Some of this is gonna be bullshit depending on what you want out of life

DidYouUseAJimmy · 2022-12-11T01:38:25+00:00

Hey man, 23 here as well, found RP at 20.

First I agree with everything about being your best self and all that. Applying that to my life in the past 3 years has significantly improved my life.

As for the parts you don’t agree with, I’ve felt very similar recently and I came to a different conclusion.

You come first, you vet women hard, and you do what makes you happy. If it’s to have casual sex, fine. If it’s to find a meaningful LTR, date to find a girl who deserves to be with you, and makes you happy.

I feel like to many people here see the way thinks are, and the risk of choices like getting married, and they say “look at the risk, it’s an obvious no.” IMO being a man is seeing everything from every side you can, making a decision and making the most of it/working hard at it.

This is probably gonna piss off some people on this sub, but screw it, I’ll say it. You gotta remember that some of the people here are middle age, divorce raped, mildly comfortable men that will tell you there’s no success in a path of life because they didn’t find it. To be fair, if that was me, I would build myself a better life and never marry another woman again, so as much as we don’t understand their perspective, they cannot fully grasp it.

TRP is a toolkit, there’s people who will tell you that a certain tool can’t do a certain job, sometimes it can’t, and sometimes they couldn’t get the tool to work right.

We found these ideas young enough to solidify what we like, and what we don’t, and the rest is trial and error. And remember, a core TRP concept that even TRP forgets, when you turn off your phone, myself and everyone else in this sub is not apart of your life, so fuck me and them and what we think, go live your life man, even if some guys on this sub think you’re a BP cuck

LeatherBoundWisdom · 2022-12-10T22:28:23+00:00

I think you got AWALT wrong.

The idea isn't to say all women are sluts, but more that all sluts are women. All women have the capacity to be a slut, and all women have the desire to cheat, most especially when their husband is a beta bitch. Some give in, some don't. If you want a wife, you should create the circumstances that minimize the probability of cheating.

In general, if your common sense disagrees with redpill, you're understanding redpill wrong. When you find a model that satisfies both of the seemingly contradicting statements is when you get real revelations.

319Skew · 2022-12-11T00:00:09+00:00

I don't understand the whole lose yourself bit.

This is probably gonna ruffle some feathers but here goes.

We're all running in a marathon that's called life. There are winners that get further along and there are losers that fall behind. Not everything has value and not everything is good for you (even if you enjoy it).

That said, it's your life. No one is here can force you to do anything you don't want to, but there are some things that impede your ability to get where you want to.

For example, you can eat at Carl's Jr. It'll taste good and you'll feel happy, but after awhile you'll notice that your getting a gut. All that processed food will also impact your skin and you'll also be short whatever a meal cost. But, what do you care? You're happy.

Same with video games, movies, clubbing, etc.

Still, it comes back to your life and your rules. Every minute that you're spending on something that you enjoy that doesn't contribute to your success in life is something that's taking away from your potential.

All TRP does is show you an objective mirror to see the reality for what it is.

This goes double for hypergamy, SMV and relationships.

You want to go after a marriage. That's fine. It doesn't change how women respond. It doesn't change the fact that statically, she's more likely to leave you then stay, it doesn't change the effect of being divorced/cheated on.

You can keep running while looking at your shoes and bump into objects that you could've seen coming or stare at the sky and trip over yourself. World doesn't care.

You're also young. At 23, these days, I'd say that you're still lacking in maturity. You haven't experienced as much as some of the older guys. That's not to invalidate your experiences but objectively speaking, you're STARTING to come into your own. It's why Rollo and various other people say that you shouldn't settle down.

You're giving up your own agency early and tethering yourself to someone who will limit your growth.

This was true prior but this is exponentially more so now where women come with a whole plethora of drama and complications.

So, I'll share this tidbit with you and all the guys who are young, blue pilled, trying to live out a Disney fantasy, etc...

She's not going to love you like YOU want her to love you. You may as well tell a hound to meow. She will love HOW you make her feel. Her love is EXTREMELY conditional. Her nature is bathed in feminine hypegramy.

Also, people are judgmental. We may try to pretend like we're not superficial but looks and appearance matters. You wouldn't trust your savings account to someone who looks like they came off the streets, would you? Given a choice between two women with the exact same personality, but one is 40 lbs heavier, can you honestly tell me you'd choose the whale?

What about cars? Do you think that you'd feel better driving a beat up Pontiac Aztek or a new BMW 8 Series? Which would give you more pride? Which would give you more attention? Which is harder to get?

Be honest.

LatentShadow · 2022-12-10T22:38:13+00:00

Red pill (and to a lot of extent, religion) is a "salad plate": you take what you want and reject what you don't need.

I understand your viewpoints and maybe the youtuber called "Hamza" might be helpful to you. He is someone who uses RP principles (geared towards self improvement) to attain LTR's.

Recommendation: Format long text into paragraphs for better reading.

All the best in your journey.

SeikoSeaUrchinFan · 2022-12-11T04:12:14+00:00

TRP teaches the things that the devil on a woman’s shoulder says. Like us, they also have an angel on the other side. This is the human condition, neither you, I, or any man in this sub is above this, our devil just says different stuff.

West-Ad-9697 · 2022-12-11T07:26:25+00:00

First of all - content marketing is garbage. It's literally echochamberism made for profit.

There is no red pill cannon anymore. They all sold out for Miami airbnb money.

I would argue to go to the marriedRP subreddit - that's applied red pill, and deals with polarization exclusively beyond the black pill bait and the politics woow is my masculine culture.

I would argue however that you still grasp at the though of a special girl.

AWALT isn't accusatory, not any more than saying all men get boners, all men want a tight little thing begging for it. Does it mean like some female black pill content creators say: all men are dogs and will cheat on you the first chance they get?

Well as men, you know that wanting something, liking something and having no sense of object permanence are very different things. Same for the AWALT woman. I am on the extreme case - and I consider myself fully red pill. I think there are no sluts there's only weak men. I think ALL WOMEN are perfectly datable. Some just require sociopathic level frames. For some women, chatting with fat Jessica about fishing is enough to have a small mouse at the back of her head spinning. Innocuous things that guys do on the daily are enough to make them think "dude got options". While for Adriana Checknik (that pornstar super slut that fractured her spine) it might take her watching you fuck a girl and her being totally absorbed by your gaze while getting a 7incher in her arse - to get the same small reaction in the back of her head. The point of AWALT is that the mechanisms are the same across all women, just how there's mechanisms behind male behavior.

There will never be a woman, that dreams of a loser, living on the couch, that pops in 2 minutes and is a fat fuck. There will be women that will settle for one or two of those traits - but guess what- that doesn't mean she is in your frame, that doesn't mean you are the goal of her dating strategy. That just means she needs to share the rent and have someone to get shot in the case of a home invasion.

goldenjaguar11 · 2022-12-11T04:38:04+00:00

I agree, also 23, kept a lot of the hood stuff, let go of the bad stuff. There’s a few posts I copied and I can attest that it works. If you state your terms and your values, and you don’t change, bend, or waver, she will submit. Goodluck

green_tea_bag · 2022-12-11T05:46:48+00:00

Just remember that whatever you accept, and whatever you reject, is free. Most of the people selling shit are just rehashing old public domain information anyway. Seek wisdom.

Cubow · 2022-12-11T07:34:54+00:00

Personally TRP was never about more, than just granting you with an understanding of intersexual relationships (and it's consequences). It doesn't say doing this is good, doing this is bad, rather it grants you with an understanding of what your actions might lead to. Like a guy might be redpilled as fuck, yet still a fat ugly lazy overemotional loser. Difference is, compared to the bluepilled guy, he at least knows why he is one. To me, thats always what TRP has been about, answering the whys.

Now if you want to be vulnerable and emotional to your women, then go ahead, do it (I do too actually, but I am very careful about it). TRP (it's concepts, not the community) won't tell you no. What it will tell you though, is that from an evolutionary standpoint they will lose attraction, if you decide to frame yourself more vulnerable to them. It's a universal truth, however the degree to which these concepts apply vary wildly from woman to woman. One will leave you the moment you cry in front of them, another one might be seemingly unaffected. It's up to you to balance out the benefits and drawbacks of each of these things. It might even be possible, that for example the drawbacks of being more vulnerable in front of one woman (e.g. less attractive), will cancel out by making you a more functional human being (in turn making you more attractive). Again, it's a careful balancing act and there are way too many factors involved, to be able to make declarative statements like "never do this, always do this". Just treat everything you learned from TRP just as some more variables you should consider when making a decision.

HugoJP · 2022-12-11T13:02:29+00:00

26 here, been here since I was 19.

(i seriously don’t believe AWALT and there are some women who actually want a guy who’s human, has emotions and can admit their mistakes or shortcomings)

They absolutely do. But you haven't yet fully understood what TRP is aiming to do and the reason you came here in the first place.

The reason this place attracted you was because you were lacking with women in some aspect & also because you were lacking internally.

The underlying reason for this is most likely 2-fold: 1) You have some kind of nice guy syndrome and low self-esteem, and 2) You don't understand women.

To get you back into balance from being 'too nice' to a chill dude, almost everyone first has to overcompensate to the other side of the spectrum: overconfident, DGAF alpha douchebag.

That's why you might read here that women don't want to see your emotions, shortcomings etc because it's weakness. The problem is not that these things are fundamentally wrong, the problem is that women don't tolerate this from low value guys & low value guys have a proclivity to do these things.

If you were a high value guy, you'd not only have more leeway, you'd also have far less proclivity to exude this behavior.

if you follow EVERYTHING word for word, (which i did for a couple years) i feel like it makes you lose yourself

You are supposed to come to this conclusion. It means you finally are starting to understand.

be unapologetically myself and choose someone who i found attractive that could accept me for myself as much as i have

This is pretty much the end goal. But you don't tell that to a newbie because he will interpret it as: I don't need to change my behavior/attitude etc.

The ultimate goal is to just be yourself, but that's terrible advice to give to someone who has not actualized themselves yet and is only a ghost of their true potential.

Positive-Lifeguard80 · 2022-12-11T13:38:40+00:00

At 23 you don't have the experience to understand the Red Pill concepts. That's something, only men from in their 30s or older can grasp. You like to cherry-pick, because you want to bang chicks like an adult, but stick to your Blue Pill world and believe in Santa Claus. There is nothing wrong with that, be a college boy and have fun, kid.

When you get older you will realize...

that life isn't fair
that you're not meant to be happy
that you have the burden of performance as a man
with enough chick experience that AWALT is in fact true
that marriage and LTR is just dead outside movies

You will realize that your 23yo two cents didn't mean shit and cringe at your own post. But that's fine, you cannot be mature man a without one single grey hair. Women are, men become.

Vesperous · 2022-12-10T23:53:21+00:00

Nothing in life should be followed 100%, trp has some good stuff I followed to get what I want in life and put me on the right path but if I followed everything on here I feel like I’d have none of that lol.

greenricegod · 2022-12-11T03:08:34+00:00

The crazy thing is tho that all women really are like that! The more women you meet the more you realize. Keep your eyes open

kvakerok · 2022-12-11T07:18:48+00:00

if you follow EVERYTHING word for word, (which i did for a couple years) i feel like it makes you lose yourself.

If that makes you lose yourself, the self part that you're losing is WEAK. The purpose of RP is to give you tools to build YOUR frame. Not Rollo's frame, not Tate's frame, not <insert influencer>'s frame, YOUR frame. You build it upon your character. If your character is absolute shite, then just like a house built on sand, no frame will hold, RP or no RP. If you try to pretend to be someone you're not, it will also not hold, because that would be like building a house on no foundation at all.

call me a pussy, libtard i don’t care.

No, you're just young and naive.

(i seriously don’t believe AWALT and there are some women who actually want a guy who’s human, has emotions and can admit their mistakes or shortcomings).

The fact that you wrote this means you still don't understand awalt. You can interview every woman in the world about what they want in their partners and 99.99% of them will list "open with emotions", "admits mistakes" and all that other bs. They wouldn't be lying. They absolutely think they want that in their partners. But you know what no woman in the world has ever said? "He admitted his mistakes and I got weak in the knees". "He cried on my shoulder so I wanted to fuck his brains out".

There is a disconnect between what a woman thinks she wants in a partner and what actually turns her own, appeals to her lizard brain. And there's nothing you can do about it. Awalt.

The point of awalt is not to screech it online for internet points. The point of awalt is to accept general female nature and stop getting mad at women for being women. To embrace awalt and use it to your benefit. The sooner you disabuse yourself of this notion the easier it will be for you in the future.

If you want to test awalt against your oneitis, all you have to do is lose your job or stop lifting, or better yet, both. See how long she lasts.

decunnilinguist · 2022-12-11T02:40:45+00:00

What allot of you kids don’t get is that you’re not meant to be happy.

MastleMash · 2022-12-11T14:21:36+00:00

This sub obviously is focused on sexual strategy with women, specifically banging the most distinct women as many times that you can.

Personally, trolling bars or swiping through tinder at 50, even if you’re banging 20 year olds, sounds incredibly sad and a waste of time to me. The parts of TRP about self improvement and seeing the world as it is, not as you want it to be are much more interesting to me than banging some sloots.

avarciousRutabega99 · 2022-12-11T14:33:26+00:00

Hey quick question what are you guys reading to learn all this stuff. Interested in RP mostly so I can pull.

That-Potential-5684 · 2022-12-11T14:44:09+00:00

if you follow EVERYTHING word for word, (which i did for a couple years) i feel like it makes you lose yourself.

Maybe you confused red pill with PUA?

Title	Some of this is gonna be bullshit depending on what you want out of life
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Date	December 10, 2022 10:18 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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