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Judge dismisses ex-girlfriend's lawsuit against Marilyn Manson

Firewalker1969x

September 16, 2021
561 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/music/judge-dismisses-ex-girlfriend-s-lawsuit-against-marilyn-manson-over-n1279328
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Title Judge dismisses ex-girlfriend's lawsuit against Marilyn Manson
Author

Firewalker1969x

Upvotes 561
Comments 34
Date September 16, 2021 1:47 PM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/ppdmhx/judge_dismisses_exgirlfriends_lawsuit_against/
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https://theredarchive.com/post/1070132
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Comments

[–]TheChocolateBarsGuy 133 points134 points135 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She was full of shit. The false allegations are so clear yet she gets pat on the back and support from the media and feminists.

[–]McFeely_Smackup 21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

when someone starts talking about "brainwashing" and "repressed memories" it's automatically nonsense.

and why is she "Jane Doe"? why does she get to file a public civil lawsuit and maintain a secret identity?

[–]alclarkey 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm pretty sure it was Esme Bianco, the chick who played the prostitute "Roz" in game of thrones.

[–]wutangplan 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Evan Rachel Wood

I have fucking no idea why they censored that, then included it later in the article though

[–]Firewalker1969x[S] 79 points80 points81 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Most frustrating thing is "Manson has not been charged with any crime connected to the alleged incidents. A representative for the goth singer has repeatedly denied all accusations of sexual assault."

So they want money, not justice. Second, they had to throw in a completely and totally unrelated incidence of him and a videographer getting into a fight, what the hell does that have to do with any of this?

[–]OctaviaPinfold 24 points25 points26 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Every article operates like that, they want to put substance where there's none so fillers are used. It's also a good way to sway public opinion, they're implying that because somebody's attacked on multiple fronts, they must be guilty. Prosecutor's fallacy or a variation of it.

[–]12Yeet34 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This quote from Goro Akechi describes damn well how they feel:
"Justice? Righteous? Keep that shit to yourselves!"

[–]lorgskyegon 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not too familiar with this case, but it may simply be a matter of burden of proof for criminal cases being impossible to meet after so long or statute of limitations running out for criminal prosecution.

[–]VincentZ6 99 points100 points101 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Another man getting his reputation ruined from false accusations with no recourse against the accuser.

[–]fanfan64 22 points23 points24 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

this made me loose half of my braincells, the world is utterly insane

[–]usku 24 points25 points26 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah, considering his music, she probably thought he was an easy mark.

Glad he has some Justice, even if it cost a lot.

[–]nnn-throwaway88 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep, and it works too. Just look at the livewire Instagram comment section

[–]Jonger1150 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Funny, haven't heard a word about the dismissal....heard quite a bit about the allegations when they were raised.

[–]ThrowawayGhostGuy1 38 points39 points40 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

This is a warning to all male celebrities to record every interaction with women and go MGTOW monk mode.

[–]DefendTheLand 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Watch it. Last time I said that I was banned (can only assume that because the mods never answered my request to give a reason)

[–]SpookeyClown 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's because MGT*W is considered a hate group by the mods.

[–]DefendTheLand 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I wasn’t even a fan of the sub!

EDIT: they banned me

[–]OctaviaPinfold 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean, it's not over yet:

While the judge tossed out the lawsuit, the woman has 20 days to amend
and file a new complaint if her attorneys can provide more facts to get
around the statute of limitations.

Not sure what they can pull out of their asses to explain away the many issues with alleged repressed memories but I feel like they can come up with some ridiculous thing and make it work. Manson is rich, that's plenty of incentive for her and her attorneys to bullshit their way through it.

Anyway, it's a he said, she said situation, however can convince the court wins, not whoever's telling the truth.

[+]Spydiggity19 points 4 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm totally willing to believe this guy is a scumbag, but these girls weren't with him for a few hours or days. One of them was with him for 4 years. Another was engaged to the guy. The fuck?

[–]Ninja_Arena 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm totally willing to listen and believe it as well. Whether there is enough evidence for criminal or civil or social justice or it's actually true, is another issue entirely.

[–]Largedragon666 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

When there is a case agains't a male there will always be the feminist brigade here to back her false claims up.

[+][deleted] 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

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[–]bufedad 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

This is a false accusation because she can't even state what she's actually accusing him of.

[+]EnvironmentalWar4627 -26 points-25 points-24 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Agreed. No trial needed. Guilty until proven innocent is a better justice system for everyone.

[–]bufedad 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

She had a trial. Saw a judge and everything. He dismissed it because she couldn't even say what she was accusing him of doing.

[+]EnvironmentalWar4627 -15 points-14 points-13 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

That's my point. We don't need a conviction. She's a false accuser with or without a trial. I'm so over all these people insisting we need evidence to call someone a false accuser or a rapist. We just need to go with our guts and our guts all say she's a liar.

[–]bufedad 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

She's a false accuser with or without a trial.

She had a trial.

[+]EnvironmentalWar4627 -12 points-11 points-10 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

She was not convicted of false accusations. But in my mind she's guilty. I don't need a trial for that. And you shouldn't either. Stop trying to defend her.

[–]bufedad 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

She was not convicted of false accusations

Correct, her lawsuit was dismissed because she couldn't even say what she was accusing him of... Or do you keep missing that part?

[+]EnvironmentalWar4627 -7 points-6 points-5 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. Clear guilt. Trials are for pansies.

[–]bufedad 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You keep repeating the lie she didn’t have a trial.

[–]OldEgalitarianMRA 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's up to the prosecutor to decide things like statute of limitations, admissibility of evidence, etc. Simply missing the statute of limitations is not a false accusation. I don't know if her accusation was false or not. I don't have the evidence and, without a woman admitting guilt, it's hard to prove a false accusation.

[–]Dramatic-Seesaw-2013 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't really care about holywood celebrities. Cannot compare.

[–]Infovore777 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The part about " horrifically abused me for years" is 100% true and Manson would agree with that.It's the part about it being against her will that he will disagree with.Glad I dropped an ex before we got to this point. Actually I stopped all kinds of shit at the first sign of crazy and went vanilla with her.
She still told me I assaulted her in a text message. I was so right to cut it with her. i did not assault her and was careful all the time. They will lie to you about wanting something so that you do it trusting them meanwhile they are suffering the whole time. Then they use that as an excuse to get you in trouble to have weird power over you. IT's all twisted to fuck. These things should not go on without written contracts.

We got no oldschool Manson fans here ? Y'all remember what he was posting in various communities ? if you were into that stuff as well of course... the wild wild west of the early 2000's.

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