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Atlantic: "Why Do Girls Get Better Grades Than Boys?" | What do you think?

Strikester101

May 23, 2020
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https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2014/09/why-girls-get-better-grades-than-boys-do/380318/
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Title Atlantic: "Why Do Girls Get Better Grades Than Boys?" | What do you think?
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Strikester101

Upvotes 14
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Date May 23, 2020 9:15 PM UTC
(6 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates
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[–]AndrewEldritchHorror 16 points17 points18 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Because , at least in the low-end public schools I attended, resources are poured into them, while nothing is done for boys at all outside of sports.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

School is essentially sitting around in a low-energy environment doing repetitive busybody work while conforming your views to that of an immediate authority figure. Obedience and conformity creates success while rebellion and independence leads to failure. So yeah.

[–]5th_Law_of_Robotics 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Extreme bias in their favor by the overwhelmingly female staff and a curriculum designed to have girls do better than boys.

[–]bkrugby78 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

How is the curriculum designed to have girls do better than boys?

[–]Halafax -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

How is the curriculum designed to have girls do better than boys?

In the US, the curriculum is designed to teach to state mandated tests that (usually) greatly impact the school's funding, autonomy, and status. It wasn't always like this, but states had to do something to hold under performing schools to done sort of standard.

The result is a teaching method that focuses on students who can sit still for long periods of rote and arbitrary learning. Hands on practice takes time away from lecture and drills. As does physical activity, or discussions on how to apply a skill. Anything that doesn't teach to the test is seen as a diversion, and the teachers have accepted this style, even advocate for it. Many boys, and some girls simply tune out of academics and find something more interesting to focus on.

This is why schools push focus meds on boys with so much enthusiasm. Focus meds change the student so the schools and teachers don't have to change their delivery. And when the focus meds can't cover the difference, the schools just blame the boys and carry on with the techniques they are comfortable with.

[–]bkrugby78 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I don't know what schools do this. I am sure maybe there are some schools that do this, but I've been teaching for 13 years, high school. You'd be fired if you taught like this, union or no union.

The only time kids are sitting still is on test days. Most of the time we have them moving around, sitting in pairs and/or groups. I like to get them on their feet anyways, set up gallery walks, etc.

Hardly anyone lectures. This may have been the case in the time leading up to the 90s, but actually, we aren't even allowed to lecture for any longer than 15 minutes. The workshop method has been in effect since the time I started teaching and has probably existed a lot longer.

I teach in NYC, if this helps. I don't know if it is similar around the country, though I would imagine it differs by individual school.

[–]Halafax 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

My kids school does this. My sister's kid's school did this, in a different state. My nephews and nieces were able to get into a good private school, eventually. I'm a single dad, I can't afford to do that. I'm stuck, with teachers like you who can't see their part of the problem.

[–]bkrugby78 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What part of the problem am I not seeing?

It seems like you are saying you have a problem with the traditional mode of education. Which, if that is what you are stuck with, then yeah, that sucks. Have you tried gathering together with other parents to see if they notice these problems? Schools are slow to change how they do things, but if there is enough parent involvement, they will change.

[–]ExcellentTraffic123 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nice article where they actually talked about helping boys achieve in school.

Thinking of what they said about how grades are based in part on how well students blend into the way school is organized, I can't help but be reminded of how John Taylor Gatto wrote that based on his research and personal experience as a teacher, school as we know it was designed to churn out obedient workers who are good at following instructions.

[–]SonnBaz 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Bias in favour of the girl.

[–]bkrugby78 -4 points-3 points-2 points 6 years ago* (9 children) | Copy Link

Girls follow directions, while boys fuck around.

This isn't rocket science. Anyone who has worked with girls know they follow directions to the letter, while some boys think they can just do whatever they want and it will all work out in the end.

I've taught high school for 15 years and yes, I've had boys who were absolutely FUCKING brilliant! Amazing kids, easy to connect with, understood pop culture references and were easily able to draw connections from the past to today (my focus is History). I've had plenty more girls among that group. I imagine it is just that they are subconsciously trained to follow directions and act accordingly.

It's not the system. It's about personal responsibility. If boys want to do better, they need to put in the time and effort.

Edit: I should point out a few things.

Like I said before, I have had good students and poor students from both sexes. I tend to find if girls are struggling, they are more likely to reach out and ask questions than among boys who struggle. I am not sure why this is, but it could be a factor. Maybe it's some innate thing about males that we struggle in asking for help.

[–]Douglas0327 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

It's about personal responsibility. If boys want to do better, they need to put in the time and effort.

Just pull themselves up by their bootstraps, huh? Great advice. Thanks.

[–]Strikester101[S] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Do you know of the solutions to remedy the crisis?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Trump wanted to teach trades in school. I like that one.

[–]C0dey 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Why hasn't he yet?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Corona

[–]bkrugby78 -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Some schools do have trades. I've been saying this for ages, of course, the trades would be available to everyone. Won't likely happen though, too many people make too much money with things the way they currently are, namely colleges, textbooks companies etc. It's not very trendy to encourage the future youths to be plumbers and electricians, even though those are necessary jobs that will never not be needed.

[–]Douglas0327 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Stop gender training / policing children. Flex the curriculum to recognise boys needs and strengths as well as girls.

Easier said than done.

[–]bkrugby78 -2 points-1 points0 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're welcome.

[–]CaptSnap 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You know I said that same thing about women and girls going into STEM about 20 years ago.

I said girls just need to buck up (not man up, big difference /s) and put on their big girl clothes and just do it.

But I was wrong.

It was education as an institution that was failing women. There was an institutional bias on all levels. Society examined curriculum, it examined how often teachers were calling on kids, it examined the toys girls were playing with, it examined the culture of nerdy socially awkward guys that used to get bullied for being nerds (society never assumed this was why maybe girls didnt go into STEM because we had labelled everyone that did "icky" for 20 years), there are teen girls only coding camps, meet and greet women engineers networking all the up from middle school to professional organizations, corporate sponsors knocking themselves over to show how committed they are to "diversity" hiring, we've gone all the way up to not enough women professors in STEM. Now there is a 2:1 hiring preference for women.

Boys arent doing well in school?

Well they arent trying hard enough.

Have we examined the curriculum?

Have we examined how teacher's feel about boys? I mean besides boys being more likely to be reprimanded, more likely to be suspended, more likely to be expelled, more likely to drop out (especially boys of color)

Have we examined how we are conditioning boys to education from an early age?

Have we examined the culture of education and how it feels about boys?

Have we examined if girls are bullying boys?

Have we created a litany of scholarships for young men?

Have we created a whole host of gendered events and awareness campaigns and feel good retreats and corporate sponsorships to engage boys and young men like we did young women into STEM?

Have we instituted a 2:1 hiring preference for men?

No we didnt do any of that. And we mostl ikely never will.

But we will shake our heads and say, "meh men suck, what can you do?"

And whats crazy is you wont even get fired for believing that! Id be fired from my teaching position if I said publicly "well you know maybe women just suck".... like in a heartbeart.

Even with advanced degrees I have never answered or seen a job position that didnt make it abundantly clear women were preferred. Ive never sat on a hiring committee that didnt lament the lack of women applicants. We must have failed on some front to exclude them.

Do you think for a second anyone has ever that said about men?

If I was to go through it again I wouldnt go into higher education for all the tea in China. Every level of the education system hates men at worst and barely tolerates their presence at the best. Fuck it. If society hates its young men that much then it should do without their labor until a new society is created that does.

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