what are some good responses to some of these common rebuddles

AspirationsOfFreedom · 2022-06-02T21:05:18+00:00

My answer when the convo is clearly not gonna end well: Women try to suicide more often. Men are just naturally better at everything, so we succeed more.

Seriously: the largest killer amongst men under 45 is suicide. Isn't it at least worth your time to concider that belitteling that or trying to push "your method" might not work, considering the massive increases in suicides over the last decades?

For the false rape one: studies indicates 8-10% of reported cases brought to the police are fake. And more recient studies suggest around 30-60% of cases are ever reported. But one would think most who falsly accuse a person wouldn't want to go to the police. It's an action brought by many reasons, but one wouldn't want police involvement. My ex did this, for a few minutes of attention, and folded her claims like a wet napkin when the police brought my case and my evidence to her door.

Self image: just go to any women dominated group and look up what they say regarding mens apperances. Shits fucked up.

Fearless-File-3625 · 2022-06-02T22:22:31+00:00

Feminist: self image issue that men have with themselves are only perpetuated by other men, like wanting to be tall, strong, broad-shouldered, or other "hyper-masculine" features.

These hyper masculine features are common in media that specifically cater to women because women are attracted to men with these features.

Ask them if they they really think that men would be hitting gym if women predominantly liked fat/skinny men. Ask them if self image issues in women are caused by other women or by men.

DavidByron2 · 2022-06-02T20:43:03+00:00

"Wage gap" as a phrase is hate speech. It's a sexist lie created to malign a birth group.

It doesn't compare like with like to falsify the numbers. Feminists demand women be paid for work they don't do.

And when you do compare like with like disadvantaged groups often earn more anyway. Lesbians earn more than straight women for example. Black women earn more than white (when equated for education level). So-called wage gap is often greater in Western style countries than third world countries precisely because women have more choices in Western countries.

According to women's business groups women account for spending 80% of consumer purchases. Men working harder than women isn't discrimination against women, but against men.

ignatztempotypo · 2022-06-02T21:47:21+00:00

(rebuttal)

g1455ofwater · 2022-06-03T01:05:59+00:00

Men's issues are not only perpetuated by other men, that's a lie. Even if that were true only a misandrist would try to use that as an excuse to deny help to men. The only way to believe women attempt suicide more is to believe women are significantly more incompetent than men to fail at it so much. I haven't seen studies that show that level of incompetence from women.

Murders don't happen that often in many places, should they be ignored based on that? Obviously not. Victims of many crimes are afraid to come forward. Without evidence against them people are supposed to be favored that is how the justice system works. Discussing crime sentencing is almost impossible with a dishonest person, you have to be able to see things from an overall perspective to have a meaningful resolution to that issue since it's subjective.

John_Volker88 · 2022-06-02T23:38:09+00:00

The false accusations one I just say " well if they don't happen that often does that not show how serious the consequences are because it's exactly because of these evil women that real victims arent believed"

63daddy · 2022-06-03T09:37:34+00:00

Men a falsely accused of rape: Point to studies showing it’s over %

Pink Tax: no such thing. No state imposed an additional tax specifically on female products. Some states exempt hygiene products from the sales tax, sine don’t. A sales tax is not a pink tax.

Wage gap. Measured by the BLS, the BLS itself specifically states the wage gap dies not compare equal work. The equal pay act makes it illegal to pay women less for equal work.

ThumpingBump · 2022-06-03T10:31:42+00:00

Feminist: that's because mens issues are only perpetuated by other men and women actually try to kill themselves more often then men but often fail, also women have a higher rate of depression than men.

When you survive an attempt it's likely you are going to try again at some point.

Feminist: this actually doesn't happen often and infact most rape victims are afraid to come forward because with little to no evidence courts tend to favor men, and even those convinced only tend to go to prison for a couple of months

It still happens and the percentage of it in America has a possibility of reaches 92% of all cases. The truth is, we don't actually know how many are false or true because near 90% are dismissed due to lack of evidence from either party.

self image issue that men have with themselves are only perpetuated by other men, like wanting to be tall, strong, broad-shouldered, or other "hyper-masculine" features.

These standards are perpetuated only by vein people, this isn't wether men or women perpetuate it more... it's that a minority of both perpetuate it.

rahsoft · 2022-06-03T13:42:10+00:00

Me: why do you think that most suicides are committed my men

Feminist: that's because mens issues are only perpetuated by other men and women actually try to kill themselves more often then men but often fail, also women have a higher rate of depression than men.

because those are suicide attempts, not suicide. it's not a competition. .. and also more attempts just mean under the domestic abuse law possible coercion of partner. eg threatening to attempt suicide is considered domestic abuse in order to prevent their partner from leaving the relationship..

for wage gap issue

look up thomas sowell. he debunked this back in the 70s when he pointed out that the measurement of equal pay should be done between married women and single women.. theres your pay gap..

I'm going to add online abuse of women which feminists have decided it done by men. Yet a report done by demos and funded/supported by jimmy wales( Wikipedia) and yvette cooper ( uk labour MP) found that it was women abusing other women online. cooper clearly embarrassed by her gaffe then went on to claim internalised misogyny.....

Aggressive_Fig8956 · 2022-06-03T00:05:39+00:00

I'm not replying to this post anymore so y'all gotta sit and think about it.

Aggressive_Fig8956 · 2022-06-02T22:40:45+00:00

Women are actually more likely to be depressed and 71% of the victims of human trafficking are women. Some of them are in brothels and go look up the pictures if you want. Or maybe you want to go watch the trailer of 'the day my god died'. Or 'call + response'. Because if you aren't learning you're just finding reasons to fit you're own bias.

Financial_Window_990 · 2022-06-04T00:29:40+00:00

Women do NOT attempt more often, women fail and end up in the hospital more often. When you add failed and successful attempts together, the rate is 3-1 male.

Title	what are some good responses to some of these common rebuddles
Author	Various_Strain5693
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Date	June 2, 2022 8:34 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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