A feminist writes "perhaps it’s premature to start worrying too much about the “second sexism” (Misandry) when the first one (Misoygny) seems so prevalent still."

ENTP · 2012-05-22T20:31:44+00:00

A better quote from that review from Julie Bindel:

“total and utter bullshit. There are areas where men are paying the price that male supremacy gives them – there’s absolutely no doubt about that… The reality is that the public domain belongs entirely to men and the disadvantages they face are just the price they pay. It’s tough cheese.”

Lovely lady (and another transphobic feminist, surprise surprise)

cthulufunk · 2012-05-22T21:15:25+00:00

"Remember, when they say to be patient and wait for equality, that means: never". - MLK

fascistgases · 2012-05-22T20:31:03+00:00

Because our civil rights are more important than yours! Wait...

2012-05-22T20:20:35+00:00

As long as the world is not turned into her vision of a feminist utopia, she wants sexism against males to be downplayed or ignored.

AryoBarzan · 2012-05-22T21:19:08+00:00

Too bad this 'first type of sexism' will NEVER cease to exist in her mind, so we'll never get to this 'second type of sexism'. It's amazing how many people think MRA's should work WITH feminists after statements like these are made.

2012-05-22T21:25:55+00:00

Transphobic feminist?

So what she really means is "fuck everyone else. women-born-women come first in everything."

Celda · 2012-05-22T21:15:58+00:00

the lie still remains that women produce 66% of the world’s work in exchange for 10% of its income, and own only 1% of the world’s property.

Fixed.

cthulufunk · 2012-05-22T23:00:31+00:00

Even better quotes from Julie Bigot Bindel.

Lurker_IV · 2012-05-22T23:15:06+00:00

I think she should read up on the Women's suffrage movement. Time and time again women were told, "its not a good time for your rights, we have so many other problems to deal with!" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women's_suffrage_in_the_United_States

"There is a civil war going on, now is not a good time to cause trouble." "We are in the middle of a depression, don't rock the boat." Etc., etc.. Eventually they got tired of being put off and made trouble till they earned their rights.

Any violation or abuse of a people/group/ethnicity/sex should be opposed whenever it is possible to do so.

TerriChris · 2012-05-22T21:26:42+00:00

Feminism is a supremacist ideology. It cannot be stated enough.

Whisper · 2012-05-23T01:12:09+00:00

A feminist is someone who wants to fix the last problem faced by women before the first problem faced by men.

levelate · 2012-05-22T23:39:30+00:00

there you have it gentlemen.

any problem a man faces is secondary to the smallest trifle that women face

as cthulufunk quoted...

Remember, when they say to be patient and wait for equality, that means: never

2012-05-23T12:13:07+00:00

"perhaps it's premature to start worrying too much about the second racism (against arabs) when the first one (against blacks) seems so prevalent still."

I mean, I've heard many times feminists compare their plight with racism. Fair is fair, right?

PierceHarlan · 2012-05-22T21:14:12+00:00

While I have grown weary of articles and books positing that "men have it worse," in this case, the reviewer's arguments are terribly weak and not at all persuasive. If this were all we had to go by, I'd say men definitely do it worse.

alecbenzer · 2012-05-23T04:46:07+00:00

This makes about as much sense as saying "since there are starving kids in Africa so no one should ever worry about anything except that" (which, honestly, is not a completely ridiculous idea, but few people actually think like this).

babno · 2012-05-23T07:45:38+00:00

Atleast she admits it exists.

2012-05-24T03:38:47+00:00

Hopefully, one day, they will realise they are one and the same. As long as women are held as victims, men will be held as aggressors. As long as women are held as special, men will be held as expendable. As long as women are held as weak, men will be held as strong. Ending misogyny goes hand in hand with ending misandry, and the childish notion "I do respect women! I respect women even more than men!" is helping no one in the long run.

rodvanmechelen · 2012-05-25T01:19:56+00:00

This is precisely the kind of thinking that I have actively and publicly opposed for 24+ years. The reason it's a bad idea is the backlash. No, not my website, nor even Susan Faludi's book of lies by the same name, but the cyclic nature of social behavior. If the oppression of one class is elevated above all others, then eventually there will be a backlash against it. This is what the ruling elites want. Moreover, as outlined in Eric Hoffer's seminal work, The True Believer, the feminist movement is now in the consolidation of power phase. The feminist movement is now about power and control. Equality for women is the banner under which they rally, but by their attacks on right-wing women they expose their true agenda. To end all sexism, we have to...end ALL sexism, and it has to be done all at once. Otherwise, the continuing cycle of sexism, which stretches back thousands of years, will continue, and the next leg of the cycle is going to go against women. So it would be in the best interests of women to fight to end ALL sexism before that happens.

Title	A feminist writes "perhaps it’s premature to start worrying too much about the “second sexism” (Misandry) when the first one (Misoygny) seems so prevalent still."
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Date	May 22, 2012 8:18 PM UTC (14 years ago)
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