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Nursery chef, 30, who claimed female bosses 'colluded' against him WINS sex discrimination case

JohnKimble111

October 13, 2022
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/r/MensRights
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11303205/Nursery-chef-30-claimed-female-bosses-colluded-against-WINS-sex-discrimination-case.html
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Title Nursery chef, 30, who claimed female bosses 'colluded' against him WINS sex discrimination case
Author

JohnKimble111

Upvotes 858
Comments 55
Date October 13, 2022 10:28 PM UTC
(3 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/y3c6zn/nursery_chef_30_who_claimed_female_bosses/
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Comments

[–]OldEgalitarianMRA 75 points76 points77 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Anti-discrimination laws apply equally to men and women.

[–]AnFGhoster 13 points14 points15 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Enforced equally is the part I question.

[–]bigez526 27 points28 points29 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

For now. I'm sure they'll change the definition of the word to exclude white men.

[–]_BlueShark87 101 points102 points103 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Good for him it seems like he got what he was owed!

[–]ne14611braska 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Owed? I'm guessing that his bosses and he didn't get on, and he won on this occasion, simply because he made cakes for everybody, most of whom were women (nursery chefs), apart from two women, who happened to be his bosses, whom he didn't like. That's the demographic, and a jolly good stance for a man to bake. To take. Even in 'low-status' roles, men get trashed by feminists, you see.

[–]XavierMalory 87 points88 points89 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Small steps, folks.

How many people here would’ve ever expected a ruling like this? I’m pleasantly surprised, and it sends a message to everyone: “Discrimination on the basis of gender is wrong and will be punished, no matter who does the discrimination… ladies.”

[–]needalife94 28 points29 points30 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd rather have small steps instead of nothing at all !!

[–]throwaway726483916 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I myself was thinkings "either that's a serious case with lots of video footage, or a darn good lawyer"

[–]hai85rul 82 points83 points84 points 3 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link

The outcome of an all women management team.

[–]jkCSred1 points 3 years ago* [recovered] (14 children) | Copy Link

Working remotely in female dominated accounting firm and it's messed up the amount of shitty, chatty, unprofessional behavior I've seen from management and partners, all the women except one. At staff and senior level you get the work higher ups give you and if one of the women in the group doesn't like you, apparently your workload shuts down. No performance recommendations or feedback of any kind, just off from the women. Luckily there's still a couple partners that are males that hook it up.

[–]hai85rul 25 points26 points27 points 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Not being discriminatory, but most Ive experienced working with are never objective in the decision making, and the politicking and bitching are on a whole new level..

[–]tiger_woods_is_goat 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Same. I had a female boss who instructed me to call her every time I received a request that wasn't explicitly mentioned in our policy documents. No exceptions.

So I did.

Then my annual review came around and guess what she told me? "You're doing okay overall, but you really need to start taking more initiative because you're constantly calling me asking about small issues that you should be able to solve on your own."

My jaw just about his the floor. She told me to call her about these issues, then holds it against me during review time?? Fuck that. I quit on the spot.

[–]rahsoft 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I had a female boss who instructed me to call her every time I received a request that wasn't explicitly mentioned in our policy documents. No exceptions.

thats micro managing and its a sign of an insecure narcissistic boss.

even if you had told her that she gave explicit instructions, she would deny it.

[–]tiger_woods_is_goat 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah it was in my younger days so I wasn't making much money and I wasn't going to deal with someone like that for $14/hr.

[–]rahsoft 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

sorry to hear that .

some bosses can really be POS

Ive had micro management from a boss( ive also been a boss as well), and a veiled threat of losing my job. I got revenge 3 months later when I got them fired for breach of company policy( i caught them). Had a few people come and thank me for getting rid of them because the company wanted rid of them as well

[–]willpower0687 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Not unusual. When I was in college I was in technical theatre classes, the back stage tech stuff, not acting, and at that point in time I had already been working in a professional theatre setting for three years. I needed the classes to finish a degree to get a better position in the local IATSE union. I already knew the material, terms, and way of doing things better than she could teach them. I had all the answers to her questions in class. She finally told me about three weeks in to stop raising my hand to answer questions, let the other students have a chance. End of semester, she marked me down two grades due to “lack of participation and hand raising “ in class. When I told her she specifically told me NOT to raise my hand, all she would say is “all grades are final.” Really pissed her off when I went to the Academic head and filed a complaint against her, and got my grade changed to an “A” like it should of been.

[–]tiger_woods_is_goat 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn lol that's ridiculous

[–]miladiashe 12 points13 points14 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Wow some girls just never grow up

Yeah girls are like that

[–]LokisDawn 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Just like some boys never grow up. Though unless a rich boy, they probably won't end up in managerial positions.

[–]miladiashe 11 points12 points13 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It is more acceptable to woman act like girls

[–]soulc -2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

This is because women do not have a sense of honor.

[–]Grow_peace_in_Bedlam 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Honestly, I don't think either men or women are inherently more virtuous or more prone to vice than their counterparts of the other gender. Rather, I think the issue is that men are taught to rein in their worst tendencies and that there will be consequences if they don't, while women for the most part are not.

If one sex has both intrinsic and extrinsic motivation to act decently, but the other sex is largely exempt from the extrinsic part of the equation on that front, it should be of no surprise when more people of the latter sex show open disregard for acting decently.

[–]ne14611braska 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

So how can we approach 'egailty', in society? Work practice, to begin with? I have had to deal with extra workloads due to colleagues' pregnancies at least twice. It all goes below the radar, but the males in our institution all picked up extra work. What else could we do? Wanna be a 'sexist'?

[–]ne14611braska 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh, cheer up, folks. I'm in my 50s, and took my dog to the vet the other day. I have a back problem, and these two young nurses looked at me, as though I was going to lift my dog onto their table, at their rate of pay. I stammered "I'm sorry, but I'll need a lot more room if I'm to..." and then they sprang into action. Chivalry may yet be on the rise among women.

[–]heyyy-kiddo 11 points12 points13 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They managed to loose more money than they brought in. Really stellar performance ,give them a raise. /s

[–]NetNeutralitee1 points 3 years ago [recovered] (6 children) | Copy Link

Do you think companies should avoid women managers? Because that would be a dicey thing to say. What’s the solution to this problem?

[–]Grizzleswitch 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think female managers get away with behavior that would get a male fired.

[–]XavierMalory 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

That’s not what the guy said. He said this is the issue of having an all women’s management team. I wager there would be similar problems with having an all men’s management team as well.

The solution though would be what happened in this particular case to be a more common occurrence and basically be gender blind.

[–]tiger_woods_is_goat 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wager there would be similar problems with having an all men’s management team as well

Nope. And we don't need to pretend that we're equal in all areas just to appease others who have no interest in objectivity.

[–]NetNeutralitee1 points 3 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

I see. So diversity quotas is the solution.

[–]XavierMalory 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Nope. Diversity is a solution but a quota is not necessary.

EDIT: if you look at my original response you would’ve seen I already stated the solution.

[–]EmirikolWoker 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How about looking at what's being said, rather than making up what you want them to have said? You'll find you have much more productive conversations that way, even if only by virtue of them being conversations.

[–]hehimCA 36 points37 points38 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s good to see some cases going the right way.

[–]dw87190 56 points57 points58 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Good start, but those women need to be punished for their collusion as well

[–]mixing_saws 22 points23 points24 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In germany false accusations are punishable by law for up to 5 years of prison or a hefty fine.

[–][deleted] 32 points33 points34 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This is more common than you think. Women are petty at work. Also, if you get a female boss all of a sudden, look for a new job. Because they will only hire other women and advance other women. You will be ignored but expected to work.

[–]GeneralCards 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sadly true been There done taht.

[–]randomguy7277 20 points21 points22 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

LETTS FUCKIN GOOOOOO! HELL YEAH! FUUUUCK YEAAAAAHH!

NEXT STEP!?

PUNISH THE CRIMINAL SCUUUUM!

I GOT A RAGING JUSTICE BONER. HAPPY TO SEE GOOD NEWS FOR ONCE! 🤜🤛

[–]Ok-Obligation5243 11 points12 points13 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So he played them at their game, they escalated and he got sacked. And so he matched them again, and they lost. Nice. It feels like a win, but it shouldn't. Right is right.

[–]Icy-Start5536 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Omg are you comparing women to children???!!! Reeeeeeeeee

  • They collude to get a person fired for not giving them cookies.

[–]dojoboy -2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There are similarities. Both experience emotional reactions based on perceived events (because thought processes are emotionally driven and therefore make leaps based on, for example, fear). In many instances, women are calmed in similar ways children are calmed.

“Yes, I understand why you’re angry. That would certainly be seen as upsetting. Etcetera etcetera.”

That’s not saying women are children.

[–]Sankdamoney 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Even women don’t want to work with mostly women.

[–]BearDownYo 11 points12 points13 points 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

This is why he didn't bake cookies for you in the first place you petty bitches.

Man was proven right, and got compensated for it.

[–]WereAllGonnaMakeit7 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

r/mademesmile :)

[–]OhJeezItsCorrine 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Progress, man. I'm glad to see it.

[–]BeABeaconGiveHimHead 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This is why I never became a teacher. I love kids. But I knew that a woman would eventually just ruin my career because I had a penis so why waste my time. I ended up being a nurses aid for pediatric patients, apparently that’s allowed by society.

[–]chaun2 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Same. I finished a music education degree, luckily I double majored in computer science as well. By the end of my student teaching I was well aware that there was a giant target on my back. I'm still convinced that one of the actual teachers put the girl students up to flirting with me. I'm just glad I did my student teaching in a school with cameras that recorded audio, or else I'm sure I would have been charged.

[–]KazukiYahashi 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is great!

[–]PonderingMan33 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A small step for man but a giant leap for men rights.

[–]Alive_Tough9928 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Anyone get the sense the author is trying to minimize or even ridicule the whole situation? Maybe its just me but i thought i sensed a tone. Regardless, the result was promising.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Turns out sexism goes both ways when two people that are equal are given power

[–]Alexacangetit 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

💯

[–]Woozuki 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He has transcended.

[–]Grizzleswitch 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good for him. Having seen this type of clique like anti male behavior at two separate banks, my advice is to document everything. Print odd emails and keep them for your records. Use email as a way to get confirmation of unreasonable or bad behavior and print those too. When it gets to the point that they try to "manage you out", take your file with facts to HR and let them know that you will be going to a lawyer next.

Most of the female management cliques think they are untouchable so they dont usually care about how obvious their discrimination is.

[–]omegaphallic 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Great news! Hopefully this is just the beginning if wins like this for men.

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