The prevailing modern view of men is that they are primarily destructive and hateful creatures while it is women who civilize men, and are deserving of veneration for their acts of creation

r0t0r00t · 2010-09-28T18:40:03+00:00

Yea women are completely innocent. /eyeroll

koonat · 2010-09-28T19:27:58+00:00

This kind of hateful drivel does nothing to advance men's rights. This exists only to perpetuate a perceived gender war.

There is no winner in a war like this, only losers.

Those of you filled with hate have already lost.

Attack systems that enforce gender inequality, attack establishments that promote inequality, don't attack women on the whole. It just makes you look stupid and makes us all look as stupid as you for letting it stay here.

Kuonji · 2010-09-28T20:56:00+00:00

This would be a better article if he was refuting something more significant than a line from Terminator 2.

DutchUncle · 2010-09-28T19:57:02+00:00

Does anybody have a link to the talk (or essay) I'm about to describe. I read it sometime ago, but I can't find the link to it in my bookmarks.

Basically, the talk discussed how civilization is dependent on men. That men are evolutionarily predisposed to striving, to the point where you find men on the extremes -- super-geniuses and morons -- more so than you do women. Competition and achievement is in our DNA, since the successful man can impregnate many women. Women, on the other hand, are built to be more durable and more risk-averse. Their disposition isn't towards competition but nurturing.

The conclusion of the article is that men and women have both succeeded by their own measure, only what does it mean to have succeeded as a nurturer? There is no capital accumulation in nurturing. And, thus, it is the cumulative efforts of men that have taken us from caves to skyscrapers.

I'm grossly oversimplifying the thesis, but this is the gist of it. Anyone come across this and have a link to it, or know where to find it? Thanks.

Edit: I found it!

"Is There Anything Good About Men?," Roy F. Baumeister.

American Psychological Association, Invited Address, 2007
Media Transcript Full Version
http://www.psy.fsu.edu/~baumeistertice/goodaboutmen.htm

2010-09-28T20:22:50+00:00

I’ll bet a good 90% of all scientific, artistic and even cultural progress in any specific period of mankind is attributed to the contribution of men.

Terraneaux · 2010-09-28T17:59:38+00:00

To people who are still stuck in the Frankenstein myth, I always say 'read Isaac Asimov.'

cynwrig · 2010-09-28T21:55:59+00:00

I don't really get this issue. Sorry, but even if popular culture makes fun of men (sometimes), men are not dis-enfranchised by culture on the whole. Women still earn less for the same work, and men and society as a whole evaluates them first as sex objects and second as people. Comparitively, the problems of men in this world are largely imaginary or self-inflicted, and there's really nothing more pathetic than a bunch of privilidged white dudes whining about how sometimes they don't get their way.

2010-09-28T19:44:24+00:00

The cult of domesticity is prevalent, yet we sent all the wives to work to somehow compete with them and save them from themselves at the same time. A deeply hypocritical society is not sustainable.

georedd · 2010-09-29T10:02:31+00:00

http://www.vosizneias.com/60290/2010/07/17/munich-germany-female-role-in-holocaust-re-examined/

http://www.charonboat.com/2007/12/charonboat_dot_com_nazi_in_action4.jpg

FuchsiaGauge · 2010-09-29T02:11:36+00:00

Everyone's so bitter here. It's fun and hilarious to observe. ;)

justdoasisay · 2010-09-29T04:05:43+00:00

Except for Republican women !

jackwripper · 2010-09-28T22:03:25+00:00

Every time I ejaculate I "give birth" to millions of living cells. They are not self sustaining, but neither is a newborn baby.

So are not men MORE creative if they produce billions of offspring? There are processes that can and do produce dozens of babies from one ejaculation nowadays. Why don't men get more credit for this? Sperm donors should all get their own TV shows... man ejaculates once and has Decaplets (10 offspring) or more! DecaDads!

wolfsktaag · 2010-09-29T02:23:44+00:00

show me a matriarchal society, and ill show you a crime infested, dirt poor society

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