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Interior minister orders expulsion of woman seeking asylum from genital mutilation, noting similarities between FGM and the MGM practiced in Israel

JohnKimble111

November 29, 2022
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/r/MensRights
https://www.timesofisrael.com/interior-minister-orders-expulsion-of-woman-seeking-asylum-from-genital-mutilation/
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Title Interior minister orders expulsion of woman seeking asylum from genital mutilation, noting similarities between FGM and the MGM practiced in Israel
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JohnKimble111

Upvotes 74
Comments 32
Date November 29, 2022 11:09 PM UTC
(3 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/z89ea5/interior_minister_orders_expulsion_of_woman/
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Comments

[–]AwfulUsername123 42 points43 points44 points 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Some Jews are in fact pushing to legalize female circumcision. More and more people are learning that feminists lie when they say male circumcision and female circumcision are incomparable (even aside from the fact that they're both infant mutilation, which apparently isn't enough). They've seen the writing on the wall.

[–]UnconventionalXY 23 points24 points25 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They don't want to outlaw male circumcision, so the only alternative is to approve female circumcision.

Feminists push against FGM could actually help fight against MGM.

[+]LowAd3406 -23 points-22 points-21 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Most female circumcisions are performed on willing teenagers as it as seen as a rite of passage into womanhood.

[–]UnconventionalXY 35 points36 points37 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not convinced it is willing teenagers: all young people are at the mercy of authoritative coercion due to the power dynamic, which is why children are deemed unable to consent in other areas.

The world needs to adopt bodily sovereignty including tissues as a fundamental human right which will cover everyone, including children.

[–]UnfurtletDawn 12 points13 points14 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's teenagers. So nope shouldn't be done.

If anything these stupidities should be allowed at 23 max.

Not 18 because at that time parental influence would still be high.

[+]etoner44 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not sure if body mutilation can be considered willing in a teenager. Same with sex with a minor,, just because they want to do it, it's still rape.

[–]odysseytree 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So is MGM and it starts from birth. Literally pedophilia and sexual assault.

[–]OldEgalitarianMRA 39 points40 points41 points 3 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

European feminists hate it that circumcision and FGM are actually both genital mutilation. It takes an Israeli politician to say the truth.

[–]LowAd3406 28 points29 points30 points 3 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link

The truth no one wants to hear is that female circumcision is really no different from male circumcision. It's removing excessive parts of the exterior labia, which is no more invasive than removing excessive foreskin. Difference is female circumcision is practiced by 'savage' Africans and Arabs, while male circumcision is practiced by 'civilized' Europeans. Feminists are pretty fucking racist and have worked hard to exclude POC's from the movement as long as they have existed.

[–]Professional_Two_845 13 points14 points15 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

"excessive foreskin"

I just want to point out that: is no "excessive" it's foreskin and that's it. It serves very specific and functional purposes.
The cases in which it needs to be treated surgically are primarily non-congenital problems, and so rare that they are barely included in national statistics.

[–]Farscape666 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I had to have mine removed at like age 6, apparently there are other methods that don’t require for it to be removed, a woman on FB educated me on it years ago. She apologized and said my genitals didn’t need to be mutilated, I was kinda shocked and taken back at the time, I never looked at it like that until then

[–]Farscape666 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Fuck I can still remember the smell of the ointment and my dad pointing to the night sky (from the bathroom) and asking if that’s UFO then ripping the bandages off (there was no easy way to do it, it was gonna hurt regardless haha)

[–]Professional_Two_845 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

thank you for sharing such a delicate experience, fortunately not all doctors are so radical or ignorant as to not apply other treatments first and leave the surgical option as an extreme last possibility. Here where I live, circumcision is so rare that if I hadn't studied medicine I might not even know it existed.

[–]Farscape666 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Interesting! And no problem, that memory wasn’t my worst haha, this was like in 96 tho so I’m sure things have changed since then

[–]neighborhoodpainter 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Bu...bu...bu...but male circumcision doesn't cause harm, though. Male circumcision has scientific benefits, though.

[–]ScatmanChuck 13 points14 points15 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Yeah but those benefits are literally for every 119 boys circumcised one might be spared from a UTI and a small barely noticable decrease in some STD’s and a claimed reduction in one of the rarest cancers possible (penile cancer is litrrally rarer than male breast cancer)

So like, cut off the hand to prevent ingrown nails levels of benefit.

[–]neighborhoodpainter 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Was a joke, hence the "Bu...bu...bu...but". I need to work on making my jokey comments more obvious.

[–]ScatmanChuck 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ah, from the sentence break it looked like maybe the first question was a joke but the second an actual statement. Here take an upvote as apology.

[–]Sea_Tour_3696 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

As a non circumcised male I can say UTIs suck but they're not world ending if you live in a region that has antibiotics and also properly clean yourself. I've only ever had 2. One was pretty bad. While the other went away on its own. There's no real reason to do it in a first world country. Even though female circumcision can be way more harmful there's no reason for either of them in a modern environment. No reason to sacrifice a man's sexual pleasure, risk the possibility of a botched surgery, or even cut the natural glands off a males dick. Out side of the jews most people do it nowdays because "it looks better" a bit insane. There's a stigma around uncircumcised dicks for some reason i cannot even understand... Uncircumcised dicks look the same hard. Theres some evidence that they feel better for the women. Also theres no scar tissue on them. Guys should have the option for themselves. Really it should be up to them after they turn 18.

[–]ScatmanChuck 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Exactly

[–]Sea_Tour_3696 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I mean too the only time I even get a UTI is taking a bath. That doesn't happen if I clean the bath really well before hand too. Basically all we have to do is teach the boys the same health precautions we teach the girls when they are young. Even then the boys will get less utis than the girls typically.

[–]CawlinAlcarz 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Heh. An interesting and unexpected development there. I wonder how much (if anything) this has to do with Sierra Leone ALSO being a predominantly Muslim country.

[+]etoner44 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Is it a predominantly Muslim country? Genine question

[–]CawlinAlcarz 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's what the US State Department says.

[–]OldSamVimes 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Don't force genital mutilation on children.

Teach them Gender Theory and they'll eventually volunteer.

[–]ChefAtRandom 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This belongs on r/darkjokes ...

[–]UnfurtletDawn 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Ehm I didn't quite understood the article.

What the hell is going on? Seeking asylum from genital mutilation?

Can someone explain it to me?

[–]ScatmanChuck 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Sierra leone has an about 80% infibulation rate. This is the form of female genital mutilation where the entire vulva is removed and the vaginal opening sown shut. Its done during a day of celebration, only women are involved, and they do it willingly. Willingly howver in the same sense that little boys from remote african tribes do it willingly - you dont really have a choice, they just say you do but throw you out of the tribe if you make the wrong choice.

[+]forkyourtoaster 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Don't know much about these procedures and I also agree with neither, but is that not more extreme than male circumcision and surely carry more risk?

[–]ScatmanChuck 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh yeah thats completely out of the question, but fgm ranges from that at one end, and simple pricking that doesnt even remove any tissue (fgm type 4) which is far less severe, but the law in almost all countries in the world bans all types of fgm no matter how minor, while fully allowing circumcision. In some countries male genital mutilation gets far worse, in some Australian tribes a form of mutilation that splits the entire penis in half from tip to scrotum is practiced - but no one lifts a finger, even when those boys end up dead in hospital

[+]forkyourtoaster 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah that's crazy, I don't even understand how it became common practise to mutilate children, they should definitely all be illegal, although fgm is illegal I know that (in the UK anyway) nobody has ever been charged with it

[–]VentusHermetis 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Disgusting.

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