High Standards.

xvszero · 2020-09-19T18:15:00+00:00

It's nonsense. Talk to real life people. Most of them get dates, regardless. Many have relationships. Some do much better than others, of course, but that's always been the case.

I'm a tall skinny dork and a Catholic school teacher which is essentially one of the lowest paid degree jobs that exists and I still did fine. Married now. My wife is skinny too, though that isn't particularly relevant.

Good times.

infinitymouse · 2020-09-19T18:21:47+00:00

I think RP claim this about women’s standards because so few of them actually know many normal women. Most of the women I know are just amazed if he’s employed, more or less looks after his health, and isn’t a philandering asshole. I wouldn’t know what to do with a man who willingly-dare I say voluntarily-participated in housework. They’re that rare. Are those standards too high?

And of course, it goes both ways. Most women in the west feel like the standards applied to them are impossible and often contradictory. There seems to be agreement across the board that she must be photoshop-gorgeous, effortlessly slim, and forever young, but beyond that? Some say a career is good, others say being “too” ambitious drives men away. Education is good until “men don’t really care about that.” Meanwhile there’s still a LOT of hostility for those that elect to be SAHM’s, and given how dependent that makes you I would personally be afraid to be one. When he cheats or bails and you have no education or work experience, you’re all kinds of fucked. To say nothing of how dreadful that day-to-day sounds.

thetruthishere_ · 2020-09-19T18:51:07+00:00

Do you people ever look outside when this is brought up?

Do you not see average everyday people out there in relationships? I see them everywhere I go...

zoemondo · 2020-09-19T18:43:57+00:00

Among all of my female friends, none of them have standards that go way beyond what they can offer themselves. One of them wanted a really buff and fit guy, but she was also in shape herself. All of my nerdy and average friends date other nerdy and average people.

The only girl I knew who had unrealistic standards was mentally ill and raised by very toxic parents.

Remember that these redpill guys have barely met any women themselves. These redpill and blackpill guys have unrealistic standards themselves. It's totally fine that you are continuing to ask these questions. But generally for every answer, a contradiction within TRP is revealed. See a pattern yet?

BajaBlast90 · 2020-09-19T19:47:16+00:00

I think the problem with these assumptions is that they generalize an entire group of people. Unless you've personally met every female in the west, then there is no reason to believe they all think like this. There are definitely women out there who have sky high standards who are also lacking in quality. There are also women with reasonable standards who more often than not, find what they're looking for.

Redpill loves to fixate on women who have crazy standards because it's a projection of their own insecurities. Most of them probably aren't in the top percentile of men and would never make the cut. No one likes feeling inferior. Some of them are also fed up with online dating and have really crappy luck with swipes and matches.

Swordfish1762 · 2020-09-20T10:05:29+00:00

RP's themselves are male versions of what they hate in women. Some of them are good looking and can get the "hot" women. However, for the most part they are guys who rank low on the Sexual Market Value scale, yet they continue to go after the "hot" women and get rejected. They are obsessed with the thought that they are settling for anyone other than the hottest women.

If a guy is a 5/10 and hunting 9/10's, what does he think will happen?

DarkestTimeline24 · 2020-09-19T19:42:52+00:00

Lol yeah. Pretty easy to see if you go outside and pay attention to other people...

RedPillDetox · 2020-09-19T18:42:30+00:00

you have to be considerably tall, handsome, rich, fit, etc in order to even stand a slim chance of getting a girlfriend, and even if you can get one, it'll probably be a 'land whale' or something like that. you have to be at least a 7/10 to get any dates and have any sex life.

Takes a retard to believe that. At this point they don't even try to mask the fact that they don't get out of the house lol. Any trip to the nearest restaurant area/parks/malls shows all sort of couples in there lol.

OhDatBoi1273 · 2020-09-20T07:43:04+00:00

They are shallow people who date shallow people and then overgeneralize to feel better. They manipulate and lie to get sex and then say women are stupid and leave them for nothing.

Comfortable_Intern57 · 2020-09-19T18:34:33+00:00

Well I live in the US and am a woman and can honestly tell you that our standards are not that high. Men's standards are equally as high or higher if you ask me. I can't begin to tell you how often men way overrate themselves as far as appearances go. In high school, I could not get a boyfriend because all the guys wanted super skinny chearleaders and I was in ROTC and about 10 pounds overweight.

Standards have changed a little and now more men are accepting of a few extra pounds. That was simply not the case back in my day. You were either 20 lbs underweight or you had no boyfriend. It was one of the reasons I started dating older men. The men in my generation's standards are unhealthy.

Also there are just as many land whale men as there are women and for a long time there were more obese men than women. Growing up we were pretty brainwashed by all the tv shows that showed hot, skinny wives with fat, dumpy husbands and unfortunately both men and women of my time internalized that shit.

Inareskai · 2020-09-19T22:33:48+00:00

Look just assume that most things incels say, especially about women, is false. It will save you a lot of time and energy instead of asking what is essentially the same question all the time.

If they say all women are a certain way, that's clearly false, women are not one group that acts in the same way.
They want to make women look bad so they can feel better about themselves.
When someone points out that observing the real world easily debunks their claims their response is to move the goal posts. They say women don't date 'ugly' men, so when they see it happen they have to make new assumptions about why they would be. Instead of accepting that their original claim was wrong. Do we know that they're happy couples? No, we don't know that they're unhappy either though. Looking for proof that everyone is happy is a fools errand. The point is they exist, are fairly common, and many last a long time/a lifetime. Which goes against trp talking points.

Simple. Assume they're wrong because their agenda is to be angry with women because they struggle to get with them. Why believe anything someone so obviously biased claims about a group they dislike?

Coollogin · 2020-09-19T20:08:21+00:00

Everywhere I go, I see short dudes with women, ugly dudes with women, toothless dudes with women, fat dudes with women. Clearly not all women have high standards for physical attractiveness.

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SovietSpetsnaz · 2020-09-19T17:45:30+00:00

We’ve already debunked the 80/20 bullshit. And it is true, most women with high standards are hypocrites and bring nothing to the table lol

imhereforthemeta · 2020-09-19T20:26:30+00:00

Have these people ever just hung out at a shopping center and looked at the couples? Its usually a pretty hot girl and a scruffy looking dude every time lol.

Adadum · 2020-09-20T01:46:17+00:00

Most women that have high standards are because they were spoiled or they purposely boost their standards to give themselves an excuse to reject a guy out of insecurity.

mauvebirdie · 2020-09-22T08:45:01+00:00

The thing that shows how delusional this belief is to simply look at what most men in relationships around the world look like. They're not all tall, rich, fit supermodels. Most of them aren't. But when you have a warped perspective, you just look for a confirmation bias and ignore all the evidence that says your premise is wrong.

Red pillers are just made that women are allowed to have standards just like men are. Sure, those standards can be hypocritical if you're desperate to date a supermodel yet look nothing like one yourself. I've personally never met a couple where the guy was better looking than the woman - never. Yet I see women with men at their level or lower all the time.

Metrorexz · 2020-09-22T18:14:33+00:00

Here's an article where a women openly bashed broke men https://www.ebony.com/love-relationships/dating-standards-relationships-money/?amp

Also The "Real Man" card is pulled every time to programme men to always serve women. Mostly by Feminazis

mcmwhite · 2020-09-19T19:26:47+00:00

If you're going by stats from dating apps such as Tinder, then you have a point. Women rated 80% of men on these sites as "below average in looks", which is absurd.

You could argue that Tinder does not represent the average woman.

babyskin21 · 2020-09-20T02:37:19+00:00

You must always look at the mothers and fathers who raise girls to be this way. Men who are weak/passive about their daughters behavior, and women with the toxic feminine attitude of claiming they can do anything and everything without a man. That’s why it’s important for those women to look for strong men because weak men will not “check” their woman’s behavior resulting in foul children. Hope this can spread.

So basically, weak men don’t deserve a good woman if they aren’t strong enough to put them in their place. It all makes sense if you think of it

Title	High Standards.
Author	RoseAvara
Upvotes	10
Comments	107
Date	September 19, 2020 5:35 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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