to "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." The Red Pill and broader Manosphere folks are the enemy of misadratic woke leftists. So are the neo-Nazi folks. I can see the temptation, much as social democrats are willing to tolerate bigotry and racism in the name of bolstering their appeal to the woke crowd.

The answer to this is that just as "Liberals get the bullet too", "Conservatives get the bullet too". The deal with the devil always has its costs. In this case they're not worth the price of admission. Sometimes the enemy of my enemy is still just another enemy.

Soft-Neat8117 · 2021-03-01T22:45:13+00:00

Racism, sexism and homophobia usually go hand-in-hand. I live in the Southeast, so I've met my share of bigots.

My inability to agree with the right on social issues (I do agree with their economic views, though) is a large part og why I left the red pill.

atman714 · 2021-03-02T01:52:17+00:00

Yes. One thing I've said before is: "Not all RedPill men are Alt-Right, but all Alt-Right men are Redpilled." Every single guy that I've met who identifies as a white nationalist, fascist, or Alt-right, without exception, also has extremely RedPilled views on dating and women. Sometimes it's borderline blackpilled, believing that unless women are subjugated and forced into monogamy, they will "run wild" and cheat on every single man. I think both groups have alot of similarities, and they both seem to function as a rabbit hole. No one wakes up one day and says "I'm a white nationalist now." Its very slow process, just like redpill.

BajaBlast90 · 2021-03-02T15:30:47+00:00

I was just about to make a post on this. Red-pill/the manosphere is a starting point into the alt-right/Nazi pipeline.

The racism/anit-semetism/bigotry is nothing new. The MGTOW sub became a cesspool for hating black women, LGBTQ, and Jews. The redpill forums have always been populated by racists and the alt-right.

Peep this article from last year about a lieutenant of the US Coast Guard who got prosecuted for researching bomb-making manuals, sniper attacks, “killing school,” firearms and tactical gear, and incels, and downloaded the manifestos of far-right terrorists.

The search history also reveals Hasson’s deep familiarity with the conspiracies, memes, and ideas driving the modern, global far right. For example, his most frequently visited website was the subreddit “Men Going Their Own Way” (MGTOW), an online misogynistic hub, which he visited “tens of thousands of times” between 2017 and 2019, according to a 120-page report from the Department of Homeland Security’s “Insider Threat Division.”

Source: https://www.vice.com/en/article/939kmv/us-coast-guard-officer-facing-gun-charges-researched-how-to-rid-us-of-the-jews-court-docs-reveal

By the way, the MGTOW community STILL has not addressed the issue with former US Coast Guard lieutenant Christopher Hasson and his prosecution. I suspect that their silence = they are apoligists and endorse his behavior.

ErrythingPhroze · 2021-03-01T21:51:37+00:00

There's another post in this sub with a guy detailing being radicalized into Neo-Nazi beliefs and it started with red pill. I notice it all the time in the comments of random youtube videos.

Half-Ice-Half-Fire · 2021-03-01T22:51:44+00:00

Haha. I call it brown pill where everything seems to be BS. That's when it's time to put away the pills when it socially immobilizes you.

Sure to each their own if you feel like you need to stay "red pill" for a while. A little anything can be healthy if for nothing other than perspective.

But when you begin dehumanizing people that is crossing a line where you're becoming the very thing you're claiming moral superiority to. It's one thing to have an opinion and healthy boundaries but another to cage others in.

KurkTheMagnificent · 2021-03-02T02:51:01+00:00

“The dark side will devour those who lack the power to control it. It’s a fierce storm of emotion that annihilates anything in its path. It lays waste to the weak and unworthy. But those who are strong can ride the storm winds to unfathomable heights. They can unlock their true potential; they can sever the chains that bind them; they can dominate the world around them. Only those with the power to control the dark side can ever truly be free.”
–Darth Bane

yomimaru · 2021-03-02T14:15:33+00:00

That's because these two ideologies click perfectly. If women as purely emotional beings cannot be trusted to make rational decisions, they need to be governed by men, and if such women are given voting rights, workplace opportunities and other kinds of independence, this should only be possible because of a huge conspiracy against traditional Western society. A full-blown Nazism is just one step away from this.

TC-Wheeler · 2021-03-02T17:08:21+00:00

I guess A lot of Altrighters will use Red pill stuff bc they’re all about being extreme conservative including gender roles. But that’s not all of them bc some RP creators include AMS, Darius M, LivingALifeOfAbundance, etc there’s a lot of non white people and even moderate to left leaning who are in the red pill communities

cvntcvntcvnt · 2021-03-02T20:30:29+00:00

Yeah it's an interesting phenomenon. Seems to me that psychologically, movements like TRP, Nazism, etc are very similar in that they are belief systems based around weakness. Starving populations are prone to fascism, and I guess lonely men (lot of them boys) starving from lack of connection are prone to TRP???

Something like that.

Zyzzulu · 2021-03-01T23:02:28+00:00

I believed COVID wasn't real for a while/ a hoax.

"99% percent survival rate", etc etc.

Maximum-Biscotti-247 · 2021-03-02T08:02:21+00:00

There is only racism in the mgtow community that I know. of. Hammerhand is a full blown white nationalist pretending to be problack.

drakos500 · 2021-03-02T13:22:54+00:00

Facts: several red pillers being racist doesn't mean redpill is racist ideology Tho.. jesus fcking christ

Title	Bleedover
Author	Zyzzulu
Upvotes	24
Comments	28
Date	March 1, 2021 9:13 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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