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UK: Woman slammed after she 'blocked' a man from using a gender neutral toilet. OP: Not much equality here.

furchfur

November 9, 2021
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10178899/Woman-slammed-blocked-man-using-gender-neutral-toilet.html
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Title UK: Woman slammed after she 'blocked' a man from using a gender neutral toilet. OP: Not much equality here.
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furchfur

Upvotes 289
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Date November 9, 2021 9:12 AM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/qpzt5f/uk_woman_slammed_after_she_blocked_a_man_from/
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Comments

[–]mistralol 98 points99 points100 points 4 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

Ok so make it equal. Allocate the same amount of space for female and male toliets. Then you find out that men's toliets can fit about 2-3x the amount of facilities in them because men are prepared to basically stand shoulder to sholuder with each other when they are taking a piss.

What the women discussing here fail to realize that the men's toliet at a concert / festival is typically something like a trench.... eg like this https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-a-very-long-urinal-in-the-mens-toilets-at-the-allianz-stadium-moore-92469980.html

So when you see comments like "'Shouldn't they all be gender neutral?" well sure.... if you want you can try lol..... just be careful you don't fall in..... its kinda hard to equalize anatomy... cause its reality and there are practicle differences. The women commenting as per usual have not really though about what they are saying.....

Men typically are typically prepared to give up some of their privacy to pee and in turn they don't have to queue. I don't see any of the women discussing this option in any of their comments.....

To be frankly honest. Women need to go solve their own toileting problems if its a problem for them. Only one thing men will do is "don't mess ours up" cause the moment you start to make us queue to use unisex toliets is the same moment we will go outside and start making our our toliet round the back of the building.... simply because "we can" and "we will" and because we won't tolerate it.

Its the same old story with equality. In order to level the playing field. Rather than pull women up. They want to handicap / disable men in order to make them equal. eg implement unisex toliets so men would now have to queue equallity with the women rather than just go solve the queueing problem for women.

[–]DanteLivra 57 points58 points59 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

But peeing while standing up is a tool of the patriarchy that keeps women into being submissive and seeking for the male gaze 💅

Therefore I hereby declare you canceled.

[–]willbeonekenobi 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh No! Anyway....

[–]BinodBoppa 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The only option now is they stand and pee like dogs/s

[–]The_Kids_Lying 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If they made everything unisex, they'd just continue to complain about pee on the toilet seat or the seat being up.

Sidenote: as a man with chronic stomach issues and frequently has to sit down on public toilets, I always wipe down and put up the seat in unisex toilets. If a woman follows, I know she'll be mad that she has to touch the seat, but at least it's clean. If I left it down and 5 guys follow and don't have the decency to lift the seat when they pee, she will have to wipe it down before sitting. Better to lower a clean seat than clean a dirty one imo

[–]wrekd 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Bitches be fat-phobic gossipers way worse then men. They need privacy because women are fucking brutal to each other.

[–]CasualSmurf 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Whilst mens toilets can accommodate more men at once I think it's important to note that not all men are comfortable pissing right beside someone else. May not be true for everyone but for me, if there are 3 free urinals but some dude takes up the middle then I'm not using the ones right next to him. I consider it basic urinal etiquette to leave a gap between each person. Also helps reduce secondary splash back. So there might be 5 free urinals but in my view that means there's only 3 available.

[–]FeierInMeinHose 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There are still 5 available, it’s just that the filling order is to leave a urinal between another occupant until that is no longer possible.

[–]mistralol 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Well yeah there are rules which are "understood" between men and when those rules can be broken.

Like this... https://www.reddit.com/r/terriblefacebookmemes/comments/akx34p/checkmate_women_you_cant_understand_this_because/

[–]ohisama 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Is there any reason partitions can not be installed between the urinals?

[–]mistralol 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Thats quite a common setup in more upmarket bars, restraunts etc...

[–]ohisama 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We accept a lot of weird things under the label of upmarket or sophisticated.

[–]MrSalvos 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Unless it's a emergency and no other way I try to leave a gap,

[–]Alternative_Swan4969 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

let me start by saying i don’t agree with the woman in the article either

although i see your point here and agree that it’s difficult to equalize anatomy, it’s not that big of a problem if you put some effort into it.

all of the bathrooms at my school are gender neutral (yes every single one) and i assure you nobody’s pissing outside.

there’s stalls but not walls to the “room”, i’m not exactly sure why but i believe it’s to stop students from doing stuff that’s not allowed, or so people can’t make the excuse of being scared of assault.

there also aren’t urinals, which seem somewhat unsanitary and uncomfortable to me, like situations in the image you showed. A simple toilet with a stall is universal for everyone’s needs.

for women even if they could pee with control they also need sanitary products which i’m sure almost everyone prefers to do privately with some space, and i’m sure the people next to them would want that as well.

It’s not that men are more willing to sacrifice privacy in these situations it’s that women often need it further.

[–]mistralol 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

> It’s not that men are more willing to sacrifice privacy in these situations it’s that women often need it further.

Well yes which makes it their problem not men's....

You mention school. I am guessing your are still quite young. Wait until you go to a sport match or something like a concernt / football / rugby game here where you have 25,000 men needing to take a piss after drinking 6 pints of beer each..... scalability matters......

The thing about you say about unsanitary conditions. Guys tend to piss over toliet seats. The thing about uranians is that you don't actually need to touch anything except your self bar no toliet seat, no stall door nothing.... just washing your hands and a simple sensor resolves that. So I think your opinion on unsanitary isn't based on fact or reality at all.

In fact in ANY busy venue I have been in with either unisex or seperated toliet by a few ours into the night in clubs, bars the general state of toliets is typically disgusting... even the women will state theirs is covered in pee and all sorts of crap on them.

[–]Alternative_Swan4969 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

if it’s women’s problem for menstruating then wouldn’t it be mens problem for drinking a ton of beer?

also i have been to concerts/festivals/sports events and let’s be real there is no good way to make things very clean regardless of gender. drugs, eating, alcohol, sex, whatever tf is going on people are bound to throw up, piss everywhere, etc… especially in portapoties that are warm, literally no air in there, nasty, and lacking in facilities.

my school has over two thousand students, and that’s not counting any staff. so it’s definitely not HUGE but it’s not a small scale by any means

[–]bludragon355 19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"He was not a trans woman, he was a man"

How DARE she assume their gender!

[–]Dispositionate 63 points64 points65 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I've lost count of the amount of times women have barged into men's toilets in pubs, clubs, etc - citing "you haven't got anything I haven't seen before!" and nobody said anything.

They always complain that their line is "too long", but don't seem to understand that it's a privacy issue. I've seen men accidentally go into women's toilets, genuinely accidental, and security were right in there to throw them out of the building.

[–]JaegerMoon 35 points36 points37 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I went to my wife's triathalon one time...and the women had taken over the entire men's bathroom also.

I went to walk in and some white knight prick stopped me saying "I think they need to get in there more than you do right now"...I told him to fuck off they shouldn't be in there and walked in anyway. Walked up to the urinal and started taking a piss. Women didn't give a shit, giggling and washing up. I don't think a bunch of middle aged women who probably have male children and men in their lives really give a shit about it.

I just ignored them but you know...that's safe space for us men too. I shouldn't need to fight with a white knight to get in there, and then feel self conscious because I have to take a piss and the place is full of women changing into their Tri gear.

[–]Dispositionate 37 points38 points39 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The idea that women have more of a right to use a MENS bathroom than the people it was built specifically for, is absurdly common but it wouldn't work the other way around - no matter how "urgent" the men's needs were.

And as for GN toilets, I'd probably use them purely because I CAN, not because I prefer them. Just to prove the point that people advocate for "neutral spaces" only so far until a man wants to use it.

[–]JaegerMoon 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's exactly the problem...any type of person except a hetero male and you are good to use the GN toilets.

[–]Insidious-Sid 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"you haven't got anything I haven't seen before!"

Just because you've seen them all doesn't mean I don't like privacy!

[–]pfizerface 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The comments on the article from Mumsnet are so pathetic. They are claiming discrimination as mem have 2 options 😂

How thick are these entitled femcels? There's a urinal for quick piss. The gender neutral are there for men that need a #2.

[–]miladiashe 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

mumsnet is TERF shithole.

[–]SweatyAdvance 29 points30 points31 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Off topic, but I am sick a fucking tired of seeing women in the mens room because "the line is shorter."

NO MAN WOULD EVER BE ALLOWED IN THE WOMENS regardless of the line, so why the fuck are you in here!?!

[–]dungeonmonkey69 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Here here!

[–]hailtotheking999 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Apparently we aren't even allowed in the gender neutral bathrooms either

[–]JaggedGreen88 32 points33 points34 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Either the lady or the writer can't keep their story straight. One minute they're gender neutral, next time time its ladies only.

If they were legitimately GN then she deserved to be turned on. Her actions were a typical display of female privilege. Especially when she called another woman to come ahead of him. She had no place and no right to do so.

If they were ladies only then she was in the right and dude should have gone to the mens.

Assuming she was correct labeling him "drunk" I'd also like to point out this is a great example of men needing to be more aware in public places. Go out, have a good time, drink. But not so much you can't tell the ladies for the gents restrooms.

This probably makes me sound transphobic but I'm not really for blanket GN bathrooms. I think it should be men, women, and GN. With the last being open to anyone who wants to use them.

[–]Skinnyguy202 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don’t think that’s transphobic (although a lot of people will label you that). That seems fair 🤷🏽‍♂️

[–]p3ngwin 19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

of course, the comments are "he's a creep" because he's a man, how typically misandrist of these witches.

[–]Skinnyguy202 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Men have men bathrooms Women have women bathrooms

Also, how do women complain about men going in their bathroom calling them perverts and worry about the little girls in their, yet, they feel all the entitlement to go in the men’s?

[–]bilgediver 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

that entire story just seems weird. I think there's something missing from the story here.

are the "mens" toilets just a urinal? Maybe he had to poop?

[–]JaegerMoon 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Same thing happened to me at a mall here in Toronto area. Walked in to the gender neutral bathrooms...20 women giving me the evil eye. Had to piss and don't give a fuck...walked into the individual enclosed toilet, took a piss. Came out, more evil eyes as I wash my hands...fuck you bitches.

Note: I hadn't considered it until I went in there...but with a men's only bathroom I never ever have to touch a public toilet seat. In a gender neutral bathroom...I have to touch the seat every time since they are all down 99.999% of the time. Fucking gross.

[–]FakeLaundry 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

As a woman, I use the bottom of my shoe to push down the flusher if it's not automatic. Maybe you could use the bottom of your shoe to lift and close? Hope that helps because that is gross to have to do that.

[–]JaegerMoon 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Thanks, its a suggestion.

Regardless of all the above...I hate to put my dirty shoe where another person may have to come along and sit there. I may buy one of those brass door closer things that go on your keychain.

[–]FakeLaundry 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Understandable. That makes sense too.

[–]Reaper621 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Flip the lid with the tip of your shoe.

[–]Whystare 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow! What a news worthy incident.

[–]KurashiDragon 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

So I read through the story and I'm not really sure what to think about this. Like did they make the Ladies room gender neutral or is there a Men's Ladies and Gender neutral bathroom? This site is vague on that and I'm not sure if I should care or not. If they just made the ladies room gender neutral, I actually think she did the right thing here. If there are three bathrooms, I have no qualms about calling the woman here an asshole. Like, "there's the men's like right there." Ok so what? if you're that concerned about a man being in the gender neutral line, find the women's line and cry about it to someone who cares.

[–]majestic_tapir 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean, she made it real damn difficult to find out what venue she went to. Fuck knows why, it's not that hard to just name drop a venue so that the venue knows something is wrong.

[–]DubsPackage 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If it's a gender neutral toilet then it's a gender neutral toilet, anybody has a right to use it, for any reason or for no reason.

Who made you the toilet police?

Ppl who make a big deal about toilet use are karens, look a toilet is just a hole with water in it, it doesn't care what junk you have.

Not having enough women's toilets is a seperate issue.

[–]jinladen040 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just further proof that Gender Neutral Restrooms are creating more crime. Just like that Girl that got raped in a Gender Neutral Bathroom in Virginia by a Boy wearing a Skirt.

And what we're seeing here is more poor Liberal Policy. The same Liberal Policy that gave women more rights than us.

[–]Insidious-Sid 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This kind of thing makes me want to sneak into women's toilets, take a massive three-coil anaconda-sized shit, use a 1/2 roll of toilet paper, and leave the toilet seat up on the whole unholy pile of misery.

[–]Smokey_Stevens18 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I have laughed harder at this comment than I probably should have

[–]Insidious-Sid 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah. If you get my sense of humour you're one twisted little kitten... ;-)

[–]willbeonekenobi 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wonder how far this would have gone if no gender neutral bathroom and she wanted to use the mens room. I don't know about other men but I wouldn't give more than 2 shits if a woman comes in, does her business and leaves if the que to the womens restroom is long and slow (probably because based on what I've heard and sometimes have seen they tend to chit-chat more and tend to go in groups even though only 1 or two in the group need it).

[–]Rol9x 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not really my problem, to be honest. They asked for it, they need to live with it. I am not worried about using the toilet and I can't wait for a pervert to say anything wrong to me.

[–]ApprehensivePrice552 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What if the guy had to take a shit?

[–]Welder1919 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Going off the title for this loan I thought gender-neutral bathrooms were for everybody not just men not just women not just non-binary people not male to female trans people not female to male trans people but everyone?

[–]NoC2H6OnlyGas 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She was never once "slammed" but only verbally critiqued. I don't feel sorry for her anymore

[–]MrSalvos 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why was she soooo fucking vague I don't know if it was a ladies room or gender neutral room. If it was ladies 100% right to tell him to fuck of GN she had no right to fuck off, maybe the men's didn't have shitters and he needed to shit .

[–]Alternative_Swan4969 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

the whole point of a gender neutral bathroom is that all genders can use it. plus how did she know the person was a man? it would be awfully rude to tell someone to go to the mens bathroom if that’s not where they wanted to go.

of course we all get angry when there’s a line for something but no single one of us is entitled to first place, regardless of gender. 1 more person in line should be at most a 5 minute wait

i wouldn’t necessarily say this is a mens rights issue, but it’s definitely a human decency issue lmao.

[–]420Riffs 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Actually one of the biggest reasons womens bathrooms have queues is because a lot of them use the mirror, makeup, fix their hair, chat with the friend they went in with, etc.

[–]nosleepincrooklyn 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

*taps head

More stalls means more places to do blow

[–]datfunnymeme 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Da fuq? Ivread the article. She said, she broke the lines and went ahead and when she was done she called other women to do so too... Wtf? Those men shouldn't have allowed her to do so. They are breaking the rules and getting away with their propogsndas... Men we need to speak up.

[–]Historical_Draw_9923 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Observe that the entitled "thing" did the same thing they do to transgender women, labeled the guy a "creep," which is female code for pervert or rapist.

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