Senate version of the NDAA 2023 includes women registering for the draft. Adding them will be the quickest way to end the draft since nobody cares when only men have to register.

Razorbladekandyfan · 2022-06-16T14:47:10+00:00

We need to rectify this inequality and make the draft registration gender neutral. Then we probably need to abolish it. But one thing is certain. Its never getting abolished if its male only.

galacticdude7 · 2022-06-16T15:42:27+00:00

Good. It was bullshit that when I turned 18 that I had to register for the draft or face felony charges or not getting FAFSA money to go to college. I don't think we should have a draft, military service should only be done by people who willingly acknowledge and accept the risks of such service, but if we must have a draft then women should be forced into it too.

lastfreethinker · 2022-06-16T15:57:11+00:00

It is going to get dropped for something else. This happens all the time and every year. DEMs add it REBs get their underwear in a twist and negotiate for something the DEMs want to remove it.

The DEMs add it because they know the REBs don't want it and the DEMs place no actual value in it so it is an easy gimmie in negotiations.

matrixislife · 2022-06-16T18:55:05+00:00

It might be very useful to see who is putting this element of the bill in place, and who argues to get rid of it. A lot of politicians seem to be making hay from the arguments, and it'd be nice to know who's telling the truth here.

Peptocoptr · 2022-06-16T23:15:09+00:00

I never liked the idea of drafting women because it's not a good comprimise. When a demographic has thier freedom stripped away to put thier lives put at risk in a horrific warzone for the game of the rich, the solution isn't to inflict that burden onto all adult demographics. It's to remove it completely. I'm not willing to settle for anything less than the abolishment of conscription, so learning that women are to be drafted too wasn't good news to me at all.

That was until I read the title... You do make a good point. People might finally give a shit now.

Juhnthedevil · 2022-06-16T19:03:34+00:00

So it is getting voted or it was already?

Andreomgangen · 2022-06-17T13:00:32+00:00

This is one of the issues where I feel the fight for equality can not only get a bit silly, but also one where the risk of hostile countries exasperating the issue is the largest.

So bit of a backnote I live on a country that has female draft, and what it has done is raised endless logistical issues. Issues like having to have 2 of every hygiene setup, bunks etc etc.

Also women on the whole even if trained the same remain weaker than men by a good margin. A battalion is only as strong,quick as its weakest link, as Pentagon studies has suggested this means a 15% reduction in effectivity across the entire armed forces. This is a massive number in a field where we are talking about the life or death of nations.

As for the draft we have actually reduced it year by year, so now only a small percentage of youth go through it, where it was at one point 100%

We border Russia, and now the fact that our military is no longer fit for purpose (a.k.a 3 day halt of Russian forces) which our military expert's has warned us about for years, is coming back to bite us in the ass, as Russia is threatening our other neighbors with invasion, sabotaging our oceanic cables, turning off our GPS systems for domestic flights, running fighter and bomber over our borders

We have basically let the fight for gender equality ruin our forces, and with it our ability to defend our nation. The army and the draft isn't some sort of game, it's real and it's never in modern history been more important as the 21st century draws us towards a third world war.

Now get this, I am all for drafting everyone, if that means 100% of the population. Women have shown themselves to be fantastic snipers and guerilla fighters in previous wars. So make own battalions for them, so they don't slow down the male battalions.

As an end note, when I see people in here talking about the end of the draft as some sort of end goal, it makes me wonder if they either live in Disneyland due to the immensity of their naivety of the world we live on, or if they are paid shills from Russia trying to subvert nations ability to defend themselves.

Please don't become as narrow minded and spitefully destructive to our nation's, just for the sake of twisted principles as feminism has become, we need to be better both realistic and fair.

SoulsDesire4Freedom · 2022-06-16T16:25:14+00:00

This kind of mental gymnastics is what got Women trapped in corporate wage slave exploitation. It always works to drag both men and women further down rather ease any pressures. Definitely will backfire in the midst of the military industrial complex pursuing escalation rather peaceful end to the Donbass dispute.

RhinoNomad · 2022-06-19T00:29:39+00:00

I'm hoping that this passes from an egalitarian perspective, but I'm also hoping there's a bit of a backlash (especially considering how increasingly isolationist many people are becoming) and we end up abolishing the draft in it's entirety.

It's time for war to end. Period.

randomfrog42069 · 2023-11-28T20:53:34+00:00

I hate that this it what it took, but I think this is the way to abolish the draft.

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