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smh women out here swiping on fuckboys but still expect good dude treatment. Women, don't complain about jerks disrespecting you when you reject dudes who DO respect you for not being a smooth-talking Chris Hemsworth.

kevin32

December 23, 2022
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Title smh women out here swiping on fuckboys but still expect good dude treatment. Women, don't complain about jerks disrespecting you when you reject dudes who DO respect you for not being a smooth-talking Chris Hemsworth.
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Date December 23, 2022 3:57 PM UTC
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Comments

[–]ialwayslurk1362354 83 points84 points85 points 3 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

A few quotes from Patrice O'Neal come to mind:

"P**** ain't all I want unless that's all you got."

"I've dated women with PhD's all the way down to GED's, and they all say the same bullshit."

Most have no hobbies, no unique insights, no personality, and don't offer anything aside from a warm body. What do they offer in return for being asked out on dates?

[–]SnakeEyeskidthrew her a dildo then went to play Zelda 41 points42 points43 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Most women are basically a sum of the men they dated. If a wamyn have an interesting/odd hobby, she usually got it from that one ex that she can't get over...

If she has a specific music taste (aka doesn't just listen to whatever is popular/mainstream) then you can be fairly certain her BF from HS liked that music.

They are quite impressionable.

This is one "issue". Realizing that her interest in history or movies, the music she ques on Spotify, the whole getting to know her, is more like getting to know the men of her past.

They piece their personality together with parts of their past. And they never understand why men prefer not to know their past...

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

There’s not a real argument against what you propose. Generally guys tend to develop their own hobbies from stumbling into things

[–]sleepyweaselisawakePlowing his way through muck while misquoting Office Space 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Can confirm, I've stumbled into lots of things that have become fun hobbies.

[–]polishknightusaEndorsed Winged Hussar 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I had an ex girlfriend who was a lot of fun to be around (but unstable) but after I left, I continued to enjoy The Ventures and The Loving Spoonful as well as boat shows.

I introduced her to opera but... I don't think it stuck.

[–]SnakeEyeskidthrew her a dildo then went to play Zelda 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well I dont keep tab of my exes but there was one who would make new accounts to contact me...

From what I heard she still pretends to be into Melodic Death Metal 🤣

[–]Internet_Snowflake 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What do they offer in return for being asked out on dates?

Not stimulating conversations, that's for sure. I've been there. Many women have horrible tastes in just about everything. I just want to walk out on them.....but then that would be rude, wouldn't it?

[–]ialwayslurk1362354 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't think so.

I value my time, and if it's not being invested wisely I'll move on.

Remember, they don't owe you anything. You can respond in kind.

[–]BigBroHerc 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I love pussy. Truly. I get more than my share for sure BUT when I want intellectual stimulation or informed conversation and debate, I have to go to my boys for that. Most women are boring and not funny.

[–]DecimatingDarkDeceit 47 points48 points49 points 3 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Not just within online spaces, but real life as well ! ...and then these deluded, unstable t00ts actually expect the %85 of entire male population should be more than happy; when she is 'ready' for 'marriage'.

[–]BlowDryerrr 64 points65 points66 points 3 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link

It's the same pattern over and over.

Seed-collecting in her 20s.

Waiting at the finish line while she approaches her expiry date in her 30s.

Cries about how there're no good men and how she's special.

Forces a man to sign a contract that forfeits half his assets.

Gets bored and craves for drama.

Cashes out the marriage in divorce.

Buys a cat.

[–]mustangfrankCopy-paste Commando 26 points27 points28 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

The Story of Heidi

In an apartment complex that I lived in Houston, there was a loose knit collection of about 10-15 singles. We would meet at the pool on the weekends, and have informal parities. If one person knew of a singles event, they would inform the rest, and whoever wanted could attend. I even dated one of the girls in the group for a short time.

In the group, was an attractive girl named Heidi. She was a degreed professional in the oil business. And you couldn’t miss her. She was 5’11”, blonde hair, with blue eyes. Typical for a tall girl, she didn’t have much up top, but she have broad curvy hips and an hour glass waist. She, needless to say, she got the attention of single men.

One Saturday, I was catching rays and drinking beer with some of the other guys at the apartment complex pool, when one man I knew walked up to the group of us. He stated he had proposed to Heidi, and she had turned him down. He approached us in the off chance that someone might know Heidi and put the good word in for him with her. Months later, I was at my section’s pool of the apartment complex. There was a water polo game in progress, one man about 10 feet away me on my left, was playing boom box, and about 10 feet in the other direction were two girls from the group talking about how Heidi had rejected two other men's marriage proposals. I wasn’t getting all the details of the conversation due to noise at the pool and that fact I didn’t really care, so I don’t know if the two girls were jealous of Heidi getting the attention of these two men, or if these women were mocking these men as losers, due to Heidi rejecting them. But the point here is not only was Heidi getting the attention of single men, but marriage proposals.

Fast forward 12 years, one child and one divorce later on my part. A friend wanted me to join a dating agency. He would get a bonus if I joined, and I could join at a discount. I said before I join, I wanted to see what the single girls in the agency look like. I was given a binder of women 30-34 years of age. In the binder were pages of women. At the top of the page, in about 1 inch high letters was the girl's name, then below that a 2"x3" photo of her and below that 3 or 4 paragraphs that she wrote of herself. I started looking, when I got to page 7 or 8, I noticed the name Heidi. I took a good look, and it was her. I quickly scanned her paragraphs. I remembered a phrase of one sentence, it read, “34 years old, never married, no children.” I thought how could this be? I knew of three men who wanted to marry her, and in the 12 years that had passed there must have been more. How was it possible she never married given all the advantages she had? What dating parameters did she employ that failed her so miserably that resulted in her being never married given all the physical advantages she had?

In a social setting, if she were not the most desirable girl, she certainly was one of the more desirable girls. And I am here to tell you Heidi could have had absolutely any man she wanted, and I mean absolutely any man. If a poll had been taken by the single men in the complex of who would be most likely single at the age of 34, I am here to tell you Heidi’s name would not have been at the top of the list. What had she done with her life? How was it possible she never married? Did she think at the age of 34, she would have a bigger and better selection of single males than when she was 24?

I suspect in her 20's, she had a male qualification list as long as her inseam, and if a male were lacking any one of these parameters, he was immediately rejected. She kept saying no to men, until there were no men to say no, to.

I also suspect that all during her early years, she was used to getting plenty of male attention, and assumed her future would be like her past. Why would it change? In her years 17-26, she most likely was the crème de la crème of women. But as she entered her late 20’s, much to her dismay, there were lots of younger girls, many prettier and more approachable, meaning shorter. At 5’11”, she was taller than 99% of the women, 80% of the men and at 28 years of age, older than 90% of both men and women in a single’s bar. She stood out like a sore thumb due to her height and age.

How her story ends? I don’t know. I didn’t join the dating agency. But it was Heidi’s actions and Heidi’s actions alone that made her single. I bet never in her worse nightmare, did she ever think she would be childless and single at the age of 34. She wasted her youth and fertility using extremely flawed dating parameters that she created and imposed on herself and refused to change in spite of years of obvious failure. I can’t say for sure, but I will bet a dollar to a dime, she was a heightist, which made her prospects to find a man even harder.

[–]polishknightusaEndorsed Winged Hussar 20 points21 points22 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This deserves reposting into perpetuity...

Indeed, I joined a dating agency back in the 90's and there were a lot of "Heidi"s in it. Women who had hit a "passage" where the hottest guys weren't asking them out anymore, or she realized she wanted to settle down and thought "Well, maybe I need to join a dating agency where the alpha chads are!" and they were disappointed to find they were full of guys like me.

[–]InevitableOwl1Swipes with a dictionary in hand 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Some recent app browsing has shown me that apart from the obvious (single mothers) they are full of women near over 30 who are 5’8” and above.

You can bet that they will only consider men 6’0” and over. And just don’t realise that there aren’t enough of them (especially not willing to settle). And that they aren’t proportionally matched off with taller than average girls anyway

It is on an app with very limited matches per day so I don’t even waste my messages on them. And I expect many guys are the same. There is even a prompt (hinge) for “You should message me if” - and I was tempted to say “you are taller than me because let’s face it 90% of the time it would be a waste of one of my messages”. But that is obviously so negative and a really bad plan. And wouldn’t work!

I can only assume that these taller women really do think there is an equal proportion of single, relationship minded taller men for them out there

[–]MrLuggable 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The one time I stupidly followed my Boomer father's advice and tried a dating agency, I remember the "face droop" that happened every single time I walked through the door and obviously wasn't "the 666 man" that they were hoping would materialize like life was a Hallmark movie.

[–]BigBroHerc 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Great story. I know and meet SOOOO many “Heidi’s” that are now panicking and aging-out hard! Reality is setting in like a mofo!

The ones in their 40’s and 50’s are just pathetic. I’m noping them regularly. (Head to any nice hotel bar, and you’re bound to find a few….) LOL

[–]DecimatingDarkDeceit 11 points12 points13 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Its essentially a doom cult / decay cult at this point and their hive mind is far too detached to realize it

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QwfhakBSMmU

[–]TraksimussJr. Hamster Analyst 49 points50 points51 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

If women could get sexon demand with hot men until age of 90, they would start looking for husband at 89 and half.

[–]DecimatingDarkDeceit 17 points18 points19 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Spot on ! (Blackpill) Jackpot !

Unforeseen Consequences is what these devolved entitled generations earn

[–]WhereProgressIsMade 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There are enough examples of women who have poor outcomes that it’s not really an unforeseeable consequence. The only way I can figure it is either they're simply oblivious or their thought process is similar to people addicted to buying lottery tickets. The math is not on their side. But that hope of winning keeps them buying more and more tickets. And everyone has convinced her she’s special so she believes it and thinks she’ll be one of the lucky ones to not get burned.

[–]mustangfrankCopy-paste Commando 14 points15 points16 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe better. If women could ride the CC until 90, they would start looking for a good man at 89 1/2.

[–]HerdOfBuffalo 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Or 91, more like.

[–]ihaveabigpenis69420 35 points36 points37 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

on tinder

cries because she gets treated like a tinderslut

Also

I’d like to be asked out because I seem like a nice girl

ROFL. Guaranteed she posts her most whorish pics on there with maybe a few good girl pics sprinkled in here and there. Besides, it’s impossible and stupid to assume a female is a “nice girl” based on pictures alone. She could make herself look like the sweetest girl imaginable and in reality she’s Amber Heard.

I’d like to be asked on a proper date

Then get off of tinder and when a guy comes up irl and asks you on a “proper date” don’t treat him like a he’s a creep.

[–]TraksimussJr. Hamster Analyst 26 points27 points28 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

But Chris Hemworth never came up to her on street, an honest 4/10 and did not bedazzle her.

You are not offering her to pay attention to her looksmatch, that is so cruel!

[–]NBA_MSG 14 points15 points16 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

She literally says "I know it's tinder and I know what it's used for buuuutt"

She knows it yet somehow she's shocked enough to post it. Ma'am, you're going to McDonald's and complaining about the food. Expect the same outcome until you stop going there.

[–]TraksimussJr. Hamster Analyst 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh yea, story of Solomon that was posted also here with pdf link as a bonus.

A woman driving to McDonalds and ordering burger. Then 'smarting up' close to 30 and going to the same McDonalds but now asking high quality steak and wondering why she is not getting her order fulfilled.

[–]scabbymonkey 37 points38 points39 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

All Women want is my money. ( As i walk into the strip club with a pocket full of ones ).

[–]DecimatingDarkDeceit 19 points20 points21 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

^

Not / only / in strip clubs, real life is the exact mirror (!)

[–]scabbymonkey 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

How true you are, sir

[–]DecimatingDarkDeceit 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you kind stranger :)

[–]mustangfrankCopy-paste Commando 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And if you marry one, you will need more than a pocket full of 1's.

[–]BlowDryerrr 27 points28 points29 points 3 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

If she gets the same results repeatedly, maybe she should look inwards and admit the problem is herself.

A bunch of guys made a conscious decision to straight up ask her for a fuck instead of a date. This should tell her what she wants to know. It doesn't matter what she thinks she's worth. If she wants dates, then her valuation is entirely determined by the people she's looking for. By her own accord, a lot of men think she's only worth a fuck and no more.

But it's women and their hamster logic. They all think they are special. They can't seem to understand that if everyone is special, then no one is.

[–]mustangfrankCopy-paste Commando 12 points13 points14 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If she gets the same results repeatedly, maybe she should look inwards and admit the problem is herself.

When has any woman ever done that?

[–]sorathecrow__ 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I am 100% positive plenty of guys did the demure "hey how are you?" starter, or the thoughtful questions about her bio, but she filters all of them and gets upset when the guys she really wants just want her for sex.

[–]Admirable_Bee_8714 23 points24 points25 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Woman on tinder complains that she isn't being taken out to dinner on an app that is entirely built for hookups.

[–]Internet_Snowflake 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah. I've never been able to understand how these stupid women think. Did they think Tinder was somehow for traditional "dating" like eWhoreMoney.com, Snatch.com, etc.?

[–]Training-Celery3946 23 points24 points25 points 3 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

This is 100% true. I’m definitely what you would call a Chad.. Tall, former athlete, good looking, make good money, even when I approach women in a “boring way” I get ghosted, but the moment I send some sexual punchline or say something simple like “damn that ass phat” I get the number or we meet up almost immediately. At this point Im convinced most women don’t even know what they really want.

[–]mustangfrankCopy-paste Commando 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

At this point I'm convinced most women don’t even know what they really want.

You stated it. Chad.

I was a wingman for a Chad.

[–]Internet_Snowflake 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Hey you forgot to paste the rest. Hahahah!

[–]mustangfrankCopy-paste Commando 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I do post of new members to see.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

All the plain heys or entry lines sent by me are met with silence. I say some clever sexually charged thing, it’s met with immediate interest. Sigh

[–]WhereProgressIsMade 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This seems to hold at least in my marriage too. Sending a dirty text or smacking her ass and whispering something to her is more likely to end up in the bedroom than planning and taking her out for a nice date night.

[–]BigBroHerc 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol. That’s the secret sauce! You have to tell the bitch what she wants. Chad magic.

[–]OverkillengineCasts Pearls to the Swine 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Or they're just lying their asses off about it to salve their ego both internally and socially.

They know there will be a stigma on them if they openly say they want a man confident enough to treat them like a piece of fuckmeat in a bar alley, or at the very minimum they will lose some of the Free Shit! they get from orbiters finally realizing they're never going to see a return on their covert contracts.

[–]Admirable_Bee_8714 24 points25 points26 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is like a man complaining he can't find a nice virgin in a whorehouse.

[–]IoSonCalaf 19 points20 points21 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

“We women just want to feel valued!” Then have some value? Idk.

[–]mustangfrankCopy-paste Commando 17 points18 points19 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Unfortunately for men, valued means men spending money on them, with no return on value.

[–]Internet_Snowflake 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Taking responsibility would mean they can't easily blame things on men anymore.

[–]silly_birb_Banned 17 points18 points19 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The only guy saying that she also picks on looks because that's all you see on the profile, got downvoted -25...

In a crazy society the sane person is labeled as "madman"

[–]lokifrog1 14 points15 points16 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s literally the I’m calling HR meme lmao

[–]lurkerhasarisenA Strategist Among Tacticians 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The long reply by the short woman is almost more interesting to me that the OP. She has quite the persecution complex. I have to wonder, though, what kind of neighborhood does she inhabit where getting openly sexual comments is an everyday occurrence?

I'm not buying it: guys at her gym are not cat-calling her. I'm a hard core gym rat and I've never seen a guy do that even once. The grocery store? The bank? Yeah.. I'm not buying that, either.

But if she wants to talk about who gets treated like an object, she should replicate the "living like a man" experiment from, "Self-Made Man." A non-Chad man is basically a wrench: ignored until you're needed, then tossed back in the toolbox once you've served your purpose... and easily replaced if you break. Like Jessica Valenti whining about the fact that the cat-calls stopped when she got older, she would miss the validation she claims to hate like an addict misses heroin.

But maybe her real problem is that when you hang out with scummy people in scummy places, scummy things happen. I can guarantee that nobody would be grabbing her ass if she was in church rather than in bars.

[–]Internet_Snowflake 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Great post, especially the last two paragraphs.

[–]InevitableOwl1Swipes with a dictionary in hand 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I took a look at the bibliography of Jessica valenti. Wow. The cat calls stopping really did a number on her didn’t it?

[–]moorekomUrban Hoe Guerrilla 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's the psychology of insecure sluts: they pretend to dislike what they actually like in the hope that it makes them sound more virtuous. An insecure slut is the loudest in her refusal to being called a slut.

[–]Mister_McDerp 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The comments of the guys in there say it all. "I tried being nice and witty, but once I started just being an ass who wants to fuck I got results".

Women don't understand that THEY are training US when it comes to dating.

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