Would red pill men be more happier as Gay men?

darkskies1094trump · 2022-09-02T00:12:54+00:00

Anytime the question is "Would not gay person be happier as a gay person?" the answer is going to be "No."

Your_Agenda_Sucks · 2022-09-02T06:06:04+00:00

I'm not wired that particular way, but in fact I do envy gay men.

When a gay man has a fight with his significant other, he has the unmitigated pleasure of arguing with another man. This will be a rational disagreement, probably followed by a consensual resolution because both parties are actually interested in resolving the conflict.

Women do not want to solve problems because doing so would limit their ability to bitch and complain about inconsequential issues. The act of complaining is the main draw.

brymjack · 2022-09-02T00:33:32+00:00

Double the income and half the drama. /s

Disclaimer: this is a joke

Swingstar731 · 2022-09-02T00:40:02+00:00

Legit, I never get compliments from women or any acknowledgement. Meanwhile gay dudes are always flirting with me left and right and saying the sweetest things to me complimenting my looks, style, etc. What it has shown me is that women aren't appreciative enough of men. If gay dudes can be super nice and complimentary than so can women.

619ec · 2022-09-02T00:08:34+00:00

I would say, read more, listen more, I think your view of the red pill has much room to grow. There is more than one voice and perspective. Think of something you know/do well and your perception of a time when someone came off in a way that rubbed you wrong from their lack of knowledge or understanding.

nyarlathotep999 · 2022-09-02T22:23:18+00:00

Speaking as a red pilled gay man, I can honestly say that from my experience it is no better on the other side, much as my instinct might be to gladly invite them over. At this point in time the gay community is so brainwashed by feminist ideology that your average gay man makes hetero white knights seem like egalitarians.

And because gay men are mostly not going to engage in domestic relations with women, it is particularly hard to show them evidence of inequality faced by men in cases of family court abuses, domestic violence, and reproductive rights, since even with straight men, the best awakener tends to be personal experience. Notwithstanding the fact that the gay community as a whole seems largely anti-intellectual, reactionary, trend seeking, hedonistic, and lifestyle driven to a degree that is an extreme reflection of what is portrayed by the media to be the questionable ideal that our culture already indiscriminately guzzles.

A lot of them have been subject to abusive treatment by fathers in response to their sexual orientation so are biased against men on that count from the get go. A lot of them come from dysfunctional families where the matriarch is some flavor of abusive covert narcissist and have internalized that toxic femininity as an ideal. I see this a lot with drag queens and a certain kind of bitchy femme guy.

Most gay men are disposed to seeing the injustices they face as being a reaction to them being gay, as opposed to being men, even when the main factor is maleness over sexual orientation (eg homelessness). This is understandable given some lingering attitudes even if it is an incorrect perception.

So in conclusion, red pilled guys most likely will not find a home in the gay community even if they wanted to. God knows its a lonely place for me, and I am in fact gay.

Forcetobereckonedwit · 2022-09-02T02:16:21+00:00

If I were sexually attracted to men, it might be easier. Since I'm not, it's not.

Training-Rich5057 · 2022-09-02T12:43:51+00:00

No, we would be happier if women would act right. You know have moral, ethics, and principles. Stop making excuses for band behavior. Be actually trustworthy, loyal, faithful, and honest. No manipulation to get your way. Have their actions s match their words. This is a good start and should be the standard.

Asatmaya · 2022-09-02T00:22:22+00:00

I mean, possibly, but what do you suggest? That's not something that you can choose, AFAIK.

2022-09-02T01:40:17+00:00

Social doctrination of the last 30 years have been programing young men to be more emotional because women and other powers at be wanted it to be.

The stereotypes that women don't like emotional Men is true. You open to much to her you turn her off and if you never open up then you push her away anyways.

Men regardless if they are Red Pill aware or not are not going to be happier as a gay man.

skllyskullstyle · 2022-09-02T17:20:42+00:00

It is scientifically proven that gay men are always more happier than women in any relationship.

dzkrf · 2022-09-02T00:42:41+00:00

I think that they can certainly benefit by having gay friends, but no one should ever feel they have no choice for sex but to do something they really don't want to.

Anyone who knows me knows they can get a brotherly hug when they need one.

KDulius · 2022-09-02T23:56:17+00:00

Seeing as I'm not gay.... no

Being "red pill" (whatever the fuck you mean) doesn't mean I don't think that for most people (including myself) men and women have complimentary roles to play

StinkyUsedHole · 2022-09-02T01:52:40+00:00

Id rather be single for the rest of my days than gay with a masculine man. The idea is very repulsive. I could possibly "make the switch" to a extremely feminized man that basically tricked most people into thinking they're a women. If you look the part and you suck weeny everyday then hey, we might be able to make it work.

UnconventionalXY · 2022-09-02T05:42:09+00:00

Men who do not identify as gay have been having sex with men for a very long time.

In my opinion, men have been discouraged in exploring intimacy and sex with other men largely through conditioned homophobia, which is designed to challenge their sense of masculinity if they do. Homophobia itself is based on an incorrect assessment that all gay men are feminine and not masculine: in reality gay men span the spectrum from stereotypical feminine expression to hyper-masculine expression and everything inbetween, including men who appear just like regular men, except they like dick.

The only commonality between all gay men and women is that they like dick, however, liking dick does not necessarily mean a man is gay or feminine. Most men have not been exposed to the full range of expression of gay men: all they have likely been aware of is men behaving in a feminine manner and so that becomes their definition of a gay man whom they can't identify with as a straight man. Those men have never likely watched a gay themed program such as "Boys in the Band" or "Uncoupling" which shows some of the expressions of men, some of whom appear to be straight except for liking dick. I think many men would be shocked if they knew all the celebrities and sports men who like dick but have so far been too afraid to come out of the closet for various reasons: it's sad because men who might otherwise be encouraged by their heroes to explore another avenue are deprived of that knowledge.

Consider that homophobia and sexual orientation dissuades men from even trying to see if they like intimacy with another man, in a similar way to a child saying "I don't like that" when they haven't even tried it, simply because they don't like the idea of it because it is unfamiliar or has unpleasant connotations (such as suggesting a man is feminine).

Also consider this: when men masturbate, they are generally touching a mans body or using a mans body to touch themselves. Men have no problem with a recreational game of squash or even a contact sport with another man because they derive some enjoyment or pleasure from the activity: why should it be so different with intimacy and sex when only the smallest part of sexual activity is for procreation (which does involve a woman) and the rest for pleasure.

The world has yet to come to terms with the reality that what we think of in terms of discrete binary gender is in fact diverse in many characteristics and behaviours and there is no absolute man or woman template, only averages in many characteristics and averages over the whole.

There is no one gay man but genetic males that span a diverse range of characteristics and behaviours. I believe many men would be happier with more options in achieving life satisfaction and especially sexual fulfilment, than being held hostage by what one woman wants for herself: it has nothing to do with being gay or not.

Red pill men might be happier if they challenged more of the current misconceptions and downright manipulations and restrictions of male behaviour that are for someone elses agenda.

Net_Flux3 · 2022-09-02T00:46:42+00:00

MRAs are not "red pill men". "Red pill men" primarily view women as trophies to be won and other men as competition. They are male hostile tradcons. True MRAs denounce male hostility.

mechajutaro · 2022-09-02T02:52:05+00:00

Would red pill men be more happier as Gay men?

Paul Elam and Tom Golden pretty much spent each of their Regarding Men videos making out while the former bloviated about the lack of masculinity in modern society, and Janice Fiamengo watched from the sidelines. Elam(especially), Golden, Anthony "Dream" Johnson, and at least 3/4 of The Manosphere spent '16-20 with their mouths wrapped irremovably around Donald Trump's penis, swallowing, and taking a breather only to ask for seconds

These supposed men couldn't have been more Fag-gy, and they remain miserable, both back then and today as well

2022-09-02T19:38:48+00:00

Are all of you forgetting that gay men get shit on more than straight men? Forget women or red pill bs, being a gay man is almost always more difficult than being a straight man. I have lived both sides, and being gay doesn’t make anyone any happier, it just opens you up to more discrimination. And if you dislike ALL women so much, just be alone until you die or grow up and find a woman who matches you.

denisc9918 · 2022-09-02T03:30:55+00:00

You could just as reasonably ask, would men be happier if they were born female, or female as men.

How on earth do you think they could possibly know?

miroku000 · 2022-09-02T22:13:39+00:00

People tend to be more tolerant of undesirable behaviors in their friends than they are for their significant others. A better comparison would be the difference between confiding in your female friends versus your male friends.

Title	Would red pill men be more happier as Gay men?
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