Attacking male sexuality

ENTP · 2012-05-26T19:16:00+00:00

The valuation of human beings, of men and women, based on who they’d like to fuck or what kind of orifice they prefer is stupid and has no place in the men’s rights movement, or at AVfM.

Fuckin' A!

kronox · 2012-05-26T23:42:03+00:00

I don't get this article, is he saying he has seen examples in the MRM of men or women not behind gay rights? If he is i would have to say i have never seen it, at least not here or on avfm. I have noticed nothing but understanding and acceptance for the gay, lesbian, transgender community, at least in mens rights spaces.

ZimbaZumba · 2012-05-26T19:01:29+00:00

If an analysis and redefinition of gender is to be made, then using their reasoning frankly “Femaleness” is in far more need of attention. No seriously it does if you read the justifications of the “Redefining Masculinity” crowd. But redefining what it means to be a Woman seems to be beyond the bounds of reasonable discussion.

Challenge feminists on this and they say women have already done this with 2nd wave feminism in the 1960′s. No, 2nd wave feminism was give me stuff and give it me now. I think MRA’s should push women to redefine “Femaleness” in a meaningful way.

That being said, all of this is one big crock and no one is really buying it. Its motivations are insincere and it will fade.

2012-05-26T23:54:30+00:00

I have not seen an uptick in anti-gay sentiment. But if there is, it may be related to all the social conservative traditionalists that seem to be jumping on the MRM bandwagon lately. Mra videos on YouTube, especially, seems to be attracting them.

2012-05-26T20:14:58+00:00

The comment I put up on AVFM...

Great article.

In the same vein, I think the men’s movement needs to have a deeper think about the implications of saying that wearing x and drinking y around men at parties and in clubs and bars is analogous to flashing cash in a bad neighborhood. We are not a bad neighborhood.

zaferk · 2012-05-27T03:02:24+00:00

I get the feeling that many men in the mens rights movement want a male version of feminism.

Sluts are not good. Neither are studs.

Deal with it.

johntheother · 2012-05-26T18:28:28+00:00

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Human-Stupidity_com · 2012-05-26T21:21:32+00:00

"Attacking male sexuality"

From this title I was expecting a discussion of majority issues. The majority of males could be attracted to older looking females under the age of consent (increased since women got the vote and constantly increased by feminists). He could fall victim to strict liability laws when he kisses and fondles a girl he picks up in a 21 and over bar and even if he verifies her ID. Even if the ID is her true government emitted ID.

A mainstream male could be curious and look at photos of dressed women that look 18, but turn out 15 (google Knox vs. USA).

knox vs. usa

Then get a few years in prison. Up to life if the photos (which are 0's and 1's) are numerous, and maybe a bit more raunchy.

While women's romance porn can denigrate men who feel inadequate in comparison to rich, handsome, intelligent, socially skilled young surgeons, heroes of these stories. And Amazon in Britain has a huge stash of child abuse books which avidly get bought by women. Unpunished.

The problem is that the kind of male sexuality I am mentioning is also being attacked by lots of males, probably even family oriented men right on this site.

Instead of protecting and educating and controlling their daughters, they join feminists in attacking male sexuality, they agree with feminist attitude that the government should punish other men that dare to show interest in their daughters or that just peruse photos in the privacy of their own home.

Note that this anti-sexual attitude actually victimizes women and children (see Scientific study by Dr. Milton Diamond, U. Hawaii

With all due respect, gays are probably under 5% of males. Transsexual are 0.???1% of males. Let us not forget 80% of healthy heterosexual males that could be tempted by postpubertal women that were declared illegal by feminist and religious inspired law. Not only illegal but "protected" by draconian punishments.

Of course, the majority of males could also be attracted to pretty 20 some year old luxury prostitutes. If the woman looks nice and healthy, and the price is as low as a dinner with a date. These men go right to prison if she turns out to be a female cop. This is an attack on male sexuality.

Grapeban · 2012-05-26T23:04:49+00:00

Nothing particularly wrong with this article, the inherent message is good in fact ("hey y'all, don't be hating on gay people" basically), but there are some problematic things.

1) >rejects the legitimacy of men whose self identity and sexuality is gay or bisexual, or I suppose, transsexual.

This is nitpicky, but if you're going to be talking about male sexuality and people's reactions to male sexuality, don't mention trans people. Being trans is not a sexuality. If you are going to mention us, don't just toss us in with an "I suppose".

2) >When men are not expected to die without complaint any time higher gas prices make it inconvenient for soccer moms to drive from their gated community to the local grass pitch, or any other time men’s utility trumps their humanity, well then maybe I’ll entertain the usefulness of keeping the gays or the darkies out of the club house.

Maybe this is a joke? I dunno, but it has the unfortunate implication that the real reason AVFM isn't racist or homophobic is that being that isn't useful to the MRM.

3) >Male identity is one of the fundamental drivers of the MGTOW movement; which, for anyone returning to this planet after a decade of vacation, is a growing pathway of masculine self-identity in which men are rejecting a statist, a collectivist, feminist or even a female-approved definition of what constitutes a man

The MGTOW's are a bunch of misogynists who have said, "All women are bitches!" (bonus points if they only mention Western/feminist women!) and are staging some kind of hilarious "protest" about it by refusing to have sex with people who probably don't want to have sex with them anyway.

5) >women as sexual gate-keepers

This phrase really annoys me. Of course women are sexual gate-keepers, everyone should be a sexual gate-keeper! You should have the ability to decide who you have sex with!

johntheother · 2012-05-26T18:27:31+00:00

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Title	Attacking male sexuality
Author	johntheother
Upvotes	30
Comments	35
Date	May 26, 2012 6:19 PM UTC (14 years ago)
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