A great illustration of why this sub is needed. Even self-identified lefties on allegedly leftist subs deny the harm of indefensible legal doctrines.

insane_gravy · 2020-02-02T20:37:11+00:00

FWIW this is a moderator on r/socialsim

b_d_boatmaster_69 · 2020-02-02T21:13:51+00:00

I’m not sure any men have been sent to jail unjustly because of the Duluth Model, but on a somewhat unrelated note, Ellen Pence, co-founder of the Duluth Model, has written herself that’s its shit:

"By determining that the need or desire for power was the motivating force behind battering, we created a conceptual framework that, in fact, did not fit the lived experience of many of the men and women we were working with. The DAIP staff [...] remained undaunted by the difference in our theory and the actual experiences of those we were working with [...] It was the cases themselves that created the chink in each of our theoretical suits of armor. Speaking for myself, I found that many of the men I interviewed did not seem to articulate a desire for power over their partner. Although I relentlessly took every opportunity to point out to men in the groups that they were so motivated and merely in denial, the fact that few men ever articulated such a desire went unnoticed by me and many of my coworkers. Eventually, we realized that we were finding what we had already predetermined to find."

https://archive.org/details/coordinatingcomm00mela/page/29

The Duluth Model remains one of the best examples of the discrepancies between feminist theory and reality.

E: Clarification.

lookafist · 2020-02-02T22:43:08+00:00

It's also manifestly untrue. The Duluth Model assumes men to be the primary aggressor in every DV situation, and requires "mandatory arrest" and "increasingly harsh" jail sentences for primary aggressors.

https://www.theduluthmodel.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/The-Duluth-Model.pdf

Title	A great illustration of why this sub is needed. Even self-identified lefties on allegedly leftist subs deny the harm of indefensible legal doctrines.
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Date	February 2, 2020 8:28 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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