How some feminists victim-blame suicidal men by bringing up suicide methods

Sorry-Difference5942 · 2022-02-09T00:58:05+00:00

Fair warning I didn't watch the video but I have a very strong feeling this comment aligns with what's being said.

One of the times I've most palpably felt what little respect I had for my ex fall away was when she brought up suicide methods as a form of toxic masculinity.

She was often suicidal herself, hell I was suicidal when I was with her so you think she would have known better. Nope, she went on an actual rant about how the last mark men often left on the world was one of horror and gore that some poor soul would be traumatized by. In her worldview, suicidal women did not often display this selfishness because they used methods that weren't as, well, "messy".

Literally her thought process was that men were socialized to be so selfish, even in death, that their very method of ending their life was chosen out of ignorance for others, and how it proved that femininity was morally superior to masculinity even in death. She didn't say that last part - she'd never admit to believing it... but it was clear where her feelings lay.

I think I managed to wrestle together one coherent sentence before it struck me that she had literally no empathy for male mental health and I was only going to feel worse the longer I was around her.

Reaper12543 · 2022-02-08T15:26:10+00:00

This is a very important topic since feminists often white wash male suicide by putting the blame on masculinity and male socialization and concluding that we just need to tell boys to be more emotional and cry more

trying to change the method men use to kill themselves is perhaps the dumbest suicide prevention strategy ever

comfy_cure · 2022-02-09T05:09:05+00:00

This is already codified in law too. A court criticized and criminalized my previous suicidal behavior. In a clause added to a restraining order saying that if I ever attempted suicide again I would be punished.

That behavior didn't happen before I was abused, and no fact-finding or evidence was used to determine if it was even true. When I reported rape to the police during *my testimony of the crimes committed against me* the detective asked me if I had been suicidal, it was not followed up with another question to determine the cause of the behavior, because the cause was established just by being male.

duhhhh · 2022-02-09T16:55:31+00:00

There is also a narrative that men kill themselves more because they use more violent ways like guns and women are more considerate of those that have to clean up the mess so they use less effective means. Men are more likely to succeed with every form of suicide. They want to end it badly.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0165032711005179

Interesting_Doubt_17 · 2022-02-09T15:24:25+00:00

These people who use those arguments/talking points are very U.S.-centric.

Ethyrean · 2022-02-14T01:45:38+00:00

Maybe they think the fact that more men complete suicide is threatening to the narrative that women's lives are much harder than men's, so they've (perhaps unconsciously) tried to find a way to delegitimize male suicide.

gratis_eekhoorn · 2022-02-09T11:40:31+00:00

"some"

Zinziberruderalis · 2022-02-12T22:40:35+00:00

Men are much more likely to chose suicide methods that work.

Title	How some feminists victim-blame suicidal men by bringing up suicide methods
Author	Reaper12543
Upvotes	37
Comments	16
Date	February 8, 2022 3:22 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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