Modern Women

RoseAvara · 2020-09-13T17:18:05+00:00

Well do you see a lot of redpillers and MGTOW men seem happy? Or do you see them whining about women 24/7 on the Internet? If they’re truly happy without women, why do I see the latter a lot more online? 🤔

zoemondo · 2020-09-13T18:19:36+00:00

Read between the lines.

These guys are basically complaining that they can't get a girlfriend or wife in today's society. Meaning: if they lived in a different culture or time period where women had no choice but to marry and pop out kids, then it would be easier for these guys to get laid and not be lonely. That is fucked up.

If these redpill guys really were such great guys, then girls would be choosing to date them and stay with them.

Women can make their own choices now, including if they want a partner and kids. Sorry not sorry for pointing it out.

CitrusyDeodorant · 2020-09-13T18:24:06+00:00

I mean... if you can't tell that it's obviously bullshit, I'm not sure what to say. It's much easier to feel powerful when your wife can't vote, open her own bank account without your permission or work a proper job, it only makes sense that maladjusted men would want those times back.

yomimaru · 2020-09-13T17:54:28+00:00

Let me put it this way: modern Western women have been dramatically changed by our society, same as Western men. We don't rely on having 5-6 kids anymore, we rarely live among our extended family, we have child welfare survices and the pill, we require women to participate in the workforce along with men which all undermines traditional gender roles. One might argue that things like having less babies and increase in single-person households damage Western societies now (or will damage them in the long run), but (1) there's nothing you can realistically do to prevent that impacting your life except maybe moving to some Sharia-ruled country and (2) as much mental health issues we see these days, people still tend to live longer, happier and just more enjoyable lives now than, say, 200 years ago, and this includes men who can divorce today, be openly gay, have multiple partners in case of polyamorous relationships etc etc. Idyllic portrayals of traditional societies are nice to read, but believe me as someone who studied the history of medicine, life back then was nasty and often short.

RedPillDetox · 2020-09-13T18:45:21+00:00

There's good people, there's bad people, most people lay somewhere between the 2.

UnlimitedExtraLives · 2020-09-13T20:28:23+00:00

if you don't deal with them

What, do you have a time machine? Anyone alive is "modern". Every generation has this asinine standard for when society "ruined" people dating all the way back at least to Plato and Socrates saying it.

You can either try to understand what people are doing and why they're doing it or you can let the reality of other people's lives become so alien to you that you reject it like antibodies rejecting a virus. If you do that you are rejecting the human condition of being social animals. You don't have to like everyone but you do have to try to understand them. If you cross your arms and say "society is RUINED" all you're doing is drawing contrast with yourself and everyone else to sate your ego.

If we're continuing the antibody analogy, this idea, widespread enough, is equivalent to cancer. A malignant, self serving mass that is both part of and against the rest of the body.

medlabunicorn · 2020-09-13T22:57:36+00:00

I’m quite happy to be left alone by the type of person who thinks that my humanity is ruining the world.

atman714 · 2020-09-14T00:53:33+00:00

What they mean is, they don't like that women can now freely choose who they want to end up with and who to have sex with. The scariest type of sex women can have is sex that's not with you...lol. Due to advances in birth control and equal rights laws, women aren't as restricted anymore. Basically all it boils down to.

i_am_a_virgin_fan · 2020-09-14T01:13:33+00:00

I think it’s good to learn about what modern women are about so you can navigate with them to have successful relationships with them.

Use the red pill for good!

Comfortable_Intern57 · 2020-09-14T02:02:38+00:00

Idk. I grew up in an abusive, religious home. My stepfather beat the shit out of me for no reason all the time. My submissive mother turned a blind eye to it. I have been terrified of being dependant on a man because of my upbringing. I am a single woman with my own house, yet I still managed to end up in an abusive relationship. But the difference was, I wasn't dependant and I was able to get him out of my house eventually. I lived in fear for several years that he would come and kill me like he said. This is why we "modern" women have to be "independent".

chofferblower · 2020-09-14T03:24:10+00:00

Hey man, I noticed that you asked a lot of specific questions along the past few weeks. There’s nothing wrong in that obviously, but I think it highlights a bigger question than the one you’re overtly asking.

If you even remotely like reading, I suggest you read the book Sapiens : A brief history of humankind by Yuval Noah Harari. It’s a scientific introductory book intersecting evolutionary theory and social studies while actually being approachable by someone who never studied anything of the sort. I think that it does not only contain answers to many questions you have, but also the tools necessary for you to answer them by yourself in the future.

As an answer to your question, I think it’s ultimately a matter of personal opinion as this talks about women being « ruined ». There is actually a cultural shift in the way woman see and are able to express themselves in our society. Whether it’s for the better or the worse is for you decide for yourself. I think it’s for the better, as I think gendered roles got too restrictive and I’m glad they’re going away, but that’s just my opinion. Oppressing a population doesn’t make said population less harmful, it just forces them to be more creative with their harmfulness. I think what we see on some places of the internet such as FDS or Twitter is a transitional phenomenon, where shitty bitter people who didn’t have a common narrative to unite now have one, and are blissfully using it. Most women I know are actually kind and caring and, believe it or not, especially feminists.

My advice for you would be three folds.

1) don’t try dating through dating apps, those things are a mental health sink even if you are attractive, so for more reason than one, I suggest you steer away from them.

2) try meeting your local moderate feminists group at your university. See the thing for yourself. Of course be mindful, know that they probably won’t let you go easy if you behave shitty, which is only fair. Also remember when interacting with same age girls that those kiddos are probably as scared and clueless as you are, and that you can just walk away anytime.

3) might be a bit controversial but if you’re a virgin, I suggest you hire an escort to initiate you to heterosexual intimacy. This way you’ll be able to get a glimpse of what the deal is, how it makes you feel, and if it’s worth pursuing or not. I personally like heterosexual sexe, tbh, but really not as much as I though when I was a virgin, and I can easily go without it for long periods of time if I have something else on my mind.

There, let’s start with that ! Tell me what you thought about the book :)

ProfessionalGuide528 · 2020-09-14T15:42:44+00:00

The modern woman is more self entitled than the male counterpart. There are exceptions but for the most part women are getting so much attention that you cant really expect even a 5 out of 10 girl to stick around for too long.

Whether or not a man is red pill or blue pill, he needs to understand that she will never be his and he needs to enjoy what he is given. He just needs to enjoy the moment. His life needs to be his focus, not other people.

thegreatone998 · 2020-09-13T19:18:46+00:00

I think there are a lot of good women out there but I think it depends on the environment your surrounded in. If your live in a major city the chances are you are going to meet up with a lot of shitty women because most women from the city have terrible mindsets and do nothing to fix themselves. If you live in a small town you will probably meet a good woman because there is not a lot of options around.

Title	Modern Women
Author	RoseAvara
Upvotes	1
Comments	52
Date	September 13, 2020 5:11 PM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/ExRedPill
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