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Protect your sons, educate your daughters.

NeoNotNeo

July 22, 2022
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Title Protect your sons, educate your daughters.
Author

NeoNotNeo

Upvotes 132
Comments 24
Date July 22, 2022 9:54 PM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/w5mk4r/protect_your_sons_educate_your_daughters/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/protect-your-sons-educate-your-daughters.1125222
https://theredarchive.com/post/1125222
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Comments

[–]NeoNotNeo[S] 53 points54 points55 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In actuality, protect and educate your children.

[–]dw87190 37 points38 points39 points 4 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

Protect your sons, hold your daughters accountable when they do wrong

[+]pumpkinpeopleunite -15 points-14 points-13 points 4 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

Why would you not protect both your sons and your daughters, and hold both your sons and daughters accountable when they do wrong?

[–]dw87190 37 points38 points39 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Given the fact that I live in a nation that has only has an antipathy towards holding women and girls accountable, I think my chosen wording is understandable

[+]pumpkinpeopleunite -21 points-20 points-19 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I disagree. A lot of problems have been caused by raising girls and boys differently and you're advocating for this yo continue?

But out of interest, could you tell us which nation you live in that "only has an antipathy towards holding women and girls accountable"?

[–]dw87190 38 points39 points40 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, I'm advocating for girls to be punished in the same way that boys are growing up

I live in Australia, and the education system was and still is biased towards girls. Boys are treated as defective girls, boys never saw justice against female bullies, boys were blamed for girls bullying them, boys are told "she's only being mean because she likes you", boys are told to suck it up, boys are told it doesn't matter if they consent to girls or not, boys are told they cannot be taken advantage of when drunk because an erection counts as consent and it's only if he can't get one when drunk is he too drunk to consent, boys are told that girls never commit sexual assault, only boys do it to girls and other boys, boys are punished for being boys, a high school in Melbourne, Australia forced boys to apologise to girls for being boys. I'm advocating for boys to be treated as well as girls are in the education system. How is it that arguing against differential treatment gets me an accusation of pushing differential treatment from you?

[–]TracyMorganFreeman 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It isnt inherently an issue that boys and girls be raised differently. It's increasingly clear that boys and girls respond to and use different learning strategies.

Basically every country in the West is reluctant to hold women accountable to the same manner and degree as they do men.

[–]The_Dapper_Balrog 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Boys and girls should be raised differently. The problem is that they're not being raised that way. Boys and girls learn differently than each other, and pretty much everywhere in the world you go, you will find that boys are taught, punished, and treated as if they have no different needs than girls do. We absolutely need to raise them differently, because they don't have the same needs.

[+]ReadjustYourChi -25 points-24 points-23 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

An eye for an eye. A little revenge sexism never hurt anyone.

[–]dw87190 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Revenge sexism isn't what I had in mind. If we as MRAs stoop, we'll lose the war

[+]ReadjustYourChi -22 points-21 points-20 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Right. I guess it is inappropriate to just flip the genders of a sexist comment. We should probably not do it anymore.

[–]dw87190 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Sarcasm to prove a point, as well as identifying an actual problem created by feminism is not stooping on my part

An actual example of stooping would be responding to "all men are rapists" with "all women are rapists"

[+]ReadjustYourChi -22 points-21 points-20 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well it's obviously not sexism if you meant it ironically. Like how feminists say Kill All Men ironically. Doesn't count as real sexism.

[–]Upside_Down-Bot 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

„˙ǝɹoɯʎuɐ ʇı op ʇou ʎlqɐqoɹd plnoɥs ǝM ˙ʇuǝɯɯoɔ ʇsıxǝs ɐ ɟo sɹǝpuǝƃ ǝɥʇ dılɟ ʇsnɾ oʇ ǝʇɐıɹdoɹddɐuı sı ʇı ssǝnƃ I ˙ʇɥƃıᴚ„

[–]bigdtbone -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

aLl LiVeS mAtTeR!

[–]pumpkinpeopleunite 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Not an appropriate response dude

[–]bigdtbone -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Sorry you don’t like the person in the mirror.

[–]pumpkinpeopleunite -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How witty! I like the person in the mirror just fine, so I guess you don't and you're projecting. Sorry you hate yourself

[–]Forward-Razzmatazz18 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But what they're saying is that since people already protect their daughters and hold their sons accountable, we should also do the reverse, not saying that we SHOULDN'T do the former.

[–]ReadingHunter 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Such cases should be held like this worldwide. She should be fined too. The liar of such cases should get the same punishment as an actual assaulted would get.

[–]beleidigtewurst 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I beg to differ.

In this instance I'd rather educate my son.

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[–]bunniesaresweet 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Um all types of people get raped regardless of their sex and appearance

[–]SpookeyClown 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I imagine there is probably someone who is so gross that no one could stomach the thought of even touching them.

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