In the United States, if a gf rapes a bf and the gf gets a kid because of the rape, does the bf have to pay child support?

63daddy · 2022-07-15T01:36:58+00:00

I’ve read cases of boys who were victims of statutory rape later having to pay child support.

Example:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/09/02/statutory-rape-victim-child-support/14953965/

duhhhh · 2022-07-15T02:02:19+00:00

In most states.

After Hermesmann v Seyer set the precedent, courts around the country have decided that male victims of women owe the perpetrators child support for decades, while other precedents (Roe v Wade) and laws (safe haven laws) generally allow female victims many options to get rid of the product of their rapes.

Hermesmann successfully argued that a woman is entitled to sue the father of her child for child support even if conception occurred as a result of a criminal act committed by the woman.

E.g.

Alabama man - https://law.justia.com/cases/alabama/court-of-appeals-civil/1996/2950025-0.html

Arizona boy - https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/09/02/statutory-rape-victim-child-support/14953965/

California boy - https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1996-12-22-9612220045-story.html

Others in this paper "Victims with responsibilities" -https://lawpublications.barry.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1017&context=cflj

There are many others out there. I do not believe there has yet been a single case where a boy or man has gotten out of paying child support to an adult woman that statutory raped, raped, sperm jacked, etc.

The good news is that in recent years feminist lobbiests have pushed for laws to prevent rapists from getting child custody. Without custody the child wouldn't be raised by a rapist and the victim wouldn't owe child support. So the day that a male doesn't owe his perpetrator may be coming soon. The less good news is that just over half the states that passed these laws passed them as the feminist lobbiests proposed them - only preventing rapist fathers from getting custody. (https://www.ncsl.org/research/human-services/parental-rights-and-sexual-assault.aspx)

Terrell v Torres recently set a precedent and invalidated a signed contract to let a woman use embryos created with her ex and have him owe child support.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona/2019/03/18/arizona-court-ruling-use-preserved-embryos-without-ex-husbands-consent-ruby-torres/3205867002/

Courts have ruled the same way in Illinois and the US supreme court agreed.

http://www.fathers4equality-australia.org/fathers-rights/woman-wins-custody-of-embryos-after-separation/

In several other cases women who forged her ex's signature to implant have been awarded child support from the unwilling father. E.G. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5687477/Ex-husband-ordered-pay-child-support-former-wife-forged-signature-undergo-IVF.html

Even if consensual sex happened, reproductive coersion of men isn't rare...

approximately 10.4% (or an estimated 11.7 million) of men in the United States reported ever having an intimate partner who tried to get pregnant when they did not want to or tried to stop them from using birth control

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reproductive_coercion

American talk shows for women encourage women to stop birth control without telling their partner with the applause of their audiences.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=5CNHwhHWPoQ

Then there is IVF with sperm taken from a condom without the man's consent...

https://www.mommyish.com/woman-steals-ex-boyfriends-sperm-has-twins-sues-for-child-support-836/

Or when they only engage in oral sex which should have no pregnancy risk ...

https://rollingout.com/2014/02/04/woman-uses-sperm-oral-sex-get-pregnant-force-man-pay-child-support/

Or court orders mandating men give their wife sperm so they can impregnate themselves during divorce proceedings...

https://theprint.in/judiciary/court-orders-man-to-donate-sperm-to-estranged-wife-who-says-no-time-for-2nd-marriage/255215/

dw87190 · 2022-07-15T02:20:28+00:00

Yes, your nation has precedent for allowing that, and forcing a child raped by a pedo to pay her for the child she had after raping him

KMKEEPS · 2022-07-15T02:36:29+00:00

In most states yes the guys on the hook for child support and if an older women has sex with a minor and has a child, the day he turns 18 hes on the hook for child support most of the time.

Aimless-Nomad · 2022-07-15T03:30:59+00:00

Yes.

Fast-Mongoose-4989 · 2022-07-15T05:02:01+00:00

EastPAchefinNJ · 2022-07-15T03:01:34+00:00

sTuNnInG aNd BrAvE!!! (s)

Honestly just sickening. Just shows that it doesn't matter if you don't have a womb, you must have wanted it, even as a child, and therefore you best pay up. And this little piggy went to court and got raped again and again and again.

AndyBrown65 · 2022-07-15T08:07:19+00:00

Absolutely !

Lots of examples of pedophile female teachers having sex with a 15 yo student, she gets pregnant, she gets charged, courts issue a pussy pass, Johnny Poindexter ends up with a CS claim

anoncitizen4 · 2022-07-15T11:59:49+00:00

Generally yes. Right or wrong, the courts look at it as paying to support the child who was innocent/ also a victim of the initial crime.

capitanMorgan89 · 2022-07-15T08:52:47+00:00

Disturbing

introspectthis · 2022-07-15T16:14:44+00:00

The sheer amount of referenced examples just.. off of the tops of people's heads in this posts comments is fucking chilling

oflbtbs · 2022-07-15T01:29:12+00:00

Family law varies from state to state.

GF1386 · 2022-07-15T21:32:25+00:00

I really struggle with men who say they are raped by women. I know I’m old but geez.

DavidByron2 · 2022-07-15T17:59:55+00:00

Yes.

Even if there's no such bf/gf relationship.

Even if the stranger she rapes is a child.

Assuming the woman gets custody of course - which is a fair bet even if she's sent to prison for some unrelated reason.

DirtyPartyMan · 2022-07-15T18:21:40+00:00

At least in Arizona it would seem so

New-Mind5466 · 2022-07-16T04:55:23+00:00

yeah actuallt

Accomplished_Shoe_31 · 2022-07-16T08:38:17+00:00

Yes and in Ohio they are pushing that a woman can sue a man if they get pregnant.

ChadWolf98 · 2022-07-16T23:52:16+00:00

Courts decided several times that rhey cling to the "think of the children" approach no matter what, meaning the financial need of the born children is more important then anything else

Title	In the United States, if a gf rapes a bf and the gf gets a kid because of the rape, does the bf have to pay child support?
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Date	July 15, 2022 1:26 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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