I am confused: women cosplaying as vixens ....lecherous ogling....does not mean we dress up to have guys drooling over us...

ignatiusloyola · 2012-10-18T04:14:50+00:00

I think she makes a very valid statement. In other words: You can stare, but if you treat her as a sexual object then she is going to go away.

Let me put it this way... Imagine I am a millionaire. I dress up in an Armani tuxedo, gold rolex, Ferarri, etc - in other words, I am flaunting my money. And let's say that I go to a night club. If the girls there are interested in me, they will talk with me, listen to me, and the discourse will follow our common interests. But if the girls there only ask me about my money, like "how many houses do you have?" and "could you buy a plane?" or "can you buy me something?" Well, in that case, I am not going to want to be around those girls.

It is a perfectly valid position she had.

Armagetiton · 2012-10-18T01:42:02+00:00

The guys in the article did seem to be acting like assholes. Pretending there isn't a sexual dimension to those outfits is idiotic. But that doesn't mean making repeated blanket sexual comments is a great idea. I certainly wouldn't call for the guys to be labelled "sexual harassers" and barred from the convention. But I think they shouldn't have acted like that.

edit: Re-reading the article I am gonna agree that what the camera people did was sexual harassment and they deserve to be ejected. I do not think the "large and supple breasts" joke was sexual harassment however since there is no indication he continued despite being told to stop.

Leaving rest of my comments as originally written.

Darkfire359 · 2012-10-18T03:17:50+00:00

A woman goes to Comic Con, and what does she want to do? Well, she wants to dress up as someone from a comic! Assuming she actually wants to cosplay a character of her same gender, and given the general amount of nudity that any female comic book character shows, she doesn't have many options other than showing cleavage. She specifically said that although the costume was more revealing than she was used to, it was much less revealing than most of the other costumes. Thus, when she chooses to dress up as a character with a slightly revealing costume, she neither wants nor expects to be blatantly sexually harassed about it.

sethdar1012 · 2012-10-18T02:05:13+00:00

I can understand her discomfort: imagine you are wearing some kind of spandex type suit, and a bunch of women are standing around trying to guess the size of your penis. I'd certainly be like WTF, you can't do that. Then again, I also wouldn't think it was a big deal either. I wonder what proportion of her outrage is inherent, and what proportion is because she's socially conditioned to be outraged by such things?

Pecanpig · 2012-10-18T00:57:55+00:00

One guy with the social graces of a lemur said to me “I was this close to wearing that same outfit.....Nope. Stop talking.

Some fresh shaming language i never heard before. It is a comic book convention why can't people just have comic fantasy.

I suspect an interview like this one, she thinks is degrading

Bobsutan · 2012-10-18T09:14:59+00:00

Meh, this is just another version of creep shaming IMO. Yes the guys went overboard, but if they were attractive or some big celebrity I suspect she'd be singing a different tune. You don't dress up looking like that expecting NOT to be ogled or catcalled or whatever. In fact it's inviting it. To expect anything less is idiotic, like someone in a KKK hood yelling racial slurs in a gang area. There's cosplay and then there's outright attention whoring. Boo fucking hoo she got more than she bargained for.

Pecanpig · 2012-10-18T01:00:46+00:00

Yes, unless pressing your boobs up and outward to infinity and beyond has any other purpose than to gain male sexual attention.

Ted8367 · 2012-10-18T03:00:30+00:00

It is not all about your dicks, gentlemen.

What?

WHAT???

AeneaLamia · 2012-10-19T14:08:03+00:00

I don't see what there is to be confused about.

Girl goes to comicon (or whatever). Meets a bunch of assholes. End encounter.

Doesn't mean there's any kind of systemic thing at work here, just that those guys were assholes.

blackmanplayt1 · 2012-10-18T15:54:49+00:00

dang kassemg would have been thrown in jail if he interviewed that girl

she really got no sense of humor about her body

Title	I am confused: women cosplaying as vixens ....lecherous ogling....does not mean we dress up to have guys drooling over us...
Author	caveman_advice
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Date	October 18, 2012 12:56 AM UTC (13 years ago)
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