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It's a discussion you can't really have in most circles these days, so its almost therapeutic to be able to do so. There is a danger of becoming bitter or resentful, and I don't hate women of course. All those chores you mention - I don't think they're particularly dangerous or require that much strength. I think every adult who is able should be able to do certain things, male or female. Also don't get why say throwing out the garbage is the male job by default, unless if it is super heavy. Yes…
/r/MensRights04/11/25 01:31 AM
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Are you saying that's a current or new belief, or also historical? Because it seems in Victorian literature there was more emphasis on female character, even if they were objectified for their beauty, which is lacking today. Yet men are still judged on that.
/r/MensRights04/11/25 01:25 AM
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Stand up for their rights? Take no shit from their man? Earn as much as men?
/r/MensRights04/11/25 01:23 AM
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I have no issue with women working in different fields of course, but I think anything overly male or female dominated can be bad.
/r/MensRights04/11/25 01:22 AM
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That's a good point that is often overlooked. Patriarchy might on the surface seem to only benefit men, but sometimes it apparently benefits women. Lifeboats on the Titanic comes to mind.
/r/MensRights04/11/25 01:20 AM
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Yeah I acknowledge women do have a ton of pressures, of course. It does feel a lot of it is due to appearance etc, which isnt cool, though some is related to how they should act etc. I suppose in the past there was a lot of pressure for them to act a certain way.
/r/MensRights04/11/25 01:19 AM
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I mean, I wouldn't mind that rhetoric if the same applied to women. Why would a man try to be some traditional strong man if the typical Gen Z woman doesnt want to be the traditional woman? I'm not even that big on traditionalism, but I realise the value of certain traditions and norms. I just want to see consistency.
/r/MensRights03/11/25 03:58 PM
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I've noticed many of these people appealing to men or men's rights are in effect actually reinforcing this. Like right wingers or 'conservatives' basically emphasising how men need to sacrifice for their women and be cannon fodder for their nation. I don't see much 'how about everyone try to be better' from ideologues on either side.
/r/MensRights03/11/25 03:56 PM
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I dont think it's good on a societal level, and personally am not that into continuous casual sex with people I don't have a connection with. I think it's more the inequalities of dating than hookup culture per se though that's a bigger issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 01:28 AM
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I think tech has facilitated/encouraged that a lot more. Made us even more shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 12:58 AM
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I mean, my best friend is female and I'd say half of my friends are. They're mostly on the autism spectrum/neurodivergent and have mostly male friends themselves, so I feel there's a link there. I feel many women aren't tolerant of difference in their friend group (men too, but I feel they social police less). Like some women are outwardly friendly/welcoming but secretly really judge you.
/r/MensRights27/09/23 02:55 AM
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Have you asked every woman you've met? Many claim theyre totally straight and have never done anything with women or desire to. Sure, some aren't being totally honest, but I'll give anyone the benefit of the doubt until I have reason not to. Also don't discount the influence of society and culture. There are/have been cultures where most or all men were bi. Its just currently its more accepted or encouraged among women. I also think female sexuality may be somewhat different to male in general. …
/r/MensRights14/04/23 05:08 PM
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Not just Dail Mail, many have reported on this. Still there's gotta be a heck of a lot of women in their 20s with men in their 30s for this to make sense. I don't think the other reasons account for that much.
/r/MensRights06/03/23 09:23 AM
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I seem to attract those like me I guess, not the most successful at relationships.
/r/MensRights27/02/23 12:16 AM
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Almost all of my friends, male and female, are single.
/r/MensRights26/02/23 04:19 AM
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That's part of it, but I mean...I wonder how much reducing the supply of available men will change things. I heard one stat that claimed 25% of young black women now identify as bisexual. One explanation given was the shortage of black men. In nature homosexuality in either sex does often increase where there's a relative shortage of the opposite sex.
/r/MensRights16/02/23 12:57 AM
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That's part of it. Like it is a bandwagon/seen as cool or even the right thing to do for some (not all of course). Like they might be straight/mostly straight and play that up. It does sometimes go together with anti male rhetoric too. Likewise the huge surge in girls transitioning, or ahem, AFAB transmen. Don't tell me its not at least partly a trend. Teenage girls in particular seem susceptible to peer pressure.
/r/MensRights16/02/23 12:55 AM
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Yeah I feel many go to evolutionary explanations for things that culture mostly explains.
/r/MensRights15/02/23 02:44 PM
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Would you say a woman's intrinsic importance is based on childbirth, though? Or on attractiveness to males?
/r/MensRights15/02/23 02:08 PM
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I feel the over sexualisation of women by men is also backfiring on men, with the huge increase in women especially identifying as LGBT+. Ask many hetero women and they'll say women are just more beautiful, sexy, they'd rather be with an attractive woman than average man. I've said it before, but more women will leave men for women (the demonisation of men plus glorification and sexualisation of women, less impetus to have a family, resources etc) and make it even harder to find women. Apparentl…
/r/MensRights15/02/23 02:06 PM
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I feel the over sexualisation of women by men is also backfiring on men, with the huge increase in women especially identifying as LGBT+. Ask many hetero women and they'll say women are just more beautiful, sexy, they'd rather be with an attractive woman than average man. I've said it before, but more women will leave men for women (the demonisation of men plus glorification and sexualisation of women, less impetus to have a family, resources etc) and make it even harder to find women. Apparentl…
/r/MensRights15/02/23 02:06 PM
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What are your thoughts on the idea that because men like two women together, they are naturally more bisexual? Like cos of co parenting, to entice men, whatever.
/r/MensRights15/02/23 02:02 PM
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Dunno if you're aware of the studies saying women's arousal is less 'category specific' too. Wonder if that's related. I do wonder if women would appreciate men more if they weren't on the pill. It's hard to determine now as many women have been psychologically influenced by the pill for so long...plus the sexualisation of women in culture plays a role.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 01:42 AM
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I wonder if the prevalence of BC has led to a rise in bisexuality in women?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 12:42 AM
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In what way? I did read one reddit user say going off birth control made her more interested in men visually. Maybe that's part of it?
/r/MensRights10/02/23 12:02 AM
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Yeah that's why I try not to get too caught up. Some might accuse me of sitting on the fence, but for me it's about trying to respect everyone and actually pursuing fairness and equality. I agree nowadays the rhetoric is mostly anti male, but to do what the radical bigoted self labelled feminists do makes you the same as them. There are a lot of really jaded and bitter people out there who latch on to an ideology that accords with their grievances.
/r/MensRights09/02/23 11:55 PM
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Not being so thirsty and desperate might go some way to increasing their value, cos atm its at an all time low. Even raise the subject of the devaluation of men and women get angry and defensive.
/r/MensRights09/02/23 11:34 AM
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'Lesbian' is the most popular porn category for women in most western countries. A lot of women say it focuses more on female pleasure, hetero porn is rough, misogynistic, more about male pleasure. Plus the fetishization of lesbianism began in the West in the 90s but really 70s with porn (think the film series Emanuelle if you're aware of it). Then many researchers point to biological/evolutionary explanations while ignoring the huge socio-cultural factors. Even in the US male bisexuality exceed…
/r/MensRights09/02/23 11:34 AM
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I can appreciate it, certainly, but I'm generally aroused/romantically attracted by women.
/r/MensRights09/02/23 06:02 AM
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In some cases it was the norm for most or all men in a community to engage in homo as well as heterosexual behaviour.
/r/MensRights09/02/23 05:59 AM
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Commoner than female, but in some cases commoner than male heterosexuality. Pure homosexuality is actually a lot rarer than male or female bisexuality.
/r/MensRights09/02/23 05:19 AM
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Do you think our society/media has sexualised women to the point it makes them more bisexual?
/r/MensRights09/02/23 04:44 AM
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So they keep telling us, but I feel a lot of it is culture. Maybe in some ways, but men's is a lot more fluid than allowed. In most cultures male bisexuality seems commoner.
/r/MensRights09/02/23 04:43 AM
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I know just as many immature women, tbh. It's just usually judged less, tbh. You also don't hear people say 'be a woman.' I have also thought that since men never give birth etc in a way they never reach a certain level as women (shoot me if you will).
/r/MensRights09/02/23 12:38 AM
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Apparently they gazed longer at the more attractive male models. I think most people will naturally look more at whats attractive regardless of orientation/attraction. Doesn't mean they want to sleep with them. I think many women are more comfortable rating other women as attractive/sexy too.
/r/MensRights09/02/23 12:36 AM
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Wow
/r/MensRights09/02/23 12:29 AM
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Was she like this in general or mostly to you? Like did she hide it?
/r/MensRights09/02/23 12:25 AM
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Yeah I figured most women are like that - maybe most are - and was a little shocked to hear all these stories. Surely it's a minority nowadays anyway.
/r/MensRights08/02/23 11:38 PM
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I mean it sounds like something a socio/psychopath would say. What was she like otherwise?
/r/MensRights08/02/23 11:36 PM
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Wtf, I'd be shocked if a man responded like that, even a stranger, let alone ones ex.
/r/MensRights08/02/23 11:35 PM
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Makes sense. How someone wants to be percieved and how they are is often different.
/r/MensRights08/02/23 08:49 AM
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We're all emotional and rational beings. The idea that men are one and women the other is such bullshit. I think it's one area MRA etc and feminists need to unite on imo.
/r/MensRights07/02/23 11:45 PM
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I do think plenty are genuinely supportive, but yeah some still pretend to care cos its the PC thing to say but secretly hold these bs views and attitudes.
/r/MensRights07/02/23 11:38 PM
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Wtf. More women need to be called out on their lack of empathy.
/r/MensRights07/02/23 11:36 PM
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Yeah part of it is cos we're told not to trust men, we can't approach them etc, and tbf some men don't make it easy either.
/r/MensRights07/02/23 11:36 PM
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Yet if it's a feminist sub I expected more men insisting how women have only been supportive etc.
/r/MensRights07/02/23 11:35 PM
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I sure hope you're not in a small minority. It's weird these responses don't seem to accord with what I perceive, unless a lot of these women aren't being honest. If someone left me cos I cried (and if I cry I'm really feeling it) I wouldn't want them in the first place. Like it'd show me a lack of empathy, regardless of gender roles. Wonder what your friend would think if a man left a woman for crying.
/r/MensRights07/02/23 11:34 PM
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Ugh, like where's your empathy, do you have to make everything an opportunity to make a political point? (Not you your wife, no offence to her I'm sure she is great in many ways).
/r/MensRights07/02/23 11:32 PM
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Yeah I suspect it's a lot to do with the circles you're in. I can't imagine anyone I'm close with doing this but then again I've never tested it..
/r/MensRights07/02/23 11:30 PM
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Yet ironically, being able to cry if you need to shows confidence, that you don't care about being judged about being authentic.
/r/MensRights07/02/23 11:30 PM
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Wow yeah, I can't imagine anyone I know acting like that, but I can imagine some I see. They probably go for muscly guys with lots of tatts who always wear singlets, lol jk stereotyping.
/r/MensRights07/02/23 11:28 PM
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Yeah thats pretty common for men and women.
/r/MensRights02/02/23 04:13 AM
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I have done, did have two short term relationships but its been years.
/r/MensRights15/01/23 02:08 AM
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Yeah i mean...I'm not saying its good per se, but it's nature and many feminists think if only women get along we'll all live in a happy matriarchal utopia, maybe like bobobos...
/r/MensRights13/01/23 04:52 PM
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I meet more single mothers personally.
/r/MensRights13/01/23 03:55 PM
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Yet ironically many seem very insecure about their appearance, but it really goes hand in hand. Ergo many will say women are objectively better looking, they notice women more, what are all these beautiful amazing women doing woth ugly men etc...
/r/MensRights13/01/23 03:15 PM
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So where are most women finding partners? It doesn't seem many meet irl as much anymore.
/r/MensRights13/01/23 09:38 AM
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I've heard those theories. Conversely in many polygynous species males have sex with males, esp if they don't have access to females. So if this is the case, it would go both ways, not only females being bi while men without wives just being abstinent, but males also doing it...but it seems this isnt really the main reason anyway. Homosexuality is most prevalent in bonobos which have a mixed system that isn't monogamous or polygamous.
/r/MensRights19/12/22 07:42 AM
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But if we assume the genders have a similar desire to find a partner that seems odd..unless men actually do have less of a desire. Wouldnt make sense for women to. Many of these women do want relationships not just sex too.
/r/MensRights19/12/22 07:39 AM
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I don't think you can generalise by gender like that, but it seems nowadays (maybe unlike the past), men are told they need to be with someone to be happy, whereas with womens its almost the opposite.
/r/MensRights19/12/22 07:37 AM
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I mostly want a relationship, romance etc. Sex would just be a bonus. And I think it's true of more men than many realise.
/r/MensRights19/12/22 07:04 AM

Yeah I mean there are good things about being single too, it doesnt mean your life has to be miserable. I do think its still a factor for how many are valued but not to the same extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:06 AM

Yeah I get that, but at the same time it seems society, including many feminists, are encouraging it in women but not men. In many ways it seems they want to flip a lot of traditional gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 02:50 AM

Yeah I mean, speaking in evolutionary terms, those who don't reproduce are genetic failures in a way, but that doesn't mean they're failures at life. That is after all what status is for on a biological level. Its interesting nowadays you have more women saying they don't want children too, which you'd think would go against natural instinct. Like more power to them, we have too many people, but...yeah just want on a tangent lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 02:37 AM
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Yeah exactly. Many women are into gay porn, so its not just men who like two members of the other sex together. I remember seeing a Greek painting of a mmf threesome conga line lol.
/r/MensRights19/12/22 01:50 AM
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Haha
/r/MensRights19/12/22 01:49 AM
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True. Of course female desire/lust can be unattached to that, but it plays more of a role than male.
/r/MensRights18/12/22 08:05 AM
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Well the Greeks are among the hairiest in the world, so obviously it didnt stop them celebrating the male form. I think the revulsion against body hair is a more modern thing anyway. Also remember women remove a lot of their body hair and many are naturally quite hairy. Statues were made with small penises not because they were feminine but because large penises were seen as animalistic. Finally body hair varies a lot by ethnicity. Many Asian and African men are less hairy than many European, Mi…
/r/MensRights18/12/22 05:35 AM
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I think feminists go too far blaming everything on the patriarchy, but I do think a certain type of patriarchal power structure does exist. If more MRAs recognised that they could I think rectify things.
/r/MensRights18/12/22 05:10 AM
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I know there are reasons why things are the way they are, but it'd be better if men and women were more equally sexualised.
/r/MensRights18/12/22 04:59 AM
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I do feel a lot of it was created by men - the patriarchy if you like. Like over sexualising women and under sexualising men has backfired as some women are more erotically interested in their own sex.
/r/MensRights18/12/22 04:58 AM
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It's depressing. It seems popular for many women to downplay how attracted they are to men nowadays.
/r/MensRights18/12/22 04:57 AM
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Like for instance for a lot of women they're more aroused by being the subject not the object. Like when they see a sexy woman they imagine BEING the woman not having sex with her. Whereas men in general tend to see her as an object. Generalising but from what many women say it seems to hold. Also despite what some claim, in general arousal for most men is more visual. At least when it comes to mere nudity vs sex acts.
/r/MensRights18/12/22 04:56 AM
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They're not objectively better or worse looking, but modern western culture acts as if that's the case. In the past and in other cultures male form has been celebrated, often more than the female, not just feminine men. Those were often statues so carving body hair wasnt always practical, and it was the norm to draw and paint males as hairless too.
/r/MensRights18/12/22 04:55 AM
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Yeah I honestly wonder if it was partly done on purpose. It seems there's a group of researchers who focused on proving all women were bi in some way while no men were. They did change their opinions publicly but still..
/r/MensRights18/12/22 04:52 AM
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I wouldn't say female genitalia is a work of art either.
/r/MensRights18/12/22 02:00 AM
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Dunno, we don't know what stimuli they used. Also the man was strolling while the woman was doing calisthenics which I found odd. Like not comparing like with like.
/r/MensRights18/12/22 01:45 AM
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I think if the study is any reflection of reality it says more about how fucked up society is. Like imagine if you told your wife or gf you found chimps sexier than she lol.
/r/MensRights18/12/22 01:26 AM
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I think many just see it as more inherently fair and just: I mean, in principle it might be, but not all seem to factor in the practicalities. I'm sort ot moderate-left myself. What I don't like is fake feminists/leftists who want to reap the rewards of patriarchal or capitalistic gender advantage.
/r/MensRights03/12/22 02:09 AM
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That's not true. Look at the data, women in Britain tended to vote for Conservative and men Labour until recently.
/r/MensRights03/12/22 02:08 AM
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Man America is weird. Not an issue in most of the world, where circumcision isn't the norm. I'm against involuntary circumcision (unless there's a real medical need). Glad I wasn't circumcised. But tough break, sorry to hear about your story.
/r/MensRights01/12/22 12:37 PM

What the fuck? What kind of guys have you been dating, like wtf is wrong with them? I wouldn't even think of acting like that. But yeah it's both strange and sort of sad if they're as you say. Not something I and I imagine most of my friends can relate to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 05:36 AM
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Not putting it down, I like it as much as the next straight man, but I guess I like being engaged with emotionally too, not that many women don't. I guess that's just how things are portrayed. I guess a watch and a hug aren't really comparable but I get what you mean. I'm not very materialistic but I do love thoughtful gifts.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 04:40 AM
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Yeah I don't feel I'm overly masculine, but not sure I'm overly feminine either. Maybe neutral/androgynous? I'm attracted to those sort of women/those who can be dominant so maybe that's part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 07:04 AM
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True some men might even feel emasculated by it. Not me though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 05:13 AM
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Ouch, yeah there is a lot of rhetoric, but hopefully there are many women who do show their love and appreciation..
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 05:12 AM
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Yeah I'd probably prefer those things but I'd certainly appreciate flowers. Likewise many women don't care much about flowers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 05:11 AM
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I do have a friend who'd do a lot of stereotypically 'male" romantic things for her bf.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 05:11 AM
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True for some men, not for me, I'd be very appreciative.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 05:10 AM
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I'm creative/artistic myself, and given the effort required, something like that would really touch me. But yeah, lucky you!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 05:10 AM
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I dont go crazy for flowers themselves (though they're pretty and all that, but they don't last long), but would be really touched by the gesture if I received any. Or any thoughtful gift. My main 'love language' is quality time so while gifts, words etc are nice, that's mostly what I appreciate most.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 01:35 AM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 04:18 AM
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Yeah it's good to keep that perspective regardless. Like if you're looking after 'the one' it doesn't matter whether you get 100 matches or 1 if they work out. The difference is with 100 you have a much higher chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 04:18 AM
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There's also the idea that relatively fewer women are open to casual sex than men. https://sexualalpha.com/frequency-of-sex-by-age/
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 04:16 AM
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You mean aside from single 'Chads?' I mean plenty of single men do have casual sex etc. The question is, are there more single women having sex than single men? Would like to see stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 04:13 AM
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I dunno, I did a very informal poll on reddit asking this question, and most preferred to settle for an average man of their own than be one of many of a hot guy. But yeah I'm sure some wouldn't mind, but most women want more attention etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 04:12 AM
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I know what you mean. As for female children, most still have long hair and boys have short. There are also behavioural/psychological associations and factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 04:09 AM
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Then why don't more put more effort into appearance etc? I feel if most women dressed more frumpily, didnt wear makeup etc, men would be pickier and they'd have to develop other qualities. Ironically in Jane Austen novels there's more about a woman's chatacter than now. It'd still be unequal but not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 04:07 AM
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Yep shopping is what it is. We're reduced to a few photos.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 01:47 AM
1

Standard anti male bullshit, really. Like that's her totally objective breakdown of attractiveness by gender...and most 'cute' girls struggle to find someone? Cute theory. I'm a hetero guy so notice/am personally more attracted to women, but can appreciate good looking men and don't think women are 'objectively' more attractive. Maybe cos of makeup and grooming they might present as such, but this video just perpetuates more casual misandry imo. I guess that's in right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 01:38 AM
1

If you take away makeup/grooming/fashion etc, like same hairstyle, clothes etc, would this still be the case?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 01:35 AM
4

Yeah we're just like rats in an experiment feeding from bottles of cocaine water. I admit I get a fleeting jolt of hope when I get a like or match, which almost invariably goes nowhere. Like constantly getting my hopes up. Like free market capitalism it's not sustainable though and will invariably collapse. Yeah me too. It's just the system, we all want to benefit. But long term it's not good for most women either, psychologically.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 01:23 AM
1

So where are they mostly finding men? Bars, clubs, through friends, school, work? I guess where they used to? But it seems harder than ever to meet someone irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 01:18 AM
29

Those men will sleep/have sex with her, but how many will date or marry be in a LTR with them? Unless we live in a world where everyone just has casual sex with no attachments. Society does seem less romantic that way. Maybe a free love utopia like those peaceful bonobos. Yeah the sexual market place has become as skewed as the capitalist free market. Full of illusions and lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 01:18 AM
2

Unless they want to be part of that rich attractive man's harem theyll have to settle, or remain alone. I think humans are at least partly if not predominantly monogamous, and most of us have internalised these ideas, they'll want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 01:15 AM
6

That overly fake is not my preference but...tbh many men can quite easily want to have sex with someone they're not even that attracted to. Esp on a romantic/emotional level.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 12:38 AM
7

Yeah redefining terms, it's just like the Newspeak of 1984 yet people either don't see it, or those who do are silenced/not speaking out.
/r/MensRights09/11/22 03:58 PM
8

The scary thing is they'll excuse all sorts of shit and justify it. Like they can justify anything. Year Zero in Cambodia...
/r/MensRights09/11/22 01:38 PM
5

Yeah it's still an individual act. If the individual is motivated by prejudice, it doesn't matter what the system thinks.
/r/MensRights09/11/22 01:28 PM
7

That is in itself subjective. I think everyone is a victim and perp in some way. Depends how you look at it.
/r/MensRights09/11/22 01:18 PM
3

As a hetero man who's into women it does bug me, it's all subjective due to a lot of other factors, but I kind of feel it's the bed men have made, glorifying and celebrating the female form/beauty to such a degree, while relatively ignoring the male. I cringe when I hear guys say 'how are women attracted to us men', and then complain they can't find anyone.
/r/MensRights09/11/22 12:32 PM
3

It's funny, the media and 'male gaze' encourages and fetishizes lesbianism while demonising male homosexuality. This imbalance isn't as pronounced as say, the early 00s when it peaked (as lesbianism grew more accepted), but I feel it's led to an increase of female homosexuality relative to male. Past studies (pre 2000) actually showed male bisexuality to be common in the West. I think most have some capacity for same sex attraction, so I think we'll see numbers evening out. Will we ever get to a…
/r/MensRights20/10/22 05:42 AM
4

There's this trope of some women literally giving up on men and going gay, but not as much women. There's the idea women are more sexually fluid, but if you strip all the culture away is that really true? Great ape males display just as much sexual fluidity as females.
/r/MensRights20/10/22 03:07 AM
0

They're both animals who have sex.
/r/MensRights17/10/22 12:50 PM
0

Among giraffes 90% of sex is between males. Many prefer to stay in all male groups and mostly visit females to mate. So segregated.
/r/MensRights17/10/22 12:22 PM
4

Totally understand bro. Sometimes I feel too much reddit isn't good. I'm not bitter or hateful to women, and I don't want to be, but I am aggrieved about aspects of society. Women do get screwed too...but I am grateful there are a variety of viewpoints.
/r/MensRights17/10/22 12:17 PM
-3

I suppose if you're assigning blame...some could argue both the idea of patriarchy and gynocentricism have some biological basis. But...culture can change it to some extent. Do you think a totally gender equality society is possible?
/r/MensRights17/10/22 12:15 PM
0

Yeah I agree with feminists on some points, but they take it too far and bring back EVERYTHING to the patriarchy when it's a lot more complex than that, and always have the paint women as the main victims, with male suffering as incidental.
/r/MensRights17/10/22 12:03 PM
3

I dunno how much is really biology. I don't deny there could be some biological basis, but there's definitely a lot of society/cultural influence. How much we can't say as they're inseparable/so intertwined.
/r/MensRights15/10/22 11:04 AM
1

This is heroic for sure, but I'd like to think she would've done the same. But I guess gender expectations...
/r/MensRights11/10/22 12:03 PM
1

I dunno, I've heard the tables do turn in your 30s and 40s but dating sites haven't been much easier than when I was in my 20s. Many my age are jaded and since they're usually more serious they have higher expectations too. Unless they just lack options.
/r/MensRights06/10/22 07:39 AM
1

Yes, and also women are encouraged to be picky, whereas men are accused of being shallow or too picky if they have the same standards. Maybe cos of the realities of dating.
/r/MensRights06/10/22 03:29 AM
1

So youre saying most women are more turned on by being wanted/pursued? I mean I get that, but they can still judge someone as good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 02:16 PM
8

Yeah Ive tried posting tons of topics in askwomen, most very reasonable, and they're always deleted. It's weird man.
/r/MensRights05/10/22 02:15 PM
1

Yeah many men feel invisible...like, most women get more compliments from other women than men do, for obvious reasons. I can't blame these women for it getting to their heads.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 02:09 PM
1

Well there are male gold diggers too. Like the female ones they might not be as into them. Is the female gold digger's attraction any more real? To me intelligence/personality etc can make an average woman much more attractive, but I have to find her at least a little attractive and not offputtingly ugly (to be blunt about it).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 02:08 PM
9

Yeah online dating has made us all shallower, pickier etc...except in the real world few get what we really want. It's mostly illusionary and empty, unless maybe you just want casual flings.
/r/MensRights05/10/22 02:02 PM
1

It seems many men are obsessed with this idea all women want tall men...moreso than women themselves. Clearly many men under 6 feet are into relationships etc. And those who aren't super rich. But it still seems many women are picky about just looks.
/r/MensRights05/10/22 02:01 PM
6

When I was a teenager it seems girls were as boy crazy as boys were about girls. Then I reached my 20s and realised how fucking unequal it was..
/r/MensRights05/10/22 01:59 PM
10

Yeah I'm a romantic, I hate that utilitarian shit but that's the world we live in.
/r/MensRights05/10/22 01:58 PM
1

I find that idea foreign. I mean...you do like men right? Haha nah. Like...even as a straight man I notice at least a few good looking women if I'm out, but I also notice good looking men, but not as much cos they're not my preference. More just aesthetically. Are you saying even as a straight (or woman into men) you rarely notice them?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 01:57 PM
2

The answers in askmen would indicate that many find at least 50% attractive. Some do find far fewer attractive. Personally I'd say maybe 25% are somewhat attractive, and maybe 5-10% really stand out/would catch my eye. And thats those 18-45. So I suppose if you were to take away the others it'd be much lower. But if you're asking what % I'd rule out if they had a great personality just based on looks? Probably less than half of the age I am looking for (30-40 preferably, I'm 36). Maybe men don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 01:52 PM
1

Yeah men just need to be more picky and discerning. But guess that goes against biology? I dunno I do notice a lot of women I like but I'm not really into casual sex with many random women. I'm more of a romantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 01:50 PM
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Yeah I certainly feel invisible. More and more men around my age feel hopeless/have given up.
/r/MensRights05/10/22 01:49 PM
1

Yeah maybe true for some.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 01:48 PM
1

Its often repeated, but there's still something called natural attractiveness. I see many women who are made up, dress well etc, but facially speaking they do little for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 01:48 PM
0

Yes but you do realise the specific socio cultural preassures that lead to that right? In the past and other cultures men cared just as much about their appearance as women. Maybe it's to do with the media, advertising, male gaze whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 01:47 PM
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Yeah but I mean to not even think 90%+ of men are good looking? Putting aside the other preferences or requirements. Plus even if there is a biological basis for it (and I think there's some), culture etc has warped things. It wasn't always like this.
/r/MensRights05/10/22 01:45 PM
1

The idea that women are somehow 'objectively' more attractive. Take away the makeup, fashion, etc and I guarantee most STRAIGHT WOMEN wouldn't think that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 01:43 PM
1

Whats your gender and sexuality?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 11:26 AM
1

Wow wtf...pretty high standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 11:13 AM
1

Why interesting? Isnt it depressing?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 11:12 AM
6

I dunno, I kinda preferred the fashions/style of that era. I found the female movie stars generally better looking than those today, but personality and style plays a role. They just had more class. Men too.
/r/MensRights05/10/22 10:41 AM
6

Yeah photos of women from say the 1800s make them look much plainer.
/r/MensRights05/10/22 10:30 AM
2

I'm not expecting something completely equal but it's got ridiculous. You think a woman getting flooded with likes and many men struggling to get any is a good thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 10:29 AM
2

That may be the case for many, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 10:28 AM
8

Can't deny the physical is a big factor in attraction generally.
/r/MensRights05/10/22 10:27 AM
15

Seems pretty obvious, no? Most men struggling to find anyone, women too picky so they'll eventually have to settle.
/r/MensRights05/10/22 10:27 AM
3

But online dating is so based on looks. Many these days don't even bother with a profile. And there are fewer avenues offline to get to know people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 10:26 AM
1

Why not? Like, is the physical really not a factor or do few meet your standards? To me personality is a big factor, but yeah I will say like most guys I probably wouldn't turn down an attractive woman initially anyway, unless there was something big that turned me off.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 10:25 AM
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I went to a speed dating event where I talked to 18 women and did not get a single match. Felt I was interesting and charismatic, and am at least average looking. Not like I had much competition either. Pretty depressing.
/r/MensRights05/10/22 10:24 AM
25

I think obesity is rising in both men and women, but not a dramatic increase.
/r/MensRights05/10/22 10:22 AM
2

What about women? I mean in an impartial sense, like not attractive to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 10:21 AM
4

Yeah I was thinking about it today on the tram. Out of maybe 15 random women none did it for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 10:20 AM
16

Yeah in nature the males are usually the 'prettier' ones, so humans are an outlier - or rather, modern western culture. I do wonder, do you think the glorification of female beauty/putting them on a pedestal makes the dating market even MORE unequal than it would be?
/r/MensRights05/10/22 07:02 AM
24

I know. I feel fucking invisible most of the time. Sick of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 06:32 AM
26

Yeah wtf right? I've heard 20% but 1%? What are they expecting, male models? Movie stars? And the fact tbese comments get so much likes.
/r/MensRights05/10/22 06:32 AM
1

Basically any turn off? Or things related to low emotional intelligence?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 06:22 AM
1

The children were probably fair game, the women (young women of birthing age) were for sexual purposes/reproduction.
/r/MensRights01/09/22 07:46 AM
2

I mean, I do think it is true that yes, in general a womb is more valuable to the species surviving than an inseminator, but it's a lot more complex than that. Also males will 'high value' sperm/genes could be argued to be even more valuable. But the gender ratio is 50/50 so there's clearly a good reason why it's important to have an even gender split. As many have said 1 man and say 100 woman isn't socially or genetically viable. Genetic variability is important, and you need quite a few males.…
/r/MensRights01/09/22 02:02 AM
1

This is so fucked up
/r/MensRights31/08/22 03:12 PM
2

I've heard a theory they do this for protection. What do you think of this? But I mean how much of this is innate? Men self segregate too. In many mammal species there are often bachelor groups of males.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 12:45 PM
2

You could argue genes are inseparable from/a part of environment...the urge to create social alliances/friendships isn't just a female thing either.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 12:38 PM
1

So are you saying there's no hope?
/r/MensRights30/08/22 12:01 PM
6

How can you say anything is purely innate and not influenced by environment (society etc)? Basically everything psychological is.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 12:00 PM
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Do you feel male friendships in general are more solid or stable? Big generalisation I know
/r/MensRights30/08/22 09:43 AM
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Are you saying women don't have the same romantic feelings as men? I mean many still really want to be with a man.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 02:51 AM
3

Yeah it seems this only seems to apply to sexual assault.. also if it was as easy to teach men not to rape, why don't we just teach people not to commit crimes...oh wait we've tried through schooling, religion etc...it doesn't work for everyone. If I ever have a daughter I sure as well hope she's as best equiped to protect herself/while being sensible. Of course I want the world to be as safe for women and everyone else, but it should go without saying shit happens and life ain't easy.
/r/MensRights26/08/22 07:02 AM
4

Yeah some balance and perspective would be nice. God I miss the 90s sometimes, even if some things were worse..
/r/MensRights26/08/22 06:23 AM
6

Because that's how women naturally are.
/r/MensRights26/08/22 02:58 AM
5

How did they create the problem?
/r/MensRights26/08/22 02:39 AM
4

I just posted another thread there about this topic.
/r/MensRights26/08/22 02:35 AM
8

Er what? I dont identify as either an MRA or feminist, I do agree/disagree with both on certain points. There's no rule that says you can't post in both. Doesn't make me a troll.
/r/MensRights26/08/22 02:34 AM
12

I mean if most men had more choices of course most would go for the attractive ones.
/r/MensRights07/08/22 04:10 AM
12

Yeah I don't advocate hating women. Not like most men wouldn't do the same. But I just wish things were more equal.
/r/MensRights07/08/22 03:41 AM
3

But only in the 65+ age group are there more single women.
/r/MensRights07/08/22 03:14 AM
1

Yeah I mean many think humans aren't hard-wired for monogamy, using infidelity as an example, but it seems we're at least somewhat monogamous. Some people - men and women - are very happy with it. Some aren't, and that's their decision. But yeah, many do see most men as cheaters or abusers etc.
/r/MensRights03/08/22 05:36 AM
2

I dunno, statistically though they are still less likely to cheat so I can't agree with that.
/r/MensRights02/08/22 01:01 PM
18

The type of feminism they're selling is all about rights and privileges, not responsibilities. Also victimhood and infantalisation under the guise of empowerment. I support some feminist values/initiatives, but if taken broadly there are inconsistencies. It's an easy sell. I don't think cheating is good for anyone, but I've heard women under 24 are now cheating as much as men. Of course it's another reason to celebrate equality right.
/r/MensRights02/08/22 04:18 AM
2

I think it's more, those in power have turned it into a broad male vs female issue. The narrative is women need to support each other against men because men are inherently dangerous or at least oppressive, even if a minority are. It's insidious. Doesn't mean women don't screw over other women too. But it's not like men have never supported things that benefit them as a group. But even in the patriarchal system you did have things that screwed over men too. I know there are many women who are tr…
/r/MensRights02/08/22 02:05 AM
2

We've been desensitised to violence against males. It's interesting cos I've heard some say female deaths are especially egregious because of the sexual/torture element.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 06:52 AM
1

If so what would the explanation be? Feminists emphasise how women need to support each other, how they shouldn't fight etc. Sounds good on the surface but sometimes that means ganging up against men. But I find it interesting how men are actually less biased.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 06:50 AM
9

I don't think any society has existed where people have had absolute freedom to choose. Most people anyway. Traditionally of course women still did a lot of work outside the house, though in agricultural societies men and women often did the same work.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 06:25 AM
2

Well, as close to equality as is possible. In terms of legal rights etc. Some people will never be satisfied.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 05:53 AM
1

Maybe pretend to be against them more cos they're pressured by feminism lol jk. I guess many some would say whoever benefits more from them is? One could argue men and women do in different ways, but we're all individuals with individual experiences.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 05:31 AM
6

No that's not how it's usually defined. That's what some have changed the definition to.
/r/MensRights21/06/22 02:48 PM
1

Yeah you always hear them say 'women need to stick/together and support each other', not as much men. No prizes for guessing why. Yeah I agree there are hierarchies in nature. That doesn't mean men or women should do this or that, but it is a fact of life true equality, like true peace, is more an abstract ideal than a reality. I mean full equality.
/r/MensRights21/06/22 06:53 AM
2

Maybe the key is to use emotion/guilt back, not try to reason.
/r/MensRights21/06/22 05:00 AM
-1

I disagree, I think some feminists were well intentioned, some genuinely do care about men, but there has been a streak of misandry throughout, yes.
/r/MensRights21/06/22 04:59 AM
1

Yeah sounds like some Amazonian fantasy. I've even heard some claim men or the Y chrosome will go extinct...in thousands or millions of years or whatever...it's pretty funny really.
/r/MensRights21/06/22 04:58 AM
2

I think most MRAs do just want a fair go, but any movement is made of people with their own hangups, bad experiences, biases and prejudice. There are bitter people on the MRA train same as feminism...it's just feminism gets away with more. I find it weird and disturbing some feminists feel threatened by the MR movement in its entirety though. I wouldn't characterise all feminism as like the KKK, but there are bigoted, hateful and sexist elements among it.
/r/MensRights21/06/22 04:56 AM
7

So there's no overarching movement that seeks gender equality it seems. A Men's Rights movement would imo just go down the same route...but I do think like early feminism there's a place for it for specific men's issues. A true movement for equality would have to not really primarily be about any group's rights, but have the goal of indiscriminately eliminated unfairness.
/r/MensRights20/06/22 02:34 PM
1

Yeah seems harder to believe given the times, but a lot of it was done in secret.
/r/MensRights18/06/22 10:22 AM
1

Even in the 50s Kinsey claimed 30% of males had bad a same sex experience, compared to like 12% of women. But idk how representative his sample was.
/r/MensRights18/06/22 09:22 AM
2

I feel its mostly culture. In the past male bisexuality seemed commoner. Lol yeah I'm trying to kick a lesbian porn addiction myself...well I don't watch that much anymore.
/r/MensRights18/06/22 08:38 AM
2

Wouldn't you rather someone who wasn't ideal but was still decent or no one at all?
/r/MensRights17/06/22 04:15 AM
1

In most human societies monogamy is the rule, though, and many mammal species are more monogamous (maybe not the majority). I think humans aren't as strongly polygamous as say gorillas. We're at least somewhat monogamous. Im not sure most women would rather share those men than have their own. In the past they often didn't have a choice as the richest most powerful men would take them against their will.
/r/MensRights17/06/22 02:32 AM
4

I mean there are many reasons why they might have selected that option. But yeah, that plays into it for some lol.
/r/MensRights16/06/22 09:56 AM
4

It is a bit simplistic to say fewer women care about men but...it might apply in some cases.
/r/MensRights16/06/22 09:33 AM
9

How old are you?
/r/MensRights16/06/22 08:48 AM
11

I still find it weird how that works, if you have roughly equal single men and women looking...like supply and demand says it shouldnt be so ridiculously unequal, not like there are way more guys.. Guess cos there are more online, and women are pickier? Still seems weird.
/r/MensRights16/06/22 08:21 AM
2

Yeah it fucking sucks really. It's become all so dysfunctional. No wonder in some ways the battle of the sexes is heating up again.
/r/MensRights16/06/22 06:45 AM
4

And yeah, the bias really bugs me. Not just gender but race/ethnicity and age. The media goes crazy over missing or murdered little white girls, but who'd care about an old black man? Makes me sick sometimes. All lives should matter.
/r/MensRights16/06/22 05:18 AM
3

I've often heard it said the average woman is more valuable because she gives birth, but in a way wouldn't the more 'alpha' males with 'good genes' be even more valuable as they can impregnate many with those good genes?
/r/MensRights16/06/22 05:17 AM
6

Yes there are other social factors, but yes, online dating does detach us from reality somewhat. Like many aspects of life we're overwhelmed with choice. I've heard as many women complain about online dating, hopefully it'll push more to try to meet in different avenues, but even that seems to be getting harder, everyone is glued to their phones and the online world. I do like meetup for that reason.
/r/MensRights16/06/22 05:15 AM
2

Yeah but you might not know which was which. If I had all the info I'd choose whoever would do the most good/least bad. It's a funny one. I think this thinking is as much due to the patriarchal idea women are more helpless, need to be protected, are valuable for their wombs, but I posed this question in another group and an obviously feminist woman actually said saving the woman made sense cos men are dangerous and violent. So there's this idea men are more dispensable due to being morally infer…
/r/MensRights16/06/22 04:59 AM
1

I've had that thought before, actually. Like you'd think the hornier gender is less discriminating. I do think like others have said it's mostly society and culture rather than biology. Alfred Kinsey did a survey that suggested over 30% of males had a same sex experience, and this was back in the conservative 40s or 50s. Indeed it was far higher than for females. Of course we don't know how representative that was, but it seemed male bisexuality was commoner than female until recently. In human …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 04:26 AM
3

It shouldn't be not all men, but not most men. Not all men makes it still sound like most.
/r/MensRights14/06/22 05:23 AM
2

Of those I know I hear more women complaining about men. Some have negative experiences, which is understandable, though generalisation shouldn't be encouraged (like some people are racist because of bad experiences but that's never condoned).
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