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Why should women have shorter sentences?

HonestSetting1105

September 1, 2022
94 upvotes
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https://www.quora.com/Why-do-women-get-lighter-sentences-than-men-for-the-same-crimes
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Title Why should women have shorter sentences?
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HonestSetting1105

Upvotes 94
Comments 25
Date September 1, 2022 3:08 PM UTC
(3 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/x3a1jc/why_should_women_have_shorter_sentences/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/why-should-women-have-shorter-sentences.1130487
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Comments

[–]cbr2021 41 points42 points43 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It seems like courts treat grown up women as juvenile.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wait a minute...that means that feminism is misogynist!

[–]ExMuzzy 34 points35 points36 points 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

When women commit crimes people look into their history with a fine tooth comb to see what might have caused them to behave that way. Even if they can't find anything, they will make something up to make them more sympathetic.

There was a post on askreddit about men who've been raped by women. One thing I noticed is that when the female rapist is younger (16-19), they say that the behaviour was learnt somewhere, that the poor rapist was probably sexually abused by some male figure in her life.

When men commit crimes they don't give two shits, he must be evil.

Also, the reasons that women get shorter sentences in the UK as they have families, mental health issues, report being abused as a child, etc. can just as well be applied to men.

[–]buppyu 21 points22 points23 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

40% shorter, from what I've heard. Men are also 3.4 times as likely to face jail time for the same crimes.

People complain about the sentencing inequality between blacks and white and they should, but those differences are tiny compared to the sex differential. It's outrageously unjust.

[–]dw87190 15 points16 points17 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"You are guilty of violent murder but you're going to uni to be surgeon and I'd hate to ruin your career"

[–]sharksville 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In that case the I’d rather pick a 60 year old with arthritis to perform surgery on my left leg after that sports injury instead. One with shaky hands will do better than someone who got a slap on the wrist for horrific crimes for me

[–]NeoVidia 15 points16 points17 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Like anyone would stand up against their own privilege. But sooner or later we’ll have to acknowledge this problem.

[–]63daddy 19 points20 points21 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Certainly the women are wonder effect is part of it, but even when women are found guilty, like children they are held less responsible. There’s a overall feeling that we are supposed to be softer on women no matter what they do. If a woman hits us, we are not supposed to hit back, etc. In the end it all comes down to gynocentrism.

[–]CawlinAlcarz 11 points12 points13 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Who says women should have shorter sentences?

I know they DO get shorter and more lenient sentences, but I don't believe there is a legitimate reason for it.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Because they are adorable. I say this with a fair amount of cynicism and anger but it certainly seems to be part of the case.

[–]RefrigeratorMuch9776 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

people seem to give beautiful people a lighter sentence (i once read)

[–]Maldevinine 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women should have longer sentences. Because they live longer, each day in prison is a shorter period of their total life and therefore less of an impact on them.

[+]Rahbin_Banx -15 points-14 points-13 points 3 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

I'll be devils advocate on this one. Women tend to be more empathetic, while men tend to be more pragmatic. It could be argued it takes less time for a woman to learn her lesson than a man.

However this is actually a stupid argument. Even if it's true, a crime should offer the same consequence regardless of the criminals gender.

[–]bigdtbone 12 points13 points14 points 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Assumed multiple facts not in evidence. (1) women are more empathetic. There is literally a post on this page earlier today about an article discussing this likely being untrue.

(2) that the criminal Justice system is in anyway interested in rehabilitation rather than revenge/punishment. It’s not. Full stop.

[–]Rahbin_Banx 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Yeah it was just an assumption. I suggested that it could be argued. Not that it was my or any ones stated beliefe.

It's a stretch to say that I commended the justice system. I personally disagree with the justice system and agree with your implication that the justice system flawed.
Why no contest on men being more pragmatic?

[–]bigdtbone 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

(1) I don’t have an opinion on it; (2) I don’t think it materially contributed to the conclusion you drew about why women may have shorter sentences.

[–]Rahbin_Banx -3 points-2 points-1 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

On your second point. I was trying make an observation on the spectrum between empathy and pragmatism. How men tend to think more pragmatically, where as women tend to think more empathetically. I've heard this opinion many times and seen population pols that suggest the same.

And your first point. That's fair.

[–]bigdtbone -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I understood the comparison, but I don’t see how a perception of pragmatism would lead to longer sentences?

I understand the connection between empathy and a shorter sentence under the assumption of rehabilitation. But I don’t follow how bring pragmatic should/would/could indicate a longer sentence is appropriate.

What was your thought process for that?

[–]Rahbin_Banx 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh it's not appropriate. At all. I didn't mean to imply it was. I was merely making an attempt at that kind of thinking.

[–]bigdtbone 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

👍

[–]AskingToFeminists 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If women have shorter sentences, it's because of manterrupting.

OK, I'll se myself out.

[–]mikesteane 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women's sentences should be strictly limited. A ten word maximum should be enforced. Also there should be a compulsory ad break every three minutes.

[–]buppyu 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They shouldn't but the rules don't apply when women cry.

[–]hawkeyepitts 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women should NOT get shorter sentences. A woman can literally murder an unarmed man on video surveillance (fucking mag dump on a guy who was just verbally arguing, no weapons, no threats made). And be completely cleared of all charges by jury despite video showing her shooting him in the back while he’s scrambling away after she opened fire on him in cold blood.

Meanwhile countless people will say, “well maybe she felt threatened.” Bitch, she shot him 6+ times for standing there with his arms folded arguing! Makes me sick how a woman can get away with this, while a man would absolutely be crucified.

[–]TommorowActive 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

they shouldn't. They jat hve the right to, & men don't...wow. F*ck our world

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