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Please take care men…

chakamaki

November 26, 2021
22 upvotes
/r/Divorce_Men

a dad got killed to pickup his son

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Title Please take care men…
Author

chakamaki

Upvotes 22
Comments 18
Date November 26, 2021 12:35 AM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/Divorce_Men
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/Divorce_Men/comments/r2ambe/please_take_care_men/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/Divorce_Men/please-take-care-men.1086526
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Comments

[–]Orlando1701 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

This… is why the ex and I always do public exchanges. When we were married she used to threaten to call the cops and tell them I was beating on here. The funny part is that literally 100% of the physical abuse was from her (and her sister) against me. Yup. Everything is done in public during daylight hours because she’s a dumb dumb bitch.

[–]Creative-Drop1816 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is 100% facts:

I had it set up where pick up and drop offs are done at the kids school and in a designated public place in the summer time and Holidays.

The school year pick ups are amazing, I can go months without having to see my Ex and I don't have to have the stupid arguments.

[–]NothingIsEverEnough 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This will go down as self defense.

[–]MrPeanutbutter22 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He had a court order to pick his kid at the property. Neither the wife nor her affair partner are biologically related to the kids. The guy went in where it was safe and brought out a deadly weapon.

[–]Chip512 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

In a Texas license to carry class an instructor summed up a justified shooting “you will likely be tried, it’ll cost you everything you have, and you may still go to jail”. Someone yelling at you on your property in Texas doesn’t seem to be a good justification for the use of deadly force. Doesn’t help the dead guy however there may be some surprises in store for the shooter.

[–]gthyr666 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

the laywers win at the end lol. Must be nice

[–]Orlando1701 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The one guy grabbing the gun kind of changes things. In all likelihood they’ll say the one dude was on his own property and the other dude grabbed his gun. He’ll walk.

[–]MrPeanutbutter22 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It if the guy had a court order to pick up his kids from that location then surely he had no choice but to be there. I’m fuming. A man. A father was murdered in front of his children. The wife and her affair partner have no biological relation to the children either. Horrible.

[–]dainbramaged0801 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Reading all of this makes me so thankful I never had kids with my abusive ex wife

[–]crowexplorer 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh for sure. She tells the new stepdad that you're an abusive monster, he buys it hook,line & sinker, and proceeds to white knight for m'lady, resulting in an incident like this video. Risky business.

[–]BlessedAFx777 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yup.

[–]ninjafudo12 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I guess guy fucked around and found out.

[–]BlessedAFx777 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

When will you guys learn no matter WHAT age you are, STAY AWAY FROM SINGLE MOMS. Don’t even fuck them. THIS, is exhibit A of ONE of the very many things that can happen if you get involved with one.

I don’t care how good her pussy MIGHT be, STAY AWAY FROM HER.

[–]jalopkoala 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Tall guy grabbed short guy’s gun, so I think that’s it. Self defense.

I wish we lived in a world where: 1) you felt threatened 2) you went into the home where it was safer 3) you came back out… now you just moved yourself from safer to less safe 4) no longer self defense

Is it possible that without short getting his gun that tall could have beat short to death? Sure. But probably not. Call me crazy but I would take my getting my ass kicked and us both living over the other guy dying.

I understand not everyone agrees with me on this. I also don’t know the context. Maybe tall had been threatening ex and new short guy for ages and authorities wouldn’t step in. That happens. Also possible ex and new short guy engineering the whole situation to kill him.

[–]Creative-Drop1816 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I agree, this is going to be self defense. This is in Texas and he came on to another man's property then threatened to take his self defense weapon away from him and kill him with it.

I got to completely disagree with you on this. The short guy is definitely trained and probably prior military. The way he is holding the firearm he is preparing for the guy to try and take it. He follows a clear escalation of force.

He tried talking sense into him:

Shout: He shouted at the man to tell him to get off of his property Show: shows the tall man that he is in fact armed and is willing to escalate force to the death if necessary. Shove: he pushed the man back while holding his rifle Shoot to warn: short guy then shot a single round into the deck near the tall guys feet and created a reactionary gap. Shoot to kill: the tall man continues to yell obscenities and advances toward the short guy after he had previously told him he would take the firearm from him and kill him with it. Two rounds to the chest and room temperature challenge accepted.

This is the exact protocol we use in the military to justify use of force. He hit all 5 elements.

I totally understand people's confusion with guns and use of force. We wish everyone could get along, but unfortunately that is not the option sometimes.

I also think short guy might have been able to take the tall guy hand to hand, but that is also a risk that you need to be willing to take. For people who don't fight often or ever they don't realize that an ass kicking can quickly escalate to death. All it takes is that tall guy to get the upper hand for a split second and it could have easily been the other way around with or without a weapon.

This is a good example of how not to handle child custody issues. That I think we can both agree on.

[–]MrPeanutbutter22 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He had a court order to pick up his kid from that location. Wouldn’t that help?

[–]crowexplorer 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Shoot to kill: the tall man continues to yell obscenities and advances toward the short guy after he had previously told him he would take the firearm from him and kill him with it. Two rounds to the chest and room temperature challenge accepted.

What about shooting him in the leg? Wasn't that an option?

[–]Creative-Drop1816 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nope. If he charges you and you shot him in the leg and he is able to overpower you...you are dead. Shooting to wound is much more difficult than non-shooters realize. It takes years of practice to be that good, and you have to constantly go and practice at a gun range to maintain that skill.This is why shooting to wound is not trained. Shooting is a daminishable skill.

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