HSC 2022: UTS lowers ATAR bar, boosts female enrolments | Australian university lowers academic requirements for women students. What could go wrong?

Klutzy_Pride_5644 · 2022-11-08T08:15:56+00:00

I guess 60% female enrolment is not enough. Do we need 60% across all courses. Did they ever stop to think that perhaps women chose not to be engineers because they preferred other options? After all that seems to be the outcome of all research in this area.

Angryasfk · 2022-11-08T08:37:30+00:00

As I’ve said time and again: feminism is lobbying for the institution of permanent discrimination against men - ALL men.

And affirmative action isn’t just “helping to get women established” in the workforce, or showing that women can do these jobs. If so it would have served it’s purpose decades ago, and certainly should have ended by 2000.

With higher education we can see the end game. Women are now the large majority overall, and the overwhelming majority in many courses. Yet not only are the “affirmative action” type programs meant to boost their numbers still in place, new ones are being put in place.

It’s only until it’s 100% women that they will say “job done”, and even then the programmes will obviously be kept.

This shows what feminism really means when it claims to be about “equality”.

(Edit: added the missing “then”)

ohisama · 2022-11-08T14:11:39+00:00

“But the bigger problem is not getting them into undergraduate degrees but keeping them in the profession, and that is a harder challenge to tackle,”

Wonder why that is...

Based on this, now they will have further reservations and discounts in the course too.

ThrowAway29307845034 · 2022-11-08T12:53:07+00:00

Sexism against men? GOOD!

Sexism against women? BAD!

This is equality. You will actively support this blatantly oppressive state of affairs. Failure to do so makes you a misogynist. Pointing it out and criticizing it makes you a pedo who needs to get raped to death in prison.

#MostWesternWomen

Whateverhappens00 · 2022-11-08T14:06:06+00:00

In a sane world, it would not be possible to lower the academic requirements, for a certain field. We really living in a moronic illogical world

Sadder_Burrito · 2022-11-08T09:58:53+00:00

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throwawaygoodvibess · 2022-11-08T16:23:07+00:00

Wow…

“But the bigger problem is not getting them into undergraduate degrees but keeping them in the profession, and that is a harder challenge to tackle,” she said.

Wow…… so after literally lowering the standard, and doing everything in your power to push women into a field, some/many literally don’t even want to stay in said field -.-

These people’s stupidity knows no bounds

sgt_oddball_17 · 2022-11-08T11:51:49+00:00

Remember that bridge collapse in Florida a few years back?

That's one thing that could go wrong.

RoMaNuL_23 · 2022-11-08T17:56:35+00:00

i just have one question, why different standard, they are basicaly saying that women are not inteligent beings and are stupid.

Jazzeater · 2022-11-08T16:18:04+00:00

Great. Fellas if you want to get into a program declare yourself a woman. All it takes is saying you're a woman and you are.

Once you're in start identifying as a man again. If they try to kick you out, raise hell for discrimination against a non binary person.

C0sm1cB3ar · 2022-11-09T02:27:54+00:00

Is this even legal? Wtf

ForgotOldAcc-_- · 2022-11-09T06:32:05+00:00

In Europe university applications have to be anonym for equality reason

Dunno seems to work better

gigabased_anon · 2022-11-08T09:53:23+00:00

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Marty-the-monkey · 2022-11-08T07:41:12+00:00

To have a fair argument about this, it's necessary to first lay and agree on the axioms at play.

That is: Would and will bias towards any group occur naturally within the real (not ideal) world, if we remove any and all efforts to combat it? - Is the presumption that a pure meritocracy will naturally happen if we leave the world and society to it's own devices?

I personally don't believe it will, as all of history has show that we naturally gravitate to make presumptions about people within different demographics, almost unconsciously

This leaves a conundrum, as we can acknowledge that a meritocracy won't just happen unless we take active steps to reach it, however every step in one direction is perceived as subtracting from another.

The problem, as I see it, is that we havnt found any solution which combat the natural bias, presumptions and prejudices without it seeming to subtract from others.

The core concept of wanting to level the playing field in order to get to the meritocracy is in itself not bad. The question is how do we get there?

To then circle back to the article in question, I think it's an interesting attempt. Instead of straight up removing spots for some, there is just a larger incentive for others to try and get them. Compared with quotas, this seems to have attempted to reach a compromise much closer to the aforementioned action without subtraction.

cjgager · 2022-11-08T15:37:51+00:00

Gardner said there was only a fairly loose correlation between performance at university and ATAR, and all students had to meet the same requirements once accepted.
visited Australia back in the 80's and it's a truly lovely country & beautiful people but even back then a visiting American could see that Australian males' treatment & acceptance of females throughout their society was approximately 10yrs behind the times. thank goodness they are finally stepping up - it's been long enough.

C0sm1cB3ar · 2022-11-09T03:56:32+00:00

I recommend leaving a review on Google map, or any relevant places for feedback.

This is just discrimination, absolute bs

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Title	HSC 2022: UTS lowers ATAR bar, boosts female enrolments \| Australian university lowers academic requirements for women students. What could go wrong?
Author	EricAllonde
Upvotes	426
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Date	November 8, 2022 7:21 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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