Don't forget to thank people like Dr. Fiamengo after they do talks on Men's Rights

stemgang · 2014-03-31T14:41:59+00:00

Thanks for the reminder. Speakers like her are risking their careers by taking controversial stances against overwhelming social and peer pressure. We need to recognize their bravery.

JCurry2 · 2014-03-31T14:21:14+00:00

For the record here are the links from her talks;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3azaMn2a4bA&list=UU7PfGhJXlJiDs4jvGGGgqsQ - Queen's University

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOnuZsXRwTA&list=UU7PfGhJXlJiDs4jvGGGgqsQ - Ottawa university (this gets shutdown due to protest)

And here is her email [email protected]

memetherapy · 2014-03-31T19:18:01+00:00

This is a great point. I have always regretted not personally thanking Christopher Hitchens before he had passed. These people are real people and views and sales don't really have the impact of a heartfelt one on one interaction whether in person or through mail.

Brand_ · 2014-04-01T02:10:25+00:00

I just sent an email of appreciation to Dr. Fiamengo. We need more people like her helping fight the good fight. Having both a woman and academic legitimizes our cause that much further.

rightsbot · 2014-03-31T13:26:16+00:00

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WhoIsHarlequin · 2014-04-01T00:22:54+00:00

I thought she did a good job but she need to tell the audience that not what happens to men is also caused by women. She kept saying that they were blaming the patriarchy but if it's not the patriarchy then she needed to say that women also cause a large portion of men's problems.

edtastic · 2014-03-31T16:01:40+00:00

I would fear developing the feminist circle of unthinking support. She's indeed a human being but her first talk was vastly superior to the second and I don't think she was really prepared to be in a room full of hostile activists trying to tear her down. I respect her courage and that of all the out and about MRA's taking people on face to face by repeating the same unpopular ideas we employ from the safety of anonymity. The thing is if you're going to risk so much for a cause then you ought do your part well. Don't walk in to destroy the hornet's nest the hornets nest with all smoke and no fire.

I think CAFE could have done better here. They did not prepare her, and the format did not provide her any support. CAFE's centrist approach looks good on the surface but they can't hide from the fact their a anti feminism organization taking on real world feminists time and again. Failure to respond to the most basic challenges posed to them by feminists is shortcoming they need to correct. They are leading a movement not just holding events supportive of men and boys.

I think in the future they might want to try a panel discussion with students well versed on the subject matter supporting people like Janice or others who didn't come to debate feminists but are forced to nonetheless.

That said we should thank her for her contributions and sacrifice. I think she can contribute a lot but she's recounting experiences with feminists she's met in academia. Actually debating feminists is a bit of a specialty even in Men's Rights. We should have people stick to what their good at so we can have specializing in the anti male culture of academia, while active debaters generalize to refine tactics for taking down self righteous college students with irrational emotion based arguments. Your average person isn't going to be ready for people who's idea of common sense is universal empathy through apathy towards males.

Title	Don't forget to thank people like Dr. Fiamengo after they do talks on Men's Rights
Author	JCurry2
Upvotes	90
Comments	17
Date	March 31, 2014 1:24 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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