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The work obligation gap.

OkLetterhead10

October 30, 2020

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Title	The work obligation gap.
Author	OkLetterhead10
Upvotes	147
Comments	62
Date	October 30, 2020 6:43 AM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/jkrvid/the_work_obligation_gap/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/the-work-obligation-gap.1062591 https://theredarchive.com/post/1062591

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[–]OkLetterhead10left-wing male advocate[S] 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

[–]Deckhead13-2 points 5 years ago [recovered] (15 children) | Copy Link

You don't care. If you cared, like I do, you would be advocating that men work less, such as offering the advice that it's your choice to work more and you don't need to.

Instead, you only frame it in reference to what feminists say about women.

So tell me, is this subreddit about advocating for men? Or is it for bitching about boogey man feminists?

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[–]Deckhead13 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

But you're not responding to accusations. You're posting in here and circle-jerking.

I'm not your enemy BTW. I 100% agree with you (you can look over my history if you want) but this subreddit is the same as every other one that claims male advocacy.

Nothing is done. It's just complains against feminist boogeyman. There's no actual response to feminist publications, there's no counter-analysis. There's no push to message your democratic representatives about unjust laws or inequal funding.

There's no acknowledgement that feminism has done some good things for both genders. It's important to point out when you adversary is correct.

This amounts to nothing except making people angry. So again, are you actually trying to do anything, or just complain? If you're trying to do something, add that message.

The best I think I can do right now in this subreddit is constantly challenge everything posted here in the hope that one or two people pick up the chance to do something.

[–]peanutbutterjams 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I've been on the sub since its inception and while I'll agree it's gone downhill, what you're claiming isn't true. There's quality posts here that are straight male advocacy. There is also a lot of comparing to and talking about feminists because these guys live in a society that is very clearly prejudiced against them while at the same time insisting that men are the oppressors.

That's a huge emotional burden. It's natural that men will sometimes vent. Unlike feminist subreddits, however, that venting is not allowed to be in the form of hate. Because hate is unacceptable.

There's no acknowledgement that feminism has done some good things for both genders.

That's because many people here don't believe that feminism has done good things for men.

So again, are you actually trying to do anything, or just complain?

You are of a type, and that's people who complain about complaining. You should ask yourself this question. Be the change you want to see in the world instead of haranguing other people to do it for you.

[–]Deckhead131 point 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I've been on the sub since its inception and while I'll agree it's gone downhill, what you're claiming isn't true. There's quality posts here that are straight male advocacy.

I've not seen much of it. But I guess that's not very important.

There is also a lot of comparing to and talking about feminists because these guys live in a society that is very clearly prejudiced against them while at the same time insisting that men are the oppressors.

I won't argue the fact of the world. But what's the point of complaining on a like minded subreddit?

That's a huge emotional burden. It's natural that men will sometimes vent.

Fair enough.

You are of a type, and that's people who complain about complaining. You should ask yourself this question. Be the change you want to see in the world instead of haranguing other people to do it for you.

Except I do quite a lot. I won't go into it, I've commented about it before.

Basically, I'm tired of these types of communities. A bunch of guys, who are right, who sit around and complain. They don't do anything meaningful, even when pushed. I don't understand the inaction.

And what will happen, which has already started in here, is the hateful type of guys are going to become louder voices and soon you'll be another mensrights subreddit full of memes about feminism and talking about red pilling. Then there'll be appeals to tradition and it will be another "right-wing" community. It's happened several times before, which I think you've probably seen, and it's already started happening here.

This probably isn't a subreddit for me. I'll unfollow it.

[–]a-man-from-earth1 point 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

And what will happen, which has already started in here, is the hateful type of guys are going to become louder voices and soon you'll be another mensrights subreddit full of memes about feminism and talking about red pilling. Then there'll be appeals to tradition and it will be another "right-wing" community.

That is not going to happen, because we (the community and especially the moderators) put a stop to that. We are starting to tighten the strings in terms of the amount of low-effort posting we allow. We will not let this become a meme sub, and we will not allow this to become overrun with tradcons.

We do allow a wide range of ideas and opinions to be voiced here, but we will moderate more strictly if necessary to protect the identity of our community. As long as I am moderator here, I will personally make sure of that.

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