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Safe haven laws - Women abandoning their children

ZimbaZumba

July 1, 2012

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Title	Safe haven laws - Women abandoning their children
Author	ZimbaZumba
Upvotes	20
Comments	25
Date	July 1, 2012 3:14 AM UTC (14 years ago)
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Actually, it' not. (I'm a foster parent, this is why I hear about Safe Haven cases.) While babies are sometimes anonymously dumped, a Safe Haven surrender that is done legally involves making contact with an authority figure (cop/fireman/nurse) and filling out a form. Many safe Haven locations also have a closed-circuit TV system for security (due to the nature of their other business), so there is often a picture of the woman/girl who did the dropoff, even if she lies on the form and/or presents a fake ID.

Social Services ALWAYS looks for Safe Haven users, because they don't want a disrupted adoption down the road if a relative comes forward and because there is usually a secondary crime that precipitates the dropoff -often incest or extreme statutory rape in combination with drug use.

Safe Haven serves an edge demographic - think Appalachia. Normal people do not resort to it.

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Yes, it's harder to give up a child a month after birth than a day after birth - the principal difference being that people from the government will insist on coming to your house, where they will discover the bad shit that is going down there.

But you are using the word "decided" to describe a group of people who are not making what you and and I would call "decisions." They are reacting to circumstances in an extremely addled manner, typically under huge amounts of pressure (and I'm not just talking about the moms, I'm talking about the entire extended family). And your use of the word "abandoned" in also inappropriate. Safe Haven babies are NOT abandoned. They are always safe, and immediately placed with loving families who hope to adopt.

You are envisioning a normal guy who has a baby with his girlfriend coming home one day to find that his baby has disappeared. That is just not what happens in Safe Haven cases. A normal guy can come home and find his wife/girlfriend and baby gone, and later be smacked with a support order, but that's a different problem unrelated to the Safe Haven issue.

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