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$ Bailout $polishknightusa/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/08/23 03:30 AM
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Single Mom Tearspolishknightusa/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/05/24 06:30 PM
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WAATGM In The Makingpolishknightusa/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/05/23 03:18 PM
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Dual-Mating Strategypolishknightusa/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/06/23 07:06 PM
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Entitlement Princesspolishknightusa/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/08/23 05:21 PM
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Pushing Muh Agenda!polishknightusa/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/06/24 01:50 AM
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$ Bailout $polishknightusa/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/12/23 01:56 PM
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I got snorts of derision when I suggested that just as someone brings a bottle of wine to a dinner party, someone who goes to a presumably paid dinner date should bring something to show appreciation such as a decorated card, perhaps a pair of socks with a seasonal theme, or a small gift card for a local arcade or coffee shop. These were the same folks who were lecturing me about how "gentlemen" needed to be "mannered". This is part 1 of the series (more in part 2) but as you can see in this, sh…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/09/24 10:47 PM
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u/CautiousOp wrote in the post before I had to delete and repost (sorry, technical issue, my fault) "Here's the thing - she is cute for being 44 - a solid 7 at absolute best. But she also says her expensive spa and products make her 20% more attractive. So behind the picture she chose to share, she's a 5. Who is barren. And jaded. And does not appreciate money. And blames the patriarchy for everything. She sounds like a delight!" It's in part 2, but she states a complaint they often make that mo…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/09/24 07:16 PM
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Had to repost (minor edit). Part 1 of 2. Two themes going on, part 1 is Leftover with Meal Whore demands (Meal Whore might make a cool flair if it happens enough). Part 2 will be WAAGTM In the Making. Note on reading: Different colored markings indicate different commenters.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/09/24 06:02 PM
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Chuckled about her "embarrassment" about men asking her to pay her way: Yep, as she notices, being old means she's gotta pay her way more often than being young because she could extort men to pay for her when she was younger. It's "embarrassing" when you can't make demands of people anymore. That's "equality". That reminds me of the Troi Colours film series by the Polish director Krzysztof Kieślowski. They're a bit "art house" but he wrote the series because he was intrigued by the idea: "Peopl…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/09/24 06:55 PM
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I went there back when I was the only Anglo speaker for a 10 km wide radius. It was a different time just as women have changed in the states. My wife was half country-girl who spent a lot of time on the family farm and the only women who had tattoos had been to prison. Since the east has opened up to the west, it's a different ballgame. Gordon Black, for example, clearly met a skanky Russian woman even by Russian standards who smoked, had a bad temper, and showed him no respect whatsoever but a…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/09/24 04:15 PM
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My father bought a set of encyclopedias and I was one of the few kids in our household that actually used them. It was sort of like a manual wikipedia. I read that EB shut down their operation some time ago?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/09/24 02:24 PM
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I don't think it goes through their minds "oh he must be expecting something" if a guy overspends on a date but rather they may consider his behavior beta and subconsciously find him "ick". I find it amusing that the women who offer to pay their share when they're not interested in a second date are often motivated by fear he might hassle her later because "he's expecting something" rather than it being the right thing to do. Thank Cads for saving the rest of us men money on wasted dates. It's a…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/09/24 02:20 PM
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This is part 2 of this Carol's saga. Part 1 was "I think men created their own "hell" by their unreasonable standards."
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/09/24 11:43 AM
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u/PandaMayFire FYI, I married a Ukrainian woman 20 years ago, but we don't live like typical Americans. We spend a lot of time not only in the Ukrainian community but also other foreign communities as well (Asian, South American, etc.). American women tend to be a bit snobby and condescending around my wife which I don't mind because this resists her being fully assimilated into American culture. We essentially live like ex-pats in the states. About every 2 years we leave for a month to go back …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/09/24 07:43 PM
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Although we live in a hyper feminist/chivalrous system, I think their narrative up to now has been that selfish, lazy men didn't want more contraceptive options because we wanted women to be stuck using the pill and that women needed abortion because of men who sleep around and leave. Yes, I know they change narratives all the time (look at the TERFs) but I think that the lack of oral contraceptives for men has been due to biology and capitalist laziness, quite frankly (it's cheaper and more pro…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/09/24 10:18 PM
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I read about this for a long time and wondered if the side effects for RISUG/Vasagel were a deal breaker. When this hits the market, It Will Be Huge. We're already living in a post-apocalyptic dating world but men having the ability to prevent accidental pregnancy AND to keep this to themselves is as big as The Pill was for women. It would level the playing field whereby women chasing after Alpha Chads or even Beta Bucks lying that she's on the pill would come to an end. https://www.youtube.com/…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/09/24 02:11 PM
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Looking back, I gave up a lot of great lays out of principle but wouldn't now. There's plenty of excuses to wear a condom including, sincerely, you trust HER but not the pill which has a high failure rate even when used properly. Back when the pill first came out, tons of teenagers back in the 1970's and 1980's had accidental pregnancies and got shotgun marriages. A family friend got a girlfriend knocked up, married her at townhall (just like in the Springsteen song "The River"), and they had an…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/09/24 02:04 PM
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If you've got stuff, it makes more sense to simply move the assets into a business trust and then have it controlled which is the same as "owning" it with few of the estate issues. This is how the wealthy hide their wealth, actually, by smurfing their assets into multiple trusts so it's largely impossible to determine who much someone is actually worth. A professor gave a fun lecture about how some English King apparently conducted a census/property survey that what wasn't declared to a PERSON b…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/09/24 04:10 PM
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But isn't she "strong and independent?" :-). There's actually a marriage tax PENALTY for high earners in the USA although the Trump administration did negate that at the federal level up to, I think, $200K or so for married couples but it's still in place at the state level. It was Nixon who signed off on a marriage tax penalty where a married couple only get 1.6 of a 2 person allowance. What this meant. is that if a woman was a homemaker, they'd get a 0.6 allowance instead of 1, but it's still …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/09/24 03:44 PM
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I was waiting for someone else to point it out, so I'll say the obvious: She says she wants to be married (again) and values the sanctity of marriage but she clearly divorced her first husband because she outearned him. It wasn't that he was a bum (she says his salary was quite good) but sheer hypergamy. She tries to make an excuse he wasn't adventurous enough in bed or affectionate enough, but she only dropped hints setting him up for failure. She even says he loved her and she trashed the marr…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/09/24 03:17 PM
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Good observation about her not meeting someone through her largely masculine hobbies which ties into your observation about my arrow pointing to "financially secure" or "established". I actually thought those phrases were quite vague and told a woman friend I didn't have debt and had significant savings but what SHE says it means in bourgeois womanspeak is that the man owns MULTIPLE properties and has some investment income going on. It can be vague depending upon the socio-economic status of th…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/09/24 02:20 PM
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Logically, they wouldn't need to block someone if they had already swiped left on them unless, I suppose, that person later swiped right on them and that caused them to reappear in their feed.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/09/24 12:12 AM
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There's variations on "the burned haystack method" including that instead of simply swiping left and perhaps seeing that profile later, block them in order to keep them from re-appearing your feed later. In this woman's case, it had the desired effect in that by fully filtering out all the men that didn't meet her high demands, she saw that her standards were too high versus women who gripe about beta males in their feed but yet extract validation from them anyway. The interesting thing about cr…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/09/24 07:54 PM
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I think you miss the point of this post.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/08/24 03:06 AM
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So... you're free to ask her out, pay her way, hold open her doors, and entertain her.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/08/24 02:01 AM
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I think you referred that video to me and I watched and bookmarked it. Regarding women who want men to pay for them: I’m reminded of a claim that Frank Sinatra allegedly sang for his literal supper on Jackie Onassis’s yacht. Does a woman want a man to pay to put food in her mouth aside from being a 3-date 304? Well, here’s some tips: 1) Learn the art of conversation. Bring up interesting topics and see if they bounce off the other person until they get engaged. Listen to them to see what they wa…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/08/24 01:56 AM
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The phrase “meet women naturally” is worthy of a WATGMA post. When my father came of age, meeting women naturally was easy: 1/2 of people married before the age of 21 and met their spouses in high school, trade school, or at work or church. It didn’t take a lot of talent to go up to a girl, say hello, and ask her to dance. Women who watch romcom porn romanticize this era thinking that men back then all possessed the same talents as PUAs. This particular woman cries that she “has to” use the apps…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/08/24 10:37 PM
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I think their logic is this: “If I’m going to make it so easy for “low effort men” to use a dating app, they should bring MORE to the table!” So they raise their demands so if they tell their friends “Ick! I used a dating app but he’s 6 feet tall!” then they don’t suffer any shame (the worst thing they can go through). I asked a young woman friend of ours if she would like tips from me on how to find the kind of man she probably wants because she’s tall and not terribly good looking but she decl…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/08/24 09:19 PM
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In all fairness, I think this happens (also) because of men who decide to “spray and pray” and swipe right on hundreds of profiles with the logic that since there’s no cost-of-rejection like IRL, they may as well get some dopamine points of their own by getting as many responses as they can The problem with this is environmental: If enough men do this, like some PUA hitting on a dozen women in a cafe every day, it spooks the fish. My father was an avid fisherman (6AM to 4PM every Saturday for 40…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/08/24 06:52 PM
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The “tear down the Patriarchy for everyone’s sake!” narrative from them is such BS because they’ve actually strengthened it: Their entry into the workplace while still expecting men to work and pay the bills (teehee, it’s ok when women CHOOSE sexism!) means that wages are deflated and the cost of living rises which is precisely what the rich Patriarchs in charge wanted all along. They’ve been STOOGES for the Patriarchy. On the other hand, who has REALLY torn down the Patriarchy? Ahem, some histo…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/08/24 03:34 PM
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What they often mean by sub-par is if the man shows any sign of awkwardness or "arrogance" in his approach and doesn't perfectly balance "self-confident but sensitive". PUA's have academy award level acting skills considering that they practice their craft in the wild risking social shame while actors are able to rehearse in a controlled environment or get multiple "takes" from a director and supporting actors. Even so, granted, acting is one of the most competitive careers out there with only a…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/08/24 01:31 PM
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Minor quibble: Times likely have changed since dinosaurs roamed the Earth 40 years ago when I came of age, but back then, there were lots of sweet 18 year old hot girls who would happily fall in love with the first guy who asked her out in a classy fashion and followed through. I just wasn't mature enough, frankly, to step up to that role just yet but that's why I think there are a lot of these otherwise hot single mothers in their 20's out there. It really is about getting to the produce and fi…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/08/24 01:47 AM
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When I left the states I saw shit tests go down remarkably. I found women in general were more pleasant overall. In other words, shittests are a sign of immaturity, entitlement, or a lack of respect for men overall. This applies in business as well where there are shittests in that it’s a toxic environment.
/r/TheRedPill22/08/24 04:30 PM
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Posted at request of Typo-MAGAshiv. Original in WAATGM Forums Red.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/08/24 01:46 AM
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Hehehe. You know my generation. Bartles and James and Seagram’s wine coolers (pitched by Bruce Willis). Half of the girls didn’t know they had alcohol. Good times.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/08/24 09:29 PM
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One watering hole of "strong, successful women" is run by a man trying to advise them and he told them "Is the guy being uninteresting or lacking chemistry going to matter to you a decade from now when he's picking you up from the hospital?" The BEST aspects of a relationship are the boring ones. The basic decency of someone in their life they don't think they should thank a man for. I think women tend to make friends more easily than men (due to the nature of our culture) and so they have bette…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/08/24 01:59 PM
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I remember a conversation, almost like yesterday, nearly 40 years ago with a woman friend who said it was popular for her college age girlfriends to say that "they never want to get married" or act ambivalent about dating and go to a tower guarded by a dragon and expect a prince to scale the castle the wall to convince her of interest in a relationship. I found that the way to dry women's panties was to state "relationship' interests early on in the dating process not just to not mislead women b…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/08/24 06:53 PM
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The Onion did this in 2005: https://www.theonion.com/housewife-charged-in-sex-for-security-scam-1819567920
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/08/24 03:21 AM
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I'm thinking, also, that when women first got all these civil rights they were probably quite insecure. Feminists were trying to get the Equal Rights Amendment passed so they toned down the man hating rhetoric in the 70's. Once all these rights were clearly instilled in law and culture, they could reverse (at least in dating) to their one sided sexist standards against men. That's my guess since I came of age a decade later. Even after AIDS, pre-marital sex still happened but as this woman said,…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/08/24 09:18 PM
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What a wonderful story. Thanks for sharing! My 90 year old father-in-law will be visiting next week and I want to record a video of his childhood experiences for posterity because I think we don't really understand what life was like because it was considered so trivial back then nobody would write about it. I came of age just after you and this woman did and I got the impression I was arriving at a party that had just ended. The Austin Powers/Playboy party had just come to an end and it got pro…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/08/24 04:53 PM
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If you want a laugh, and can handle the cringe, watch this video of 500 days of summer, 103 seconds in, as how women think it's "magical" that relationships "just happen". They should just be sitting around and they "magically" meet someone and everything falls into place. https://youtu.be/bGaztzbzTpg?t=103 They don't realize it takes dozens of clumsy approaches from "creeps" for it to seem "natural" like Turkey's Yusuf Dikec's winning silver just casually shooting at the target. Networking outs…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/08/24 07:58 PM
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I really enjoyed that Hawn and Russell are an unmarried, long term couple who get along so well with each other and the "chemistry" showed in the film. I think it's a nice, wholesome family film. Hawn's bitchiness was delightful and when I hear this from my wife I shut it down. I love the combo question/complain/demand: "Is it too much to ask to get the item I just asked for?"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/08/24 06:36 PM
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I was recently thinking as I read some aging 40 and 50 something Carol's bemoaning how they were likely to remain alone for life, that an era I had come to take for granted was over: The notion of dating with the intention of having "relationships" where you'd eventually spend a life with that person. NEITHER men or women date with that intention anymore in that women date with the intention to "have fun" and men follow along in that dating with intention leads to a risk of being friendzoned or …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/08/24 03:28 AM
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I posted on the TRP forum for WAATGM one hit young woman who became disabled and then acutely aware of her loss of privilege. It was an interesting contrast to how most women lose it: through squandering time. Even so she lacked full awareness that if she couldn’t land Chad while she was walking she probably wouldn’t then. I’m reminded of the film Overboard where spoiled rich broad Goldie Hawk loses her memory and is told she’s actually poor and has to adopt a more pleasant disposition.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/08/24 11:02 PM
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Her biggest fertility problem is her personality.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/07/24 02:06 PM
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Funny you prompted me to google her and got this: https://www.today.com/popculture/linda-hamilton-reveals-she-s-been-celibate-15-years-t161767 "When I broke up with [James Cameron], I was completely devastated for years," she said. “But I’m so glad to be free of that. I would never, ever put that much energy again into something that is not working." As Eddie Murphy pointed out in his routine 30 years ago: Rich women don't have to do much of anything. Just have some sex once in a while and be ki…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/07/24 08:17 PM
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I chuckled because women's advice books largely boil down to just sticking to their demands or planning on remaining single. Did this woman ever hear of the term "PUA?" PUA requires being inauthentic at least to the point of getting laid and then after that, perhaps if she has something to offer keeping her around. If you drop your mask after that, what have you lost? It's like fretting about a 2 liter bottle taking itself to the recycling bin after you've drank the soda. In the case of older wo…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/07/24 02:59 PM
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The increase in the cost of a Big Mac is driven not only by wages but also the cost of the food, energy, and office space. Restaurants particularly in the states (not just McD's) enjoyed effectively subsidized labor in the form of cheap labor illegal immigrants who quietly worked under-the-table for cash. Ironically, after Biden allowed millions of asylum seekers in, they didn't have to fear deportation anymore and could simply go on welfare. Why bother working when you can get the same money fr…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/07/24 01:47 PM
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I think it's a few key thought processes: 1) The Oppressive Patriarchy they are in continual rebellion against will, of course, protect them from all the consequences of their actions. 2) Imported from USA white male guilt will work to shame 3rd world immigrants just as well as it did on local men. 3) Women victims can be used to justify ever more entitlements for women in the name of "equality". https://foxfordcomics.com/comic/voter-resignation/
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/07/24 01:40 PM
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Psychological terms contain a lot of gray areas particularly in a literal he-said-she-said situation. If you've ever watched The Sopranos, it explored how psychopaths such as Tony learned psychology precisely to excuse his own behavior and project it onto others. One such Carol I found learned all of the terms and applied them to men, without justification, while they applied to her such as DARVO. In college I dated a girl who majored in psychology and I actually played some bad-boy game on her.…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/07/24 09:02 PM
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Although the flair is Strong Independent Women, posting as weekend content because she's not yet complaining about not being able to find men. After all, she's going to freeze her eggs in her 30's and wait until her 40's to start a family. What Could Possibly Go Wrong?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/07/24 03:09 PM
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Actually, the definition of it is pure hypergamy: There is no "win:win" or improving a woman's life if a "scrote" puts in so much as 1% less effort/money than she does and to engage in sex and emotional deprivation to control him. It's a matter of principle: A woman should get more out of a relationship than a man.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/07/24 06:32 PM
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We're at a tipping point in our culture where men she desires largely don't need to keep women around at all unless they want a family and such women by the time they settle down are lousy family-startup material. I think they might have a chance is they doubled down and worked like men in relationships, but the whole purpose of their feminine ego craving ultra-masculine men is to be "looked after" and the fundamental tenet of Game, IMO, is essentially for the person to put their emotional needs…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/07/24 05:22 PM
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There was this hilarious discussion by aging Carols claiming, get this, that women "age better" than men because, after all, they do live longer and go to the doctor more often (but this is offset by women's unique hormonal issues) but she didn't consider that merely because someone is overall "conventionally aging well" doesn't mean they are attractive. Men who age are not less masculine. Clint Eastwood, up until recently at least, just looked more rugged (he looks a bit like a wild homeless gu…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/07/24 02:47 PM
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I should perhaps ask on the forum for contributions to "WAATGM Bingo" for key phrases to look for and "conventionally attractive" appears to be a phrase that occurs more regularly now. I suppose what it means is, quite frankly, average. They don't have obvious, highly unattractive deformaties such as obesity or missing limbs. But then again, aren't all the average men they reject also "conventionally attractive"? Unless a man is fat or bald, aren't most of us a face a "mother can love"?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/07/24 02:11 PM
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I'm glad I kept the post long in that there was a lot of gold that would be a shame to trim off such as her HS Reunion. How am I supposed to trim off such delicious tidbits? It reminds me of the fun film (great to watch with a girl) "Romy and Michele's High School Reunion". Someone asked why there are HS Reunions? I found them invigorating and life affirming. A bully came up to me, was kind, and apologized for his earlier behavior and said he was volunteering at church for penance. Former clique…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/07/24 05:24 PM
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I'm chuckling because this sort of happened to me. I (foolishly) fell in love with a MILF 30 years ago who was 20 years my senior and we had an "off and on again" relationship where I eventually came to realize that this wasn't healthy and broke it definitively off. I didn't want to hang out with her for ANY reason. Nonetheless, about 3 years later I referred a colleague to her for legal services because I think she's a good lawyer and out of curiosity I asked him what she looked like and he sai…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/07/24 01:52 PM
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I was thinking about this as well. She claims he called her a "crazy bitch" and while there is a component to gaslighting where someone's psychological credibility is attacked in order to undermine them, there is no false narrative presented. He probably didn't call her a "crazy bitch" out of the blue either but because she escalated it into an argument and started yelling at him. Women often claim to be the victims of abuse while yet bragging that they have the right to hit men but men can't hi…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/07/24 01:44 PM
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This is precisely why I wanted to include so much information even if it made the post incredibly long. She clearly tells two tales (even three) about her ex boyfriend: On the one hand that she intended to marry him, on the other that he was abusive, and on the third hand that he was a backup waiting for something better to come along. She also makes claims of being "conventionally attractive" but others saying she realizes she looks so awful she doesn't want to look at photos of herself anymore…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/07/24 10:21 PM
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Thank you for that. I was unaware of this masterpiece. I have bookmarked it. I'm also reminded of the Anna Nicole Smurfette show. I showed this to a Polish friend who had no idea of who Anna Nicole was and he was in shock: "Is this some kind of joke?" When I caught a few scenes of that show, I knew it wasn't going to go well for her but yet nobody could, or would, do anything but make a spectacle of it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCt46ZefkgA
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/07/24 08:39 PM
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Pardon the length of this post, please read below for my reasoning: Staring into the past can be a scary thing because I could have made many better decisions, but I am content with what I have: A wife, lovely daughter, and community (this includes many of you) as well as a feeling that I was a decent, albeit imperfect, person throughout my journey so far. I want to impart to my daughter to periodically look at herself from a future perspective looking back and saying: “What do I need to do now …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/07/24 07:55 PM
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I was thinking of the classic feminist line that goes: "Why should women be grateful to men for saving and protecting us? Are the men only saving us from each other?" And yet, consider that "strong and independent women", with their own jobs and even having gone to karate class, then only desire even STRONGER protectors to "feel" protected and taken care of. The MORE "independence" they get, the MORE needy they become! It's like they're vampires who need ever more blood as their thirst grows the…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/07/24 09:04 PM
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https://taskandpurpose.com/military-life/brief-history-jody-original-mr-steal-girl/
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/07/24 07:57 PM
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I'm going to my 40th reunion and have many facebook friends from that era who will LOVE this on their birthday feed. Much thanks.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/07/24 11:23 PM
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It degraded gradually over time, perhaps accelerating at some point. We still had Christmas parties in the 90's but by Y2K, most corporations would have potlucks and small gift exchanges and then by 2010 all vestiges of Christmas were largely eradicated. That sort of thing. Anita Hill's accusations were in 1991, the opening of that decade and I knew several guys who lost their jobs over the slightest faux pas. It was clear back then that the majority of these accusations of "harassment" were usu…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/07/24 10:52 PM
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They can thank feminism for this. The series "Mad Men" is a leftist interpretation of the 1950's, but it nonetheless has many observation about how incredibly more open and free people were back then. Office Christmas parties where people got drunk and if a drunk secretary ran over a guy's foot with a lawnmower, it was all in a day's work. Up to the late 1990's, it was almost like living in a lost Roman era. But hey, someone made a fart joke in front of a "reasonable" woman who is offended by ne…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/07/24 07:01 PM
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My father told me a story about when he applied for work at Sikorsky aircraft in 1957. He interviewed with a guy with an Italian name name and the interviewer asked him why he didn't maybe try to use a fake name because Poles were discriminated against. My father said he hoped his work ethic would be considered and the guy said that he had changed his Polish surname to Italian and my father got the job. An old man came around and was chatting people up and said hello to my father and my father r…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/07/24 06:49 PM
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Here's Alexander Grace's analysis that uses numbers collected over decades from Danish sources, as I recall. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeYts4AzRUo&t=420s
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/07/24 07:34 PM
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It's funny you should mention the DMV because Seinfeld also compared dating to the DMV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBH7CMrmmgI I want to keep things in scope of the discussion, of course, so what I'll observe is that the flaw with capitalism is the people just as it is with "equality" feminism and communism: As we gripe about the abysmal state of relationships today, it's due to a combination of factors across economic systems: The welfare state, divorce courts, and government mandated affi…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/07/24 12:21 PM
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I'm chuckling that the free market has celebrated destroying society for a quick Lenin Capitalist Hanging Rope profit: "A diamond is forever! Particularly a NATURAL one!" "This Armani handbag costs only $2000!!!! It's STYLISH. (Oh, made by Chinese laborers for $100)" "Destroy your 20s so you can work long hours for our corporate profits! It's ok because we'll import cheap 3rd worlder democrat voters to replace you". Corporate America is happy to double down on girl-power messaging to women inclu…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/07/24 04:31 AM
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I did something similar to this a year ago giving helpful, kind, suggestions on things she could work on and no response. I suppose it's like this with them: The whole POINT of a relationship with a "real man" is the man should do nearly all the work (with a few gestures on her part) because it's all about entitlement. You can't EARN "entitlement" because it's what you DESERVE. Female "game" in this regard is to figure out ways to shame men, cheap manipulation tactics, or come up with more deman…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/07/24 02:33 AM
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Alexander Grace did an incredible video on statistics that showed that something like 25% of women are now bi-sexual along with a significant number of women who are asexual. Add in hypergamy and entitlement queens, women with mental disorders, single mothers and such, and sheesh the odds do even up somewhat. Back in my 20's when MILFs were invaluable providers of sexual experience, I found that they were easier to get along with than the younger women. Note I didn't say it was a picnic with eit…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/07/24 10:22 PM
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I edited out (for space) some of her comments where she says she sometimes tries to slip the "gentleman" some money to make up for all the lavish dates he takes her on, but that comes across to me as a form of cheap sentiment such as a man putting away one or two dishes while expecting the woman to do all of the cooking and cleaning. The challenge is that no matter how hard she tries to "improve herself", get a few hobbies and such, doesn't solve the underlying problem that she's getting less ho…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/07/24 02:34 PM
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The news stories on IVF have them thinking they have until 38 or so to "settle". What doesn't occur to them is that men have "standards" too and just as they will dump an otherwise perfect guy whose 1/2 inch shorter than their minimum height requirement or they insist on a certain numbers dates for a beta to bed them, the men who will wife them up and have kids also will require time to vet them PARTICULARLY since he's on the hook financially. It's interesting how the turns-table in that young m…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/07/24 06:09 PM
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I saw that post and I have one ready (edited and everything ready). I suppose I'll post it now under leftovers. She's hilarious. I think that many woman in the states, particularly professional women, have been raised to almost be asexual lesbians who enjoy other women's company. They sit with each other when they attend meetings, gossip with other women, and generally find men to be a chore to deal with. They are raised as feminists to see men as oppressors or "queens" to regard men as their se…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/07/24 01:40 AM
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My wife is (secretly) happy to have me around. Whether it's to borrow my car if she needs to drop hers off for an day of maintenance, or I pick up the girl when she's busy at work, or I pick her up at the doctor when she needs a ride home, it's like that song "Lean on me" Lean on me When you're not strong And I'll be your friend I'll help you carry on... On an advice forum I mine for entitled career Carols, the guy tries to advise these women that the "nice guys" they view as pathetic because th…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/07/24 05:24 AM
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Interesting because I think it's the opposite: Calling it out should be consistent across genders. That said, I did something similar back about 30 years ago where I realized that being RP was actually pretty "cool" in that precisely because the beta males would deride me and I didn't give a heck about blowback, it gave me a badboy rep. One of the secret wisdom of RP is that women LIE about what they want. They say they want "nice guys" to be supportive and let them have their way, and then they…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/07/24 01:37 AM
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That is essentially Eff Dee Ess: Women by "raising their standards" give men something to live up to because a real man enjoys being a protector and provider who must prove his worthiness. The more demanding she is, the more attractive she becomes. She also shows that she's not "easy" and therefore is exclusive, much like how people will wait in long lines for a nightclub because it must be a hot venue, yes? What's amazing is: THIS ACTUALLY DOES WORK. It works on young, horny, inexperienced men …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/07/24 11:34 PM
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When I started drilling down into the history, I thought "Oh, a typical hypergamy heightist, aging woman whose hitting the wall" and then I hit on the Botox AND balding and knew I had WAATGM gold on my hands. She LOATHES men who LIE! on their profiles and say they're 5'11 rather than a mere inch TALLER than her! SHE CAN TELL!!! These men are worse than HITLER! But yet, here she is nearly (fully) bald and has so much snake poison injected into her forehead that she's about to pass out but does SH…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/07/24 02:11 AM
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Sir, at the risk of revealing I really need to get my colonoscopy scheduled, may I suggest you read "The Midas Plague"? A wonderful tome by Frederick Pohl and Cyril Kornbluth. Cyril Kornbluth also wrote "The Marching Morons" which was the basis of the film "idiocracy" and the line in Robocop "I'd buy THAT for a dollar!" In The Midas Plague, a society of consumers is born where people are required to consume in order to justify the massive industrial complex generating goods. I think it was kind …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/07/24 02:44 AM
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Again, I'm saying that we simply don't need more people as automation increases. The call for high birthrates and imported workers is so the oligarchs who are lousy administrators (aside from protecting their own interests) need cheap labor because they lack the skill to succeed otherwise. I chuckle when I hear how I should worship hedge fund managers and such. Aside from some of them being business geniuses at making money and building empires, they don't generate much benefit to society. Regar…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/07/24 11:57 PM
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She thinks she's doing as much as she can to empathize with them, but it's not enough. She pays for (third) dates and appears to try to be easy to get along with. Her problem is probably she's chasing after men who are (usually) better looking than she deserves or socio-economically situated to be cautious. As she knows, her age group means that nearly all the men in there aren't stupid 20 somethings ready to marry the first girl they lay. They've either been divorced, gone through painful break…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/07/24 11:49 PM
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Thank you. I took inspiration from the Nobel prize winning novel (and later film) "With Fire and Sword" by Henryk Sienkiewicz which offers perspectives into the original cultural rebellion against the nobility (nearly 2 centuries before the American Revolution) and the cultural conflicts between Poland, Ukraine, Russia and (in later novels) Islam and Sweden. (Oh, for the days when the Swedes were a force to be feared and reckoned with!) Wonderful films and books and if you're into Conan the Barb…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/07/24 11:27 PM
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I'd like to dispute that claim, if you don't mind. High birthrates were needed when countries needed large armies to defend themselves (or to conquer other territory, same thing) and to work the fields when agriculture was not automated and there was no mass fertilizer. Fritz Haber won the nobel prize for his procedure to generate ammonia. There's automation in other ways as well: the cotton gin, polyester clothes, and so on. After all, CEO's get huge bonuses from their announcements of laying o…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/07/24 11:23 PM
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Here's why: She wants to feel "special" so men need to cater to her AND she wants "tingles" otherwise she'll be unhappy. Her FEELINGS are the most important thing. Her story SCREAMS that she's like a childish adolescent who can show up for work and pay her own bills, but aside from that she's mentally a teenager looking for a daddy to take care of her. This begs the question as to what kind of single mother she'd be. Is she aware that children have nothing but time on their hands looking to get …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/07/24 03:26 PM
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The funny part is how she appears to actually get this a bit in that men don't like to pay for "everything" so she graciously pays for the 3rd date. Imagine if a man said, hey, a woman hates having to do ALL the housework or childcare so I change diapers 2 days a week! I just argued with someone similar to that on facebook (which I rarely do, since I have relatives who can view my comments elsewhere if they are curious) with some women griping about how men don't do equal shares of housework and…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/07/24 02:31 PM
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The obvious answer to this reminds me of a posting I saw a while ago by a guy saying that he paid for a "bachelor pad" for years that seriously cost him money he could have invested. After downsizing and renting a room, he saw his dating options dwindle but he was banking serious money. I saved about $1000/month during my bachelor years renting rooms. Then there's the cost of a car that women insist men have to impress her even if he lives in a city where it's better to get around by metro. I us…
/r/TheRedPill01/07/24 01:28 AM
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There were these golden periods in human mating over the past century. Up to 1920, the idea of men picking up girls at her parent's home and plying her with booze and free dinners and trying to have sex with her would have gotten him beaten up. Divorce was rare up to then and difficult to get with men fretting about paying alimony and women fearing social ostracization. From 1940 to 1970, divorce was increasingly common as women could get their own careers and double dip on child-support. Out-of…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/07/24 01:03 AM
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What I find interesting is how disconnected such women are from what men desire as well as what they think they're providing. Unless I'm mistaken, I think in context the first woman is saying that men desire, quote, "Youth slim, beauty" and a balance between women being "needy" but also being "independent" enough to not be a pain in the ass but instead these men should be searching for, quote, "kindness, respect, excellent communication skills, willingness to apologize". For starters, as you sai…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/06/24 11:50 PM
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Millennial women are asked to watch Seinfeld and see if it's funny. Their humorless responses are, in a way, quite funny and would make a great Seinfeld episode in themselves: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5BxjUmzPPA
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/06/24 02:05 PM
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I was thinking about this recently and I have this epiphany: Men "overestimate" themselves, or at least we don't care, about our looks in the context of how other MEN judge us. Yes, I'm not good looking and I know this, but I don't worry about it too much because I have depended upon my personal success since I was young. I am under no illusions how women judge me. With women, it's the opposite: They fret about being judged by other women SO much, they spend billions on designer handbags, snake …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/06/24 03:05 AM
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I’m chuckling how dual-mating strategy has gone topsy-Turvy in the past half century. The smart woman of the past snagged nerds with income potential and even seemed like good wives. Then when he was at work 60 hours a week, she could think of herself as neglected and cheat on him with hot bad boys. Yes, she’d be a single mother after it fell apart, but she would have child support and alimony. Ideally she’d even cuck the guy to put him on the hook for bad boy seed. Women also back then spoke in…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/06/24 09:24 PM
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One game women play is to rationalize their thinking hoping that will impart it to reality. I've found that women are cruel and nasty to men they find unattractive since they equate that with him needing to be a "loser" or "jerk". That say, she's not "shallow" but merely has "standards" for "good men". They also project their own behavior onto "men" in that if a handsome guy treats her with disdain, then ALL men are like that. Women are obsessed with magic. Men like to read sci-fi which is based…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/06/24 02:22 PM
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“Mid 40s” = about 47. Women don’t hit their “late 40s” until the last month of 49. She’s so lucky that after he commits to her she’s on the hook for alimony.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/06/24 03:40 AM
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“Hyper independent but want provider and protector” Translation: “you protect me and pay for things but don’t expect any thanks but transactional sex when I’m in the mood since I don’t “need” you.”
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/06/24 03:36 AM
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Paying for pussy is mind blowing. PUA is about being a performing seal to get laid, beta-dating is about begging for it via gifts of food and servitude, and paying for sex is perhaps the closest thing a normie can come to feeling like an alpha. I wouldn't recommend doing it every week, but just a few times is interesting to experience the paradigm of being as entitled to sex as like when you pay for a chicken dinner at a restaurant and they bring it to you. Even married men still have to ask the…
/r/TheRedPill22/06/24 01:58 AM
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There's two elements to TRP: One is to embrace painful self-improvement and painful truths but far larger is the other which is decades, even centuries, of shaming ploys used to make us do things for women and society with little expectation of reciprocity. In that context, men need to learn to socialize more overall not just to provide validation and attention to women to try to get laid. I go to pick up my child at school and see the women all talking to each other while the men are playing wi…
/r/TheRedPill21/06/24 02:22 PM
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Every day in the car we practice timestables or review how she's doing in school and I tell her I simply want her to grow up to be successful in her life, not be a loser, and to have awareness of what's going on. I plan to start her on a RP reading list next summer when she can handle normal books such as George Washington's book on manners, social skills, body language, and so on. There's also Learning Annexes and community college classes. These are all inexpensive and powerful ways to engage …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/06/24 11:09 PM
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It depends upon the district, of course. Something different about us compared to regular Americans is that we have our own Slavic culture going to church, events, parties, and such with largely non-American mindsets. I have a relative who spent $200K on a private Catholic school and his daughter turned out slutty. I interact with my daughter's curriculum, provide her feedback, earn and retain her trust, and have outside learning exercises. I suppose in a way we have a "home school"/Amish style …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/06/24 01:40 AM
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It’s not feminism that killed housewifery so much as the court system and trad-fems. A plump aging restaurant manager told me she wanted to quit her job and become a housewife but she’d be doing me a favor if I manned up and bought a big home, luxury car, $10,000 diamond (exact amount) and she quit her job. I said I wasn't man enough, while laughing, and it was all liability and no gain for me. I wasn't interested in killing myself to buy her crap to impress other women. There is some merit to s…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/06/24 12:27 AM
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A middle aged “boss babe” at work decided to appoint herself overseer of her colleagues’ work and criticize us and we all calmly to management she was disrupting our workflow. She was reprimanded and apologized (sincerely) saying she didn’t have a right to quote “quality check” our work. That’s their mindview: they’re making the world a better place by cracking a whip on our backs to meet their “standards” while they, by definition, are born perfect. We flawed men need to earn basic human accept…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/06/24 12:18 AM
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Back 35 years ago, it wasn't uncommon for (otherwise) attractive and likable women to reach their 30's because they were refusing to ask men out or to initiate conversation which I referred to as "the corporate nunnery". I asked a 20 year old plain-looking daughter of a friend of mine if she wanted tips on "game" to get men and she said that she wanted the "traditional" courtship of a serendipitous meeting such as him striking up a conversation with her in a cafe and asking her out. As you obser…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/06/24 03:10 PM
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One caveat: it’s wise when a young woman marries at her peak SMV and RMV but many of them fail to realize or accept that cashing in on a value doesn’t make it an entitlement. Mercenary behavior has been normalized but that doesn’t make it moral.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/06/24 04:38 PM
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I use different colors to cover up usernames if they are different commenters.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/06/24 03:22 AM
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There's a classic post "the most mature teenager in the house" that argues that women do "mature" faster, but only because they absorb "maturity" at a young age to a certain point: http://no-maam.blogspot.com/2012/06/woman-most-responsible-teenager-in.html One can achieve maturity via careful introspection and trial-and-error which does involve doing stupid things AND learning from them versus someone who merely ingests the collective "wisdom" of the hivemind "girl clique" they belong to. The wa…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/06/24 09:25 PM
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That's a large generalization. I can think of circumstances where I'd have gone for this. My early 20's were a struggle. If a reasonably good looking 60 yo woman wanted some action and was going to sponsor me, help me with my education, and get me setup, I'd be loyal to her even to my early 50's. Then with her gone, I could marry a younger woman and have kids. Or heck, she might even be willing to pay for a surrogate. My point being that the concept of utilizing relationships for personal gain f…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/06/24 09:14 PM
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Great minds think alike. That's largely what my own personal path was like. I dated older women in my 20's and early 30's, then having established myself married a 26 year old foreign woman. But yeah, few men are going to complain if a sugar mama wants to have sex with a younger man, give him experience, without any cost or expense to him. Oh, no! Anything but that! But not only do most of these women not want this, they also are shamed by their women friends if they do it. Heck, for all this ta…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/06/24 09:10 PM
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A new 2023 Nissan Versa can be had for $16K (not including delivery/taxes/BS doc fees) The Chinese car probably won't be street legal. Granted, I think that airbags are what is driving up the price of a car (and have minimal safety benefits). How often it will break down will factor into cost of ownership.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/06/24 01:35 AM
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Some of them can and find it fun to shame the men for overestimating their height by a mere inch of so. So they want an authentic 6 footer simply for the status. Think about what that's like from our side: Imagine a hot guy with a good job telling a woman whose into him that he has to have a woman with a true D cup, not a mere C 1/2 and if she's over 130, like 131, he just can't accommodate her. It ENRAGES them if men do that and the dating apps even accommodated them by refusing numbers for wei…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/06/24 01:20 AM
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Watch Caredge. Lots of great tips. I got my (new) CX-5 at 2000 below msrp on New Year’s Eve.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/06/24 09:15 PM
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You miss the point: she’s a beggar, not a chooser. She also has conflicting expectations: a traditional man who pays for things and takes care of her but also liberal. Judge not, that ye be judged. Matthew 7
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/06/24 09:13 PM
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I just finished reading With Fire and Sword. While it was translated from Polish to English (it wasn't my childhood language and Polish is a tough language to read in), I found it surprisingly a pleasurable read. The tragedy of the Khmelnytsky Uprising is similar to that of the French and Bolshevik revolutions that followed. Many westerners aren't aware of it, but it's astonishing that these anti-feudal concepts were discussed 4 centuries ago or perhaps that's just something Henryk Sienkiewicz i…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/06/24 02:41 AM
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If she asked me this kind of question, I'd probably shoot off on a lecture on the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and how it was the origin of modern anti-feudal republics and call for an immediate binge watch of With Fire and Sword, The Deluge, and Colonel Wolodyjowski and suggest she pencil out a full day. As a Polish knight, I can only treat women as ladies if their father has huge tracts of land to offer as a dowry, otherwise wenches need to enter through the rear door and clean the home befo…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/06/24 12:43 AM
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Er, I don't think anyone here will disagree with you. The guy is better off. There are lots of woke guys who also are old fashioned and into bailing out single mothers.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/05/24 05:04 PM
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I learned to turn this against them in that once I realized how many women made paid dinner dates their hill-to-die-on, I decided to concede it. OK, I paid for dates but 1) I no longer dated plain looking women, 2) I split plates with them (very cozy, no leftovers), 3) I pick the restaurant, 4) We don't go out that often. 5) I never feel guilty if my wife does more housework than me. If even found that women had bought into their "romantic" rationalization for paid meal dates so much that women …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/05/24 02:38 PM
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Well, LoTL, that's precisely why feminism was created to give women "independence" and "their own jobs" to buy their own stuff with THEIR money while you as Provider pay for all the sundry bills. Like, say, you can pay for dinner while they'll pay the 20% tip. See! Equality! You can't boss them around but you're stuck with the majority of expenses. This backfired on a friend of mine's ex when she thought she'd win cash-and-prizes in divorce court but wound up with joint custody and zero alimony …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/05/24 02:50 AM
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I chuckled that she says she doesn’t have pets and doesn’t want him to bring any either. He’s a cash cow to provide for her and her kids and nothing personal for him. Not even a fish or cat.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/05/24 12:23 AM
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It violates Rule 3 (please read if you haven't already) for I think this reason: If someone says this, it can be used out-of-context by naysayers out there "See? Even THEY agree that women aren't unreasonable in their standards.) If she was smart, and had just used the term "generous" once, it wouldn't sound so bad but she used it twice and then engaged to shame men who might not be so "loving" with his money. She describes herself as a slim fashion model but the photos say otherwise (note how t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/05/24 09:14 PM
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For space considerations, I edited some material out. I may post a blooper on the WAATGM forum.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/05/24 12:11 AM
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This is a year’s worth of a Scorpio’s personal posts/comments climaxing in an epiphany, but not in chronological order for readability (timestamps are visible though). As a Sagittarius, was thinking to expand new horizons and (perhaps) this could be flared Epiphany or even The Big Question but one of the moderators could be a Taurus so posting as Single Mom Tears, weekend content. TL;dr: Feel free to read the intro and skip to the end and then read the middle later particularly if you’re a Virgo…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/05/24 06:31 PM
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About 28 years ago I met a plump, 33 y/o manager of Dennys on match. She played all the games on me and flaked, but after a 3rd date consummation and going to Sunday church, she told me over a brunch she wanted to quit, cancel that, "sacrifice" (her exact word) her job and become a SAH suburban mother in a McMansion, Luxury car, and $10,000 engagement ring (that exact figure). Would I "man up" and be interested? I honestly burst out laughing. I told the story later to my old Swiss women friends …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/05/24 01:42 PM
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His only mistake in that case is that he didn't troll her. Tell the golddigger you have EVERYTHING she's looking for and then have a casual conversation and wait for her to make a "gaffe" where she talks about her dog. "Oh, that could be a problem. I'm allergic to dogs." Let everything go as normal and then say you don't think things can work out. This also works for obnoxious job interviews. Tell the hiring manager you have 2 degrees, and all of it, and then when they make an offer say you don'…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/05/24 04:54 PM
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Dziekuje. My father spoke Polish but not in the house so I learned it via book and audio and my grammar is terrible.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/05/24 06:04 PM
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(Very) minor quibble: She says she's willing to compromise if the guy she meets in person is perhaps an inch shorter than 5'11" AND he's super buff, educated, and earns at least as much as her. She's not unreasonable as she sees it hence why she had to fire that therapist who was telling her things she didn't need to hear. I don't think she was going to find this unicorn even in her 20's unless perhaps in college which would give the guy a chance to have her consider him because income would be …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/05/24 04:13 PM
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What puzzles me is how women increasingly are disconnected from what (from a man's point of view) actual feminine beauty is. My wife said one of the mothers at our school is attractive but the facial work the woman had done gave her duck lips and those protruding cheek bones. This is what this woman above means by "looking done". It's like women showing off designer handbags and lots of tattoos: Yes, those cost money but are they actually attractive?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/05/24 10:15 PM
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I'm reminded of a funny story I read back in the origins of the internet: A guy met a girl via chat online (this is before ICQ!) and he flew to meet her and she was, quote, "the fattest woman he had ever seen" and he slept with her. "Why?" his friends asked. He responded: "Because I had to get something for my money." Then there's the OLD Pig Woman experiment. Also, there are men who wouldn't have sex with a 60 year old woman, but 40 years later when he's 60 he'll go for it not necessarily becau…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/05/24 02:12 AM
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Back in the 1990's, and for many here that's ancient history, I knew many of women as Corporate Nuns. They were slightly frigid (because they hadn't gotten much sexual attention) having gone to work, shopping, and then home for more than a decade. Looking back, there were a lot of them that could have been quite good for me: many of them had money and property from all that time working. These are probably a rare bird now that OLD is mainstream.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/05/24 03:27 PM
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The air quotes in the sense of having to marry someone less attractive than we're turned on to although there are lots of men who do that. Why ask out a girl you don't find pretty enough to have sex with? That's largely the problem this woman has: All the men who ask her out, and presumably wine-dine-and-entertain her, are not the men she finds attractive. Well, if you want someone attractive then pay for their time (one way or another!)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/05/24 03:24 PM
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You're so daft. If not for her driving it off the lot, they'd have to clean the car weekly and pay for maintenance. Sometimes they play themselves. Back 30 years ago, a woman in my friend circle said that it was popular for women to say: "I don't want to get married. It's such a burden!" (the man should somehow sell it to her). A friend of ours lovely daughter in her late 20's had been living with a guy for 5 years, not married and no plans to start a family. She eventually had enough and left. …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/05/24 02:28 AM
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I'm reminded of the tale of Twilight actor Robert Pattinson who took a stalker out to dinner and then bored her with beta male whining and she didn't bother him again. Perhaps she sees her chad husband as "too beta" and loving her too much. My wife had an aging Russian golddigger hair stylist who bagged a corporate executive and after she married him, my wife says she switched from being feminine and supportive to him in public to demanding and entitled. She spent $100,000 on a kitchen remodel f…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/05/24 02:07 AM
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One common phrase they use is that they need to have "chemistry" but at the same time, need to also conform to female hive-mind cultural dictates. If a 60 year old man wants to get turned on by a pretty girl, and most of the women his age aren't pretty to him anymore, he'll consider dating younger women because younger women tend to be hotter. There will be people who will talk behind his back about it and... so what? But women are different: The very thing that they are attracted to in men is d…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/05/24 01:57 AM
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I'm reminded of a quote a facebook friend posted yesterday: "We don't walk away to teach people a lesson. We walk away because we finally learned ours."
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/05/24 07:08 PM
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I actually had a discussion with a pop-psychologist "relationship advisor" 30 years ago and she said that every woman is special and SHE just happened to prefer tall, rich, chivalrous, but slightly edgy guys but OTHER women could pick schmoes like, er, me. So it all works out! It's like they think how communism works where EVERYONE else can sweep streets, install toilets, take out trash, and wait tables while she'll pick the "job" of being an ex-housewife to Kevin Costner overseeing a bevy of se…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/05/24 06:16 PM
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Rule 3: This is a real "post". It was from a discussion.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/05/24 05:25 PM
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I thought about this analogy as well but it breaks down in one aspect: Us men are accustomed to knowing that our desires have a cost but women are raised to believe that relationships should not only be utterly free, but even profitable for them. The men she desires should approach her, shower her with gifts, and then BEG her to take overpriced shiny rocks off of his hand and thank her for doing HIM a favor. Numerous men perform up to this paradigm even if they aren't as desirable OR are only in…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/05/24 05:23 PM
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She's judgmental above about men who lie and don't want to commit to her but then she says later she has a child with such severe problems she wants to lie (even if by admission) to others about what a trainwreck her life is.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/05/24 06:05 PM
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It beats the bar bathroom selfie photos. :-)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/05/24 04:09 PM
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I chuckled at the line: "I have to get the conversations started and going" meaning she was accustomed to the fish just jumping into her bucket. This brings back memories of my father, RIP, who loved to go fishing. He did this for fun: He'd wake up at 5AM on a Saturday morning, drive an hour to get to the lake, sit in a rowboat with a thermos of ice coffee (which was insane back then but now it's popular in coffee shops) and sit for hours waiting for hits from the fish until about 4PM when he'd …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/05/24 04:01 PM
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Just as I believe there are few actual "incels", there are few actual "invisible" women. In the past, back in the old days, men of all shapes and sizes could proposition a woman at the workplace, grocery store, and such and the women would perhaps politely decline or at least consider the prospect of a nice drink with a normal looking guy if nobody hot had asked her out for a month. That was the era of the mid 1980's when I had just come of age. It was still annoying to me back then for this bur…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/05/24 01:26 AM
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I'm going through a classic novel right now on that very topic: "Madame Bovary". She was a bored housewife who decided to run up a large line of credit to live "the good life" and then saddled that debt upon her husband.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/05/24 08:23 PM
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Something that wasn't caught yet by observant readers is that her announcement of the kids including one icon with a baby bottle meaning she just squeezed one out in the past 3 years. This notion of chivalrous Christianity is a product of romanticism similar to our modern notion of hell that's not based upon Biblical scriptures, but rather the classic (very good book!) Dante's Inferno. Women were not all housewives. Up until even the period of the USA civil war, the majority of women worked in a…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/05/24 11:22 PM
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This is a tough one to decipher: claims to have gotten knocked up at 17 but looks a decade older. Wants a sugar daddy or merely a professional? Maybe a combination of both? Enjoys driving “fast cars”. What does that mean? She drives fast cars on a racetrack? Or does she get traffic tickets on the I-15? My wife is friends with a single mother in this age range and the rich boyfriend patted her 16 year old daughter’s ass while living with him so she broke up with him but there was this awkward 6 m…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/05/24 12:40 PM
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I stand by my observation that human females largely bred with whom males determined or rutted at random and this largely is how they breed today based upon all the bailout single mothers today.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/05/24 12:31 PM
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Keep in mind that aside from a specific period of human history, males determined mating, period. This notion of a two parent family with the male provider/protector is largely a romanticized thing for the past 2 or 3 centuries or so. Fathers gave away their daughters to either good men (based upon socio-economic status but also religion) or "bride price" or for political purposes. Serfs had a mate because the landowner needed servants to farm the land. Think about this concept of an alpha noble…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/05/24 12:40 AM
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Minor disagreement: There are so many cats that need homes, even a home with one of these harpies is better than nothing. Cats and boxed wine sell well for a reason: They're super. I'm drinking Costco boxed Pinot at this moment. Cats refuse to put up with nonsense and they'll simply withdraw and force these women to treat them with basic respect. If only they could understand that message from men...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/05/24 01:11 AM
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I remember these mental contortions 30 years ago when discussing this online in the early Internet and an early 20's college girl said: "Men have it good! They GET to ask women out while women HAVE to wait! If we try to ask men out, the men complain about being bothered!" What happens when someone whose built all these rationalizations gets venture capital and then decides to build a platform based upon their collective delusions? That's how Bumble was born: "Women will be just like Chad and abl…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/05/24 12:12 AM
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What we heard from the 1990's onward was that women hated being pestered by undesirable men and implemented social policies to that effect to discourage unwanted men from doing so basically like the princess hiding in the tower patrolled by a dragon that only "worthy suitors" would scale. That era, between 1990 and 2005 or so was an interesting time or as I like to call it "The golden age of corporate nuns". I deflowered a 33 year old virgin professor. There were women going months, even years, …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/05/24 07:50 PM
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That's reasonable, in a sense, that their entire lives up to age 30 is one of massive entitlement not only due to SMV economic forces, but cultural and political as well. Heck, it's so bad that it's surprising when there are women out there who are grounded in reality. That being said, there are plenty of men out there who have told them off and they quickly dismiss them or get angry and stomp away because they don't want to hear it so they deserve accountability for that choice. The Truth Is Ou…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/04/24 10:16 PM
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Just had an epiphany. There's a line in the film "Up in the Air" (wonderful film) where the protagonist is a confirmed bachelor road warrior and his sister says: "You lead an isolated life" and he looks around the airport and says: "I'm surrounded". This woman isn't "alone". She can get buckets of validation and attention simply by going to a bar or online. She just said she has no problems getting dates although she may be worried, correctly, that her looks can fade someday. I had a girlfriend …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/04/24 03:44 PM
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My little sister said two (cancel that three!) wonderful things in that regard. When she was in her dating peak and we were at the dinner table, she griped: "All men care about it sex" and my father chuckled and said "Looks like nothing has changed for the past million years or so". This tied into her later posting a personal ad that said: "If sex is ALL you want, then you're not getting it!" which is sort of like telling a dog that if he does tricks in the expectation of treats, he's not gettin…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/04/24 12:44 PM
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Note that this concept of the male as a provider is largely a 1900 to 1990 kind of deal. For the rest of civilized history, The Patriarchy chose women's mates or in the savannah, the females just rutted with whatever man was available or, well, would take her (consent wouldn't apply before the invention of language.)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/04/24 12:35 PM
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Disclaimer: Widows are usually given a wide berth because their entry to the dating market later in life isn't their fault, but this one's attitude deserves a prize.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/04/24 02:07 PM
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That's true but granted, this guy was Mr. Mom for 20 years. He raised three of the kids as a single dad for a decade while working 50 hours a week. I'm exhausted even saying it. He's proud that he managed to get his kids to the finish line (so to speak) and in families of their own including kids. Modern women love to make a big deal about tasks that men, as well as women of old, did without blinking an eye: Pay your own bills as an independent woman? My father was doing that at age 16. Squeeze …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/04/24 06:58 PM
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It's sad that this can't be "fixed" with a few generations of social darwinism. Women are simply women and these women are victims of their culture and negligent parenting (from the culture of their parents) but nonetheless, as legal adults they should be held accountable because there are young women who can hopefully learn from their mistakes. Men have gotten all the shaming for the past 4 centuries and these women need it today.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/04/24 01:47 PM
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I have a dear friend this happened with. She's a lovely Polish girl (looks like Kate Hudson) and she dated an upper middle class guy who owns a restaurant in her early 20's and his family didn't like her because she's Polish. After about 3 years she moved on and married another guy and has 4 kids with him 15 years later. What's amazing is that she continued to work in his restaurant for another decade and was friends with him and the husband was ok with that. The guy wound up dating a trust-fund…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/04/24 12:35 PM
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A friend of mine just had all three of his kids get married and have kids in the past 3 years so 6 grandkids in three years. He retired and loving going to all their houses and babysitting and helping out. Yes, that's not the same as kids of your own but he loves kids.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/04/24 12:31 PM
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I don't think it's solely that (although it could be). What makes this one interesting is that doesn't want to use OLD (yet) but still wants the 20 year old princess experience: A guy she finds handsome and has a good job should "pursue" her. Men don't enjoy pursuing women aside from concerns that maybe a woman is too "easy" and therefore has a high body count. Men who have options simply don't need to put up with ANY games she throws at him hence why all the men who do aren't giving her tingles…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/04/24 03:31 AM
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That reminds me that about 30 years ago, a BP guy tried to shame me by calling me a "whore monger". Looking back, it makes sense that this slur would work on him quite effectively hence why he used it on me to which I responded with amusement. It would be like a vegetarian calling someone an "animal eater". I've been RP for so long, I suppose I forget what it was like to be shamed like that into putting up with this nonsense. I have a funny line I like to use against those online who hurl the "i…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/04/24 07:26 PM
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Dude, I think the whole point is that if you were to even try to hook up with this awesome single mother, you'd need to go through 5X (no exaggeration) this to even being to qualify to be her beta male supplicant. But if you want the elevator pitch, here goes: She's an AWESOME single mother who doesn't need men, but she lives by her (loser) ex-husband to help raise HER daughter that she's using for personal intimacy and validation along with dozens of beta males that tell her how great she is an…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/04/24 03:20 AM
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I'm curious. Prostitution is legal in Australia, yes? (Not the ordinary kind in the USA such as golddiggers, meal whores, and so forth). Why would men provide any attention or validation to women such as this when sex can be had for the price of a second-hand iphone?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/04/24 11:59 PM
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I only posted 1/5th of her total rant (which was quite magnificent) and she continues to live near her ex-husband/father-of-her-child and his family hinting that they are an asset to helping to raise her child as a "single" mother. I betcha she gets child-support as well. Women do not communicate like men. If I say: "This person never does anything for me, I'm all alone" I mean that they literally do not do anything for me. When a woman says that, she means that ASIDE from paying child-support, …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/04/24 07:18 PM
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I chose "bitch" for flair although "psycho bitch" and "damaged goods" came to mind. If you think this is a bit long, I edited out about 75% of the total rant while the independent and strong women cheered her on for "telling it like it is". If enough of you request, I could perhaps post multi-parts but this is the gist of it.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/04/24 02:36 PM
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Forgive my vulgarity. I go to the store at 10PM and they mark down the most delicious cakes to $5 because they're at the end of the day. It's impossible to say no. I need to buy pans. I'd like my daughter to perhaps learn the basics of alchemy and bake a nice cake, mix the frosting, and so on but she has time. In the meantime, I'm on a project to convert all my VHS tapes to digital from a DVD writer I managed to steal from Goodwill for $20. Will take a bit of time...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/04/24 02:33 AM
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For now, can't make them at all. We don't have the pans. I find some killer cake deals at Giant grocery story in the "Manager's Special" that are to die for.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/04/24 12:57 AM
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I think my wife glows with a feminine beauty when I see her (happily) slaving over a stove to make borscht or chicken cutlets with this look of determination on her face. She is (ashamed) she doesn't know how to bake cakes like her grandmother. She derives personal pleasure for seeing other people, particular me and my daughter, from eating her food. It's her way of expressing that she cares about us. It says a lot that most women's OLD profiles don't say something such as "I love to keep a spot…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/04/24 12:13 AM
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I'm chuckling because my former manager was a genuine alpha chad who met an attractive woman from a family that owns hundreds of millions in commercial real estate. His progeny through great-great-great grandkids are set for life. He thought he'd need an annulment from his first wife so he paid for one but apparently they got married in a non-Catholic church anyway. Soon after he married the rich girl, his first wife died making the annulment especially moot.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/04/24 12:20 PM
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It's even better than that. Google: "Some studies suggest that couples who share chores equally have a 50% higher divorce rate than those where the wife does the majority of the work. What is fascinating in the post RP era is that this notion that if men were just "nicer", more "liberated", and did more household chores and "supportive" then women would be happier with them. Instead, these women claim they don't "feel chemistry", crave "tingles", and "just don't know why" they aren't attracted t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/04/24 03:17 AM
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Us men have it easy, you know, all we need to do is just be tall and rich and "we" don't need to read self-improvement books at all. We have it so easy!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/04/24 01:49 AM
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That's largely the forum where I found her. These are "strong, independent women" which even on that forum they are told that usually means "insufferable bitch". Some of them even utilize their Plan B at age 40 and buy Chad sperm (or so they think! :-) and become single mothers because they realize that alpha-Chad (whose also a progressive voter) isn't on the horizon. I just posted one of them doing that a few days ago. It makes me wonder... what's the point of educating women if it makes them i…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/04/24 01:14 AM
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Word of advice, sir, if you desire to hear it from me: You are in a narrow window. You can pull young women age 25 on pretty well up to 35, but there's a catch: when you hit 35 your ability to pull in the 25 year olds will start to dwindle exponentially much like how women hit the wall. Our "wall", so to speak, is when our dating pool is full of single mothers, leftovers, psychos, MILFs, and divorcees. So here's what I'm saying: Don't ride your own version of the CC too long. Sure, spin some pla…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/04/24 01:37 AM
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Back in the 90's, I called them "Corporate Nuns": This was prior to dating apps, of course, but these women had "metoo'd" away all the men in the workplace from asking them out and their social life consisted of chatting with their friends at work, driving home, going grocery shopping, and visiting their close relatives. They may as well have been wearing veils. I deflowered a 33 year old corporate nun virgin. Before any of you get jealous, it was not all it's cracked up to be. She was nervous a…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/04/24 02:37 PM
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Well, not entirely. Plenty of men are emotionally whipped by women because of sexual and social deprivation. A man who hasn't gotten enough sex is like putty in the hands of a manipulative woman. The whole dinner date paradigm is designed to emotionally break men with emotional deprivation ("hard to get" and "shit tests") and the more he invests in time and money to try to get laid, the more anxious he becomes AND he's not allowed to express it so he has to submerge this into denial "I ENJOY hav…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/04/24 02:37 PM
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They don't think things through. They are "true romantics" who want to believe that their movie ending can happen to them. It's admirable in a sense, but that's also why Hollywood is referred to as The Boulevard of Broken Dreams. It doesn't occur to them that if this type of "romance" was the norm, why would handsome men ever get married if it guaranteed them that the "love of their life" got less attractive with each day that went by? Someone said that he explained it to women by asking them to…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/04/24 02:29 PM
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Apologies for mistyping "romantic love WITH come in the future". Before anyone else calls me out on it, it's my bad. I make "typos" in whole words sometimes typing "your" instead of "you're" or even "youth". Perhaps it was age or the late evening post. Maybe this woman will benefit from a more successful version of me making a bigger mistake. Allow me to describe my thought process as I read this masterpiece: It starts out with her saying she STARTED looking for marriage at age 30 and still hadn…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/04/24 02:15 PM
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Indeed. What I find interesting about these modern women is that they now rely extensively on dating apps. When I came of age in The Before Times (before normies used the Internet), most women relied upon getting asked out at work or through mutual friends and so on. To go on an app was the sign of being a loser. Some young women continue to think this way at least until their mid 20's and then break down and go for it. The dating apps are brutal in regards to certain figures. For men, it's 6 fe…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/04/24 03:55 AM
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This one's story is particularly interesting: Many of us have childhood and personal issues we need to work out but as normal men, we're left alone by women until we do and reach our mid-20's and then start to look for a normal relationship having been educated by harsh rejection as to what our standards should be. Listen to her lingo: "He planned the date..." meaning that she enjoyed being wined, dined, and entertained but now as her looks are fading, she doesn't just want FWB's or situationshi…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/04/24 05:01 PM
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You edited it so it's looks better. I would suggest taking out the term "suspicious" as well. A better term would be "extraordinary" or even "amazing". Sometimes they surprise or shock us. I assure you that this is genuine and I got it from the original source (not something that's been reposted from another sub). I have personally heard tall men, particularly insecure ones, mock short guys perhaps to feel better about themselves. I recall much of this from high school as well which is why I enj…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/04/24 01:46 AM
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I suppose I "educated" her in that I explained the concept in a manner she could understand but she refused to. You know the saying about not forcing horses to drink water. I simply told her that this rationalization she had for golddigging in that men were physically shallow was offset by women's extreme heightism cancelling all of men's shallow preferences. She did flicker her eyelids a few times as I recall (this was 25 years ago) and that's when she sputtered out that I was evidence to the c…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/03/24 02:57 PM
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There's a lot about this woman that is quite extraordinary: For starters, note that she was a "sugar mama" but eventually nagged him so much about getting a job that when he finally did, the marriage was over. He left JUST AS he was eligible for her and it must have stung that she wound up being used similar to how pretty women use sugar daddies. There has to be more to that story than is being told but still, it's amazing she does recognize that she didn't "deserve" a hot, well employed man but…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/03/24 02:50 PM
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This violates Rule 3. I would love to address your other remarks but as the OP, I assure you that there are several reasons that I don't want to share that this is a real post. Please repost or edit this comment and I shall address the other observations.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/03/24 02:31 PM
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You don't need to write the disclaimer because what you just said makes a clear case that the slavery economy of Sparta was its downfall (much like, er, certain other empires... :-) The rise of Western Civilization was the rise of a benevolent Patriarchy as working men were provided with opportunities to create jobs, innovate, and work to support women who were expected to be submissive to them. Feminists laughably like to associate women's liberation with the west while not considering that the…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/03/24 03:25 PM
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She probably thinks this is being generous "I didn't wait at the finish line for him! This is like the sacrifices of oppressed women of old marrying a man while he's still in medical school. Take THAT Mother Teresa!" But yeah, the modern "independent" women think they're doing men a favor by just expecting men to be succe$$full AND handsome because that's what REAL men should be like, but not without him actually having standards. Oh, and these men should somehow magically appear out of inter-di…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/03/24 03:17 PM
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One way to blow their minds in that they think their job/home should impress high value men is to say: "Well, sure, but what man who earns 2X as her or has a bigger home wants to marry DOWN?" In other words, if men were to be impressed by women for the same things, wouldn't these men then also view such women as, well, just not "a good fit?" For all these liberated women who revert to traditionalism when it suits them, they should read up and know that hypergamy was invented by MEN. It was hands…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/03/24 03:17 AM
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But she’s not “fine”. She said she’s “angry” that people point out the consequences of her choices. She can simply admit that she’s too unattractive for the men she wants and nobody would question that.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/03/24 07:21 PM
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Actually, it really is. Men don't want to commit to "independent successful" women because they're insufferable and demanding. If a woman is rich AND nice, most men are ok with that. My Alpha Chad boss married a pretty woman whose family owns $200 million of commercial property in Alexandria, Virginia. On the other hand, a woman who says she'll only date men who are at "least" as tall as them is driven by their insecurity at being seen with a "shorter" man even if a slight height difference is i…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/03/24 02:08 PM
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Their rationalization for what they're attracted to appears to be based upon what they "deserve" due to a combination of two mindsets: "traditional princesses" wait for the men "they want" to ask them out and therefore they should be able to pick the one she "finds attractive". Since they don't experience rejection and men by definition exist to provide her with happiness, I liken it to someone who goes fishing thinking they're entitled to a prize fish jumping into their bucket. This thinking is…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/03/24 04:05 PM
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Here's the thing: This notion that a woman "just can't be attracted to someone" is BS. Plenty of men may ONLY want the hot cheerleader but when she rejects him he finds a way to get the hots for the dorky girl in glasses. The reason why us men "settle" is we understand we're not ENTITLED to someone getting our rocks off. There's the old joke that goes: "You don't have a room? If I was Prince Harry would you have a hotel room? Well, Prince Harry couldn't make it so I'll take his room." If a guy w…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/03/24 02:55 AM
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Well, consider that if she was 38 and said she was childless and wanted kids, that would beg the question that with a woman inked up like that, wouldn't have one of the hundreds of men have knocked her up by then if she was fertile? It's the fundamental challenge for all over upper 30's y/o women (even uninked ones) that any man who can afford them who wants kids, can afford someone younger. Any man that wants to bother with her without having kids of his own will have spent the first 4 decades …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/03/24 05:42 PM
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It makes sense in that in the old days of extended families in large homes, grandparents and brothers would live under one large roof and share in expenses and child-rearing. This notion of the single family home in suburbia with parents going to nursing homes is quite expensive and recent in history. So two single mothers could help cut expenses. They could look after each others' kids such as on date night trying to hook some sucker and it's cheaper to share a large home than each of them rent…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/03/24 10:28 PM
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These women complain they simply CANNOT kiss a man whose below her "standards". It's IMPOSSIBLE! But is it... really? Leo DiCaprio continues to get plenty of young tail. There's a study that says that modern women are becoming less flexible on looks (they need a short man to earn $200,000/year to offset one whose average height) but nonetheless, it's doable. It's probably driven by social conditioning where women are shamed for being sensible in their choices. If a girl in a trailer park married…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/03/24 06:25 PM
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One of the problems in this modern era is that for many men to actually get to 3rd base with most (single) women in dating, he may need to adapt, even if only superficially, to a form of toxic masculinity that harms relationships (and himself for that matter) in the long run. By definition, as good women get married off when they're young, the leftovers tend to be toxic or have unreasonable standards. Back in the 90's, I had considered perhaps trying to "train" the lesser toxic of the corporate …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/03/24 02:10 PM
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The way you describe it, it is her fault. That doesn't make her a bad person, but you claimed you were honest with her and it took her 9 years to take you seriously. If genders were reversed most here would hold him accountable. I have a dear friend who was widowed at age 45. She has a pleasant disposition and is tall, did OLD after mourning, and was married in about 2 years to a man slightly taller than she is. The guy has a ponytail and is a bit goofy but she likes him. Of course there's "outl…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/03/24 11:51 AM
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I've noticed various language codewords/thinking from the trad-thots in general such as: "If a man expects something from a woman and he doesn't get it and leaves, that's transactional but if he doesn't do what I want, then I just don't see him anymore." They are both the same thing but their rationalization is: "He has to prove he's a man to me, then I'll submit to him so it's not transactional!" but yet, that's the very definition of transactional: I pay for something and the person hands it t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/03/24 01:41 AM
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That was the similar Lifetime Movie vibe with "Sleeping with the Enemy". Here's a video of a woman with a double standard regarding two men: https://fb.watch/qJxQTly4IW/
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/03/24 03:17 PM
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In her defense, perhaps what's meant by that is my own anti-chivalry but yet manners I practice: If I see someone behind me but they're far away, I'll let the door close because by the time they get there, they'll just open it on their own. I don't wait there like a doorman for her to come up and walk through it. But if she, or he, is absolutely right behind me, if I let it close it would go into their face and that's super rude so I hold it open so either they go through it or they hold it open…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/03/24 04:17 AM
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What "independent woman" means is that she can pay her own bills, but a real man should pay them because he "wants to" and she shouldn't have to be grateful. Analogy to try to illustrate the point is my sister's ex-husband was a neat freak who kept a place cleaner than any woman on earth but he expected his wife to do the cleaning, to his standards, and without gratitude (since this is what she is supposed to do.) As a Naval officer, his favorite thing to do when he was on base was to walk aroun…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/03/24 12:43 AM
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What's strange about Eff Dee Ess is that the strategy in theory should be productive since there's no shortage of BP, sex starved men who would agree to "make an effort" to be a good beta male but yet most of them appear to fail (otherwise, why would they be there? This is falling-off-a-log type stuff.) They probably are so unattractive that even the BP men don't want them.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/03/24 11:47 PM
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What you described sounds a lot like the plot of Election.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/03/24 11:43 PM
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I feel hurt. I thought I was doing you all a favor by showing you this mind blowing, sexy, stunning, gorgeous, beautiful goddess feminine in every form; mind, body, and soul who even gives the men who are equal to her (or better), back rubs and fetches their beer! I happen to exceed all of her qualifications, but I want a woman whose equal to me or better, so I guess it won't work out.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/03/24 08:30 PM
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The problem with even base hypergamy is that combining all these, while being "ambitious" prices her out of the market. Not only that, but she can't stand men being "insecure" meaning he'll have to have a significant buffer. If a man has such a buffer where he can have hundreds of women for free, why would he commit to one whose working non-stop to "challenge" his "fragile masculinity?" This one is a true gem who combines all the elements of chivalrous entitlement, feminist hostility, and delusi…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/03/24 08:22 PM
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No. She engaged in projection in accusing men of doing what she was doing. Fantastic story though. It illustrates a problem with projection is that it works great to alleviate issues with a personal conscience but when they really need to understand what they're doing, their rationalizations trap them. She cannot see her way out of the hole she dug herself in. Psychopaths are often miserable people because they fail to understand the personal messes they create for themselves in that they see th…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/03/24 01:43 AM
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I was thinking that if I corrected her, that would only prove her point I was lacking "guile". :-) It took me 35 long years to learn how to be "wally" from Dilbert, but I've finally succeeded. Maybe that's why Wally is portrayed as this old, bald short guy. :-)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/03/24 01:31 AM
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I went through a similar phase when I was 30 about 5 years before I met my wife. I was having troubles finding a woman in my area in my age range or below who either were willing to talk to me or didn't smoke or have face piercings and tats. A woman 20 years my senior with grown kids was very feminine and interesting. She shared similar classic tastes) knew how to cook, and so on. Her daughters thought it was strange she was dating someone who was only about 5 years older than they were. Within …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/03/24 03:23 PM
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You just described one of my colleagues and I did the same: I don't share my political or ideological beliefs with anyone at work so we got along fine although she'd be horrified if she knew what I thought. About a year ago she told me: "You possess no guile" which I considered the ultimate backhanded compliment. She believes I am naive and an open book.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/03/24 03:09 PM
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I'm reminded of George Carlin's classic routine on how when you drive and everyone who drives faster than you is a "maniac!" and everyone whose slower is an "idiot" and it's impossible to get anywhere without there being so many maniacs and idiots on the road. It's actually more difficult for men to adjust our sex drive to accommodate women than vice-versa. We are simply incapable of performing unless we are aroused while women can simply lie there. It doesn't occur to them that the primary reas…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/03/24 03:04 PM
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Both of us have a "bad" side but rather than scream at my daughter, I simply enforce basic rules. For example: A simply 10 minute timeout in her room which is filled with toys. This is not the worst punishment in the world but for my daughter, it was like torture. My wife, on the other hand, just screams and yells at her and gripes "why isn't this working?" Women live in a universe where they think screaming and complaining is the same as action.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/03/24 02:56 AM
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As we see how women are solipsistic when it comes to personal relationships, it explains a lot to me why single mothers are generally bad parents. My wife tends to have problems with communicating with my 7 year old daughter effectively. She either screams the child is "bad" or cuddles her for being "good". This can leave the child frustrated because she'll "feel bad" but without a path to understanding how to perform the action or why. I'm more process/outcome based: I explain to her why what s…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/03/24 12:03 AM
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Part 3 of a series. Part 1 is the post that this Carol is responding to here: https://www.reddit.com/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen/comments/1b4wpqb/im\_a\_single\_mom\_who\_is\_ready\_to\_give\_up\_on\_men/ Part 2 is a another comment to the post here: https://www.reddit.com/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen/comments/1b4wruw/this\_literally\_made\_me\_cry/
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/03/24 07:53 PM
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Part 2 of a series. Originating post that this Carol is responding to here: https://www.reddit.com/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen/comments/1b4wpqb/im\_a\_single\_mom\_who\_is\_ready\_to\_give\_up\_on\_men/ Another response to the main post here: https://www.reddit.com/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen/comments/1b4wwh0/i\_cant\_find\_many\_men\_that\_are\_looking\_for\_more/
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/03/24 07:51 PM
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This is a Part 1 of 3. This is a main post by a Carol with two commenter responses. Response 1 here: https://www.reddit.com/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen/comments/1b4wruw/this_literally_made_me_cry/ Response 2 here: https://www.reddit.com/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen/comments/1b4wwh0/i\_cant\_find\_many\_men\_that\_are\_looking\_for\_more/
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/03/24 07:49 PM
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That analogy brings back memories. With stacked ranking companies, the lesson is that all that matters is politics and appearance. I wish someone had told me this 30 years ago. One time I even helped another team avoid a colossal failure that would have resulted in harm to the firm and their reputations and my mentor pulled me aside and said: "NEVER do that. They would get dinged and you would get a promotion. It's all about the curve and if everyone else gets a D, you get an A". So in that rega…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/02/24 07:43 PM
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I read about that, and I think it was for a brief period about 8000 years ago which was quite a short window in evolutionary terms. It's particularly interesting since this likely applied to one population set because various population groups were already isolated in Africa, Asia, Europe, and the 2 Americas. Something else to consider is how survivor bias can skew the numbers. Imagine this scenario: Men live to older age at a greater ratio than women during this time period, let's play with thi…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/02/24 12:02 AM
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Minor quibble: the term "alpha" refers to the top of a particular field and most men in hunter societies "hunted" so most nomad men were "alpha hunters". I read that allegedly these nomad societies didn't have the monogamy we imagine today or even exclusive harems but rather mating as family units with brothers sharing wives so while a hunter was off bagging game, the beta brother (or heck, father or grandpa) might be getting some action.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/02/24 06:15 PM
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Note that 'find" a spouse means different things to modern men and women. To women such as this, it means they'll agree to marry if the right man approaches her meeting all of her increased and demanding standards and passes all of her tests. Believe it or not, probably for their 20's such a woman wouldn't marry such a man and decide that she still wants to "play the field" and see if she can "do better". I'm reminded of a story about supposedly when JP Morgan offered Andrew Carnage 1 billion (a…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/02/24 06:05 PM
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Back about 30 years ago, I was considering one of the corporate nuns: These were women with low body counts who were serving their corporate masters waiting in their tower for the prince to come. If I had played my cards right, I suppose I could have wifed one up but it took more game than was usual at the time. You had to pass their shit tests (mild by modern standards), pay for a few dates, and be able to kino your way past their awkwardness since they had issues with being touched. After that…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/02/24 03:39 AM
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What I find rather poetic about this one, particularly from the comments that followed, is how she did find a solution to her conundrum: The men are simply not worth it so she's better off. After all, the reason why she's in this mess is that she not only didn't learn how to hide her flags, but leaves them out for all to see similar to a teenager leaving her dirty clothes on the floor as a badge of honor. A "lady" should not have to make an effort for a REAL man even if to use feminine wiles. A …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/02/24 02:59 AM
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Mcds coffee is decent. If you use the app and then log into the kiosk with it you get 2 for 1 discounts on breakfast sandwiches, rewards and goodies that make things very affordable. Essentially mcds taxes people who use human ordering or default prices.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/02/24 09:55 PM
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I’m sorry but my curiosity is getting the better of me. What happened with these women? Are they married with kids?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/02/24 06:21 PM
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Sometimes I hear my wife arguing with a 7 year old. Yes, a 7 year old is holding her own against my wife. I'm so proud of her! (She gets that from me, obviously.) I then sometimes have to go up and mediate between them. So you're a senior citizen. McD's has made it tough to take advantage of the Senior coffee discount. I get 10% off at Ross and 30% off at our local goodwill. Fantastic. So my wife is excited when I take her for senior day at goodwill. Just scored a VHS-DVD recorder for $28.00 (on…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/02/24 01:59 AM
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When my original mower broke down and I got a self-propelled I admit it was great. I still get exercise but it makes it a lot easier to get the job done. I'm surprised you didn't get a rider mower like Hank Hill but you probably want the exercise. Also, don't tell anyone, but I mow about every 3 weeks and I think it's better for the lawn anyway. I had a single argument with my wife about housework in that she decides she wants to do it "the hard way" and then tried to rope me in on her deliberat…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/02/24 08:52 PM
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When I heard this argument I responded that women don't like paying top market dollar for housework or childcare either. They'll pay an illegal immigrant to look after their kids. Think about that: This is someone whose in an extralegal status and totally uninsured and they're trusting their kids to this person.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/02/24 08:45 PM
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30 years ago I went to a dating agency and I wish when she asked for a quality I wanted in a mate, I said "mature". I think it would confuse her and most modern women since they think women don't have to do anything to "mature". They can be perpetual teenagers in old women's bodies and be "mature" simply via age hence why calling a woman "mature" would trigger them. If we asked them what a "real" woman meant, they'd probably be equally confused to answer. All most single career women bring in te…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/02/24 05:17 PM
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I have an answer for that. I know one going back to the 1980's. In their mind, these are all things men, ahem, "GENTLEMEN" or "REAL" men, do for "ladies". If a woman does a MAN'S job for herself, she deserves an award. But note that just because she does these for herself FOR NOW doesn't get "gentlemen" off the hook for paying for dates, holding doors, and so forth because REAL men enjoy doing that on his own. He shouldn't get a thank you and, as an added bonus, her independence means she's got …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/02/24 03:59 PM
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I think this is the logic: Young women have men chase after them, treat them like princesses, etc. and she believes she's "entitled" to be a "lady". She's "special". Men tell her so! This means it should last FOREVER! She's SPECIAL. It's WRONG for men to say her specialness goes away with age. She's a PRINCESS. A LADY! Besides, she finds most men unattractive anyway. Brad Pitt? He's maybe, say, a 7. So these men should be more reasonable and find someone special such as her hot. They're STUPID!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/02/24 03:25 AM
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Their logic is that he's being "insecure" and want a ditzy young woman whose easy to dominate. Not a "strong" woman such as herself whose going to "challenge" him with all of her gripes, baggage, and demands for him to show what a REAL man he is. At the bottom, she says "I'm not angry about it, just resigned" but yet she gripes repeatedly about how "unfair" it is and how men need to learn, she claims, it won't work for them. She's lying through her teeth: she's not "resigned" nor not-angry. Do h…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/02/24 10:30 PM
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This is a "part 2" or the full text of "I just don't think it's fair". https://www.reddit.com/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen/comments/1ae4jwc/i\_just\_dont\_think\_its\_fair/
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/02/24 02:53 PM
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Many do but don't fit the format of WAAGTM. They are often posted on BetterBachelor. Some even say they want a "simp". There are actual dating profiles with them saying this openly. In the old days, 30 years ago, they used "code" such as "Looking for a generous man whose old fashioned and knows how to treat a lady."
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/01/24 03:49 PM
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You have a good eye for detail. I didn't catch that. Yeah, she plopped out a kid to some guy 2 years (and some months) after the divorce. It's possibly some guy she may have monkey-branched while with the ex-husband.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/01/24 04:44 AM
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About 20 years ago in Poland, this guy ran an electronics shop and had a USB hard drive on sale for about 2X what it was worth. It had sat in the shop for about 2 years and he didn't want to take a loss on it so he was listing it for the wholesale price. He refused to accept a "market rate". It should be what he wants to pay for it. Besides, wouldn't the high price imply it's a quality drive and someone would want to pay more? Ok, he didn't think that, but that marketing ploy does work at times …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/01/24 04:42 AM
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Back when dinosaurs ruled the earth and every family bathroom had a can of hairspray, in the 1980's my little sister told me: "If you don't pay for dates, no pretty woman will want you." I came to the realization 10 years later she was absolutely correct. I had to pay to play. I had hoped that we could start a relationship "without games" and being sincere, respectful, and thinking long term and other BP notions, but when I moved on I paid for (minimum dates) with a smile on my face, but I expec…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/01/24 03:41 AM
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She’s old Soviet style. Y2K. Fun stories back then. Internet cafes.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/01/24 02:46 AM
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You made me LOL with that question. She said I'm reliable, I'm a "cat person" and she (thought) I'd make a good father. I think I'm a pretty good father but she gripes I'm not perfect. She also said that she liked that no other woman would want me so she wouldn't worry about me cheating, but at my HS reunion she saw my old HS colleagues flirting with me and got jealous. But in the end... it was the Alaskan King Crab that did it. I flew from Los Angeles, to Chicago, to Krakow and finally to Odess…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/01/24 02:10 AM
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What's funny is that although many people tell me my wife is lovely, her looks weren't the reasons I married her. I picked her because she had good values and also recognized my value. I have a "thing" for brunettes but my wife is blonde. I think she's lovely, but that's not my "tingles". I "settled". Most men "settle". This notion of not having to "settle" signals entitlement. Entitlement is due to either privilege (as in "white privilege" for example) or exceptional hard work or talent. If a w…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/01/24 01:42 AM
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One guy got supposedly nailed for a profile photo with the Twin Towers in the background.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/01/24 09:03 PM
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It doesn't say in the post, but she indicates elsewhere she's over 30.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/01/24 04:01 PM
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When my wife went to ESL classes run by the county, her teacher was a highly (overeducated) English teacher with a Master's degree. Nice guy overall, my wife liked him (and the feeling was mutual), and although the guy made less than an associate manager at Denny's, he was married to a lawyer who probably wanted to be able to introduce a "teacher with a master's degree" to her friends at parties. It's worked out for them from what I can tell, at least 20 years of marriage. He's a classic 1990's …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/01/24 03:59 PM
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Women have an interesting mindset due to chivalry/feminist entitlement thinking which reminds me of this wonderful scene in "Dirty Rotten Scoundrels", a fun comedy: “Freddy, as a younger man, I was a sculptor, a painter, and a musician. There was just one problem: I wasn't very good. As a matter of fact, I was dreadful. I finally came to the frustrating conclusion that I had taste and style, but not talent. I knew my limitations. We all have our limitations, Freddy. Fortunately, I discovered tha…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/01/24 11:46 PM
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You're leaving us hanging. How did you let her off? Did you just let things fizzle out? I'd have been tempted to say "I'm too stupid to carry on a conversation too!" and then prove it. Act stupid as hell. What she says is incredibly stupid. I've carried on conversations with incredibly stupid, or at least ignorant, people and sometimes even pleasantly. They can sometimes say interesting things without realizing it but in general, stupid people will want to talk about stupid things but they do ca…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/01/24 07:28 PM
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She reminds me of Sheldon and Amy from The Big Bang Theory: They're autistic idiots that would have died alone if it wasn't for their "normie" friends setting them up.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/01/24 09:26 PM
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Cool idea in that women's maturity largely stops at the age of 14 or so then kicks on again in middle age. That being said, quibble with the claim that feminism "at one time" had a good idea and went stale. Women's voting rights appear innocuous but even at the time, the feminists didn't want equal responsibilities such as sharing those comfy lifeboat seats on the Titanic. (Look it up). The suffragists came up with all the usual excuses and entitlements to say that men were disposable and they w…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/01/24 09:25 PM
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In all fairness to her, she's not griping that she can't land the hot guy with her assets, but rather that she's not attracted to any of the men she's getting. It doesn't occur to her to even think she should change a single thing to land the kind of man she wants since all she has to do is 'select'. Her job is to pick "worthy suitors" and as a "lady", she shouldn't have to do anything but sit there and judge. If she were to think about self-improvement and effort to land the kind of man she wan…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/01/24 08:20 PM
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When you say "love and protect", does that mean she's willing to "love and submit"? A woman relative of mine was into cops because they're so commanding and then she complained "They were too domineering". The same goes with airline captains: they're used to ordering people around. This woman said she wants a 'partner'. A 'protector' is another word for daddy. Daddy can't be a "friend" or "partner". I have a 7 year old. I can't think of myself as her friend, I'm her father and that's a different…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/01/24 08:02 PM
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Posting under weekend content: u/Typo-MAGAshiv "She is just having an epiphany phase this late in life and is still unwilling to "settle". The idea of "deserving the best", without the proper context (if you put in the work) is indeed a nefarious one. If you can post a comment along with the post and cover it along these lines, you are welcome to post it this weekend."
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/01/24 04:16 PM
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Of course it's intentional. "Ladies" wait for handsome men to prove their worth to her by saying what she wants to hear and the ones who aren't handsome still provide her with validation. Rarely will men, including the alphas, ever tell her the truth because such women react badly to it either by ignoring what they have to say, or become vengeful. They just let the "relationship" fizzle out and she makes up whatever story suits her. I asked a young woman friend of mine point blank if she wanted …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/01/24 03:45 AM
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In her last comment, she appears to at least verbally acknowledge she's shallow and that she's suffering the consequences of that. For men who have champagne tastes, we understand that there's a cost. You can only get it up for supermodels? Then you risk rejection and ask them out and pay for dates. Young men with raging hard-ons come to grips with this and accept we have to get up and out there and take the hits if we want hot chicks. Her problem isn't only that she's hungry like a wolf for the…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/01/24 06:40 PM
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I'm reminded of a phrase from one of my high school teachers 40 years ago: "Do you mean you "can't" or you "won't?"" That's what makes this whole "I can't do this...." routine from her so laughable. It's like someone saying they "can't" go to the gym because they're too busy or have something better to do. She's making excuses hoping that she can cheat her way out of it. For example: She says (I underlined) she has a "low self esteem" but yet she claims she can't sleep with mere above average me…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/01/24 07:28 PM
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It's ironic that when women start to define masculinity (namely, to shame men via it such as "You're not a real man unless you do X for me!"), it results in a definition of masculinity that reminds me of superhero tropes. They're fun to watch and read, but superheroes lead pretty pathetic lives in that they do the work of the police, anonymously and without reward, and usually live modest lifestyles to avoid exposure. I chuckled at the end of Superman III where Clark Kent crushes a lump of coal …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/01/24 07:20 PM
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The (long) but good read of Henryk Sienkiewicz's Nobel Prize winning novel "With Fire and Sword" is both a classic romanticization of feudal order with subtle criticisms of it. "Gentle"men and "Ladies" were distinguished by their ability to avoid crass behavior due to their entitlement. "Noble" behavior we've come to associate with "good breeding" and "manners" were rationalizations of entitlement on the backs of socio-economically marginalized European peasants. The "ill bred" peasants were see…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/12/23 03:05 PM
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There was a similar scenario with the inspin Carols recently posted at age 31 and 33 who were coming out of 2 and 3 year relationships as well. I went through a similar thing with some of them back then: They simply didn't make enough effort to make the relationship work or they had a bad attitude so we went our separate ways and they didn't learn a thing from it. As perpetual 16 year olds, they refuse to learn anything. "This relationship failed. Should I perhaps have done something differently…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/12/23 09:29 PM
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Women bloggers sometimes try to claim that men are more shallow than women because a super wealthy but dad-bod man can land a hot woman but not vice versa. There is "some" truth to this in that a man can go up 2 points on the 1-10 scale by earning $250K/year but for frumpy women, they need to have $2.5 million in the bank. "See? Men are more shallow and don't even care about money!" Well, the reason for that is obvious to us men: We know that a $300K/year earner woman is going to have even highe…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/12/23 02:57 PM
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There's the theory that this is why Hollywood Celebs such as Tom Cruise are such drama queens: Much of our maturity is externally driven. We have to "grow up" and learn to empathize and cooperate with others as a function of survival or to achieve our goals. Men, in particular, may require an extended period of time to become a "real man" to accumulate all the requirements to be a good husband and father. This is especially challenging today as the candle has been burned at both ends: feminism, …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/12/23 08:51 PM
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When a trad-fem relationship advisor implied I had a wife that was prettier than I deserved I pointed out I had traveled literally halfway around the world for her. I also had (and continue to have) patience and work things out with my spouse. I look at my daughter and EVERY DAY is father's day for me. This woman would rather risk her frozen eggs possibly going bad and dying alone and childless because she wants to wear heels. That's how little value she places on a loving relationship and child…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/12/23 05:19 PM
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I'm mentoring my daughter's development on social relationships. Politics is essential to success for the most part whether one is in management or even has technical acumen and wants to be promoted. It can't be denied but nonetheless, one shouldn't develop an identity defined by a particular group acceptance in that we move on throughout our lives to different groups. I enjoy going to my HS Reunions but I've moved on from them, as most have. But for young women, who mature early and get dopamin…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/12/23 08:26 PM
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“It's morally wrong to allow a sucker to keep his money." -- W. C. Fields Please read the story. The plaintiff dropped her case just before the judge was going to render a verdict implying she realized that she was going to lose. The matchmaker says that she thought the plaintiff was going to be more flexible. All that said, indeed, if biological clock ticking women were told up front by matchmakers the harsh realities, they'd probably go out of business because such women would reject the advic…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/12/23 02:31 PM
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I scrolled down and it was like staring into purgatory: She had paid to get 18 eggs frozen when she turned 31. Not the worst age, but not great either. She then gripes about how she's living the urban NYC Sex and the City dream but most of her money goes to rent and expenses, barely 6 months in savings at the age of 31. How'z this gal gonna unfreeze her eggs and be a single mom by choice in NYC with 6 months of savings? She writes that she considered "short men" but they "had a chip on their sho…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/12/23 04:11 AM
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Ho ho ho.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/12/23 11:02 PM
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My initial theory was that she was up against a numerical wall: Just as women filter for men above 6 feet, she hit the magic three oh. But... she claims she got an astonishing 2000 likes which, for men, are not "rookie numbers." Nonetheless, there is something going on in that in 2 years she is now striking out from a large pool of men available. Let the battle of wits begin!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/12/23 09:10 PM
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Ahem. I appreciate your point that she isn't the worst we've ever seen here, but biology cannot be denied. A 38 year old man is differently situated than a woman when it comes to looking to settle down and have kids. Note that this woman is still not ready to have kids in the same manner as a man. When I was 35 and got married, I was capable of the most important and difficult role an adult being can have: to protect and provide for a spouse and child as needed. To be "ready" took painful effort…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/12/23 04:46 PM
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I have adopted cats before and I love them. I can see how women become cat ladies, they are wonderful creatures. But why would someone adopt the most obnoxious, ungrateful creature in a pound, cat or dog, when there are hundreds of decent, loving animals in need of rescue? My aunt once adopted a puppy from my beloved Collie that gave birth to a litter and it turned out the collie just was awful house dog material. She quietly took it to the kill-pound where it was put down. They felt bad but... …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/12/23 04:50 AM
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I had something like this happen 35 years ago, back when my cat brought pterodactyl young to my home as trophies... I asked out a girl in our friend group who was a rural plump farmer's girl. You know, a little chunky but cute. I thought maybe she'd be down-to-earth. Nope, she got all entitled on me and I lost interest. A chubby woman who thinks she's a 10/10 just didn't turn me on. 10 years later, I'd date and marry a girl 10 years YOUNGER than her.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/12/23 04:39 AM
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I think it's rather refreshing that she could reflect upon the feedback and accept responsibility for her decisions and that she enjoyed making them. She's not RP, but she's at least helping make progress.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/12/23 02:57 AM
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That would actually be a sweet deal for her. It would mean that if she got knocked up, then the guy would be happy to have kids of his own with her and she'd have her own kids but if she didn't, then no-harm-no-foul, the guy would be ok because she'd be helping him raise his kids. It's amazing how many men today have primary custody of their kids and how angry this has made some of the trad-fems online, I kid you not, that 'the family court system is biased against women! It takes away children …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/12/23 02:52 AM
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What you should have done when that happened at work is asked her (in front of a witness, and secretly record if possible) why a woman's shortness isn't an issue. She probably would have then said that's "feminine" and such. Then you have her where she is mocking you for something due to a protected category. I'd have then filed a complaint with HR, said that she had undermined my ability to do my job for being a male whose short. If she wasn't fired, I'd file a complaint with the EEOC. That wou…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/12/23 08:04 PM
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I'm reminded of a joke that goes where married man and wife visit the doctor to get him a checkup and the doctor tells the wife "I didn't want to tell your husband this, but he can live only if he makes a positive change in his life. Don't overwork like he's been doing, and you need to cook and clean for him and give him lots of sex. If you can do that, he'll live a long and happy life." The husband asks his wife what the doctor told her and she says: "The doctor says you're going to die." There…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/12/23 07:37 PM
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What was most revealing and damning about her statement that she "destroys" beta males and attacked the matchmaker for giving her critical advice is that she's overall a hostile, confrontational, selfish person. She's like one of the shelter dogs that's vicious and bites children, poops on the floor, and needs a "special owner" to look after it while the shelter is full of wonderful puppies that don't have those issues. She's feral.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/12/23 07:23 PM
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I called out an African-American woman once who often played the race card who mocked short guys and I pointed out how she was shallow and she said "Short guys tend to be angry rapists since they are such social losers" and I replied that she was making a similar argument to race profiling where skin color is replaced by height and she lost it. She flipped out. In addition, it's worth asking that if they want tall men for protection, then why do they shit test them? Abusive men will easily pass …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/12/23 01:25 AM
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I did. I didn't want to credit you without your permission. I'm an honest thief. :-) Thanks so much for the tip, it went over well. It's getting to the point where we don't have to work hard to find great content, it's like trying to find ice in Alaska. I watched her video and I think she's rather nuanced in a way that she doesn't want to "always be the leader" and I can appreciate that but her saying she "chews betas" reveals her to be a major boss bitch. It's easy for women to submit to men: J…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/12/23 05:08 PM
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I asked women friends if they could get the perfect guy, not just for them but in general, one that has a bevy of women throwing themselves at him, if she just asked him out and paid for the date. Not just her share, but both of them, they would say no. Men who aren't brainwashed to be gentlemen but like me pay for dates because we simply have to, accept that it's an unpleasant duty like being a cat owner means picking up puke (and nearly always on the carpet. They run from a bare floor to the c…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/12/23 04:58 PM
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I liken this to adult videos where a normal looking guy opens the door and a hot pizza delivery girl says the pizza costs $20 and he says he doesn't have money for a tip so she asks for sex from him in exchange for it. That's a cool fantasy and such and men realize so. It's amusing to hear women gripe about how some "loser" thinks he can hit on her but that's the vast minority of men. Regarding tall men less likely to assault women because they can get it: Ron Jeremy gets tail thrown at him all …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/12/23 04:38 PM
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I disagree with his theory of evolutionary biology in that he thinks it's rational. It's not. I don't think these women want providers and protectors. Ready? They want bad boy ravishers. Think about it: A provider-protector who stays with a woman, even an alpha one, only has perhaps a half dozen progeny. But a bad boy who roamed the plains of old and ravished hundreds of women, think Genghis Khan, has millions of descendants. So women get the hots for bad boys for a "super spreader". If she has …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/12/23 07:33 PM
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My apologies. I use the term as an illustration of their snobbishness. They look down on these men, but yet they remain threatened by all men. It's like how trans-women are dominating sports after decades of feminists griping "male athletes are unfairly paid more than us!" Really? Fine. Level the playing field then.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/12/23 06:55 PM
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This was part of the problem, I think, I had with girls in a dating agency I joined about 25 years ago. It was full of corporate nuns who wanted tall guys with an education who would wife them up right away. Hypergamy back then wasn't as crazy as it is now. There was a study back in the 1980's, and things were certainly different then, where a man or woman would approach someone on the street and ask them for a date OR sex. Out of curiosity, they wanted to see how the opposite sex reacted to suc…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/12/23 06:53 PM
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It's funny that this was originally a scientific term applied to a specific family unit of wolves and the original author of that term decried it and the blue pilled folks try to laugh it off. Now it's come full circle and the Boss Babes are trying to appropriate the label for themselves. When PUA came out, men were advised to live in "abundance mentality" and "alpha frame" BUT in combination with actual effort and social skills. A guy couldn't just declare himself "alpha" and then wait for hot …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/12/23 03:23 AM
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I'm laughing that she made a warzone with the matchmaker who gave her advice that was worth more than the 10 years of therapy she went through (probably cost more than $350! :-) There appears to be a new terminology in the trad-femosphere: "leader". They use this to shame men to organize (and pay) of course for dates and to take responsibility for everything, but with no thanks from them because as "leader", he's supposed to know how to make her happy without her saying so. That's particularly w…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/12/23 03:01 AM
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I have "stolen" this idea from you and posted it. If you like, you can post it yourself and I'll cancel. If you want credit, please comment and take it.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/12/23 06:36 PM
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An acquaintance of mine wrote a dating book in 1999 thinking she actually invented dual mating. "Women need different men at different points in their lives" she said and called for, on her side of course, casually trading in men for new models like IPhones. Get a high school sweetheart, then get a rich guy to fund your life as a single mother with alimony/CS, then get a hot bad boy, then settle for a beta bucks bailout. It was like reading a book written by sharks: "Which surfers should you eat…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/12/23 05:51 PM
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Actually, that may further drive their delusions. Many of these men are with women even more frumpy than she is. After all, these women probably squeezed out a few kids already and have mom bods. Like Bezos and his old lady or Pierce Brosnan, they met them in college and got married and she was with him when building his life so he's ok with her being "normal". Keep in mind that at least 1/2 of men marry in their 20's and stay married to "normal" women so these women think "Well, if I want a ric…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/12/23 03:36 AM
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I just read the article and it was astonishing. For her to get 164 dates was the ultimate in female privilege. She managed to land her husband after the last date, near her 30th birthday. Women in their 40's will have a harder time getting prime stock like this.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/12/23 08:55 PM
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I cared. I enjoy traveling myself but it may not be the kind that bourgeois women are accustomed to such as on cruises or "all inclusive" resorts. It's not that the above things are bad, but rather so many women use them to become insufferable. They use their "independence" and success to become more demanding and hypergamous. They don't date you as a person, but rather as a fashion accessory to their "great friends" who will judge them if they don't extract enough resources or status from you. …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/12/23 03:32 PM
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I dated a MILF 20 years older than me when I was 30. She was great in bed, feminine and interesting and in many ways superior to her frumpy, uncouth daughters. The challenge is ho-flation: Many young women are of lower quality and higher cost than their mothers and grandmothers. She was a pain in the derrière though and I broke it off. About 3 years later I referred a friend of mine to her business (she's quite competent and intelligent in her field) and asked him for dirt and he said "she looks…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/12/23 03:02 AM
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I was recently thinking about that very topic and how some people are driven by prizes such as The Nobel Prize or a superbowl ring and spend their whole lives in that pursuit. The vast majority of them will NOT win that prize so what then? What did they do with their lives then? Sometimes, it's ok to pursue a Nobel prize in that you may learn a lot along the way and do great things. The Nobel prize is recognition of doing greatness, but great people who don't win Nobel prizes certainly don't reg…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/12/23 06:52 PM
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Actually, the women are correct that men are "intimidated" by such women in that these women do attack men's masculinity if she's more successful. In the very least, she'll be "independent" and ambivalent towards men and that's the problem. The success itself isn't necessarily the problem. Here's an analogy to explain it: Ask a woman if a man "intimidates" her by keeping his home clean and spotless and knows how to cook and few will say no. My sister married a military officer who was just like …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/12/23 06:38 PM
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Remember: how good people treat you = value you bring to the table. While much of what you stated is true and useful, I think this is misleading or at least incomplete. We got to the point of simping because so many men thought merely bringing value to the table would result in being treated good. Perhaps the most difficult thing, for men or women, is to properly assess our value both in absolute and market terms. We all deserve to be treated with basic human dignity, for example but men have al…
/r/TheRedPill05/12/23 03:43 PM
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This is precisely why most of Eff Dee Ess strategy is their plan to wind up alone and "level up" or their term for make their lives better on their own since they won't be able to mooch from a man.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/12/23 12:26 AM
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During the 80's and even overseas, it was usually minimum hypergamy: "a little taller" than her or "a little" more money, etc. There's even a joke now about some women wanting "double alpha" 12-12-12: 12 feet tall, 12 digit income, and a foot long and "manlets" being only 6 feet tall. Eff-Dee-Ess types are amusingly slightly more reasonable in that they usually are comprised of desperate single mothers: 3's and 4's praying that they can transform their liabilities into assets for "real men" to r…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/12/23 02:51 PM
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It's also important to agree on what words mean. "Choice" means several things including the ability to decide between two particular actions, via full disclosure and I think most women truly have that. They have had at least 2 generations to see the effects of single motherhood and feminism and yet continue their behavior. But also... it means sometimes that people don't fully exercise control for the consequences of choices. I didn't consciously choose to be 30 lbs overweight, (I work out), bu…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/11/23 09:11 PM
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It appeared the guy was tall, had a professional career/degree, and her religion (in that order). I think she won the lottery, both young and at her current age, hence why comments were closed. What I think was most interesting about her tale is how she bullshitted herself with a list of requirements and preferences and a point system to pretend like he was "earning" her love when, in reality, her list was merely a hamster wheel rationalization to avoid shit testing the guy away. Kudos to her fo…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/11/23 08:51 PM
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As you said, it's not just introspection but also empathy. I don't think it's only denying sex to Jake Paul that got that chick to land him, but rather she had a lot else going on just as me simply refusing to buy Emily a drink would have necessarily gotten me laid. I believe this is why Eff Dee Ess largely doesn't work because it's just women using the only game they have (denying betas sex and making him buy them stuff) works largely only on beta males they are unattracted to and they don't wa…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/11/23 02:09 AM
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I believe I grok your point and we are in agreement: She can't get Chad's commitment by withholding sex from Chad but she doesn't realize that because only Chad (with a master's degree of course) is who she sees (more on this in a minute). What's interesting about the above example, as many here would probably agree, is that at least if Emily responded to me by asking me to buy her a drink, rather than just telling me to bugger off, that means I have a foot in the door. I would respond to her "I…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/11/23 08:15 PM
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To put this as simply as possible, she cannot get the man she wants by withholding sex from him because hot men she wants can get sex from some other woman. Not only that, but it's not uncommon for otherwise desirable men to be dismissed as betas when they do take no for an answer and get friendzoned. Not only that, but modern "traditional dating" is based upon men paying for dates and entertaining her in exchange for trying to have sex with her. Old fashioned courtship usually took place in a c…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/11/23 05:33 PM
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Before the Eff Dee Ess manual was taken private, the philosophy stated that a woman should NEVER marry a man in a 51/49 relationship where she is giving even 1 bit more even if, together, her life is effectively double what she would have single. It reminds me of the joke about the djinni who grants one wish to each guy and the last one says "Take the other guys' wishes away". They must extract resources from men as a matter of principal. They want him to waste money at expensive restaurants, ev…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/11/23 03:23 AM
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Well duh. Consider how she mentions she has a master's degree. Why? Does she mention it in context that she blew her 20's as a corporate/academic nun pursuing masculine success or is it because she's saying she has a master's and is looking for a man whose similarly or greater equipped? She closes with saying she's a "lovely human being", but aren't there guys who work at McD's also "lovely human beings" worthy of love? What's astonishing is the copium on her part closing with how it shouldn't b…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/11/23 11:26 PM
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My crazy-redhead MILF girlfriend back 20 years ago was pregnant as a teen and gave up her child for adoption. She says she sometimes burst into tears when she passed a store with little boys clothing but the child was better off. Anyhoo, where was I? Yeah, women back then gave up the child for adoption and went on to have families in two parent homes. And heck, this is a useful question to ask: Whatever happened to a woman's "right" to have an abortion so she could better her life? A strange epi…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/11/23 03:14 AM
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Back in the late 90's, when dinosaurs roamed the Earth... there were not yet pregnant women posting "I know my worth" but nonetheless, I saw a profile on match of a precursor of things to come: A 35 year old woman said she had just adopted a third world child and was looking to date. I marveled at it for a moment. I supposed in some ways, it was the ultimate single mother where a man would be an "instant father" to someone NEITHER of them were related by blood to. I was stunned for a moment befo…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/11/23 12:50 AM
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What this means, I think, is that she was a bitch to Chad or Alpha when she was younger and now she's ready to settle down with them and "they" are gone. Believe it or not, not all Chads are abusive. My niece is gorgeous and in her early 20's she ate and spit out Chads for breakfast, so to speak. She's been with the latest one for about 2 years now and they seem like they're doing fine, but I wonder if she'll shit test him and ruin that too.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/11/23 10:33 PM
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There's sad stories about women who are bitter about not getting the CS they want and punishing the father via the kid. A friend of mine's ex was bitter so she alienated the daughter against him and at age 24, the daughter is obese, has blue hair, and is a trainwreck. Woody's Allen said his ex Mia told him "If you fight me in court, you'll regret it" and a week later she came up with the abuse story. Woody's son turned gay and his adopted daughter is in a perpetual state of rage. As a loving fat…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/11/23 10:29 PM
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But isn't that just a rather exotic form of a guy hooking up with a single mother?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/11/23 10:15 PM
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It's not about "fuck", it's about MARRY and have kids with. She can find tons of men willing to fuck her. The 21 yo waitress can also find men to fuck her. We live in an era of women who are fucking around. The problem is many of them are not good marriage or mother material hence why so many single mothers running around.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/11/23 12:42 AM
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Sadly, the pro-lifers allow women to avoid consequences because of chivalry and this includes "safe haven infant abandonment" because there are women who simply toss unwanted babies into dumpsters (at least 33 per year, despite these laws.) I read a pro-lifer arguing to expand the welfare state to help out single mothers. Single mothers are basically allowed to exploit their child as a hostage. Due to fascist regimes such as China and Germany, it's politically difficult to call for reasonable so…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/11/23 03:13 PM
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My wife was just remarking about how, despite her being helicopter mommy, there are other women she knows who take it to the next level preparing lunches for their children GOING TO A PRIVATE SCHOOL. Granted, no lunch beats what inmates get at a Finnish prison or school, but the private school food menu appears quite delicious and my wife chose that school precisely because she was excited our child would enjoy good food but the other mothers said "the child is so fussy". Well, STARVE THE KID an…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/11/23 04:10 AM
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Happy Thanksgiving. My wife is lovingly cleaning the floor at this very moment. Not kidding. We have company coming and the floor is fine, but she insists upon doing it again with the most manual method imaginable. It tired me watching her so I closed my office door.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/11/23 05:33 PM
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You missed a key criteria, something that's been present since the beginning of women's "liberation" and become increasingly important: He has to be "hot" too. But they don't often want to admit this because to demand "hot, successful, traditional, and reliable" comes across as arrogant although that doesn't stop the delusional ones. The term "leader" is also used as a way for them to manipulate the man into giving her what she wants without her having to accept responsibility for it. He "leads"…
/r/TheRedPill21/11/23 03:27 AM
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u/lurkerhasarisen About 60 years ago, women who wanted leaders and "protectors" even, MADE them. She simply chose a decent enough looking young man or prospect in his 20's and supported him. He didn't have to spend his 20's on his own to make it. She taught him to lead, so to speak, by submitting to him. Divorce was rare not only for the reasons we well know, but these women lived in a submissive/supportive mindset that they enjoyed regardless. For example: On the other side of the coin, these w…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/11/23 08:59 PM
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Idiocracy was a fun movie particularly due to the various compromises needing to get it made such as the political correctness of all the dumbest characters being white. I didn't mind if that's what it took to get the film greenlighted. An interesting aspect of the film was that the protagonist arrives just in time when collapse is imminent. The Brawndo corporation had taken over the government and used it to water plants which was killing them and ultimately, a massive dieoff would occur where …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/11/23 01:05 AM
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The problem with this is that they can't go back to the 1950's which was the pinnacle of feminine entitlement. They had most of the rights with nearly none of the responsibilities and a high standard of living but the bourgeois Karens thought they could double dip: "I DESERVE a high paying career and a REAL man will be happy to pay the bills while I'm an independent boss babe who banks the money to divorce him if I'm in the mood OR just spend it at the spa! He can just work for the pleasure of b…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/11/23 07:38 PM
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The tragedy for this gal and her "submissive woman to a WORTHY man" fantasy is that she will permit him to have sex with her (on her terms, of course), cook him dinner and feed him, and provide him with basic affection. He just has to "provide" EVERYTHING else. But is that a good deal for most modern men, really? Even if she was sincere, most men by their 40's are capable of washing their own dishes, cooking food, and running a vacuum and washing machine. Her services are simply overpriced.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/11/23 07:21 PM
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That's a fantastic comment and it's good to remind us how men went through these feelings of loneliness in our formative years without any compassion or sympathy from society. Heck, to even express such sentiments would result in bullying. This woman isn't just lonely, but still demands "protect and lead" meaning she still hopes for someone to pass her shit tests or pay for things (in womanese). When I was 20, I'd have been happy for a woman who just wasn't a burden. Someone who expected me to p…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/11/23 07:14 PM
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The number one RP concept I want to deprogram from men is this notion that men "enjoy" being providers and protectors for women and that this is the natural way men and women live. That's all romanticized garbage from the media (and by media, I meant romantic books such as Don Quixote as well as Hollywood). Women in the 1950's HAD IT MADE. They had middle and working class men brainwashed to work long hours while they just had to run vacuum and put laundry and dishes in machines and pop quaalude…
/r/TheRedPill19/10/23 02:34 PM
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I largely agree with the general conclusion, but a quibble over the notion as man as breadwinner/protector with a woman as "fun". That is a product of a tiny slice of western history perhaps between 1900 to 1990. Most women were expected to work in the fields, factories, textile mills and so on. Women from high society, "ladies", didn't have to work because the family had wealth to provide for servants. A man of high society, a "gentle"man (<--note the wording), didn't engage in physical work. "…
/r/TheRedPill18/10/23 08:48 PM
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In defense of Leo, we don't know if he "had" to put in earbuds to cum, but rather the opposite: He's had so much sex that it's as easy for him to cum as we can wear earbuds when walking on a treadmill. An ex-gf of mine 25 years ago says her HS teacher claims to have banged JFK back in the late 50's indicating that if her students somehow found about it, there are few who probably DIDN'T know. So as much heat as Leo has taken for him living the good life from the BP crowd, there's literally lines…
/r/TheRedPill13/10/23 04:35 PM
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Although this opens up saying it isn't from a moral/relationship standpoint, I think we need to have morality in our relationships with women because our society has hit rock bottom. Women are accustomed to men pandering to their most banal behaviors to enjoy the opportunity to have sex with them. They're plied with false flattery and validation (which is increasingly ineffective, that's a good thing), but now women are simply throwing shit tests at men to demand he perform like a dancing monkey…
/r/TheRedPill13/10/23 03:52 PM
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I don't think she's a feminazi. She probably thinks she's being reasonable and moderate and helping men learn how to "treat the ladies." She's more like a trad-fem which are almost as dangerous because they teach blue pill thinking to naive young men. "Look! I have a boyfriend so I'm an expert on gender relations! Don't look at women and keep your eyes down, and understand how women need to feel safe by you being submissive! That turns women on!" It's a BS narrative and I should have called her …
/r/TheRedPill10/10/23 08:18 PM
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Let’s review what I said: “Doesn’t that sound to you like someone who hates men and/or doesn’t respect them?” Your response: “You’ve clearly never been unwantedly sexualized by someone and can’t imagine how uncomfortable it is, and how uncomfortable it continues to be.” Wrong. I’ve had gay men hit on me as well as fat old ladies and yes, there are some men who have reacted quite viscerally but note that this guy only admitted to having a crush on her and never actually hit on her. Your response …
/r/TheRedPill06/10/23 07:14 PM
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Again, I’m “condescending” because you misstated what a guy said and I pointed it out twice and you still refuse to acknowledge it. I even put the contradictions in bold font so hopefully a 39 year old can spot it without reading glasses. (That’s a joke!) You aren’t wrong that women will react with increasing levels of hostility towards strange men but that’s what you projected upon the OP: You SAID he was starting to hate women when instead he said he felt they hated him and that’s a legitimate…
/r/TheRedPill06/10/23 06:12 PM
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I observed your claim: “TBF, your own words are that you’re “starting to feel hatred” towards women” was false. He said, quote, “I am starting to feel hated as a man because of it.” You jump to the conclusion “but as a man, he's starting to feel hatred within himself” and I’ll acknowledge I did so as well in that you didn’t state explicitly for him to feel guilty for looking at them in his field of view. What is clear is that these women have their own issues with men seeing them and looking awa…
/r/TheRedPill06/10/23 03:41 PM
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Would you like a woman’s perspective? Why should he? What are you doing here?!?! You're advising him to avoid women to avoid offending them, but yet here you are asking for attention yourself. Shouldn't you follow your own advice and shut up so your presence doesn't make us uncomfortable? You also didn't listen to what he said. He didn't say he was starting to feel hatred TOWARDS women but that he felt hatred FROM women. So your advise is, at best, useful to read between-the-lines but not to be …
/r/TheRedPill06/10/23 02:46 PM
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took the ice cube trays out of the freezer That actually happened to my lawyer back in 1985. His wife ran off and left him and cleared out the place leaving only the fridge. He carried a glass and whiskey bottle in his briefcase (of course, even when arguing murder trials), and he got peaved: "The "rich" took the ice cube trays!!!" I suppose it happened before to other guys too to make this a movie line.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/09/23 01:37 AM
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Ukrainians SAVE their sour milk and make kefir out of it.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/09/23 12:19 AM
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I think why women empathize with losers is that their "shit tests" are short circuited by men who lack normal functional skills. A shit test sees if a man will make a normal, healthy response to her but losers are not normal or healthy. Same goes with sociopaths and psychopaths. Women don't empathize with men because they're raised not to. I noticed in other cultures without a strong feminist/chivalry system going that the women simply related to men as people. They had empathy issues but they w…
/r/TheRedPill31/08/23 02:54 AM
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I know some like this. They appear to revel in it as some kind of accomplishment. They think they're a "challenge" to a "real man" and they're doing him a favor to justify his existence and prove his worth. Another thing: People like kids in general, particularly if they're well behaved so if you see a kid at the store, you may be kind and sweet to them but this is NOT the same as accepting responsibility for them. I often joke about this when a woman says "Your daughter is so adorable!" and I'l…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/08/23 03:36 PM
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I did that for a provocative headline to tie in the military "field wife" angle. I have read that modern jeeps have a lot of service issues. Is that true for certain models or years or do they get a bad rap?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/08/23 12:17 PM
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This sounds like it would be good material for Where are all the good men on trp.red. Can you get some good examples and post them there? I have a hypothesis for when non-wall women are on dating apps and not just the ones who are obviously way past their prime: Normal women in healthy countries (or at least less diseased) know how to flirt with men and get normal dates and socialize. In the states, most of the women here lack basic skills to relate to men in a non-hostile manner. They associate…
/r/TheRedPill08/08/23 01:52 AM
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A friend of mine married the first girl he ever laid in college. She was frumpy and demanding and got knocked up about a year in. He worked at a normal job and after commuting home, she'd then demand he help clean up around the home as well AND griped that he should get a weekend job to buy more stuff she demanded. Nonetheless, she didn't divorce him (she's smart enough to know that she'd have problems getting laid, much less a better husband) and married for more than 30 years. In a way, for me…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/08/23 12:59 AM
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The irony of your statement is that the female hivemind is, in a manner of speaking, The Abilene Paradox. Women themselves don't know what they're doing or why in that context. They largely follow trends that are set up by the elites that are mostly the Patriarchy. Many women spend their lives impressing each other by spending tens of thousands of dollars on designer handbags to make that family brand wealthy. They use sex to pressure men to blow money at restaurants or on diamond rings instead …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/08/23 09:22 PM
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This comment cannot be upvoted enough. Thanks for the epiphany. We live in an era where we can use google to get answers that previously would have required spending a day at the library or paying big bucks to a professional. We even have terms to describe feminine behavior that stumped men a generation ago such as "shit test". On the female side, studying what motivates men and more importantly, the games that men now play requires they delve into their own psychological motivations which troub…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/08/23 07:31 PM
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Minor quibble/observation: The vast majority of men throughout history were 2nd class. Heck, the vast majority of men up until about 2 centuries ago were "serfs". This is why there's the myth of "the noble savage" and the dream of men to live in the forest in a cabin rather have have to kiss-the-ring of a corporate boss. The original revolt of European men against feudalism began in the 17th century and continued ever since. It was largely driven by men because men are not a protected class. Mos…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/08/23 07:17 PM
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It's funny how such women's reactions are similar to that of male incels when they get frustrated. Men who are subjected to years of harsh rejection and lack of physical and emotional intimacy leave them emotionally jittery which harms their very efforts to appear "confident" and "abundance mentality" to pick up women. Biological clock-tickers are in a similar situation: They need to appear fun and pleasant to land the type of men they want to marry because admitting she's in a hurry might make …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/08/23 09:11 PM
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It's interesting to ask why gays want to marry if they don't want kids. There are benefits such as taxes, estate planning, and so on but trusts can often do a better job with those issues.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/07/23 07:22 PM
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I have a daughter, but if I had a son, I'd advise him that he has a "wall", of sorts, that he needs to also learn how to navigate. Women in general are not getting prettier and smarter, at least in the near future. Young women are increasingly obese, raised by single mothers, emotionally damaged, and so on. Those that are not, are like fresh produce at the grocery store: If you don’t get early to the store, the good stuff is grabbed and off the shelves or… it’s been groped by a dozen people befo…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/07/23 03:23 AM
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Although the internet did damage, the social trends we observe now were already set in motion. Back in the dinosaur era, it was tough to find anything red pill because where could I even hear about them? I read some trad-conservative magazines but those were purple pilled at best. I got into the internet back in 1987 and even though it was in its infancy, I was able to network (literally) with fellow thinking minds and find references to books I could buy mail order. There was the conventional i…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/07/23 03:05 AM
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I chuckled about that as well in that in her universe, she's so desirable that every man who can afford her, would be happy to pay. I heard such shaming ploy language as well from high pressure salesman who kicked me out the door saying: "These people can't afford about luxury offerings." It did manage to get me out the door (as I wanted) once when the salesman tried this line: "So you're saying you want to waste your money instead of buying our timeshare offering?" and I replied: "Yes, I am was…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/07/23 03:18 PM
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I'm chuckling because I guess I didn't realize how I had it so good coming of age at the end of the Boomer years in the mid-80's: It was the tail end of affordable housing and education and jobs were increasingly becoming competitive. Middle class career women had minimal hypergamy going: "Just be AT LEAST as tall, income as me!" and if you were lucky, they'd only divorce you 1/3 times and take your stuff. Asking them out was pretty easy comparatively and men almost never got fired for doing so.…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/07/23 02:38 PM
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To her credit, she doesn't say anything about height. The collapse of the paradigm will arrive when such women try to become newborn Christian virgins and want an old guy with a 401K, a home not upside-down on the mortgage, and a running car to marry them while they can still have kids.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/07/23 02:07 PM
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There's an amusing difference between the friendzone and the fuckbin is that the friendzone men are there BECAUSE they are acting according to what women have told them what they want: "gentlemen", "nice guys", "believe in women's equality", "respect her boundaries". My brother was the late-baby-boomer who managed to break through The-Friend-Zone in that back in the mid-80's, the women in their early 20's settled down and he landed one with a relatively low body count. Back then, the "landing zo…
/r/TheRedPill17/07/23 11:36 PM
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I chuckle at this reasoning from her, quote: "accused me of [...] withholding sex for 3 months (which btw is false im just not comfortable having sex so soon without a commitment)" So what? One can still consent to something and not be comfortable. Men consent to pay for dates even if we're not comfortable doing so because if we don't, the women may not want to see us again. That's extortion but it's legal. My wife wanted me to go with her to the pool and I went because it made her happy and mad…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/07/23 01:04 PM
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I'm chuckling about the hysteria over his use of the word "boundaries". Eff Dee Ess gals all the time rephrase their demands as "standards" when in reality they don't have standards that apply to themselves such as personal responsibility and generosity. I don't think she was a 304 (for the reasons he mentions in the text) but rather her lifestyle just made him uncomfortable and there was no way she was going to give up all those things for him. He should have just said he was walking and if she…
/r/TheRedPill12/07/23 06:20 PM
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Feminism in the states is a particular variant with the only worse one imaginable might be Sweden but at least in Sweden the women are prettier. This is because it’s “intersectional” with “white guilt” which makes a particularly toxic brew of entitlement and victimhood. Also, in the USA, even before modern feminism there was a woman shortage from the frontier era. The USA is a land of extremes going from Sexual Puritanism over to Sexual perversion within 2 generations. Generally, women in other …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/07/23 11:22 PM
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On the eff-dee-ess site, the harpies chuckled "We can get nookie anytime we want! Tee hee! We have value!" They fail to understand that the ability to get nookie isn't the same as relationship value and get angry that men see a difference. "Men lie to me after I punish men who are honest!"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/07/23 03:36 AM
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What's probably humbling for her, as she's going through what men do when she talks up men and tries to ask them out, that the very act of asking out someone on a date instantly raises their self-esteem. If someone whose not hot asks out someone whose mediocre, that mediocre person thinks to themselves "Someone just validated I'm attractive so... why should I settle for them? I can do better, can't I?"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/06/23 03:23 AM
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That's pretty much how women treat short men with utter contempt and even dehumanize them as "boys". I thought it was stupid and cruel at the time, but I remember how Al Bundy on Married with Children regularly mocked obese women despite the running joke of him being low on the socio-economic scale. He was in no status position to judge fat women because they were often his customers and he had to be pleasant to them for his job. I thought the jokes were juvenile at the time, but in context they…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/06/23 03:18 AM
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In all fairness, she listed it as a "requirement" but weighed height at the same points as "communicates daily". So in theory, if a guy calls her once a day, it's ok if he's short. Heck, her whole rationalization is off because she lists something as a "requirement" when in reality, no man is going to have all of them so doesn't that detract from the definition of what a "requirement" means? The only purpose to add the points for requirements is to assess her total must-haves in relation to "nic…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/06/23 11:32 PM
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Although her list is excessive, I've seen something similar in girls I met back in the 1980's who tried to cover up their shallowness by adding more to the pile (sort of like a "paper chase"). In womanese: "Men are so shallow! They want a woman whose pretty and is submissive but I'm not shallow at all! I only want a man whose handsome, rich, sincere, likes animals, well mannered, has hobbies AND religious! See? I don't care ONLY about looks unlike shallow men!" So adding more requirements, in th…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/06/23 11:21 PM
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Another thought is that therapists can't help cure delusions that are part of the overall society itself. As far as the therapist is concerned, this woman's method of dating is probably "healthy" and "liberated". Traditional dating is broken. In the old days, women were on notice that they could, and should, market themselves for marriage as young as possible seeking the advice of trusted adults (their parents or professional matchmakers), having something else to offer other than their body, an…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/06/23 09:23 PM
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Minor quibble: Cats are associated with inspins because they are great pets. They're low maintenance and have wonderful insights into friendship. A cat won't be a friend whose not a friend to him. We ought to respect cats for this insight. There's tons of wonderful cats euthanized at kill shelters annually. All of my cats were abandoned or shelter cats. I'm typing this from a house that basically my street cat got me because the owner of this house loved him so much, he buried the cat when he di…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/06/23 02:14 AM
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My wife knows a good-looking mid-30's Russian single mother golddigger who managed to somehow lock down a business executive who married and bought her a nice home that she then demanded he renovate the kitchen at $100,000. It's sort of a running joke in the Slavic community circle we're in that a old babcha grandmother cooked ten thousand delicious meals in a kitchen costing 1/50th as much. What astonishes me actually is that the guy put a ring on her. She isn't having any more kids and even th…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/06/23 03:49 PM
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This is the "real man" combo shaming ploy and thinking they're doing us a favor. A "Real Man" naturally enjoys paying the bills and being a protector so why should she be grateful beyond just being the recipient of such actions? They do recognize that this is increasingly rare "a REAL man is hard to find!" but yet don't consider that if boys need to literally earn a status as an adult man, doesn't that imply that effort needs to be amply rewarded and supported? The only currency such women have …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/06/23 03:41 PM
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I've dated women that long before without getting nookie particularly if I had a dry spell. It wasn't a big deal. Not only that but they seemed to be beyond the stage of him wining and dining her and spent a lot of time at each others' places. What I think happened was that he was biding his time to see if she made a "move" or if he needed to later, or even just letting things naturally escalate but in the meantime, he kept his dating apps activated and options open. I also think the guy had "op…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/06/23 09:43 PM
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Repost with different title to conform with Rule 5/Weekend content.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/06/23 07:07 PM
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Perhaps, but consider this scenario: My wife is one of those women who will go to the store and reach to the furthest back of the fridge to dig for the freshest eggs even though a dozen eggs only lasts about a week at most in our house and the expiration date is at least 3 weeks off (I verified that in my fridge just now!) I use that analogy for a reason in that women are highly conscious about how important it is to have the most absolutely freshest eggs. One feminist sneered to me: “Well, you …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/06/23 04:04 PM
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It's my guess, and I could be off, that she's a "corporate nun". Her stated emphasis on her career and family implies that she spent her youth serving her corporate masters, her parents, and perhaps binge watching a few Disney princess flicks. CC riders tend to get knocked up by bad boys hence why there are so many single mothers out there. Corporate nuns on the other hand are sort of "traditionalist" in that they want "the old fashioned" romance of the male provider/serf "earning" her affection…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/06/23 03:08 AM
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This depends upon when she froze them. If she was in her 20's and got her eggs frozen (doubtful since this is a recent innovation), then her odds are 50:50 of a viable pregnancy. If she froze them recently, it's 38%. Logically, a 20 something woman spending money to freeze her eggs isn’t really hedging her bets that she can have a family later if she doesn’t meet someone but rather justifying her own decision to blow her 20’s off rather than get married. Think about it: if having a family matter…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/05/23 10:24 PM
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I enjoyed that analogy between a housecat and a tiger and searched for a way to make it work for women such as her: They want to be taken care of like pets, able to act out their wild side with a loving owner to take care of them, unconditionally. A "real" man doesn't have a housecat, he has a tiger (in their minds.) But even guys with tigers or housecats want the cats not because they're "intimidating" but rather for their feminine side. My housecats are my best friends, who never repaid my lov…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/05/23 07:50 PM
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What's funny about her is that she's already pursuing status for herself and yet, it doesn't provide anything for the man in the relationship other than for him to be criticized and judged. An example from my sister's (ex) marriage: Her X was/is a Naval Officer who kept everything organized in the home perfectly. He saw her 8 months pregnant sweeping and ran up, grabbed the broom, and started sweeping. He then handed it back to her and said: "That's how you do it, RIGHT! Now you can do the other…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/05/23 05:31 PM
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I'm reminded of something Steve Harvey, whose been divorced a zillion times, tries to give personal advise to women and one of the most dangerous was: "Buy a first class ticket on an airplane and then you'll be motivated to be successful to have that all the time because economy class will become unacceptable." That's the WORST piece of advice I ever heard because simply because you have greater demands, doesn't mean that your ability to match. Instead, it likely means you'll be miserable as you…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/05/23 04:12 PM
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Hehehe. Think about what you just said: "she probably even knows a few of them being that she's in a PhD program" So... why doesn't she go out with one of the guys in the PhD program? :-)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/05/23 08:09 PM
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No need to have sympathy for him. He has a bachelor degree, a family business that provides income, and he's hitting his SMV/RMV peak. If anything, she owes him a favor for having given her the opportunity to see what having a family would be like. She even says, quote "seemed too good to be true" because she realizes, at some level, that her demands were unlikely. Sure, there are "plenty of single people with graduate degrees" just as there are, say, plenty of beauty contest winners or plenty o…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/05/23 07:52 PM
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Thanks. Funny story: Last Valentine's Day, I saw a great sale on snowcrab legs at Harris Teeters so I bought 2 lbs because my wife LOVES seafood. I opened it up and bleah, it was mediocre. We tried half, didn't enjoy it much, so left the other half in the fridge. A week later, I told my wife that we should toss it. "No! Don't throw away fish!" I finally just went and tossed it. (I exercised considerable restraint and did NOT give it one final whiff before doing so!) The purpose of that analogy i…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/05/23 07:49 PM
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Here's another way of looking at it: She's ungrateful. That's right: She's got LESS to offer than he does. He's a college educated man with a family business (income) and in a good age group. She's going to hit biological clock ticker territory soon and she drove away any men that do meet her standards with her pushy questioning. His LIE offered her something she wouldn't have had otherwise: A chance to get married and have kids. She realizes now that walking away from him means she's back on th…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/05/23 06:02 PM
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Interesting analogy. As the father of a 7 year old, all lego sets are "bad" after the first day when my daughter misplaces several pieces. The point of legos is creativity but then there are those sets that are designed to be built in a certain configuration where missing a single piece means they're broken but then, what's the point of it? It's basically a puzzle then. With hypergamy, people are "broken" if they're "missing" something but marriage vows state "for better or worse" which really m…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/05/23 05:08 PM
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This borders on a Rule 3. The point is she's being hypergamous making demands that few "honest" men would meet. It would be similar to a normal guy demanding a beauty contestant online and griping he keeps getting catfished. Hypergamy people are, by definition, NOT fair because a fair deal means she'd be just as willing to marry down as up which is why hypergamous people are usually dishonest about trying to get more than they enter into a relationship. Look at all the double talk in her rationa…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/05/23 05:05 PM
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I had an insight that paying for dates is like raffle tickets: You can buy ALL of the raffle tickets and "win", but you "lost" because you paid 4X what someone else did. If you're lucky (say, handsome), then you don't even have to buy a ticket, you'll get the prize for free. The rest of us are between that where he buys a certain number of tickets to take his shot and she either gives him the prize, or doesn't, but he realizes that he's unlikely to win anything more than wasting his time and mon…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/05/23 03:39 PM
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That's why it's posted on the weekend and flaired "WAATGM in the making". She made a lot of demands against a man who had choices and he bailed and she wanted to figure out what happened. It could also be titled "Epiphany Phase". She has no problems getting "men", but has issues with getting one she desires to commit.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/05/23 02:35 PM
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She was making fun of him because her ex is also named Caleb and (allegedly) a "jerk" when Caleb, in the (infamous) profile was saying that single mothers call the fathers of their kids jerks even as they CHOSE the fathers of their children. FYI, those are BOTH her children (not one of them being her in the photo.) So she's soon to be a single mother looking for a "real man".
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/04/23 01:19 AM
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If you've ever seen the film Kramer vs Kramer, it illustrates when marriage become risky for men when "no-fault" (meaning it's always the man's fault) divorce and women's workplace equality combined to make marriage a highly risky proposition for men. Even so, the odds were largely like playing blackjack: 50:50. For men, to get married and have kids meant that he had to hope to "be lucky". It's an interesting question to ask both young men and those who have had the worst happen: If you could go…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/04/23 02:39 PM
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Actually, he said he was just 1/2 inch under 6 feet tall making him above average height.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/03/23 07:36 PM
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There's the saying that you look at how your date treats the waiter because that's you in a few years. (Many) women only respect men with status because chivalry has stripped men of human value. We're disposable meaning our value, like a cheap food container, is defined by the usable contents. When I hear chivalrists justify female supremacy in that "women make babies" I point out that this only applies to women from puberty to about age 45 or so. After that, even a low value man is of more valu…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/03/23 07:34 PM
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The problem is that women nowadays often set an arbitrary filter at 6 feet because they like that simple number like men like D cup breast size. I've dated women with breasts larger than D cups. What's amusing about this is that a 5'11" guy is doing pretty well for himself. He's 2 inches above average height and he can lie and say he's 6' tall. Women who use OLD joke about men who are 5'11" who say they're 6' tall but note they lie about their weight as well. This guy shouldn't have swiped on th…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/03/23 03:20 AM
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I turned the tables on them in this regard when I suggested on a forum that I wouldn't date a mixed race woman. The mixed race woman heightest went ballistic which was amusing in that she would never date me in a million years, but how dare I "thought crime" and reject her for a reason SHE found offensive? I think she also realized that, well, she was low SMV for chad and engaged in rejecting men due to height (even if only in her mind) because that made her feel valuable but couldn't imagine th…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/03/23 03:16 AM
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This breaks rule 1, but I want to clarify that this is projection rather than a legitimate accusation. None of us said we want her to stay in a bad relationship because she has tingles. Or that we want her to move on from healthy relationships. We don't have anything against women making responsible, healthy decisions. Modern, entitled women consistently refer to "settling" as a bad thing when "settling" is fundamental to our existence in that adults accept we can't get everything we want. Most …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/03/23 03:10 AM
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Small caveat about that: Women LIKE being lied to, really. It took me a while to realize that being "sincere" and "earnest" was a HUGE turnoff for modern women who wanted a party clown to entertain them into bed. Let's put this into perspective: A guy lies about his height, and she won't want to see him. OK. But a guy lies about, say, his drug use or employment reliability and she'll still sleep with him and even try to "fix" him. I know several women who bore children for charming, handsome sub…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/03/23 02:26 AM
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Thanks for not brigading but nonetheless sharing that. What a wonderful line "Most forget sparks are a result of faulty wiring". I'm stealing it.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/03/23 11:51 PM
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This triggered a memory of something I read back about 30 years ago that back when women (still) valued relationships with men and they were still in school, they'd model themselves as the ideal woman to catch the man they had an eye on. So if their crush was a guy who liked football, she'd become a football cheerleader. If the guy she liked was good at math, she'd study math BUT be VERY careful to not do better than him. Some women even sabotaged their own grades so they wouldn't threaten the m…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/03/23 08:37 PM
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If you haven't read Don Quixote, it's worth consideration as a classic in that I think it was meant as a parody of the woman-on-a-pedestal chivalrous ideal nonsense of the time even as we've adopted many of its precepts including lauding the town wench as a "lady". Women's natures, like boys, are irrational and selfish and parents and society need to condition them for adult responsibilities. I have a 6 year old and I'm doing that now. It's tough. I love this little girl and I need to discipline…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/03/23 02:23 AM
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I chuckle because I had a woman ask me that on the internet (back then) 30 years ago "you don't seem to like women very much" in the sense that women on dates back then, IMO, were behaving awfully towards men and I had standards. Things just kept getting worse for men for each generation. All my father had to do in 1958 to land my mother was look up my mother's name in the telephone book. That was her "test" for him. Even then, I was sort of put off by that since it was a BS test and just a way …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/03/23 01:10 AM
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I chuckled at her use of wording "I'm not very attractive". That isn't quite the same as saying "I'm ugly" or "I'm plain looking" but she then follows up with acknowledging she isn't getting many responses. I was thinking of using the flair "damaged goods" because she appears to be a dopamine junkie. She wants "the fairytale" where "happily ever after" means that she doesn't want any feelings of awkwardness that aren't charming quirks. "Self-confident BUT sensitive." He can, SHOULD, shed a tear …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/03/23 07:47 PM
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The 23 year old girls have a point that I, at least, was a more "mature" person in my 30's than I was in my 20's but that meant I was improving as I got older, particularly mentally. One wants to improve (overall) as one ages even if we become less physically fit but it usually requires (unpleasant) work that's labeled as "manning up". Sticking self-improvement on men as a masculine burden undermines these women's abilities to mature gracefully. Back in the 1990's, I dated older women because th…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/01/23 04:55 PM
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That's a great comment because that's how a smart woman is supposed to think and a smart man for that matter: Learn the RIGHT lessons from your mistakes rather than learning the WRONG lessons from your successes. In the latter, the "dumb" women, and many otherwise educated women make this mistake, thinking that "hot men" who chat her up and provide sexual attention means she is good "relationship" material from a hot man when he was using her as a fling. She then "learns" that "all" men are out …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/01/23 04:40 PM
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Minor quibble: We often see on this forum "bailout" profiles from women making outrageous demands as they believe their demands have some sort of value to a "real" man. Plain looking men tend to hit on plain looking women hence it drives up the ego of these women. I found "smoking hot girls" easier to talk to overall because these women didn't have a mental pathology going on where they were angry that other women might look down on them or they couldn't score the top men so they took out their …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/01/23 04:34 PM
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I had an ex girlfriend who was a lot of fun to be around (but unstable) but after I left, I continued to enjoy The Ventures and The Loving Spoonful as well as boat shows. I introduced her to opera but... I don't think it stuck.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/12/22 12:34 AM
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This deserves reposting into perpetuity... Indeed, I joined a dating agency back in the 90's and there were a lot of "Heidi"s in it. Women who had hit a "passage" where the hottest guys weren't asking them out anymore, or she realized she wanted to settle down and thought "Well, maybe I need to join a dating agency where the alpha chads are!" and they were disappointed to find they were full of guys like me.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/12/22 12:33 AM
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There's a key "caveat" to that 20% stat (if it's legit). Probably 80% of those women did not CHOOSE the father of their children. There's a reason why shows such The Bachelor have the cheesy tradition of the man asking the father of the girl he's about to take to the fantasy suite "bless" his proposal he might make to her: It was either the families that chose who betrothed the daughters, invaders, or economic necessity. Women slept with whom they were ordered to. It's an interesting paradigm if…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/11/22 12:09 AM
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Exactly. As men, we don't understand that modern women live in a different universe than we do. They don't think about consequences. They can get sexual validation in their youth hence they believe they're immortal. They're like Julius Caesar WITHOUT the guy muttering in her ear "remember thou art mortal.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/11/22 03:36 AM
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And this alone proves why women's equality doesn't work: They have zero respect for decent men. Yes, they WANT those traits in men, but they don't value them enough to provide for them. What good is it to give women rights when they have no interesting in exercising them for the good of others that matter to them?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/10/22 02:00 AM
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She is pretty and generally talks quite gently but she is continually focused on making money all the time. Sort of like The Protestant Work Ethic. In some ways, I'd think she'd be great if she was a man but her money is her money, like keeping score.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/09/22 12:32 AM
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I just had a conversation with a masculine woman at our BBQ this last weekend. She's lovely but mentally male but not in the usual sense. A masculine man whose successful would make room in his life for personal relationships. "I made it so a pretty woman with a kind heart can share that." She wants to demand a man be more successful than her and push everyone else around her as well. I suggested with a drunken voice she could relax a bit, read books on philosophy and enjoy life. She suggested I…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/09/22 04:49 PM
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There's the other side which are thirsty/mamas boy fathers who raise their daughters to be princesses. They do have relationships with their father who provided her with everything she wanted and spoiled her rotten and she grows up to be a "queen". I called one of them "Veruca Salt" and she got all upset about it because I think she realized I had a point.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/09/22 04:00 PM
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There was, what I like to call, The Golden Age of Betas. Back about 50 years ago, and still in many cultures, being a beta male is rewarded. For example: A Russian girl came to the USA on a student visa, which I think is a huge scam, and then went husband hunting as in going out to nightclubs and waiting for a top ranking beta bucks to approach her. She was disgusted that the men were just looking to "use" her for companionship. She met an illegal alien from Honduras working at Chipotle and he h…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/09/22 05:12 PM
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High school reunions are incredible, aren't they? For the most part, the losers either filter themselves out or they have their own cliques so most that go are actually nice people by then. It was life affirming to me to see how people grew from my childhood recollection. I was open with my wife attending that some of the girls were pretty and it was ok for me to chat with them. Some even were flirty with me and my wife was treating me like a King for a few months! If my wife had a crush on a hi…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/09/22 05:00 PM
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Sadly, I personally wasn't in that position perhaps because I'm not so good looking. I had to pay for dates or, that was that. That being said, what counts as a "date" can be amazingly inexpensive. There are many wonderful restaurants where one can get out a good lunch out of them for $30 plus tip. I could escalate contact and if they said "let's take this slow" I would respond: "OK, then let's have (less expensive) dates then." Walks on the beach, tennis, hiking, and so on.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/09/22 03:16 AM
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That's ultimately what caused me to give up this hill: In the case of my wife, that was largely what I had to cough up. I never thought that I would look back at the 1980's as "fond times" when women were absolutely NASTY if I refused to pay for dates, but considering what young men go through today, I consider myself lucky.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/09/22 07:21 PM
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This wouldn't happen in Polish. :-) I edited it.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/09/22 02:43 AM
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Watched the video and what strike me was how effeminate the men were and how they talked, as if they were walking on eggshells. Many of their points were misleading such as claims the problem is due to men lacking social skills or lazy on the dating apps which isn't the case. Even men who have top text game get ghosted the majority of the time. They acted as if female hypergamy was this big secret and didn't want to touch on the feminist society that has emasculated men while making higher deman…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/09/22 04:24 PM
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I think things will change when men in your position do things differently. Here's what I would have done: I'd texted her and asked her when she, as a lady, was going to buy me lunch. Not dutch treat. If young women know their worth and can extort men to be "gentlemen" and pay for meals, why can't 4 percenters such as yourself make demands? I'd get this confirmation on the date itself face-to-face. If you even thought it was worth seeing her again, tell her outright she's taking you out at her e…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/09/22 04:19 PM
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I like what you said about how you want people to just have happy relationships. In conversations I have had with entitled women and feminists, they classify men they either find unattractive or refuse to meet their demands as sub-human. "Boys" or "Not Real Men". They have no appreciation for economics in that trashing men via divorce or dismissing them leaves less "Leos" for them to marry. They're like Dustin Hoffman's character in Rainman who thinks everything costs "About $100.00" A few times…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/09/22 02:20 PM
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My wife doesn't find Leo or Tom Cruise (even in their youth) attractive either but she's ok with me so... I'm not complaining. :-) THAT being said, the photos they show of Leo having "lost his looks" is usually something like him between movies and on the beach and not having shaved for a week which would be like those photos of Mila Kunis without makeup. He has "bad days" but when he's cleaned up, he's 6' tall and looks pretty good. He might need to hit nordictrack for a few months, but this is…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/09/22 02:08 PM
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Back in the 1970's, it was a big deal to get a "rice burner" car such as a Datsun, Toyota, or Honda. But people realized that unexciting cars that got good gas mileage and lasted forever were generally a better deal than a cool looking muscle car. It is interesting to me you're seeking a woman from PRC when that country has a notorious woman shortage and this illustrates how important culture and SMV is: In countries with plenty of pretty women, which I think was the case in the USA in the 1990'…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/09/22 01:05 AM
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Back about 30 years ago, when dinosaurs ruled the earth, I dated USA working class women and found it surprising how many of them had the "independent woman" entitlement mindset of "I don't NEED NO MAN!!!!" but still wanted the free meals and doors held open. She wants the man to provide, but to not respect him for doing so. To be protected, but to not submit to him. It's men's obligation AND PRIVILEGE to provide and protect her because we, as "real men" should enjoy doing it for the sake of it.…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/09/22 06:31 PM
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It was tough to tell my wife to resist the diamond craze but I convinced her when I pointed out that natural diamonds are ultimately going to be valued like an 8 track cassette player as the lab diamond market comes to fruition. The diamond jewelry industry itself is a neat commentary on the state of modern women: Highly marked up shiny rocks artificially inflated in value due to a cartel system utilizing environmentally destructive and human rights abusing methods. What's fascinating is how man…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/09/22 12:30 AM
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Consider pawn shops with this caveat. Go to one with a friend's ring similar to what you want and go to the pawn shop and ask them to buy it off of you. When they offer you a price, use THAT as the starting point in a negotiation to buy one of your own. :-)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/09/22 12:15 AM
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Minor quibble. The purpose of socialization is for people to exceed, and sometimes act in denial, of their natural behaviors. There's the phrase "raised by wolves" to describe feral humans absent conscious adult parenting. Where I'm going with this is that before chivalry kicked in, and modern feminism from 2 centuries ago, women largely acted more responsibly and prided themselves on SAVING money rather than spending it. Someone who grows up in an insane culture will think that psychopathology …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/09/22 12:13 AM
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My point is that CM and feminists don't mind "power" when it's in their hands (threatening to withhold sex in exchange for validation and goodies) but men who use their own power, even rightfully earned, to make demands is "rape". "Rape" carries this special meaning in their minds in that it's a worse crime than murder or slavery and particularly since it (socially) is regarded as only impacting women so basically women enjoy a special victim status with that as well. The irony is that the only …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/09/22 06:28 PM
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CM did have a point though: Modern feminism is obsessed with so-called 'equality' that's actually an artificial construct from chivalrous men: They want to be "rescued" as "damsel in distress" but unconditionally and without being considered "victims". They want to sell their bodies to men in exchange for attention, validation, and money but men shouldn't be ENTITLED to the bedroom fun they paid for. For example: A woman insists that a man can't have bedroom fun with her unless he pays for dates…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/09/22 04:27 PM
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I got a 5 year old Audi that was a lease in near perfect condition. The last 'owner" put very few miles on it and wanted the latest model so a 1/3 discount was great for me. Leo perhaps should be considered doing a public service in that instead of these women going out to the clubs and upping their body counts into the triple digits, he keeps them off the streets and in comfort and then ready to "settle down" while they are just slightly off peak.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/09/22 04:16 PM
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Another way of looking at it is that growth is painful and people can't wait to finish "school" and get on with living life. I felt the same way in that I was excited to finally get into work instead of just filling out tests and homework assignments and then later in life, I became a bureaucrat and I'm happy fill out paperwork to earn a living. When one feels they've "made it" and don't have to answer to parents and teachers anymore is when it's highly tempting to stop development. It's the the…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/09/22 04:09 PM
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Not that I'd help a woman in this situation, but if she was smart, she would act differently. Women have been taught that their demands are attractive to men because it makes her more "valuable". This is the message given to them by other women, of course, and "worked" for them in their early 20's when they were in high demand and childless because they didn't need to have brains to get men. A SMART single mother in this situation, even if she had these demands, would keep them to herself (like …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/09/22 03:34 AM
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I don't think this post will stay up, but I'll answer the title question: I think the no-link rules are to prevent traceback to this page as well as to prevent accusations of "brigading".
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/08/22 04:43 PM
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In the context of this discussion, there's the "formative years" for a variety of things including religion, politics, and even sexual preferences and demands. Young children imprint on their parents but when they become teenagers, the see there's a HUGE universe out there (well, at least compared to their home) and they then imprint on that dynamic. Most women "mature" earlier than men which also means that women have less TIME to mature and therefore less resources to do so more comprehensivel…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/08/22 03:40 PM
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I just had an interesting thought (ok, I know I'm setting expectations here!) She actually seems like she's working class and never was that hot but in her youth, she lived a hard life and now she's living on her own barely able to afford a carton of cigs every week. I knew a lot of working class women like this back in my neighborhood 40 years ago that were friends of my mother. But... she blows any compassion I have towards her with this entitlement attitude. Working class women such as this i…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/08/22 02:56 AM
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I'm chuckling because back in the dark ages, 30 years ago, I went on lunch dates with a dating agency with 30 year old biological clock tickers. This was pre-internet (well, most people didn't know how to use it.) The aging career women showed up and had sourpuss looks on their faces when they saw I wasn't alpha bucks. So, I'd be chatty and having fun and explaining my own worldview to them (and of course listening to theirs) and they'd be passive most of the time. They wanted to be entertained …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/08/22 11:42 PM
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A (minor) quibble and something to restore power to men (not shame, but offer power) is that women are SEXUAL selectors but not necessarily RELATIONSHIP selectors. Granted, every interaction we have with fellow human beings is a relationship but in the popular meaning of the term, an in-depth emotional connection is something not even women can unilaterally demand from men, particularly after she provides sex to him. After a man has sex, her notch count goes up by 1 (weakening her social status)…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/08/22 11:00 PM
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Could you go into detail as to "the train wreck?" No brigading so I don't need to see the source material. Just curious as to what happened.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/07/22 12:17 AM
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"cherry picking" traditionalism and feminism is 'feminist' values. In the movie Diner, set back in the 1950's, the men back then were griping that things were getting bad. Dating (not courtship) is sort of like the Olympics: Every year, the goalposts are moved, the bar raised, and the race time shortened.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/07/22 11:54 AM
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It's amazing this statistic isn't openly challenged. It's a misquote in that the 75 cents isn't for "equal" work but rather a per capita earnings of men and women including doctors, housewives, etc. Studies taking all this into account drop it down to a few cents which is within the margin of error. Next, when the Biden administration posted a graphic showing a white male dollar, then asian woman, etc. Asian men were quietly left out. Guess why? Yep, they earn the most. That would be inconvenien…
/r/PussyPassDenied08/07/22 12:23 AM
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Feel free. In real life, I had a woman tell me that she said that she supported "other women's choice" in choosing normal, average men but she wanted to choose the alpha bucks because that's what SHE wanted and feminism is about "choices". Another analogy they remind me of is Rain Man where the autistic character thinks everything costs "100 dollars". They simply don't understand basic economics and competition.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/07/22 02:51 AM
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There's a classic scene in "Up in the Air" where the young woman is happy about her feminist choices but laments the fallout: That choice A as you mention is increasingly difficult. A society that used to "nurture" young men to be providers and yes, discriminate (lightly) against women in the workplace, effectively provided young women with successful husbands they desired. The dream of "choosing" to ho' and ride the CC until their 30's and then marry alpha or beta bucks is possible, but it's li…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/07/22 06:11 PM
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You'd be surprised. My wife has a friend we refer to as "Barbie" and she's a super hot single mother of two girls in a pretty good age range (7 and 12 years old). So they are school year age, both reasonably well behaved. In theory, she could get literally a thousand men, a sausage factory AND warehouse, if she was to go on a dating app but she doesn't. I suspect she probably will filter out the hot guys and then get disappointed when they want her for a fling and then she filters out the normal…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/07/22 11:19 PM
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There's a term for it in psychology: "Narcissistic rage". It's the occasional outburst of fear and anger when an entitlement seeker is confronted and sees a possibility of their reality bubble imploding at some time in the future. In this particular case, such as the plain-looking Ukrainian woman getting called out for her snarky attitude, men did eventually do what was needed.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/07/22 11:13 PM
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In answer to your general question: Feminism was defined not JUST as a movement based upon gender equality, but as one that considers women historically disenfranchised so "equality" means special privileges for women to make things "equal." These mental gymnastics lead to an expectation of entitlement and resentment when the "oppressor" doesn't provide them with what they demand. Feminism defining itself as equality as literally what women want (hence the term "femin" defines "equality" and "fa…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/07/22 05:48 PM
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Great story. I wondered when I got out of my "nerd" phrase how lucky I was, in a sense, that women wouldn't give me the time of day because back then, I'd have married ANYONE. I went on a date with a plump gal that worked at the ice cream shop and she treated me with disdain. After a decade or so, I was a more rounded person and had options. Then I settled down and got married have a child. There's a saying that youth is wasted on the young or that young people just don't know what to do with th…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/07/22 12:46 AM
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In answer to your question, a primary tenet to dating game is that standards are associated with quality. For example: A woman who sleeps around a lot, or is 'easy', is looked down upon by many here as 'second hand goods' and unlikely to pair bond. So a woman may think: "Well, if I sleep around a lot, but with chads, then I have standards! So it's not like I'm easy!" There's a logic to it. Men use 'screening' and 'standards' to define frame and increase value to women. If she sees that a man pre…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/06/22 05:38 PM
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Sad story. A friend of mine married a bar girl he knocked up and later when he asked her to clean up her act (cut down on the drinking) she tried to divorce him and take his stuff, but he lawyered up and she didn't get anything. She was bitter and nasty about it and took it out on the girls alienating them from the father. I saw a facebook post by his relative with the 23 year old daughter. She had a STEM degree and was starting work at NASA and I showed the photo to an Asian friend of mine and …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/06/22 02:03 AM
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I'm stealing this... Brilliant.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/06/22 01:56 AM
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That beings on a motivational poster!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/06/22 03:59 AM
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Agreed. It belongs probably on Where All The Good Men Are. But let's try to get this back on topic. I'm curious: In the states, it's a shit show for men in our 20's with women having outrageous standards while in their 30's and 40's, the tables turn. Is there a period for Japanese women in their 30's and 40's where they get baby rabies and become leftover women?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/06/22 12:00 AM
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I did and commented there.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/06/22 04:56 PM
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Cool idea. I remember a similar story from the early 1990's on the early internet: A (young,single,childless) woman posted that she went out on a "perfect" date with a guy: he took her to an expensive restaurant, held her chair, the works. The dinner check comes and he whips out a fancy charge card and it comes back declined. He says he thinks it may be an issue with his bank, and he'll call them tomorrow but asks her to loan him the money and he'll pay her back in the morning. What can she do? …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/05/22 11:30 PM
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It's my theory that modern women's "family" is their social circle and this matters to them more than any new man. Think about it: They've known some of these friends their whole lives and formed deep emotional bonds with them. We frown upon shaming fellow men here (great rule!) but women do this to each other CONTINUOUSLY. Women live in a universe of shame: They shame each other and men. Men invest in relationships with women before they happen including the approach and building rapport. Women…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/05/22 11:17 PM
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I went to my 25th high school reunion and it was nice. Most of those who showed up had something going on because the losers didn't want to show their faces. Most of the girls were still pretty, at least to me, and I thought about something I went to teach my daughter: The value of long term, sincere friendships and marriage means a lot because it's like a time machine. When I look at my wife, I imagine her in her youth just as when I look in the mirror, I try to see my younger self. People who'…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/05/22 07:18 PM
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Aside from extreme cases, there need not be incels. With someone like this out there, any nerd with a nice suit, an Applebee's gift card, and the most basic game can get laid with an added bonus: zero fear of baby trap.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/05/22 05:33 PM
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30 years ago, I was considering one of the leftover career women in their early 30's. Back then, their body counts were low (I call them "corporate nuns") and aside from their snotty attitudes, they weren't the train wrecks featured here. Perhaps, I thought, they wouldn't make bad wives similar to finding an open box stereo after Christmas at BestBuy. Yet, there seem to be many profiles on here of delusional single moms in their 40's with toddlers implying that these women did find someone willi…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/05/22 05:27 PM
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I enjoyed reading this. I'm 56 years old and went through my 20's and I felt exactly this way. I think the article was a bit "moralizing" (rule 2), but I liked it so I'll make this observation in response: I think that many young people, "on average", think this way, or at least believe they do. It's the theme of The Dead Poet's Society, superhero films, and pretty much much fiction for men (I know, rule 6, but I want to point out this is a cultural theme.) Red Pill thinking is in many ways a re…
/r/TheRedPill03/05/22 02:27 AM
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That's a good point and I often marvel at our lives compared to our ancestors, most of mine who were probably peasants living in a hut but at least the woman respected him. Short, nasty, brutal lives. So instead of being a peasant to a lord with a 40 year lifespan, what many men go through is being a peasant to their woman for the privilege of reproducing. I have a lot of friends who took that route similar to fish swimming upstream to spawn and die: They married young, and stupid and even now, …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/05/22 12:32 PM
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Thank you. I have a plan for this in that I'm keeping her ahead of her peers to qualify for the advanced program in the local schools so she's with a better class of student. I also monitor her lessons and discuss with her what the schools are teaching, but in a gentle way. Finally, we have weekend and summer Russian/Ukrainian school and a strong Slavic community as well as spend a considerable amount of time abroad. I know people who simply "outsourced" their child's education and upbringing to…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/05/22 03:27 AM
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In answer to your last question, I have a 6 year old girl I'm dealing with. When she throws a tantrum, she's still super cute and THAT is a problem. If she was a boy, nobody would have any of it. But when I try to time her out, my wife intervenes. I remember her that she'll be a teenager in a mere 7 years. When my wife disciplines her, it's erratic. She either is super sweet (like with a baby) or she loses it altogether. A (based) man is what raises wholesome women. But 1/2 of children today are…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/05/22 03:05 AM
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Interesting perspective. There were different ways that it seems to have worked out based upon when my parents got married (1960). People got married younger back then, average age 23 for the man. While condoms were available during the 1920's onward, pre-marital sex was still largely rare because of the risk of accidental pregnancy and, well, common sense (men didn't wife up ho's). The concept of the modern-traditional dinner date: He asks her out, buys her food, takes her to his "bachelor pad"…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/05/22 09:04 PM
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Here's my theory as to why feminists fought for abortion PARTICULARLY since the conservative right fought hard against it: It allowed single mothers to be respectable. Since they have the option, in the view of churches and the conservatives, to get an abortion then those who want abortion prohibited cannot shame single mothers for fear they'd appear to be hypocrites. This woman can say "Well, at least I didn't get an abortion." She might even virtue signal as some kind of heroine for keeping th…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/05/22 08:47 PM
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Perhaps what's going on with that is that women like to say things they don't mean such as "I'm attracted to nice guys" and some-such. Whether it's a shit test, a fantasy world, or scoring cool points with the chick hivemind, much of what a woman thinks has little to do with reality particularly once men are in the picture. Perhaps it's because men, as protectors, are expected to treat women in the same category as children so the children are protected from harm and worry with the man responsib…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/05/22 07:18 PM
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I have an answer to your question. There are men called "incels". These men believe they cannot get laid but yet, that simply isn't true. Just as inspins have options (to perhaps marry someone less than a chad doctor), there are options for most any men to get laid (some of which I have employed): 1) Single mothers (buy them Applebees, wear a nice suit, and say you have a job and get horizontal!) 2) MILFs. Don't knock 'em till you've tried them. 3) Professional services. There are guys out there…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/05/22 03:08 AM
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Let's review what 'falling in love" means to women: They literally sit there and a party clown entertains them, feeds them, and then effs them. That's the show young, attractive women can demand from interested men. We marvel at Academy Award level acting, but the level of acting men are expected to put on today to score women through cold and warm approaches beats it hands down since at least with movies, you KNOW they're acting. To say that women date on "easy mode" is sort of like watching ga…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/05/22 03:02 AM
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You've just dated yourself. Don't forget to get a colonoscopy. I just got through this book recently about Ma Bell. A wild read: "The Idea Factory: Bell Labs and the Great Age of American Innovation"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/05/22 02:53 AM
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Regarding women waiting at the end to fuck the winner. About 16 years ago, in an ancient discussion forum a middle aged woman was mocking me for not owning a house and choosing to rent. (I was concerned about the housing bubble.) Now she hadn't bought her own home (her professor hubby did) but she chuckled "You have no equity! What woman would want you? Tee hee!" I pointed out to her that I had liquid investments totaling $200,000, just none in real estate. I also remarked I had gotten out of si…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/04/22 11:18 PM
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According to statistics, it's actually <3.8%.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/04/22 02:14 PM
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A dream profile I'd love to see someone here attempt (particularly if they've got chad looks/income to see how far we can push their chad chasing). Photo pics must contain at least one of the following: 1) Hold a big fish. 2) NASCAR baseball cap. 3) Pic holding up the bloodied head of a dead mammal: Bear, deer, wolf... 4) Ballgame photo in the stands of a MINOR league baseball team. 5) Holding a beer, cheap domestic, not craft. My wife was disgusted by my Sears LED watch from 1975. I get complim…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/04/22 02:23 AM
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I think what offends the women is that it breaks the "gentleman" image of a well dressed man spending money in a public place to serve them food as compared to a man catching food that the woman is presumably supposed to cook. I'm thinking it would be total fun for someone to post ALL photos of their kills: The fish, deer, rabbits and the tagline: "I kill it, you cook it".
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/04/22 06:00 PM
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My father loved to fish, RIP. I enjoy it as well but I have my own fish that have characteristics like pets (My beta fighter has quite a personality and recognizes me.) Nonetheless, I view wild animals one eats to be wholesome as compared to trapping them on a farm.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/04/22 05:23 PM
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Perhaps it will happen the way you say, but it's just as likely that since he cried for 3 days he'll wind up reconciling with her which isn't much worse than what you propose which is getting his heart broken a few more times and then getting a woman with perhaps a body count only half of hers. I'm married. I've fought with my wife and... worked it out. We share a daughter. I'd rather find a way to work it out with her and I don't regret the decision. The fact my wife worked things out with me i…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/04/22 11:00 PM
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I think this is how their minds work: They think that if they quickly sleep with a guy, including one she really likes, then he won't respect her. He'll label her a slut, even if he otherwise likes her, (similar to) but not exactly how women friendzone "nice guys". She might even want to sleep with him but she's worried she'll lose him. Her logic is that she sleeps with hot guys that she doesn't have emotional attachment to because she doesn't mind them not calling her in the morning. What irks …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/04/22 07:15 PM
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This is an extreme example, but the "real man" trope back in the 90's essentially had men needing to be the provider, to pass a dozen shit tests to date her, and then to do all the cooking and cleaning to boot and THEN she MIGHT not divorce rape him. These women still largely looked feminine back then. A "real man" by modern standards would need to be from the planet Krypton with magic crystals to build all the stuff she demands (I chuckled at the plot holes of these superheroes who led "normal"…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/04/22 05:22 PM
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Looking at this train wreck, I remember 35 years ago when I was 20 and I was a snot nosed kid. A good kid at heart, but I had some growing to do to be a father. Perhaps it was good that the women were snubbing me. In about 5 years, I was a decent person. 5 years after that, I was the kind of person that's proud to be a father. For men, we have to earn a literal living. But for women such as this, they breathe and barely know how to use the bathroom. There's no restraints on them having a child a…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/04/22 04:57 PM
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I thought that too. This woman from the photo looks like a 40 year old whose led a hard life.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/04/22 04:42 PM
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Technically, she's a lying slut. There's a key difference in that lying whores are out to take a man's money. Certainly that's an option for him, but he better be prepared for it. The singles market is full of mostly lying whores, sluts, and single mothers after age 25. To deal with them, he'll need stone balls and that will take time, hard work, and pain and from what the story sounds like, he's starting from rock bottom. We talk here how the supply of chads dries up for women when they hit the…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/04/22 03:28 PM
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I thought about this as well. Now he's not only cuckolded, in front of his religious family, but he also looks like a pussy. He also made the mistake of asking her if she was a virgin encouraging her to lie. "Have these shoes ever been worn? They're worth more if they weren't tried on." "Answer: Yes!" He should have said "Yeah, I have friends who've slept around but come to the lord. It's no big deal. What do you think?" The challenge is this: If the guy divorces her then he's back out on the da…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/04/22 02:22 AM
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I like this, but with one caveat: having been married for 18 years, a word of advice in that women don't respond to the same incentives as an employee/employer business relationship. They are mired in "feelings". Marriage "game" is very different than regular PUA game, but it's there. Thanks to sex no longer being a factor (she can't call me an incel if I call her bluff), there's no much else in their tool box to hurl at me other than trashing the relationship and worsening their situation. As t…
/r/TheRedPill25/04/22 10:36 PM
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That's an interesting expression and one that illustrates why trying to run business or personal life like sports can be dangerous. I've seen a LOT of bad ideas in business from managers who thought they could run a division like a sports team. In sports, there's (often) no harm to making as many shots as you like when nothing else is a factor. For example, basketball: You make a shot and it misses so no harm, yes? Well, what if you had passed the ball to someone closer to the net and HE makes t…
/r/TheRedPill25/04/22 10:03 PM
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In terms of "ancient times", that would be pre-civilization or what I refer to as "rutting": When women in the savannah or forest just had sex with the nearest available man and had the child on her own. After that, the Patriarchy picked women's mates since even in nomadic cultures women required the warrior and provider class of men to provide and support them and their offspring. Pre-marital sex, so to speak, is a recent thing since the advent of the pill which gave men a false sense of securi…
/r/TheRedPill25/04/22 09:51 PM
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Here's the funny part: Wait until a "country guy" asks her to pay her own way on a date. :-) That's why she's engaging in the "real man" shaming language: She makes demands for him to take care of her (and some other man's brood) not because she "needs" him, but a "REAL country guy" would consider it his pleasure in doing so. In their universe, (real) men should exist solely to please them. She doesn't HAVE to take care of herself, since she's royalty, but she gets credit for it anyway as if tha…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/04/22 01:47 PM
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First off, my apologies for not answering your question. I got all caught up in the moment. My wife's friend is referring to the current "situation" in the states at least. Her friend is about 45 and so her dating pool consists of men in their 40's and beyond and those guys if they survived that long know what a barracuda such as her is up to. That being said, she does have useful advice at times. I refer to her as "akula." Anyhoo, I think the logic is for the women that if the man goes through …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/04/22 02:49 AM
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I agree that the whole purpose of their 'strategy' is to to get their narrative reaffirmed. The narrative, and acceptance by their feminine hivemind, matters more than anything: Their kid(s), future happiness, etc. As the line goes on Pretty Woman: They want "the fairy tale." I fret that they might just develop enough cunning, or at least desperation, to develop a modicum of game. Fortunately, for us, most of their game, heck the primary purpose of it, is to trash relationships the microsecond t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/04/22 11:29 PM
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"it wouldn't exactly be his biological child" "Wouldn't we want our child to be?" The hamster wheel is in motion. She's rationalizing this by trying to weasel away that it's not biologically his ("exactly" "our") If she doesn't want his dirty genes in the gene pool. then adopt a child outright. I have friends who did this because the wife was too old. My wife implored them to adopt a gifted Ukrainian child out of an orphanage who would be happy to have American parents. See how SHE likes raising…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/04/22 01:19 AM
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I read that a study was done to see if men could pick up the "signals" that women send out reliably of interest and then asking women THEMSELVES if they could tell, from seeing other women, if those women were reliably expressing interest in other men or not. It turns out women were no better at it than the men are. The reason that flirting is ambiguous is precisely for a power trip: With plausible deniability, the woman can increase her demands for the man's prospective interest. Even when men …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/04/22 09:26 PM
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I had conversations about this back in the 90's where a friend of mine observed that men who wanted to wait until their 30's for women to "settle down" were just going to get other men's used up leftovers. Nonetheless, women in other cultures aren't (as) bad. They referred to American women, and I remember this term, as "party girls." "Party girls" go to work (for her own money to raise her demands on men or party) and aside from that, party. That's why we see "Neflix/foodie/travel" in so many o…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/04/22 03:40 PM
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Their logic, and I'm not validating it (just explaining it), is that 'real" men or the men they "care about", ENJOY being good beta providers and like taking it slow, paying for dates, and dealing with her problems and baggage and, after all, there are men out there who think like this as well. As little as 30 years ago, paying for tail to make the tail seem "real" was normal. IMO, it was artificial in that a century before then, such courtship and demands of men didn't exist because there was n…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/04/22 03:23 PM
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I'm reminded of times I was out of work between jobs. I got a severance and unemployment in these cases so I took advantage of it. I traveled, spent time with my toddler daughter, or just relaxed and enjoyed the beach and watching movies. I did the math and over the years, I think I've spent a good 4 years of time between work over the past 30 years. I wouldn't give it up for the world. In relevance to what you said, I found getting back to work to be a slight challenge. When I finally landed a …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/04/22 03:18 PM
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Great analysis! I would only add my senior observations that the FDS brand appears to be a rebranding of The Rules and general white female, ("Karen"), entitlement thinking of the 1970's and 1980's with a particular twist for the demographics you list above. Back then, "Karens" leveraged their high SMV and entitlement attitude to marry a Beta Bux as quickly as possible via denying him sex and extracting token gifts from him to rope him into emotional and financial commitment. This worked because…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/04/22 02:25 PM
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What FDS says is even more extraordinary: It claims that the less amount of effort they make, the more desirable they are because they have "standards." The logic goes: "If I'm a frigid golddigger, that means I'm not a slut and HVM men don't want sluts!" Simply NOT being (one) awful thing doesn't make them attractive for long term relationships with men who have the right to have standards. This concept is as unthinkable and incomprehensible to them as much as, say, one of us wanting to get all …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/04/22 02:06 AM
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I agree. Someone suggested it should be banned but rather the opposite: It's gold for men to scope out what such women think and be able to spot patterns and also allows such women to sabotage each other. Quite frankly, their advice on how to exploit men and be gold diggers stinks. I don't want to say how (just in case any of them are listening) but they're so entitled that they can't figure it out on their own and that's a good thing. And yeah, a few of them do wander around in our forums from …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/04/22 12:47 AM
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Consider that before women's liberation and modern dating, women had to get married quickly and keep marriages going for their own survival and self interest so they were the ones saddled with managing relationships and figuring out ways to talk to men and size them up for their long term value. "Boys" aren't born men and to develop this "strength" you refer to during what can be considered the golden era of "traditional" dating (1900 to 1970), society had to provide young "weak" men with tolera…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/04/22 03:50 PM
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I can remember a girl saying this 33 years ago almost as if yesterday: "Men have it easy because they're allowed to ask women out but us women have to sit and wait for the man we want to ask us out!"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/04/22 01:26 PM
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If they were married for at least 10 years, they'd qualify for half his social security. Not a lot of money but still. It's amusing that things are so bad that so many women can't hold a man for that long.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/04/22 07:36 PM
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The best comment is last...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/04/22 03:32 PM
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I banged a MILF when I was 30 and she was 20 years older. I didn't know it at the time, but this was a good move to move me ahead in my development. I loved her and if she had brains, she'd have kept me around but she blew it which I'm eternally grateful for. She had a darn good run and was hot even at the age of 50 and we broke up about 3 years later. I met my future wife about 3 years after that. I referred the ex to a friend who had legal needs (she's a good attorney) and I was curious and he…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/04/22 03:28 PM
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Women marry men thinking she can change him. Men marry women thinking the women will never change. My own has been tough for the past 18 years, but she has learned albeit VERY slowly. I can only imagine that without my strong input and feedback, she'd be insufferable. Men mature to figure out how to live our lives more easily. Women mature to figure out more things to gripe about and be miserable (because they're good at it.) My favorite line from Dirty Rotten Scoundrels: Lawrence Jamieson: Fred…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/04/22 03:16 PM
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"Waiting for someone" This is perhaps the most cherished value that women have for beta males and the first one they'll surrender when chad walks into the room. He's gotta read her "signals", say the correct "honest" things that make her feel comfortable, and finally give her some "tingles" and then he gets the privilege of nookie. I'm reminded of Black Friday: If you're poor enough, then sitting in line for a night and morning in freezing weather to try to score a half price TV is worth it. Now…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/04/22 01:44 PM
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Cool observation. It didn't occur to me, despite years of studying women, that they would try this trick on men.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/04/22 12:32 PM
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I didn't say anything which I think is the appropriate comment. It was meant to get a rise out of me (pun not intended) so I didn't let it.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/04/22 12:26 PM
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Let's review what "feminine" (used to) mean: submissive, "nice", respectful of men. She CLAIMS to be feminine but after the 3rd item in her list, everything else is demands and "real man" shaming ploys. She's "nice" when you're paying for stuff (which is progress, I suppose, from many women who are not nice even as the man is paying.) That profile photo looks to be from Y2K.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/04/22 08:32 PM
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That's how Steve Harvey makes millions of dollars a year. Look up some of his advice to women videos. The women don't WANT useful advise. "Hey Steve: The Questions You Don’t Ask" She says "Hey Steve, I'm a young professional girl" and she looks older than my grandmother and she tells him she's a "strong woman" who likes to complain but she can't find a good man. So Steve tells her how wonderful and pretty she is and she needs to focus on herself more. This is ok, I think, for a 3 year old but ev…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/04/22 07:55 PM
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Marital moment for your amusement. Married for 18 wonderful^H^H^H^H^H^Hgood years. We have a 5 year old girl and differ on discipline strategies and came to a head. I was losing my temper after hours of provocation before the Easter Holiday and gave the child a (good) telling off (in a gentle way) but my wife lost it and the girl instantly behaved herself because she saw mommy and daddy fighting and loves us. So my wife angrily comes over a few hours later and says that I pay the bills but other…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/04/22 07:36 PM
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If you want a laugh, youtube search "father swipes for daughter". Let's remind ourselves that the current social crisis we live in began with fathers who raised daughters to think this mess was ok. Perhaps not at this level, but it got started somewhere.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/04/22 02:19 PM
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It's an old-school trait to understand our own mortality: We're going to have a peak, even if at least at one thing such as an athlete who goes to college on a football scholarship, gets into the NFL, and then later in life actually needs to go to work with the college degree he got. I love that scene in Pulp Fiction where Butch is told condescendingly to accept that he should throw the fight because he's past his prime. This is the "man up" "tough love" us men get from an early age. On the othe…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/04/22 10:34 PM
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There are men like this. From "Glory Days" by Bruce Springsteen: I had a friend was a big baseball player Back in high school He could throw that speedball by you Make you look like a fool, boy Saw him the other night at this roadside bar I was walking in, he was walking out We went back inside, sat down, had a few drinks But all he kept talking about was Glory days, well they'll pass you by Glory days, in the wink of a young girl's eye Glory days, glory days Well, there's a girl that lives up t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/04/22 09:56 PM
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What's funny is that their desire for a HVM is secondary to their "strategy" to stick it out for free meals, the 'experience' of being courted, and such. I married my wife after accepting that courtship was going to be a chore. Once I accepted that, whether in the form of game, or just eating the shit sandwich, my options expanded. I thought about things long term. Since these women are so rigid in their demands of men up front, like you said as if they were still 22 years old in their prime, th…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/04/22 10:20 PM
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Women-logic is this: As long as they're complaining, they haven't "given up" on men. They just want men to stop being "bad" and start being "good" and they're providing helpful feedback. (note: This is their thinking, I'm not condoning it.) The more they complain or make demands of him, this also implies that the more HE owes HER so she needn't do anything than just "be herself" which is doing as she pleases and thinking, like my cat dropping off a dead chipmunk at my feet, I should be grateful.…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/04/22 04:34 PM
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Riddle me this, riddle me that: I am at the point in my life that I don't want to advise these types of women because they're hypergamous entitlement queens. Why should I want these women to succeed and validate their selfish mindset to encourage other women to do the same? It amused me when I was young how these women "played themselves" and revealed their intentions and attitudes towards men where, if I was a bit more naive, I'd have been easily snared. The FDS harpies "strategy" is to make th…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/04/22 04:18 PM
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This whole concept can be summed up as "Self confident, but sensitive".
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/04/22 03:45 PM
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The RomComs even going back to the 1920's portrayed romance as this magical thing that required absolutely no effort and from the young, high SMV woman's point of view, this appeared reasonable. If you want to gag, youtube "500 Days of Summer - Tom and Summer on a Bench" In their view, good relationships and love is like falling off of a log: They just breathe and perfect romances fall in their lap, but in nature, it doesn't work that way. In some ways, the hard romances are more, IMO, romantic.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/04/22 12:08 AM
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I remember almost as if it was yesterday, 30 years ago in the dawn of the internet, a woman on a discussion forum asking me "Why do you want to date women? You don't seem to like them very much." and thinking she had a point. Even back then, the majority of single women where I lived were literally insufferable. I took her observation to heart and asked myself: If I didn't want to have sex with these women, would I even want to be around them? My friends (most of whom are now divorced) disagreed…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/04/22 03:31 PM
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I think it probably backfires most of the time as some kind of shit-test for the daughter's betas. If the father "lays down the law", she can hardly wait for Tyrone to show he's a "bad boy" and help her rebel against daddy. That being said, I'm enjoying his book and he goes later into detail that his prim and proper daughter brought home a true bad boy to shit test him covered with tats and stuff. He thought about telling her off but instead said: "I raised you to make good decisions and if this…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/04/22 07:45 PM
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So I suppose messaging her if she's into a threesome with her and the baby daddy wouldn't go over too well?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/04/22 07:41 PM
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Due to culture and biology, perhaps the one most important trait young, eligible women desire in men isn't looks or money, but him making the approach. Roll that around in your mind for a moment. So women who approach you, even though you're successful and good looking, are usually damaged or vulnerable in some way and they're aware of it at some level. Women routinely shame other women by asking her “how did you two meet?” They view it as supremely empowering to have a man do the classical appr…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/04/22 03:41 PM
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Not that I know such a guy (wink), but there are elevator shoes to add 4 inches to a guy's height. This takes a 5'7" guy up to the height range she demands. Is that faking it? Yeah, but I'm sure she doesn't look the way she does above without makeup and "spanx". When I get a photo taken, I take a deep breath. If women can wear makeup on their dating profiles and wear it on dates (and even expect men to pay for dates for all it takes to make her look pretty "for him") can men demand they pay for …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/04/22 02:53 AM
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Geek idea: Multiple by 4 divide by 10. Fudge factor down by about 1.5% So for 180cm <= 720 / 10 in <= 72 in 1.5 percent of that, is close to 1. So about 5' 11" Whole number fractions are easier to do in your head.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/04/22 02:38 AM
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Thanks for that URL. Seems like an interesting site.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/04/22 03:38 PM
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I came of age in the 1980's which was an interesting pivot in western history. The cold war was coming to an end, but there were fundamental, fatal flaws in western culture. Corporate America was adopting the concept of "stacked ranking" which is based upon working employees to death and swapping them out for fresh "units". Companies that did this were profitable but soon found as the practice became standard that there was a labor shortage. At the same time, modern women's equality and hypergam…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/04/22 03:22 PM
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That's the key. There are lots of decent guys out there willing to start a family with a woman with a body count. By "decent" I mean OK looking or even higher, reliable, and kind hearted. But he may not want to live up to the traditionalist provider role. Feminism argued that once women were liberated and given high paying jobs and the ability to sleep around like men do, they would stop making sexist demands of men but we see that's almost always not the case. If she wants a man whose not going…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/04/22 03:17 PM
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I forget who did this on standup, but he joked that a guy had to watch out for women who had just moved into town because they might be trying to escape their past history and make a fresh start. Sort of like a car with a scratched out VIN number. Personally, I did this for myself in that my childhood wasn't ideal and I wanted a fresh start and did just that. It took a decade, but I became the kind of person I wanted to be and that a woman would want to marry and start a family with. It can be p…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/04/22 03:12 PM
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Another way of putting it is how hypergamy works. If someone, say, has a car and apartment, they view that as a major accomplishment because they would insist upon a man having a car and apartment. Or better yet, a NICER car and apartment than her own. But... if she didn't have a car and apartment, she wouldn't regard herself as less worthy of a man who did. It's like when a woman lists her height in her profile: She's signaling that this makes her worthy of someone that height or more. What wil…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/04/22 03:06 PM
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The Like Switch Game, Day Bang, Lady (by Roosh) What Everybody is Saying I've read more decades ago including the Dale Carnage classic "How to win friends and influence people" but note that it's outdated in regards to our modern society. People were more innocent when the book was written. I have a practice that I read a book, ruminate on it for a good month or so, and then give it to a friend so I don't have the titles on hand. Other tips I got from a former Russian military officer was to con…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/04/22 03:39 PM
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She pretended to be a bar hookup and the guys told him after. Yeah, the $100 was overseas at the time, probably more now.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/04/22 03:11 PM
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My way of handling any such remarks from women (before I got married) was to say I was never an incel. I could, and did, get "professional services" which resolved the problem. If I got a "well, you're a whore monger then!" jab, I'd reply: "What commodity was exchanged for 'the world's oldest profession' and how is that UNLIKE a dinner date?" I got hostility from a relative when I was casually discussing this at dinner with his wife present and I sensed his (perceived) manhood was at stake so I …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/04/22 11:55 PM
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Those lesbians often have at least (some) sympathy and empathy with what men go through from the "fem" lesbians such as the games, golddigging, etc.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/04/22 11:42 PM
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Roosh has a phobia against sex workers or even taking a dump (number 2) at a public restroom which I found rather quirky. He'd spend hundreds of dollars on dates, weeks of time attention validating women, rather than just paying $100 for top shelf tail that a typical American man would die for. A guy I knew back 35 years ago refused to sleep with a prostitute under any circumstances so his friends bought one for him but told her to keep quiet about it. The standards women had for dating 50 years…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/04/22 11:29 PM
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I chuckled when you said, quote, "chose to close herself off and be so incredibly passive in her own life as to render herself virtually unavailable" Indeed, while society mocks incel males as sub-human because they lack extreme good looks or exceptional social skills for conventional dating, such women are femcels because they lack ANY social graces whatsoever. If this former girlfriend of mine was a man, I'd regard her socio-sexual behavior as low level "rainman" autistic (without the superhum…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/04/22 10:56 PM
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Back in the day, I simply told them I used prostitutes. They'd get this shocked look on their face as if I had broken a major taboo. I pointed out that paying for dates was the oldest form of commerce "the oldest profession." I'm married for 18 years and, sometimes I (discreetly) pull that card out. If men can pay for sex, then there is zero hold a woman can have on us emotionally. By the same token, back 30 years ago, I refused to pay for dates (for a time) because I felt that was a form of pro…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/04/22 03:36 AM
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(very) minor quibble. Consider this: My first full sexual encounter was with a 31 year old virgin who was otherwise quite attractive. So why? Imagine the show "naked and afraid" (quite a bit of fun) where folks "rough it". No take out food, no supermarkets, etc. Raw survival. Some people if they were to just have to rough it, a bit, would starve to death because they couldn't figure out how to open a can of peas or make pasta. Yes, I've known women who didn't know how to boil pasta. No exaggerat…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/04/22 03:30 AM
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Although tangentially related, a story I'd like to share. One of the bridesmaids at my wedding is from East Germany during WWII and her brother died in Stalingrad (on the German side). She's 91 and with her husband deceased, I called to say hello and she simply said "I'm 91 and done everything I want. I can't go anywhere. I'm ready to die." I asked her if she wouldn't mind killing some Russians in Ukraine and she cheered up a little "OK. Let me know." I don't think she'd be of much use with the …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/04/22 02:59 AM
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I think it may have been the feral cats. After just a bit of googling, I found "Would your cat eat you? Science says yes, but it’s nothing personal." It documents an experiment that showed the feral cats ate corpses that were even as much as a month old. So yes, it's possible that my housecat would feel bad but probably eat me under the correct conditions (and that's ok, I intend to be cremated anyway, bon appetit!) but unlikely perhaps because housecats are spoiled a bit. My own cats were fussy…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/04/22 08:40 PM
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It's good to be in that position where you have enough options you can hold women accountable to the modern feminist demands of Yes Means Yes. In my case, I had standards and it meant getting laid a lot less.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/04/22 02:37 PM
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If you google it, you'll find numerous articles of college women griping about the high female:male ratios on some campuses even as those schools continue their "affirmative action" programs for women. Eat cake, have it too.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/04/22 02:07 AM
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Foreign women refer to American women as "party girls." In more traditional societies, women have hobbies too including crocheting, painting, piano, gardening, or even reading. Reading, as a literacy, takes effort particularly to finish a novel.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/04/22 01:37 AM
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Far out. "Better part of a week." As I said, my cat doesn't even finish her dry food in that time frame. Those must have been voracious cats! I'd love a cite if you can find one. Please message it to me if it can't be posted.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/04/22 01:34 AM
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The "Know the difference, please" snide remark at the bottom is the clincher. Nobody else commented about it and I think it stands out as special. Hypergamy is bad enough, but waving it around should send a red flag to men because it shows exceptional entitlement. If she emphasizes that she's materialist, whose to say she won't divorce rape you at the first opportunity? If she outpaces you in her career, she could toss you out. Same with the household chores thing: You better bring as much home …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/03/22 11:15 PM
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Tell us old folks what campus life is like now. Even 35 years ago, it was feminist dominated with a relatively even male:female ratio although that didn't help matters much. But now, I imagine it's a totally different universe. Perhaps for snot nosed undergrads, your looks and access to frat beer parties is the best asset but I wonder that with so many women with (often useless) GRAD degrees, is it poosy paradise for men who are in GRAD programs? Can a normal guy, or even a shortie, score if he'…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/03/22 11:07 PM
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I'm glad I'm not in this game, but if I was I'd have fun. I'd send her this as my greeting: Ephesians 5:22-33
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/03/22 10:50 PM
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It occurred to me if a woman was wanting to filter out the mass right swipers and have fun, she could list a truly exotic hobby such as numismatics and see how many mention that in their responses.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/03/22 10:48 PM
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College campuses are strange places. At the agricultural/engineering university I attended, the women all had attitudes even the gals who worked retail on campus. I asked out a woman who was a bit frumpy and she had an attitude. That was 35 years ago. Things may have changed in many ways in that now that "girl power" has gotten more women into master's degree programs, there's a much higher ratio of these hypergamous women to the men available that fit their attractiveness demands. Nonetheless, …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/03/22 10:44 PM
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I've had fun discussions online about this where an EMT told me that he had witnessed folks whose corpses had been eaten by their pets but, key here, those houses included dogs. It's my opinion, as a cat owner, that cats are fussy about food and my cat would rather starve than eat from a can of cat food that's sat in the fridge more than a day. With a supply of dry food sufficient to last her for nearly a week, my corpse would be inedible to her. On the other hand, a dog has a tolerant stomach a…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/03/22 10:37 PM
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Consider that in her job, not a lot of men are going to hit on her. For alpha doctors, buffed policemen who bring in thugs with gunshot wounds, etc. that drive hypergamy for nurses up through the roof, these guys also get tons of tail when they drop a line "You know, I could fix parking tickets..." It's like they're (literal) drug dealers. Patients who hit on nurses will be viewed (rightfully) as creepy and she probably doesn't get out much but just sleeps in after a 10 hour shift. In other word…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/03/22 12:21 AM
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What a wonderfully savvy comment. It truly sticks. Thanks so much. Steve Martin has made some very neat movies including "The Lonely Guy" but another I thought was one of the best comedies ever was "Bowfinger." So much great chemistry in it about Hollywood. Another great film: "That guy who was in that... thing"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/03/22 11:54 PM
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Short men simply cannot do anything about it but women such as this, can. Even if "it shouldn't matter", she could just put in a little work. If she took off for a whole year and hit the gym, hard, she could overcome that but chose not to. So think about the lack of commitment that implies: A mere year's worth of work, to improve her own health, but she doesn't want to bother. Why should a man care about her if she won't put in basic effort?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/03/22 11:49 PM
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I'm amused at the premise of the film "My big fat greek wedding": An awkward woman is lonely working at her father's restaurant so she improves herself. She works out, puts some attention into her appearance, and works at a travel agency and smiles more often. Then, the dream happens: A hot guy walks by and becomes enamored of her, asks her out, and the rest is history. Basically, "revenge of the nerds" for women. But note that her self-improvement regime is something she did on her own. She dec…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/03/22 11:43 PM
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As I see this, I wish I could advise my younger self, and others: "Look! No man need be an incel!) (with caveats, of course). If you're in your 20's and not great looking or have much money, and you want to bang a decent looking women, perhaps now more than ever in history can you do that with so much of this low hanging fruit around: Milfs and single mothers. Borrow a nice car, pick her up, take her to a family restaurant and split the entree (it's cozy that way, she doesn't get a doggie bag) a…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/03/22 11:28 PM
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Good question: Young women don't think about consequences. That's a man's job. They're effectively overgrown children who suddenly have a SMV higher than guys who are doctors in their 30's. The modern dating customs is based upon a hodgepodge of "traditional" values that means holding open doors and paying for dates but effectively this one-sided burden creates a quid-pro-quo expectation: If she doesn't sleep with him, he'll think (usually correctly) that he's being "friendzoned" or she'll worry…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/03/22 11:23 PM
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I am rather amused at "don't waste my time" lines by single mothers because they FINALLY understand that time has value. In their 20's, they acted as if getting wined and dined and clown gamed by men was ok because they had all the time in the world. Then when I hit my 30's and finally had some pocket money, paying for an entree (which we split) at a family restaurant was perfectly ok with me because I felt like I had the time and resources to "take it slow" to have a relationship while the biol…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/03/22 11:09 PM
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One of my favorite stories is that when my mother found a playboy under my bed (this is the 80's), she told my father "Ok, give him the talk!" and he did. It was one of the best speeches he ever gave me has he dumped his lifetime of "game wisdom", 1950's style, on me. My wife, on the other hand, learned it second-hand from her teenage friends who consequently, led her astray in some ways. Also, we (the boys) had a sex-ed class in the 80's run by the shop and gym teachers and man, those guys were…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/03/22 11:01 PM
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I just didn't want to unintentionally spam your distro. Thanks.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/03/22 10:52 PM
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One of the hilarious rationalizations women make for their entitlements is that men are supposed to enjoy being the pursuer and provider but we don't and this is why they're often frustrated and angry about it. It's not "feminine" to dislike rejection and pushed into being a clown game dance monkey. The "how did you meet" question when I'm asked I answer two ways: If they're men, and I trust them, I can tell them the truth, warts and all, and have a good laugh about it. The more awkward and hila…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/03/22 10:51 PM
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There are different walls, one can call them perhaps "hurdles", where women still have fundamental attractiveness but they have to do actual work. Going on a dating app is one such hurdle: She no longer can rely upon just waiting for men (she desires) to approach and validate her at cafes as she does nothing. The dreaded question "How did you meet?" is one of curiosity from other men, but for women, there's judgementalism behind it. Women and men find validation differently. It's not just gettin…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/03/22 03:33 PM
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The ideal opening line for her: "I worry you're too skinny for me!"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/03/22 01:07 AM
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I have some good weekend stuff I'd like to post. Can you please tell me how to do it? Should I send modmail to all mods or just one for clearance? I think others would like to know too.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/03/22 01:02 AM
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I just had a fun discussion with a 60 year old single woman colleague about men and cars. She is annoyed that men her age are into "classic" cars. She wants the newer stuff that's luxury even as her car is the nastiest, filthiest thing I've ever seen. The guys, though, they like keeping old cars running. I myself have a 20 year old car and pride myself and taking care of it. it's also environmental since replacing cars, like iphones every other year, is bad for the environment. The computer I'm …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/03/22 12:50 AM
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Actually, life IS short in a manner of speaking and she's already spent it. There's a term for women in their 20's "the best years of their life" when they gripe about a lousy husband they get rid of later, and there's truth to it. A woman's SMV in her 20's is astronomical. It's like she won the lottery. So she can choose to: 1) Waste them working in a corporate office to get promotions to impress her friends on how "liberated" she is. 2) Work as an escort and make serious bank, similar to an en…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/03/22 12:44 AM
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Lab grown diamonds cost is mostly for the electricity somehow which reminds me of another electricity hungry commodity: aluminum. That's why refineries (and bitcoin mining) in iceland is popular: The CPUs provide heating for homes and there's plenty of electricity from thermal energy. Perhaps they should start making diamonds similar to in the (awful) bond film Die Another Day.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/03/22 12:40 AM
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I was seeing if someone else wanted to take this on. You win the prize! A quick search produced: "2 Carat Round Brilliant Cubic Zirconia CZ Sterling Silver 925 Wedding Engagement Ring Sizes 4 to 11" 20 bucks. Lab created 2ct diamonds, chemically the same as actual diamonds, are $3500 and dropping fast. There's this scene in Star Trek where an alien offers Captain Kirk a bucket full of diamonds to impress him and Kirk remarks he could have those made up in the lab in a jiffy. This is why DeBeers …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/03/22 10:14 PM
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Nobody else caught it, so here's what I think is the source of her befuddlement: "True Love" in woman-speak is the whole romance package: Guy gives her the "tingles", says "the right things", does his clown dance, pays for dates, and gives commitment. If she wants unconditional true love, she should get a dog (or even a cat). But a dog or cat's love isn't completely gratis. One has to actually feed and tend to them. One would think someone who works in law enforcement would be a bit more reasona…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/03/22 07:02 PM
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Another fun way of looking at it: The premise of "equity" feminism was that when women were "successful" and "established", they would liberate men from "toxic masculinity" and needing to be a protector and breadwinner for "helpless" women. The problem with that narrative is that "strong" women just want strong[er] men meaning they bring increased demands for men as a reward for his success. it's hard to make them understand but I tell them imagine if you worked hard to make a house clean and yo…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/03/22 05:49 PM
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Married for 18 years. Perhaps I'm lucky that I still have this going but I don't fret about my wife's desire for me. I do my best to keep in shape and be respectful of her needs, but I'm of the opinion that just as she can ask me a DOZEN times a day to do stuff such as take out the trash or mow the lawn whether I'm "in the mood" or not, why should I fret about her mood? She even says "You're doing all the work" and I'll say "I'm ok with that." What's rather neat about those particular situations…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/03/22 05:29 PM
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I googled "conditional femininity" and it's interesting, thanks. We could add a similar concept for men in the post-modern era in that why should we hold open doors, and be "chivalrous" for random women or heck, even attractive women we don't have sex with? I am "chivalrous" for my wife, child and relatives and all the others? They're getting in the lifeboats AFTER me, my friends, and my household pets including my beta fish. The chivalrous ideal of men putting women on pedestals and protecting …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/03/22 05:21 PM
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Losing weight takes effort and time, so there's no much she can do to cover that up aside from filters. But she could at least make the effort to cover up the neck tattoo and remove the nose piercing which screams: "I don't value appearing pleasing to a man I want to support me." This is a zero effort profile on her part showing that's probably the LOE that she made with the child's father and that's why she gets guys who buy her a dinner at Applebees to get into her pants and then after making …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/03/22 07:03 PM
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I spotted that too, but I think that's a thirsty beta trap. Those demands they list openly are what other men in the past THEY'VE SLEPT WITH have refused to do for them so while it irks them, it won't stop the man from getting into bed with them. Heck, what we've learned about modern women is that men who meet their demands are quickly friendzoned.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/03/22 06:29 PM
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Hehehe. I thought the exact same thing. "Strategy" is a system of tactics to achieve a goal. They think demands themselves, are the "tactic". They've even said so in their (highly amusing) handbook. To a certain degree, it's true that "standards" have value particularly as we apply to ourselves. If a man says he won't do something degrading, that is attractive to people in general. And that's ok. But these women don't mean to just say they won't sleep around or reject abuse from men but make dem…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/03/22 11:55 PM
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I'm reminded of the opening scene of Coming to America where the prince is disgusted with the hot, submissive princess that has been raised since childhood to be his perfect wife so he goes to America to seek an independent, American woman in... Queens. It's a funny comedy even to this day but that particular narrative seemed amusing to me as the prince rejects his wealth and status to want to be a fast food worker at McDowells. It's funny but we all know it's no true. But such women above proba…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/03/22 09:24 PM
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What's interesting about this is that it's not that she can't pair bond with the guy, or that the sex has her chasing chad (like we read elsewhere) but she rather just wants money and, like in Goodfellas, "The Life." The same goes I think for many 20 something women who never settle down not because they need "chad" but rather they like "the life" of the "free meals" and beta men having to put on clown acts to get them into bed ("romance"). "Ho's" have been largely decriminalized since the dinne…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/03/22 03:49 AM
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The contempt shown by this woman towards her husband made me think of a story I read about people who worked in government-kill-animal shelters. With hundreds of street cats and dogs arriving monthly, it was necessary to put them down. It often happened that people could only work a few weeks on average and not even call in to quit. The look on a cat's and dog's face, who wants love and affection, and to hold them and try to tell them it will be ok as they are lethally injected must be heartbrea…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/03/22 03:44 AM
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Number 1 rule of life: women lie. Nonetheless, even if she's telling the truth, here's my situation to give you an idea of how screwed this poor woman is: I was 36 and had spent 15 years of my life to be a good prospect for a good woman. My wife, at age 26, recognized this. We courted for 2 years and married. She wanted to make sure the marriage was good, that took another 2 years. She got "fully settled in" at around 31 and we started actively trying to have kids. 3 years later, we did assisted…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/03/22 03:30 AM
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Just got off the phone with a friend of 31 years. His daughter whose 27 is alienated from him because his ex-wife has poisoned her against him. The mother uses children as pawns to try to "get" to him. What happened: His ex-wife he met in a bar and got her knocked up. He Did-The-Right-Thing, got married, and about 10 years in pointed out she needed to carry more weight: She was going out drinking and not helping out around the home. She served him up with divorce papers because... "the courts si…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/03/22 03:18 AM
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Not all men are blessed with red pill wisdom. It's possible that she gave these otherwise high value men "shit tests" and they simply didn't react in the manner she expected. She threw them shit, they gave her shit back, she left, and they called her and tried to make up or even say "I'm sorry" just to placate her. Big Mistake. So now she gets to say she walked out on a "dominator" AND she rejected their apologies increasing her ego. It doesn't occur to us men that someone would deliberately sab…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/03/22 02:07 AM
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There was a book written by Erma Bombeck, I don't even know what political position she held, but she joked about the lives of 1970's housewives. One of the titles of her books was "If life is a bowl of cherries, why do I get all the pits?" and I think this was projection. Modern feminism is about portraying themselves as victims to rationalize a "fair" society that "takes back" everything leaving men with nothing AND acting like she did him a favor. In other words: psychopaths. It amused me bac…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/03/22 05:08 PM
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Indeed, how can we judge anyone at all if not from their past? ANYONE can say they'll do good things in the future. There's even an old joke on Popeye: "I'll happily pay you for a burger Thursday that you give me today."
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/03/22 04:16 PM
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Here's another way of putting it, and a story. A Russian woman friend of ours, looks like Barbie, married a good looking guy but he can't earn a living. During their troubled married, he went off for a night with the boys to a strip club and she shoved $300 into skanky women's G strings and for lap dances. She was not pleased. She and their daughters stayed with us for a week out of anger. So here he was taking resources that she had considered belonged to her family and shoving them into skanky…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/03/22 04:15 PM
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You beat me to this point. It's nice to see other men thinking in a parallel. Indeed, men are expected to work to be husband material even before meeting the woman. Heck, nearly all the work is on our shoulders: What they call "liberation" for her empowerment is instead for us men about building a nest. She buys a home to show her friends, we buy a home for a woman to move into. She has a fancy job to travel the world and bang hundreds of fun foreigners. We have a fancy job to build a nestegg. A…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/03/22 04:09 PM
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You made the point before me so thanks. Being an incel or a virgin is poison to male attractiveness to women even if he's otherwise a good catch. Women "virgin" shame men. In fact, I even used the fact that I had gone to a brothel to shock women in that at first they (act) offended but later are excited that I was able to get sex on my terms, when I wanted, without having to emotionally clown a woman into the sack. That basically made me similar to chad material.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/03/22 04:06 PM
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There's another reason: Commitment. A woman who has shown she can easily get men AND takes advantage of that (sluttiness) has demonstrated that she knows where the CC carousel is and has a season pass. There are still TONS of men who would be happy to shack up with a former slut but he wouldn't mingle his finances with her. It would be FWB which isn't necessarily a bad thing. That's what "true love" is anyway, yes? Up until recently, most men didn't even IMAGINE vetting women for safety beyond h…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/03/22 04:02 PM
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This reminds me of a fun moment I stumbled onto. I watched 1 vs 100 and it was man vs woman. If you're not familiar with the show, the contestant answers a series of questions with him getting the money from eliminated mob members each round. It's a challenging game to win because as he wins money, the mob gets "smarter" via elimination of weak opposition. So anyways, without further ado, the question he won with was: "According to Hallmark, what is the biggest card-giving holiday of the year?" …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/03/22 03:18 AM
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Going end to front for some reason. Seems to work better. The claim that "immigration has shown to increase wages over time" is specious (you didn't provide an explanation for how this is so) and counter intuitive. More supply equals lower prices and that's precisely why companies love more immigration. The claim that Japan's working conditions are worse than here, also specious and highly subjective. Note that the income gap between CEO's in Japan and the USA and their workers is highest in the…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/03/22 02:49 AM
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There's a lot you said I would quibble with, but it would take too long but that's ok. I think if one is going to recycle, at least do it right rather than cheap virtue signal about it. Contaminating the recycling stream is what killed China recycling our plastic waste. It is interesting we haven't figured out a way to just do this ourselves. There certainly is a lot of abandoned, toxic contaminated factories in, say, Detroit that would be ideal for this kind of processing. Ok, I'm gonna quibble…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/03/22 05:45 PM
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I suggested to these women who gripe about this to demand less from men during dating: don't demand free stuff, don't play "hard to get" games (this is different than just taking things slow but respectfully), don't shit test, and so on. But they LIKE all that stuff hence they want all the goodies but want men to suck it up and be noble "gentlemen". And you know, back in the 1980's, I'd say most men were. Back in the 1950's even because women were "oppressed" back then. So now, the FDS types jus…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/03/22 05:33 PM
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Here's another way of looking at it: In PUA game, you accept rejection from 100 women or so to get laid and know that it's temporary and move on. PUA is about decoupling from emotional attachment to women while simulating it nonetheless because women won't have sex with PUAs without a sense of emotional involvement. It's academy award level acting because the women don't even know it's a movie after it's over. But relationships don't exist without some emotion so relationship game is about a con…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/03/22 02:23 PM
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Not disagreeing. 50 years ago was a different time but the seeds of destruction were sown even back then. I'd have still "dropped a dime" on her.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/03/22 03:20 AM
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It's interesting how two major political blocs, the elderly and women, have become somewhat secondary to identity politics overall and the elites. In the old days, those were the two biggies and you didn't mess with "the greatest generation." I'd like to see a literal federal investigation into why our healthcare is so expensive for certain things compared to elsewhere. I just got a dental implant in Ukraine 4 months ago. Cost me $400 after insurance. Here? Would have cost $2200. Same equipment.…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/03/22 03:18 AM
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I dig but I'd love to see all of it sometimes for context.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/03/22 03:11 AM
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There are cultural differences between what American women and Russian women mean by all this, so I had written a response, realized it was geared towards American women, and had to rewrite. For this woman, I think what she (may) mean by "no dating" is that she doesn't like the idea of just going out for dates, then him having sex, and then after a few months of seeing other people decide whether to get married or not. This is largely how it works in the states but also largely in Russia and whi…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/03/22 12:06 AM
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Comrade, I am confiscating this wonderful expression from you for redistribution.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/03/22 11:45 PM
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I wish that if someone posted one of these profiles, they at least could include all the relevant screenshots.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/03/22 10:52 PM
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If you want to have shaking nightmares, youtube "makeup transformations"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/03/22 10:51 PM
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Please see my position above about how a declining birthrate isn't such a bad thing as a society becomes more affluent and efficient. The notion that higher birthrates were necessary come from several schools of thought, most of them, well, bad. Government pension ponzi schemes: Bring in more people to pay off a badly managed fund. Free markets are supposed to raise wages with demand, but the businesses don't like paying a market rate so they import cheap labor. Note that those of this labor was…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/03/22 09:28 PM
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I'm a bureaucrat.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/03/22 09:22 PM
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I just said it that way. I'd say "defensive game" in the sense of avoiding being emotionally or financially manipulated by women. PUA game is primarily about getting women in the sack and hence, one doesn't really fret about whether a woman is out to take you to the cleaners in a divorce because you are primarily concerned about a particular objective. I think this is why so many PUA's get trapped in that their game has a set objective and once that's achieved, they don't emotionally know where …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/03/22 09:21 PM
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50 years ago, if someone saw this they'd have reported her to Child Protective Services.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/03/22 04:27 PM
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I make about half of what she does and I wouldn't take her job. I look FORWARD to my work day. People are pleasant and professional and the work is sustainable. I know people in my environment who literally have to be carried out for retirement because they don't want to go. When you enjoy your work, it's not work at all. She's basically like, RIP, my father. He hated his job and couldn't wait to retire even as he feared doing so. He passed away about 12 years after. Is this liberation for women…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/03/22 04:24 PM
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Here's another way of putting it: I've worked in IT and if you're getting that money, you're earning it with long hours. There's a reason why there was the old fashioned Beaver family with the housewife at home: Someone has to have time and energy to look after a child. Even with daycare and school, evening time is spent helping them with homework, making sure they eat, and if you DON'T HEAR ANYTHING, that's when they're getting into maximum mischief. Walking dogs for relaxation may be pleasant …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/03/22 04:20 PM
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I don't mind slow population decline as a country industrializes and requires fewer workers to produce the same income. Sorry to throw out so many analogies, but consider how CEO's see their stock prices soar (along with their bonuses) if they lay off workers rather than hire. (Ann Coulter brilliantly observed that Reaganomics was the hope that giving tax cuts to CEOs would create jobs when CEOs are incentivized to cut jobs.) (Read the fun Asimov sci-fi novel "Under The Naked Sun") Consider this…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/03/22 02:56 PM
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We all know that although this profile seems too good to be true, in modern times, it isn't. There's 8 month pregnant women with profiles out there. Anything goes. What I find stunning is the utter lack of game or consideration of presentation. She has zero verbal filters or even self-reflection aside from her openly complaining and blaming men. Her profile photo shows a lack of thinking as well in that optical illusion makes her hands look like The Hulk's. She's like a 19 year old spoiled brat …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/03/22 08:27 PM
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There's this interesting youtube series done by a former porn star and she argued that men were just "jealous" that women could ride the CC before settling down and just "get over it." And I think she has a (partly) valid point in that it's funny that when I told women friends that I had gone to a brothel and had a good time, they looked at me with disgust even as I was riding my own carousel. So here's the thing: I've banged women of all age ranges (before marriage) including three different ty…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/03/22 08:12 PM
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Gentlemen. I'm 5'7" and 56. It wasn't this awful 20 years ago, but the general disdain single women had for me could be painful. But... life went on, got married to a pretty woman 10 years my junior, and have a lovely daughter and "American dream" life. Living well is the best revenge. I know dozens of 40 something female acquaintances who wouldn't pee on me to put out a fire and they're single and often childless (or divorced). So whose the loser? The one who had little (pun intended) going for…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/03/22 07:56 PM
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I appreciate your points and certainly, in theory, there are men out there who were born rich, and bored, and don't mind having a spoiled woman whose griping all day. If you can stomach it, watch "The Real Housewives" series. Even my wife got tired of it because the wealthy women behaved so awfully .
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/03/22 01:32 AM
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She's stayed married to him for 30 years and she prefers that she's in charge. Funny story: She HATES surprise parties and he threw one for her and she didn't talk to him for 6 months. My wife tried that on me once and it lasted for about 2 hours.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/03/22 01:28 AM
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Sadly, we have the worst women of all time. Let me tell you about my grandmothers: Maternal: Loved to watch adult movies (yeah, don't know where she got them), great cook, was tough as nails but never raised her voice to a child to get what she needed from them, founded her own charity to help new mothers get through the challenges of their first child, co-ran the Polish family grocery store, a mile long funeral process from the community when she passed on, didn't mind naughty jokes, wasn't eas…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/03/22 12:33 AM
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Let's just say men find assholes in general repulsive. I can still remember it as if yesterday: 35 years ago a woman on the early internet asked me "You don't seem to like women very much. Why do you date them?" I was pointing out how awful women behaved on dates and she had a point. I took off of dating for a while just to get over it. Men largely put up with this to get beta privileges and 50/50 chance of getting divorced or for sex. One wouldn't put up with such awful creatures for the fun of…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/03/22 12:28 AM
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You all need to think out of the box... I'm not saying this applies here, but consider: She has to be able to afford to pay for that lifestyle now, somehow. I'm guessing alimony and child-support. I read a story, I think here, about some average guy who had a hot girlfriend single mother who was getting 6 figure support from a CEO. He basically got to bang this guy's old lady for free with her kids being looked after by a nanny. Opportunity number 2: She mentioned not wanting a job. Fine. But th…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/03/22 09:55 PM
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They'll say "It's in the dictionary, therefore it's true!" But what the dictionary actually says is: "the advocacy of women's rights on the basis of the equality of the sexes." But this is nonsense in that most feminist issues have nothing to do with equality: abortion, rape, free healthcare/daycare... NONE of these are things men had denied to women. And note the wording: women's rights, not mens. So "equality" assumes that men have all the rights we already need and if we don't, that's our pro…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/03/22 09:47 PM
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SNL which usually stinks did a funny skit "the real housewives of Disney" and "Disney couples therapy" (youtube)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/03/22 09:01 PM
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Did you hear? TERF JK Rowling got in a heap of trouble for commenting on this: "Perhaps he should go around and pick up random objects and shake them and see if anything rattles" The TERFs are angry that they special equality is being threatened by their logic being taken to its natural extreme. My Heart Bleeds.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/03/22 08:58 PM
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Here here! I saw the same to seemingly trad-con dads. I have a close relative who spent something like $200K on his daughter's high powered education. She's gorgeous and has a high income. Basically, she's living the feminist dream in her early 20's, all options, no liabilities or debt. She's lived with 5 boyfriends so far. My wife laughed "So... she's a whore?" That's not a high bodycount by today's standards, but by my wife's, she says it's high. So the daughter remarked that these guys, all c…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/03/22 08:53 PM
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Reading the FDS reddit is gold because their complaints are actually a good insight into what real feminism is as those women reject it for their queen delusions. They regard women who are docile and feminine as "pickmes" because such women appreciate and respect masculine help and protection rather than demanding it. For example: You call the police and they show up to stop your house getting broken into. Do you tell the cop: "You did your job. Don't expect me to thank you?" Modern feminism can…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/03/22 08:46 PM
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One of the classic lines from these types is "I don't want to shelter the fragile male ego" and "Men are intimidated by me" as if "strong" men like being "challenged" and attacked continuously. In the hamster-wheel mind of a (young) entitled CC rider, they can afford drama and tingles because they know that a man will stick around to have sex with her for, as she says, 1, 2, or 3 nights. With the tremendous SMV that many young women have, they can afford these delusions like paying for a premium…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/03/22 08:37 PM
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I did that too.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/03/22 01:26 PM
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THAT is an interesting question I've discussed in various online forums for 4 decades. Story: I was at a BBQ held by a lesbian friend of mine and a white knight leftist was spouting off and I was politely disagreeing with him and he challenge me and said "You probably don't think women should be able to vote, do you?" I responded there were legitimate reasons for that if he'd care of hear them. He asked my wife: "Are you ok with this?" And she responded: "He's my husband. I support him." He got …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/03/22 04:06 AM
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There was also a perfect intersectional storm of circumstances favoring divorcing boomers: 1) The Gen-X generation was smaller hence, a supply of young, attractive liberated career women to date the divorcing, older and more affluent boomer men. The same went with dating: Up to the early 80's, it was "Happy Days" for young, feminist women: Lots of older "old fashioned" men to pay the bills and fat paychecks to spend on what she wanted. "Double dip!" time. Like, say, imagine those energy drinks p…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/03/22 03:58 AM
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I feel like my gripes when I was dating in the 1980's would get all you riled up at how good I had it. if you were "at least" as tall, socio-economic status, and paid for dates most of the women would at least give you a chance. If you ran some basic game (caveat: there weren't many good game books back then available), it was pretty easy to land a non-tatted up, childless career women who could even cook. You wouldn't get 2nd date sex and heck, it might even take a month or so. Nonetheless, I f…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/03/22 12:10 AM
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Pardon me for asking, but how old are you? I'm 56. That's ancient to many here, but I feel that a lot of what we see today had already started to bloom in the 1980's. Divorce was increasingly common and normalized and the single mothers were emerging. Child-support awards were so bad back then that I know a guy on an early internet forum who committed suicide because he was having problems surviving. Was child-support so excessive back in the 1950's? What I have seen increasingly is that even in…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/03/22 11:48 PM
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I remember back in 1982, my mathematics teacher mused that feminism went too far. She just wanted voting rights and equal pay in the workplace. The problem is that was too much. Female hypergamy kicked in even in her generation. In some ways, radical feminism provided cover for "mainstream" feminism (equal pay for women, but marry up) so such women could say "I'm not an extremist!" Even back then, I found it offensive when a career woman earned as much as me but got all huffy when I accepted her…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/03/22 10:30 PM
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I don't think this is a break of rule 1, but I'd like to address it. The term "real men" has often been used by White Knights, the authorities, and Entitlement Queens to shame men into doing what suits the status quo rather than his personal best interests or even his notion of morality. That being said, if we define "real man" to be an adult man who accepts personal responsibility and awareness of his decisions based upon reason or his personal principles, I can see situations of men doing this…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/03/22 06:44 PM
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I had a debate on this with a Polish woman about 20 years ago regarding whether it was better for a young woman to be a single mother or adopt it out and move on. Her position was... feelings. She didn't LIKE a child being raised by someone else. Well, perhaps that's why I think it was the best for the child and mother both. If a woman becomes a single mother, it's like she's trying to run a race with a ball-and-chain. The men she attracts will be weak or dangerous. Her selfishness and resentmen…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/03/22 06:27 PM
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Not necessarily frame... I would guess from the May Day Parade of red flags she's showing, such as "someone who doesn't give up at the first sign of trouble" is her way of saying she's got a SPECIAL batch of shit tests ready to throw at someone who wants a one night stand with her. She'll show up late for the date, try to order the most expensive items on the menu to see if it pisses you off (joke and say you only buy such things for your mother) and so on and never get upset and You're In Like …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/03/22 03:35 AM
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But what's especially weird about this type of message is that any man who meets that minimum, and sees her with another man, isn't going to trust her as far as he can throw her in a midget tossing competition. He's going for precisely what she said she doesn't want: FWB/ONS. That being said, I wonder if the opposite works for men: Pre-selection for men probably is one of the best ways to get tons of tail and looking back, if I had my sister who was pretty (back then) pose in a picture with me, …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/03/22 03:32 AM
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Nobody else caught this? "I’m looking for something “real” in every way. That excitement that makes you vibrate every day." That's poetic, despite I think it being translated. It's a neat summation of the delusional entitlement syndrome of such women: The 2nd sentence says she wants movie-like style of excitement like a blockbuster film as if there are a million butterflies everywhere she goes. But the first sentence says she wants it to be "real". This may not be a total contradiction for her. …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/03/22 03:29 AM
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Here's another way of putting it: She's admitting she's not getting any younger or prettier than age. Imagine trying to sell a falling stock: "All the people who approach me for my falling stock want to offer me slightly lower than it's worth. I'll only take the exact value or MORE for what I think it's worth now." This is called chasing a stock down. A friend of mine who works in finance told me the best time to sell a stock is JUST before the peak because that's when people will be offering MO…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/03/22 03:29 AM
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I went to a dating agency similar to that back in the 90's and when I went on blind dates with early 30's career women, the situation was something I'd have loved to make a sitcom out of. They were dressed prim and proper and gave me an icy reception. Their conversation was sort of like a dating app: "How are you?" "Fine." "What do you like to do?" "Watch movies." I think some of them I probably had a chance with if I had been a good boy and paid for the date (back then, I was religiously into 5…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/03/22 09:20 PM
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Gentlemen, I think I have a value solution to this conundrum: My sister is a travel agent and says she knows how to score Carnival cruises for 5 days for something like $300 including taxes. (This was a few years ago). She'll Never Do It Again. She saw folks changing baby diapers on dining room tables and other horrors. Anyways, I can't imagine this "queen" would get better takers and for an "incel" whose that desperate, it's an option. Heck, even better: book the cruise out a month (or two) in …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/03/22 08:26 PM
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I had a colleague at work this actually happened to. He went on a dating agency date back in the 90's and it was a gal who looked similar to this went to the mall and shopping and he quietly abandoned her when she went to the changing room.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/03/22 08:18 PM
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An observation that if she was married, she'd have the same length of dick inside of her but it would be one long, continuous, dick. Having banged milfs, and been married, I can testify that older, sexually experienced women (with a low notch count, but lots of sex regardless) are still as good in bed as younger women although childbirth plays a larger factor. In some ways, they are often better. I think the greater risk isn't the dick, itself, but as others here point out the pair-bonding and o…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/03/22 05:12 PM
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I had fights with my wife for YEARS about Saturday. Saturday for me is my relax day. I MAY choose to do some pleasant or necessary chore such as cleaning the fish tank (which I find relaxing) or a hobby but otherwise I'm rewarding myself for my workweek and encourage her to do the same. Instead, she engages in the most unpleasant chores imaginable and tries to rope me in. I wonder if that's what these masculine "successful" women do: They're in a competition with... whatever (their own ideals, p…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/03/22 02:41 PM
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In the old days, when women were oppressed and had to, gasp "settle", "being more careful" meant getting a beta bucks or a "nice guy". The guy who actually bought into what women said he was supposed to be: Hard working, chivalrous, door opening, kind, attentive, and other wimpy traits. He also wouldn't be in the top looks physically, but "careful" meant that she recognizes that she isn't getting younger or prettier so eventually, in less than a decade or so, her SMV is going to be more or less …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/03/22 02:41 AM
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My wife is friends with an amazingly hot single mother, 34 y/o. She jokingly calls her "Barbie". She's an easy 9/10 for her age group, but 8.5/10 overall. I don't think any man wouldn't mind having her on his arm in public. Add to that she's one of the hardest working women I know. She works full time in IT, and has a side business in real estate investing. Her ex has weekend custody of the girls, about 8 and 11 respectively, so this means that she's largely free on the weekends for dating. They…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/03/22 02:37 AM
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This is womanese for a shit test: He should want to pay for dates and, on his own, express interest in the child without her nagging him into it. "Real" men do what women want to do, without the woman asking, and of his own free will. And if he doesn't, she punishes him.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/03/22 02:30 AM
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There's multiple ways to look at it, all of them bad: 1) She let a total psycho loser come in her. 2) He's a nice guy, but she divorce raped him. Whose next up at bat? Ok, there's a third option and it could be ok: 3) He's in the military and did cheat on her (this happens a lot, both sides) and he's deployed out of the country. In another blog run by a single mother I was haunting, she was claiming that "single mother" includes war widows and such and back, perhaps, 50 years ago, that was the c…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/03/22 02:29 AM
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I find the claim that gay men have the least DV to be VERY intriguing and will certainly look it up. This set of statistics turns the women-as-victim narrative upside down.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/03/22 09:20 PM
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Back then, nothing terribly sophisticated. I couldn't for the life of me understand why someone with a good income would offer to pay her way on a date that went well and then say she didn't want to see me again. So I established that a girl really liked me by chatting her up, suggesting a fun second date before the dinner was over and getting her to agree to a time and day, and then waiting for her to make the offer. She then told me she changed her mind about the second date. Other stuff I tri…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/03/22 06:33 PM
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There's so much in that above sentence. Imagine if they could go back in time. Would it have turned out any differently or would they still have waited to "meet" the "right person" sitting around expecting him to provide the "right" relationship on a silver platter? What disgusted me back even in the 1980's was the apathy of so many bourgeoisie women, even working class women, who had the attitude that men were the "lucky ones" to pay all the bills.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/03/22 11:40 PM
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About 30 years ago, the narrative went women didn't like being approached by "losers" they weren't interested in. While yes, they rarely will call out a man whose attractive for approaching them for harassment, the fact is a few will just for the fun of it and besides, those guys get approached all the time by women and they know it. A chad I knew was notoriously hit on whenever he tried to go to the bathroom and the women had this kind of female-PUA gauntlet set up to hit on him. It was hilario…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/03/22 02:09 AM
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By women's standards, she blew past the wall when she admitted she had to do online dating. There's a reason why men outnumber women on dating apps: Women dislike them. They don't have the power edge to say "I have a boyfriend" that they lose when they create a profile that implies "I WANT a boyfriend." Women are terrified of being judged by other women such as dating someone shorter than them OR saying "I met a guy on online dating" (because I had to). They'll even just lie and make up a story …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/03/22 01:59 AM
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Well, yes and no. She gets attention even if only sexual. If she gives them any such attitude, they move on and she knows it. She puts out on the 4th date, at most, because she knows they'll walk. To her credit, she says "I don't see a connection" so someone such as you, or me, don't have to put our hands in a toaster. They all do. And that's a GIFT to us.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/03/22 01:52 AM
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I have friends back 30 years ago who just "went along to get along" and they paid for dinner dates, said what they were supposed to say, and "got lucky". 1/2 are divorced and about 1/2 of the remainder are stuck with land whales or control freaks. Perhaps it's good that when women played the "pretend to reach for their purse" game and I said "sure, you can pay 1/2" I didn't marry them. If they were SMART and they reached for their purse and said "I'll pay the whole thing and you get it next time…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/03/22 01:50 AM
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As you point out, modern "independent" women such as herself both made it difficult for men to "chat them up" AND they refuse to learn the social graces of their great-great grandmother by learning how to chat up men. (Because that would be "submissive".) She wants "old fashioned" courtship but in those days, women didn't go out with hot guys and get free stuff from them. They courted at her parent's house (and back then, their parents were also likely married and not divorced.) Her perception "…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/03/22 01:45 AM
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While today the "real man" shaming ploy is so often heard, when was the least time women were shamed to be "real" women? Back in the 1980's, to refer to women as "girls" was considered an insult. It implied she wasn't to be taken seriously as CEO, in politics or such. My old woman friend had a club called "International Girls". Nobody in it was under 70. But on the feminist forums, they squawk about how "society" tries to push them into a feminine role to be submissive, agreeable, and even gener…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/03/22 08:35 PM
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Here's a useful example: I know women who are highly educated and even successful in business. Like those math questions we used to fill out: "One train is going Northwest at 30 mph and another SouthEast at 55mph. They will meet in 1 hour. How far away will they be in a 1/2 hour?" A woman could sometimes answer that better and faster than me. But when it's personal, they lose it. I'll admit this can happen to me too. That's why when I'm under stress and need to think, I go and decompress or even…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/03/22 03:11 PM
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Not sure if you're asking a serious question. No, they aren't full of shit but I think they have a mind that cannot differentiate between emotion and logic. If a man gets upset and snaps, he may say "I regret doing that. I was upset." Men can be irrational (we call it "oneitus" or "thinking with the little head" and such, but the key is we actually UNDERSTAND irrational thinking. Most women don't have that concept. A man will hit the wall with his emotional thinking over and over and eventually …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/03/22 05:16 AM
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She argued that she gave him an expensive gift. I recently told my sister who gave me a gift card every year to not bother. I would send her a gift card, she'd send me one, and basically we were sending each other the money over and over again forcing us to go to restaurants. That's not necessarily a bad thing in that it's nice to feel like someone told you to go out and enjoy yourself even if you just "swapped" out. She "takes me out" for my birthday and vice-versa. There's a nice sentiment to …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/02/22 03:12 AM
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Back when the Simpsons was funny and thoughtful, there was a cute scene where Homer agonized over a gift to give Marge and couldn't figure it out. He comes up to her with a sad look on his face and she gives him a gift. Inside the box was... A gift for her, wrapped and with her name on it. He hands it to her and she says "thank you." Now putting aside that any gift she bought was with family money, etc, the point was that she gave a gift to herself but gave Homer the credit. That was her "gift" …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/02/22 03:06 AM
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Haha! Funny observation that the male identity of beauty, even one superimposed via romanticism, is a thin, blonde, blue eyed woman. The classic line of masculine ideal: "Tall, dark, and handsome" is amusing because 'dark' is a nordic ideal for some strange reason as women think they make themselves more attractive if they get tanned and if a man is also tanned while a "ginger kid" man is a mutant. I suppose this thinking is driven by men who are athletic are often outdoors and therefore darkene…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/02/22 11:43 PM
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Noted. It's amusing that the premise, as you observe, is that he sees "inner beauty" as if that's surmisable when one first talks to someone. Although there are many toxic/sweet people who are apparent, this takes weeks, even months to get an inkling as to someone's inner nature. What we didn't see in the film was someone who was ugly on the inside AND outside. It's a blue pill premise in the film that pretty women could have rotten hearts, and sometimes they do, but I found oftentimes that pret…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/02/22 11:39 PM
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The 2001 film "Shallow Hal" is gaslight projection at its finest: A frumpy, short guy is portrayed as only wanting hot women at the clubs so a hypnotist "helps" him by seeing "inner beauty" which in-effect means just seeing all ugly people as attractive (even before getting to know them.) He falls in love with a woman whose exceptionally obese. In 2005, Deuce Bigalow, the protagonist is a short guy who becomes a "man whore" selling his body to exceptionally unattractive women including a transve…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/02/22 03:12 PM
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Indeed. When I read about women griping that they didn't get the right to vote until men had first secured it for themselves over a century earlier, that the concept of society and government comprised of people, rather than elites, is a recent one. Monarchy, feudalism, and statism has largely been the rule (pardon the pun) for most of civilized history. One could say that the greatest mistake made by the new populist patriarchy, which was comprised of all men both rich and poor, was to allow th…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/02/22 10:04 PM
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I think this breaks rule numbers 1, 2, AND 3!!!! Notifying the moderators. That being said, you missed the point: If this is the "bare minimum" ("goal oriented", "family oriented" or "gentlemen/ladies") then why didn't SHE achieve them HERSELF 14 years earlier?!?! Will she want to hear from, say, a 36 year old man whose just moved out of his parents' basement and gotten a job sweeping floors and plans to graduate school in 4 years and start earning a decent living? That's "goal oriented", isn't …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/02/22 08:21 PM
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Indeed... epiphany here, thanks! When has a woman ever made a profile: "I would like a guy who doesn't mind a wealthy career women paying his way. Also, I don't mind cooking and cleaning it's very therapeutic so please don't white knight me or feel guilty!" The terms "goal oriented" and "gentlemen" largely mean ATM machine that holds open doors. "Generous" was another term I often read in profiles 30 years ago that tended to mean she was checking to see how much he spent on her. There are two ty…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/02/22 08:05 PM
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I'm working on a thesis I call "Sustainable Game" the idea is that the more men who practice it, the better relations between men and women. Normal game, which involves spray-and-pray, does little to improve results short term but harms everyone long term.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/02/22 04:59 PM
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The "mating game" as we know is is about a century old. Before then, it was either arranged marriages or parents chaperoning young people at each others' houses. Men largely have had to figure out from women's "signals" if it's ok to approach them and this involves becoming ad-hoc experts on body language, particularly eye contact. If she stares at you and then looks away, or even stares at a lot of men, that's a good sign but, of course, not definite which is why the burden still falls upon men…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/02/22 03:59 PM
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The "feminism is about equality" stance was propaganda aimed at softening men to accept women's voting rights and equal opportunity. From the beginning, and if you read the materials even of the suffragette era, the hypocrisy was evident. Heck, it's even so contradictory as to be farce. I think that's the origin of the fake offer by many women to pay their way on a date. It's insincere (she's expecting him to DEMAND to pay) and it has worked to push such men into the matrix: The men don't want t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/02/22 02:29 PM
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Yeah, I know which is why I find it amusing. As spoiled as she was portrayed in the video, there is something to be said for someone who appreciates that common people can have worthwhile lives and a married woman living in a shack with 4 kids and her hubby can be happier than an upper class woman spending her days at the high end mall. Life is what one makes of it. It's a fascinating song about mocking the wealthy admiring the poor while the poor are regarded as living lives of despondency by t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/02/22 02:24 PM
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it didn't matter to them what I thought back when I was 22 because I was a nobody back then. It's like whether Elon Musk cares about what I think. And that's understandable. The only way to "reach" someone in that mindset is when you're up or they're down or both. I'm 56 and I have a 6 year old lovely girl. So when I go out with this lovely girl and my wife, it's impressive to the overall society around me particularly I would expect to those women that rejected me in their 20's and now are goin…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/02/22 03:20 AM
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Do you remember K-mart? I have fond memories of it as a child. The original "Big Box" store. Kmart INVENTED catalog/mail-order shopping a century before Amazon. People ordered HOUSES from Kmart (or was that Sears?) Anyhoo, it was HUGE back in the 1970's. As a family, we'd grab some pizza at the mini cafe and Dad would look at fishing gear, my brothers and me would hit the bike area, and the sisters would look at Blue Light specials in the clothing section. Towards the end, the marketing folks sp…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/02/22 02:16 AM
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I found it funny that when I really did tell them openly what they needed to do to land a better man, basic responsibility, they dismissed and blocked me. They simply don't want good advice which, considering their ethics, probably is a good thing.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/02/22 02:06 AM
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I expect many men have already been dealing with this scenario for some time by striving to avoid their exes scratching their car. Ironically, it plays into their egos: "He didn't dump me! I dumped him! He asked me to pay more for dates, said he was having money problems, so I dumped him! Loser!" Ironically, such a law could backfire on a lot of women as well in that women are just as likely to cheat on their spouses as men are (if anything, it's a lot easier for young women to cheat than men.)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/02/22 01:52 AM
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I love the song "common people" because that song describes me. I prefer to live amongst the "common people" albeit as one whose got my finances together than being in a 4 star hotel district in a touristy area. I don't want the LOWEST, grimiest neighborhood but I do prefer the places normal, honest folk go. For example: I go to a strip mall in a city I've never been in before and go to the back and see if there's a restaurant there. If it's busy, I Have Struck Gold. Only locals will know about …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/02/22 11:55 PM
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Minor quibble: Even before OLD, things were getting tough. What broke dating was equal workplace opportunity: Women were told they "didn't need no man" but she still insisted "a REAL man pays for everything". Two problems burning the candle at both ends: 1) Man has to work harder to outearn with his future wife. 2) His rewards are less: She is "independent" and will remind him of it continuously. I was surprised that OLD didn't go the other way: Women realizing like this one that a hundred guys …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/02/22 11:50 PM
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"Traditional dating" as we define it today, largely is a creation of modern chivalrous ideals. Note that "chivalry" originally was a military honor code similar to The Geneva Convention of knights to not ravage the civilian population (including peasant men) and respect POWs. It was responsible for the flourishing of western civilization as cities weren't aperiodically burned to the ground and looted in power squabbles. Before modern dating, women didn't "go out" with men where he'd lavish her w…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/02/22 11:41 PM
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Look up the Greek myth of Tiresias
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/02/22 11:24 PM
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I think it's entitlement. Men understand that we see dozens of hot women a year that we'd love to have nookie with. We know that if we approached and propositioned them, most of them would say no. Even a Chad knows that there's a chance a gal turns him on and she may say no. But for women such as this, their attitude is they can have sex with anyone they want so why shouldn't they EXPECT tingles if sex with men is effectively free. It all comes down to "settling" for something only men should su…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/02/22 04:43 AM
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Hehehe. My wife was staying with relatives one time for a week and I was responsible for looking after the 5 year old girl on my own. Sometimes it seemed like a toy store had exploded and all of them were on the floor. I worried that if I cleaned them up, I'd set a bad precedent and just then... One of my wife's friends came in to check up on me and had this look of disgust on her face as if I was the most horrible dad in the world. Note: I fed my child, I bathed her, got her to school, etc. but…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/02/22 03:46 AM
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Agreed. By the same token the guys who regard "government as the problem" love The Constitution, the police, and huge military budgets...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/02/22 03:43 AM
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This particularly relative I talk about had, in my opinion, an almost ideal childhood. She's actually quite likable other than her cultural attitude towards men. Her father is well-to-do as well as the mother and he's a tough guy towards his underlings at work, but the wife wears the pants in the family. He threw her a surprise birthday party, against her wishes and, I just recently heard, She gave him the silent treatment for 6 months. I laughed my head off. My wife tried the silent treatment o…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/02/22 11:47 PM
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There's the saying that goes watch how someone treats the waiter because that's you in 20 years. One of the few advantages of being short is we see how women are like BEFORE we put a ring on them. My cousin is a tall guy and married a tall woman and she had a female mid-life crisis and thought she could do better. She callously divorced him (2 kids) and went out bar whoring. About 8 years later, she married an almost exact look-alike to my cousin, only shorter and he married a prettier version o…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/02/22 11:37 PM
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When my wife first moved to the states, she had a work ethic (still does) and wanted to earn a living. She wanted to be a waitress so why not? She discovered that people lowed their tips for bad service. So if she had 12 tables and struggled to serve them well, she earned the exact same amount in tips if she had 6 tables. I found her observations fascinating because it didn't occur to me that a waitress had so much work. Just pick up a plate and take it to table and be done, right? But she says …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/02/22 09:23 PM
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I resemble that remark. I shop at about three stores regularly: Start out at Costco, then onto Aldi, and finally a chain grocery store. Generally, Costco has high quality flowers at $20 but Aldi can't be beat for $10. Guess which ones I bought for my wife. And then, for my 5 year old daughter who was jealous of mommy, I picked up on the day after Valentine's day leftover roses for $7 a dozen. They actually were quite nice. Additional pro-tip: Save the wrapping plastic from the florist or the che…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/02/22 07:11 PM
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It's my contention that seemingly conservative men encourage slutty behavior from their daughters and then project it onto the men. Consider the title of the show "Rules for dating my daughter." The men ALLOW their daughter to be picked up and plied with gifts to encourage her to "put out" and the fathers are angry at the men for corrupting her. Er, he ENCOURAGES his daughter to allow this. He DID THIS when he was young and now he's suspicious of other men doing it. Before I was a father, I was …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/02/22 04:01 PM
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Thank you for explaining that. Couldn't have done a better job myself.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/02/22 03:51 PM
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While it's "far be it for you" to argument for less freedom for women, consider that many women want to be regarded as "women and children" together in issues such as financial support, access to emergency services (lifeboats), or even just paying for their own dinner. Yeah, I didn't get laid in these instances but it was hilarious for me when a woman would go on and on about how independent she was and "had her own job and house" and I'd ask "So... you can pay for your own dinner, yes?" It didn…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/02/22 03:40 PM
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Fantastic. I'll add to the discussion (largely agree with you) that there's "bread and butter", there's "stuff that's nice to have" and there's "junk I shouldn't have bought to begin with" that people carry around with them. Conservatives, note I said Conservatives (NOT RINOs) have had less of the "bread and butter" on the agenda than the other stuff. In the context of this forum, strong masculinity is one of those things that are essential for the survival or restructuring of a society. That's …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/02/22 02:50 PM
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They never do.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/02/22 02:28 AM
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Here's the interesting thing: Although there's a LOT of propaganda out there trying to lie to women to get them to believe they have plenty of time, that there's no such thing as a woman's biological clock, and that older women have just as much SMV as younger ones, there's also a lot of word-of-mouth going around showing young women otherwise. They see their aunts who are unmarried and childless and the aunt gripes about "no good men left". They hear and read stories both from people and in the…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/02/22 02:25 AM
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I have a 5 year old girl and I want to red pill her into understand that The Dinner Date and attention for the 20's and 30's is tempting. Why "settle down" with one guy when she can be wined and dined by dozens enjoying a lifestyle that men reading Playboy dreamed about? These women are basically selling out their best years away to be corporate nuns slaving away to impress a boss, enjoy some free meals, or sleeping with chads thinking that she's "hot." I've met dozens of women who literally liv…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/02/22 02:14 AM
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I want you to know I'm not a typical right winger. I don't buy into this free-market nonsense anymore either. That being said, I think politics in general is out of scope for this forum. Have a good weekend.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/02/22 11:40 PM
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I appreciate your point and 40 years ago, I'd have agreed with you. But since then I have come to the conclusion that libertarianism is fundamentally flawed because it assumes the primary issue of society is taxes. It's not. Identity politics plays an even larger role along with cheap labor immigration. The Koch brothers, for example, called for lower taxes while exacerbating the threats to western civilization and lining their own pockets and rent seeking their own refineries from "grandfather …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/02/22 02:44 PM
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Can't speak for the younger folks but back then, getting the younger ladies was a challenge. MILFs wee just easier and not because they had lower SMV. Women overall are more challenging to game today than previous generations. My mother "shit tested" my father in 1957 by giving him her name at a dance and he looked her up in the phone book. And that's what it took for a lifetime marriage between the two of them. MILFs also were a bit more feminine. No face piercings, weird hair (back then at lea…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/02/22 05:24 AM
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People vote Democrat for identity politics more than welfare. That being said, I don't like your idea basically where the wealthy would effectively become a core elite with working men as peasants. Heck, in some ways we have that ALREADY in that with campaign contributions and lobbying while we're denied "identity politics" ourselves, our vote is largely ignored while the senator takes the calls from his donors. I'll tell you a story: My wife came across Barbara Comstock, a Republican senator, a…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/02/22 10:25 PM
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I don't insist that a nurse OR hair stylist be naturally super pretty, but generally if someone shows signs of mental illness or self-mutilation, I feel a bit worried.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/02/22 07:07 PM
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I read those clickbait articles myself and found the same: Welfare mothers are lumped in with factory worker men providing for a family just as "the wage gap" lumps doctors and welfare mothers together. I'd like to see a reform of the voting laws similar to Starship Troopers: Votes go to the financial head of a household whose earning money AND paying taxes. If a career woman wants to marry a househusband and pay the taxes, then she votes on behalf of the whole household to be counted out: Her, …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/02/22 06:55 PM
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I'm betting she's an LPN or something like that?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/02/22 06:46 PM
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Hope to start off your weekend with a nice story: My friend's mother was a Vietnam war era war widow. Back then, she took the insurance money and went to school and got a nursing degree and quickly remarried. Truly one of the most based woman I had the pleasure of knowing. She said that back in the 1960's if a welfare mother was giving birth, she and the doctor would deliver the baby and then quietly tie her tubes.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/02/22 06:45 PM
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Actually... there was a book written "Very Important People" "She describes how clubs and restaurants pay promoters to recruit beautiful young women to their venues in order to attract men and get them to spend huge sums in the ritual of bottle service. These girls enhance the status of the men and enrich club owners, exchanging their bodily capital for as little as free drinks and a chance to party with men who are rich or aspire to be. How much does it pay to be Leonardo DiCaprio's revolving d…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/02/22 04:45 PM
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Hehehe. That just occurred to me now that in The Blue Pill, ALL men should DESIRE to be "beta bucks" and provider, protectors, and pleasers of women. It's fascinating because for the duration of human civilization since caveman times and onward up to the concept of modern chivalry, that wasn't the case. Men didn't need to lavish women to get sex since women were "oppressed" and bound to men via marriage or in a harem. He didn't lavish his wife with goodies to keep her around: She worked out in t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/02/22 01:17 PM
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I'm quibbling, I know, but hear me out. We all know that she has at least 100 guys in her inbox, if not more and many do have self-respect. They'll pass her slut-denial shit test and say they don't want sex, charm her and get some action and then act like "jerks" (ask her to pay for dinner) and she'll dump them saving them the risk of dumping her and going Fatal Attraction Bunny Boiler on him. There are average looking schmucks who aren't good enough looking to land the hot chad riders who can g…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/02/22 03:52 AM
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Here's what's funny about modern women: They both march around proclaiming that the slur about women being sexually promiscuous is nonsense, are against "body shaming" but yet they fret about their reputation or having sex with men they "aren't attracted to." She's not some young girl "saving herself for marriage" so why does she fret about sex? Back about 30 years ago, I liked MILFs because they generally were a lot less hung up about sex than the younger women. After a few ex-husbands and sinc…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/02/22 10:14 PM
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In their world of double standards, of course, they often make postings griping that men say they like "natural" women even as these same men would say she "looks tired" or less pretty without her makeup. That being said, there are a limited number of men out there I have known who fit their dream contradictory demands: Men raised in ideal households, always were supported, physically fit and perfectly toned and high metabolism, well educated, comfortable job and quickly promoted, kind hearted w…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/02/22 11:32 PM
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This is how one of them explained it to me about 35 years ago: She said she wanted a man who was self-confident, but sensitive, and fit but NATURALLY and not ARTIFICIALLY. They feel it's better that way since she's not asking him to work to please her, but rather he's just already that way so just as she can just "be herself", without effort, he can also be "himself" without effort. See, a "Real Man" is perfect and happy to please women, so there's no burden she's making on him.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/02/22 04:11 PM
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I just now came up with this theory. The reason for the long lists is the women are basically masturbating to this perfect man they create in their minds. With us men, when we look at adult material (ahem, so I hear :-), we look at actual women albeit exceptional ones but don’t overly fret about her personality or backstory. OK, she’s a hot pizza delivery girl who wants a “special tip.” Who cares about what books she reads? Alpha widows, Disney fans, and Romance Novel readers have read about HUN…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/02/22 02:53 PM
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Stuff falling off. She had gum issues due to the smoking. She was taking nicotine patches but still took about 2 cigs during the BBQ where I asked her to go out to the backyard out of smell's way.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/02/22 04:48 AM
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She reminds me of the Melanie character on Jackie Brown if she reached the age of this woman: She liked to smoke weed, she liked sex, and she had ZERO ambition or scruples. What a wonderful character. My Ukrainian father-in-law loved that film.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/02/22 04:13 AM
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I had a thought about the smoker's remark: Spain and Greece probably have a LOT of smokers. Generally in the states, I think only about 14% smoke and usually in the lower classes. I HATE cigarette smoke and I got YEARS between smelling it second hand. One of the few blessings of progress. Nonetheless, "smoker" culture offers some benefits in that they tend to be around "cool" places (casinos, bars, and such), they are more adventurous (the bikers, tattoo parlors, etc.) and well, they might be up…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/02/22 03:39 AM
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I'm chuckling as this remark "triggers" a conversation I had with my best man at my wedding 20 years ago. He said "Don't you want to be a hero?" Although the movie wasn't out yet, "kiss ass" had the line "Who wants to be a superhero as compared to banging Scarlett Johanasson?" I agree with that villain. I had no interest in being a selfless superhero. I'm a decent man with my interests balanced against those of society's. I went on to marry a woman I'm still with. His ex-wife has alienated his d…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/02/22 03:35 AM
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Here's the thing: I have known "sluts" in the old days, and this is caveman times, and I wouldn't mind if they really meant that in that they would meet me for a picnic, go for a walk, and they brought wine and I brought some food and we both contributed to a traditional date and we really enjoyed each other as people. In fact, former sluts (back a long time ago) were probably the nicest gals I knew. But that was a totally different culture and these women walked the walk. if they want the guy t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/02/22 03:13 AM
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Well, sort of. I don't know the details, but it's not necessarily always cost that is a factor for losing contracts. Sometimes it's just politics and via various means the project switches owners because a particular senator listened to a lobbyist. Like you said, the worker bees have a choice: Go to the new contract at a lower rate or jump ship. But that's assuming that the money isn't there because after all, the company IS MAKING money. If I were to say to my boss: "My wife wants Invisalign, i…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/02/22 03:07 AM
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This is a neat summation of the FDS philosophy: SMV And RMV should be the same. Women have ultra high SMV when they're young, and even a bit older: They can always get nookie. But they are angry at men that, gosh, men aren't creatures who exist solely to please them. In that solipsistic worldview, projection and paranoia are more common than not. They even say stuff they ought not to be saying. This is something police take advantage of with sociopaths: Just get them talking. Give them a beverag…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/02/22 03:03 AM
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163 upvotes. Good point. I believed one but ignored it. Sort of. She told me to watch out for warning flags and and then displayed them. I think it was some kind of hamster-wheel game she was playing or as Native Americans put it: "counting coup". She told me to get away from crazies, acted crazy, and I didn't go. So in her mind, she then sort of had permission to act as she did. That being said, I don't regret the relationship. I got some sex out of it and a lot of experience and in the end, we…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/02/22 02:50 AM
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Wonderful life observation. Kind of reminds me of the whole masculine-feminine route that we see today. Such women have lived like men (in a good way) and not minded it. They now want to "settle down" a little much like a man who "sowed his wild oats" and just wants to take things a little slower, not necessarily with kids. So far, not so bad really. But the problem is like you said that such people who want stability from others may not know how, or care, to offer it to others. They want someon…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/02/22 02:08 AM
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My wife had a friend (thankfully, that broke apart and you'll understand why in a moment) who had 3 ex-husbands that she exploited to the maximum and blew all of the money she got from them. She's a heavy smoker. At about 45 years old or so, stuff began to fall off of her due to the smoking. She has officially hit The Wall. But just as she was hitting it, she managed to hook up with an attorney who was frumpy looking and had low social skills, but still, he was giving her the time of day. She br…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/02/22 04:57 PM
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According to the PUA handbook, if she mentions sex that means she's a slut in denial. If a woman really was serious about no sex, she could mention all the things she brings to the table and... that's it. No need for demands. She could then wait to see what men OFFERED her. That's what men largely do: They offer women things and then see what the woman offers and set their objectives accordingly (dump, sex, marriage.) "No sex" && "List of Demands" is pretty much as solid a signal that she's a sl…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/02/22 11:45 PM
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Largely true, but note that up until 1960, men largely determined who women slept with. Either she was 'taken" by conquest or, for marriage, a woman chose a man entirely on his provider value (and approval from her family) rather than how attractive he was otherwise.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/02/22 06:03 PM
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In all fairness... women 30 to 50 can still get sexual attention if they go OLD or to a bar and they'll get free drinks and even a meal or two merely by not being a total crazy skank driving them off. For nearly all men, sex requires effort throughout our lifetimes. BUT... and here's the catch, she won't get sexual attention from CHAD anymore looking for an easy lay with an 8. She's now a 6 and she'll only get attention from betas from then on. It's like a 20 year free pass to a cheap buffet: Al…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/02/22 04:02 AM
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It's unpaid because it's your own labor. It would be like demanding a government subsidy for cleaning my own home. Her "unpaid" labor technically only applies to his share of house and childcare chores. Granted, he is technically on the hook for the 1/2 share of taking care of his children and home, but that is offset by the additional income he brings in compared to her. If she's a housewife, she's effectively a bum squatting in someone else's home.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/02/22 03:52 AM
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Nearly all of it is projection. I would ask women to go dutch on dates and they'd call me "cheap". Er, refusing to date someone unless you can mooch off of them isn't "cheap?" The show on the (non) Learning Channel, Extreme Cheapskates, has hilarious episodes where people go to extremes to save money where they'd be better off working minimum wage instead. For example, a guy pulled toilet paper in half to get "more" paper out of it (even though he might use twice as much to wipe) and it would ta…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/02/22 03:49 AM
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Terms such as "real man" and "feminine woman" are thrown around, but what do they mean really? The reason why HVM prefer "feminine" women is one of gratitude. Yes, he doesn't ENJOY paying for things and being in the breadwinner/provider role, it's why men go through painful maturation process obviously, but at least a feminine woman is GRATEFUL. She shows appreciation and respect and SUBMISSION to a man whose providing for her even if it's only 60/40. "Queens", however, who want to be masculine …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/02/22 03:43 AM
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I'm reminded of various sci-fi scenarios where someone goes through virtual reality thinking that they had been in prison or war and they are woken up and hear "Guess what! NONE of that happened! Now isn't your ordinary life better?"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/02/22 03:34 AM
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Freezing eggs at 40 reminds me of when I've got a steak I bought a week ago and is about to go bad. If I freeze it then, does it become "fresh" when it thaws? I googled the overall rate of frozen egg conception: 18% overall, a LOT less for older eggs. And what would be the point, anyway? Is she likely to find the perfect guy in her 50's who will want to roll the dice and hope that they produce a healthy child together to raise into their 70's? If people lie on dating apps about their looks, then…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/02/22 03:30 AM
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Agreed. Minor semantic quibble: "how dare he think I have no value apart from my holes" "her problem is not in picking the wrong guys but in bringing no value to any relationship." Let's try it this way: A male beta orbiter does bring value to a relationship and by a more civilized age, many women back then would have been happy to have him. But she just thinks "she can do better" or his friendzone offerings lower his value in her eye as him seeming "desperate". But in this case, I agree that as…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/02/22 11:45 PM
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I'm not a chick, but it IS hard for them. This is why they have entire support forums such as FDS to remind each other to say "no." The fact is that the so-called traditional dating scene that modern women love both allows women to trick men into buying them stuff in the hopes of getting sex later but ALSO for attractive men to leverage women into having sex before marriage because he worries, rightly so, he's being "friendzoned" or used himself. Since most women insist that men prepay for sex v…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/02/22 05:17 PM
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Back in caveman times, in the early 90's, my lawyer told me that he used to be an encyclopedia salesman and the tricks of the trade. For starters, he did a lot of cold calling knocking on doors. Dogs bit his derriere. His foot-in-the-door was that he was offering a FREE Encyclopedia set. Catch? you say? Well, they had to buy the updates. (wink). If they asked for the set without updates, he would say he couldn't give away something that the client wasn't willing to support. My father fell for it…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/02/22 05:10 PM
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Minor (exceptionally minor) quibble: She DOES provide him with sex which is what keeps him around similar to beta orbiters who cry "I'm such a NICE GUY!" and get angry at the girl who thinks of him as "just a friend", he stomps off in an angry huff, and she calls him perhaps a month later to flirt with him and then ask him to drive her to the airport and he thinks to himself: "This is my chance! After this, she'll like me for sure!" She could try the FDS route and deny him the sex and see what h…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/02/22 05:06 PM
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The myth of "high demands" comes from the observation that men prefer women with low bodycounts (non-sluts) so if they have high standards, perhaps they have a small funnel. This is now largely meaningless in that women with supposedly high demands for men could just be declaring she's "done with hookups" and looking for a bailout. Demands for MEN now mean largely nothing. What matters are standards for HERSELF. Does she act and behave in a manner that makes traditional courtship possible? Does …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/02/22 04:29 PM
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I should write up something long on this, but here's the short version: Much of The Wall for women isn't that they suddenly become old, ugly hags unworthy of relationships. The (first) Wall is she may have to EARN relationships that were previously just handed to her. Between Disney, socio-biology, and massive girl power culture, many young women become sort of sexually handicapped needing men to "push them around". She craves men approaching her, him risking rejection, him reading her mind as t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/02/22 03:33 AM
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They always want the games to end... after they're losing.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/02/22 10:54 PM
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Let's review her terminology: She claims he "used" her. How? Well, he had sex with her. She no doubt enjoys this sex (if she continues letting him have at her time and time again) but she is addicted to what I refer to as Cavewoman Prostitution: The expectation that all sex with men is transactional. But here's the fundamental problem: The men that pay for sex are largely beta by definition meaning that even when she doesn't get "used", she feels like we do after filing out a hundred TPS reports…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/02/22 09:38 PM
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Hehehe. Another way of summing it up is the man brings the food, the plates, the drink, and the silverware to the table. She brings her (voracious) appetite.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/02/22 02:09 PM
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Dabrowski's Theory of Positive Disintegration Thank you. Interesting.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/02/22 02:02 PM
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From the FDS page. Reading their stuff is like staring at a solar eclipse: "Last, when it comes to "what do you bring to the table" for a woman, it is never money, building, cooking, cleaning or that other nonsense. Women should be bringing personality and standards. Men need to match up. Until they do, stay single."
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/02/22 04:39 AM
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Not the usual train wreck we see here. Her womanese dialect reminds me of the good ol’ days of online dating 30 years ago where they spoke in code. “Generous” = “You spend money on her.” So without further ado: “open minded” = Providing for another man’s kids. “selfless” = Your money is her money. “communicative” = She’s passive-aggressive. Enjoy the shit tests. “wise” = You’re established and successful. “patient” = We ALL know what this means: Beta bucks wait for sex. “balance priorities” = MY…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/02/22 12:54 AM
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Keep in mind that this is a dear friend of mine for 31 years. She didn't mean it as an insult or shaming ploy but rather her understanding of the term. She still liked me and enjoys my company even now. Her lesbian daughter invites me to her BBQs where I openly state, if asked and within politeness, that I think the 19th amendment granting women the vote was a mistake. She laughed her head off. Was I personally going to deny women the right to vote so why should she care or be upset up it? She'l…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/02/22 08:11 PM
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I considered this being a eugenics program as well with the concept of the beta males being serfs to an alpha male harem and in some ways, it turns out that way if beta bucks is marrying a single mother. I came to a similar conclusion to your first paragraph that beta males were respected on “effort” as part of a social program to pacify working class men. Without it, what incentive is there for men to, say, drive a truck or stock food in stores as we now see with the current labor crisis? Note …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/02/22 07:42 PM
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She said she wants a REAL MAN!!! Can't you read?!?! You know, like Superman. Or Jesus. Someone who has EVERYTHING to offer and loves a challenge. I'm reminded of Superman 3 which picks up after Superman 2 where Kal-El is still a bachelor whose lifestyle is helping out everyone else and picks up a romance with his childhood friend played by the lovely Anette O'Toole whose now a single mother whose ex-boyfriend is confronted by Superman and he makes her a homemade diamond and wife's her up via his…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/02/22 06:39 PM
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I went through all this 30 years ago. My elder generation woman friend said I was a "case of misogyny, bad" and they were right, but in hindsight, this was necessary for me to understand what was going on. She now would probably agree with my sentiment: Her son married a common American "bar girl" who turned out to be a drunk and when he asked her to clean up her act, she served him up with divorce papers. When she lost her bid for sole custody and alimony, she became bitter (15 years going on n…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/02/22 06:30 PM
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Thank you, kind sir, for that. I somehow missed it.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/02/22 06:20 PM
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I like your point regarding how feminism is different than the general "appropriation" concept. Didn't occur to me. On this forum, someone taught me the concept of "fallacy of composition". Women were told that if they appropriated masculinity, they'd have the similar powers that such men had in the past and particularly alpha males in the present. A half century ago, with 1/2 of the population in a secondary work role at home taking care of the kids, wages were higher and homes/education cost l…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/02/22 05:45 PM
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Thanks for educating me on a new term. For fun, google image "Puckbunny I want to be the stanley cup"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/02/22 06:46 PM
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Sort of like "foodie". It truly embodies this line from Kill Bill 2: "Just like all Yankee women, all you are good at is ordering in restaurants and spending a man's money!" -- Pai Mei "Netflix" isn't so bad in that at least it's largely "free". Watching Netflix with her is a lot cheaper than the triple combo at Applebee's. Heck, that's probably a great way to get laid on the cheap: "Hey, er, Hello! So... what's your favorite Netflix show? Care to come over?"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/02/22 06:17 PM
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Some interesting observations: She claims to be "giving up" but she's still there because she knows she has little other choice. She's disgusted with "low effort" "heys" on chats, but they still provide some measure of validation. As "tired" as she is of them, they give her hope. She wants more, but lacks ambition to achieve it (that's the man's job). Form a line. Her interests are pets, books and TV. TV is a mediocre interest to list on a profile since that means she knows how to turn one on an…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/02/22 04:14 PM
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Sir, that sounds like you just issued a fap challenge. I think you're up to it. Please report back to us if you can pull it off.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/02/22 04:06 PM
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Women often engage in behaviors that men who turned them on exhibit. Women crave confidence so men carefully displaying "bad boy" tendencies are a turn on as compared to men bragging about his prestigious job. Tattoos, for example, from men say "I can put a hideous design on myself. I engage in reckless behavior because that's what warriors who took on thousands of concubines a millennia ago did." She finds it "hawt." So she spends $100 and puts a star design on her hand. That makes her pretty t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/02/22 04:05 PM
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Thanks to modern technology, this can be done (for the sake of the child.) From google: "From week seven of pregnancy through the first trimester, you can get a noninvasive prenatal paternity test. During this test, DNA is collected from the mother by a blood draw and from the father with a cheek swab. The samples are analyzed to compare the baby's and possible father's DNA"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/02/22 06:34 PM
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Well, many are. I met my future wife when I was 36 and we were both traditional and wanted marriage. But a few caveats: she was 10 years younger than me so that gave us time to have a courtship. Just as young women don't like being rushed into bed, I didn't want to be rushed into a relationship just because they had that need. I wouldn't meet this woman's demands so I'm effectively invisible to her anyway. The guys she wants at that age therefore are usually either dating younger women, or they …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/02/22 05:23 PM
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My daughter bears a striking resemblance to her grandmother. I read a story about a woman in England who was married and had a black baby and her husband was horrified. They did a DNA test and it was his and hers so what happened? It turned out the grandmother had slept with some black guy at a bar and got pregnant and then got quickly engaged to some other guy. She hoped it was his (it wasn't) and it was her personal secret for a half century. She spilled the beans this this happened. This make…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/02/22 05:15 PM
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I know a few single mothers who actually were good parents but there was a catch: They were highly educated, affluent, and had strong feelings of wanting to be a mother but this conflicted with their cultural socio-biological entitlement attitude towards men. So they adopted children and otherwise did a pretty good job. But I only knew a FEW women like this. The rest were train wrecks (to see an example of one such wreck, go on youtube and look up "by the way, woody allen is innocent". In genera…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/02/22 04:42 PM
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My theory on Chaddicts and modern women's general discontent: After millennia of "oppression", women are accustomed to being protected and managed. It's why they reject "the Patriarchy" but replace it with socialist sugar daddies. A responsible adult man who sees a woman whose not utterly worthless like some of the profiles we see here will go "Yeah, she's fat but she has a pretty face. I can bang" or "She's got a goofy face but a hot rack" and such. Also, men are expected to "keep it in our pan…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/02/22 05:26 PM
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It took about 15 seconds...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/02/22 04:20 AM
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I thought the same. There's a mental aspect of the woman's wall as well in that many 33 year old women are still quite lovely and could have a happy life, but they are mentally conditioned by their own entitlements and mental baggage. Mental "walls" are more like pits: One has to climb out of them. For men, the wall or pit, is rather having next to nothing. You hit maturity and told you've got to support yourself and ultimately a family in a culture that provides no respect whatsoever for doing …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/02/22 03:03 AM
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It's rather amusing that this shaming ploy only works on insecure men or the slur "boys". It depends upon their masculinity being defined on their ability to get sex provided by women. Women "make" men in their minds and if a man tries to walk away from her demands, she can scream "incel!!!!" It remains powerful. There's a strange point to the "real man" slur, though, in that men do need to evolve past boyhood and think about what they want to do with their life long term and this goes not only …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/02/22 07:20 PM
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Because it's a demand. Women think that REAL MEN like fulfilling her demands and the more demands she makes, the more attractive she is along with the more value he's demonstrated. She's doing him a favor by giving him things to do to please her and she's increasing her value. Win-Win! Why do they think this way? Because in the women's locker room, they compare notes and validate by how many demands they make and get met. A woman whose a 5 who gets 2X of her demands met is viewed more favorably …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/02/22 04:57 PM
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I agree. Didn't mean to imply otherwise. Just pointing out that IT is generally tougher than other fields including due to the mass influx of foreign labor and rolling layoffs. Generally, the managers go along with it because they just have outsourced consultants to manage instead of Americans.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/02/22 04:34 PM
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I'll give her a single compliment: She was "smart" enough to have hooked your son rather than have just had "fun" or started looking after leaving university when her social circle would have shrunk down to nil. Fact is Computer Science, unless one is in academics, can be one of the most stressful industries out there. It's full of cheap foreign labor driving the wages and working conditions into the toilet. Rolling layoffs. Hyper surveillance. Crazy hours to meet deadlines. Women generally get …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/02/22 01:30 AM
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There are a zillion news articles on the stock market and housing bubble booms and bubbles. I predict... rain! Not sure EXACTLY when it will happen though or where.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/02/22 10:30 PM
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They're still pretty young. Google HGH and some other stuff out there. Once they hit 21 or so, the bones stop growing. Google Leonid Stadnyk who had a disorder where he continued to grow for ideas. If I had a son, and he wasn't super chad, I wouldn't have him date in the states. He'd have to learn clown game. Get them some foreign language courses of places where there are still some decent women left and get them to travel ideally for school. Not that all would be into this, but the purpose of …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/02/22 10:28 PM
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When I had the gender reveal moment from the test, it was an emotional rush. If I had a son, it would be a different set of challenges but also motivations. Someone to get all the red pill wisdom I had to seek out and learn slowly. I'd pump him full of HGH and get him as tall as possible, vaccinate him against any blue pilled notions of masculine heroism and white knightism, and educate him on the importance of recognizing and finding a good woman.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/02/22 09:06 PM
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Here's another way of putting it: Imagine how many children die from botched kidnappings. Imagine if there was a law that said that if a kidnapper returned a child, safely, they wouldn't be prosecuted but they they harmed the child, they'd be sought out to the full extent the police can engage. So there you have it! Police then would have more resources to chase down murderous kidnappers and there would be an incentive to return children safely. Sounds like a win-win, yes? But there just seems t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/02/22 06:57 PM
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We shall see. I recall that the USSR collapse came as a complete surprise to so many people too.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/02/22 05:36 PM
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As a parent, here's my experience: My daughter is sort of like a validation ticket. The flight attendants dote over her, women give me sweet looks, I get priority boarding on the plane, and so on. My daughter is (I think) cute and I catch some of that attention. But here's the thing: When someone at a restaurant says "You're daughter is so pretty!" I smile and say thank you and tease them: "You can babysit ANYTIME!" They laugh and smile and go back to eating. Women mistake attention for commitme…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/02/22 05:28 PM
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I was just thinking that in the past, back when women were "oppressed", a single mother such as this would be "pushed" to think: "You know, a stable provider whose willing to raise some other guy's kids can probably be a bit shorter and younger than me. My selfish hypergamy can be shelved for the best interests of my child." Nope. She's going to insist upon a lifeboat away from the sinking ship with leather seats, a bar, and a flat screen TV or she's not getting in. I'm reminded of an ex of mine…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/02/22 04:43 PM
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I'm a father of a girl and this stuff hits me hard. Yeah, she's bragging "I bring some other man's child to the table! Here you go!" but still, it's just wrong to post a baby in a dating profile. In the 1950's, CPS would have seen something like this and taken the child away.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/02/22 04:37 PM
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This woman hasn't yet hit the wall, or has she? What makes this post interesting is that she's clearly on the way. All the signs are there: Her crass entitlement attitude combined with a set of physical features that appear destined to not age well. She's demanding a handsome clown to entertain her offering nothing more than an average face. That's not to say that there aren't women (or men) out there who would be happy with no-strings-attached sex and entertainment from members of the opposite …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/02/22 04:16 PM
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I like what one (good) woman said about marriage; She said it wasn't 50:50 but rather 100:100. Both sides put their best into it. Prostitution has become the norm for generations now hence it's difficult to even criticize it because it appears to now be "traditional" values. There's a joke that goes that conservatism is just leftism going the speed limit.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/02/22 02:26 PM
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I agree with you, actually. The collapse of the west is due to the failure of conservative limited government ideology just as much as Gorbachev oversaw the collapse of the USSR. Trump failed to overturn "the swamp" because he was a conservative, not in spite of it.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/02/22 02:23 PM
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Declining birth rates are not a big deal for an industrial population PROVIDED the society is otherwise healthy. A two parent family having 3 kids instead of, say, 8 to keep the farms well stocked wasn't a problem where increased yields on farms meant that fewer people were needed to grow food to feed themselves and others. In the west, particularly the USA, corporations have been addicted to cheap labor (the best is free) since the founding while the left wants more voters. So it's a win-win to…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/02/22 04:02 AM
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Google "drawing attention to the plight of jewish untouchables". Based stuff. "Yet by solving one problem the law creates others, as the story of Tamar goes on to reveal. When she eventually separates from the biological father of her youngest child, she cannot demand alimony from him in court since he is not registered as the father. Because he is not registered as the father, neither does he have any custody rights over the child." Welcome to equality, ladies.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/02/22 01:22 AM
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This ties into what feminism supposedly promised men to begin with: That when women had their own source of income, and were no longer oppressed by The Patriarchy, they would become responsible adults no longer needed to engage in pay for play. That seems to laughably naive and foolish in hindsight as if that would ever happen. Women who sleep with chads trying to gain commitment from them are sort of like (naive) drug dealers who give away free weed to folks who already have plenty of free weed…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/01/22 06:52 PM
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I thought the same. Here's the thing: OnlyFans largely is about women milking SIMPs (not shaming the men, just saying that seems to be what's going on) and these women are not interested in dating their clients. So the guy is getting to bang a woman that other men pay for her to pretend to like them. So yeah, don't invest emotionally or financially on her. Heck, let HER share her OF income with him as a kind of virtual pimp. Have fun, indeed!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/01/22 06:43 PM
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The controversial suggestion during welfare reform during the Clinton presidential era was to put them into orphanages. There was a remake of a classic film of the time that comes to mind: "Cheaper by the Dozen". The best bang for a welfare buck isn't to reward mothers to raise children in poverty but rather institutionalize them. Yes, that sounds awful and classic literature portrays orphanages as awful places (Dickens in particular) but compared to unwed mothers raising children in the inner c…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/01/22 06:06 PM
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I'll add ONE more thing (I sound like Columbo, which dates me. :-) There is a natural consequence of legal prohibitions that the children of sinners suffer in that those who live lawful lives of virtue tend to do better, and therefore have resources for their children, as compared to sinners/criminals whose children suffer. It's also a reward for virtuous living in that fathers tend to clean up their acts (stop behaving as recklessly) because they want to care for their children. So in that rega…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/01/22 05:07 PM
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I don't want to get into a theological debate (I don't see no debates on the Rules anymore but I'll stick with that sentiment.) I'll add some additional Biblical/Torah observations: The bastard child of an affair ("Mamzer") progeny would be banned from marrying into the community for 10 generations (which is a long time). My point is that there is no legal consequence for adultery or having a bastard child out of marriage. By the time of Jesus, stoning for adultery was rare and some "reforms" we…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/01/22 04:24 PM
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I'm not into fried squirrel, possum stew, or pigs feet casserole but certainly some are. There's some tall, aging bikers out on probation living in a halfway house that can probably plow this field for the fun of it. I wish them well and hope they use (lots) of protection.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/01/22 03:48 PM
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That's a neat summation of the thinking I've heard both legally and from people defending throwing the cucked-father to the wolves. I was just thinking about a similar scenario this morning about Jesus intervening in the stoning of a convicted adulteress. It sounds so nice and hopeful in that a woman was about to be stoned to death and Jesus saves her by calling out the sins of the others in the crowd. But isn't that Jesus largely engaging in moral equivalence on a slippery slope to nihilism? "T…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/01/22 03:41 PM
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Hehehe. Thanks for that quote, it makes me chuckle that she's lying about that too. Imagine someone who watches the travel channel and fine dining experiences and thinks "I could get used to that" and tries to demand via quid-pro-quo prostitution that her potential sugar daddy provide them. In the meantime, she's eating at McD's and living in a trailer. So she's really "used" to a lesser lifestyle and miserable about it. A friend of mine from Africa said that people where he grew up were general…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/01/22 04:02 PM
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I was thinking of my own life in that back in July, I was going through my wife's phone to edit her settings and stumbled across some long whatsapp chats she had with a work colleague. No big deal, (nothing sexy) but my spider sense tingled. So I looked through some of her photos and found a selfie that was rather suggestive in her room from a few months earlier and she was trying on different outfits (with the price tags still on). I went through my feelings on what to do about this. Should I k…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/01/22 12:51 AM
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The timing of reading this story is interesting. My uncle just passed away a week ago and relatives are dispensing his estate. Gossip from my mother is that after divorce he lived like a hermit and hoarder (appears to run in that side of my family, his aunt also was a hoarder). His wife decided to divorce him for whatever reason (bored) about 25 years ago and got alimony. We just found out she remarried and never changed her last name and collected $500 a month alimony from him for 25 years perh…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/01/22 11:46 PM
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I wonder if the wealthy are products of generations of this culture as well. Keep in mind that the useful idiots of the past who were brainwashed by dishonest professors become the professors of the future who take what they thought was truth (the idiocy of their previous teachers) and try to trick the young kids with even more idiocy and so on. It kind of reminds me of a rumor mill where by the time the actual event has been re-interpreted by members of the chain to the point where the story is…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/01/22 04:28 AM
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Keep in mind women couldn't easily divorce men for cash and prizes: "Fault" divorce required someone to prove at fault and if it was the man he'd pay alimony and vice-versa, the women would lose a lot if she was at fault. This is still the case in some states and there was this fantastic Entrepreneurs in Cars episode where a guy said he paid something like 60 grand to a private detective to follow his ex-wife around and collect (legally admissible) evidence of adultery, drug use, and child negle…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/01/22 04:25 AM
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It is oftentimes profitable but it's hit and miss. "Boys" who never grow up stay that way and sadly, lacking incentive to bother developing themselves to just pay "child" support, work under the table or even go on welfare themselves. Prisons offer free room and board, taxpayer funded, to bad boys. The logic of the child-support system is that a bad-boy is reckless and charming enough to sleep around with multiple women and knock them up but also reliable enough to work at a good job and pay the…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/01/22 07:36 PM
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It's sort of funny that the feminist narrative sort of blows up on them. If men oppressed women ages ago and "patriarchal oppression" is due to socially imposed roles, then they've recklessly played with fire by tearing down what has turned out to be a system of entitlements that looking back will be as historical as the fall of the Roman Senate. Boys bonded with their mothers if only due to him being raised as an infant by them hence a father wouldn't beat the mother of his beloved son casually…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/01/22 07:32 PM
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There are men who aren't "good" in the sense of being fathers, but they provide "tingles". Women have been taught for generations to take "good" men for granted or as an entitlement "real man". But the shaming term "real man" itself implies that there's an effort to transitioning from boyhood to "manhood" as a father. "Boys" are fun, while "men" are pragmatic, coarse, or serious. Back in the late 80's, I was puzzled that when I demonstrated my manly sentiments of wanting a family and children on…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/01/22 05:39 PM
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I'm reminded of levels of game in poker: A beginner understands the value of his hand. The slightly more experienced player tries to figure out how good their OPPONENT'S hand is. The expert tries to figure out what their opponent thinks HIS hand is. When more men meet moderate or expert level, they play being the sap that she can get beta bucks from and she'll give him sex to hook him. He then pretends to be worthless because he can't hold a job, or help babysit the kids, and she dumps him and p…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/01/22 05:20 PM
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You have a good point, but keep in mind that these "master manipulators" are left holding the bag with 2 kids with absent fathers and often under economic stress. I was chuckling that an 1980's hacker said in a recent article: "The best hackers we don't know about because they never get caught."
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/01/22 05:10 PM
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I want to add that in the context of early dating, generally people (rarely) ask anyone to change really. They utilize identification and rejection to achieve that end. Young women even seem to believe that men should naturally be made to comply with her expectations "Real Man". When he doesn't comply, she uses such language. But if such men were already "Real Men", why would they need to be shamed? Change is an essential part to our human existence and relationships. Circumstances change (we ha…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/01/22 04:22 PM
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Regarding men being hardwired to give life and money to women: That's debatable. Western society is chivalrous towards women but this concept is relatively recent and other cultures are notoriously different. Heck, feminists used to try to justify their victim entitlements by comparing me to men from other cultures. It's hilarious that these EXACT SAME WOMEN now toe the leftist party line of claiming that those patriarchal men are victims of western colonialism or discrimination. The joke goes t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/01/22 03:50 PM
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I think the family court system laws go back to the late 19th century. I don't know the history of how or who set them up. Was it a product of 1st wave feminism? I recall reading that Napoleon's wife was cheating on him but he had to just grin and bear it because the French revolution ideology family court laws of the time gave her goodies similar to the modern era.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/01/22 03:03 PM
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This i yet another way that men oppress women: We generally have an easier time getting our rocks off and heck, even our lower attraction demands are a fundamental advantage, really. Modern women are condemned to unsatisfying sex because men aren't all handsome, rich, mind readers, and able to go for a straight hour to do what it takes to get her off while she lies there. Like so many things in life, there are some things you have to take responsibility for. Fun allegory: A wealthy investor I wa…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/01/22 02:25 AM
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This gets me to thinking about the feminist boogyman "The Patriarchy" Either a single group of powerful men (they claim to be liberating us all from) or ALL men, they yet appear to be far more enslaved to a group hivemind NONE of them have responsibility for. Check out The Abilene Paradox.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/01/22 02:10 AM
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A friend I've fallen out of touch with told me of his adventures working in Saudi Arabia. The ex-pat westerners would make bathtub wine by buying welch's grape juice and fermenting it with yeast. Poland has a lot of great fermented fruit products including plum sherry. But I heard the King of good alcohol is the Czech republic for the variety of such products.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/01/22 10:15 PM
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"Women were still forced to make some effort." Back in the late 80's, it was already collapsing. By "some effort" in that they were willing to "settle" a bit and merely marry a guy who earned as much as them, or at least as tall (not 5'1" chasing after 6'4" basketball players) and such. I think that was the last hurrah of traditional dating. If not for OLD in the 90's and early 00's, I think the collapse would have happened SOONER. Due to Anita Hill, men stopped approaching women in the workplac…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/01/22 10:06 PM
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I rather liked the way the OP referred to the primary reason she wanted to scuttle a healthy relationship as "sexual connection". It's my guess that's "the tingles". If the guy was totally horrid, she wouldn't have dated him in the first place. The reality of life is that she's not getting any younger and neither are the guys she desires. The "train" for tingle chad came and left in her 20's. This scenario reminds me of the film "Shallow Hal" that portrayed a plain looking Jack Black who couldn'…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/01/22 09:32 PM
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The problem is that daddy government has been stretched to the limits: There's cheap labor immigration (and the cost of such in all the programs to raise their kids.) Effectively, a career woman today including one of the single mothers by sperm bank above are just as saddled up as many married men providing for a SAH wife. Wages are lower due to more workers, costs are higher, and the state needs more money to deal with the fallout: The high crime rates, prisons, infrastructure collapse, debt m…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/01/22 08:27 PM
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Let's consider where this is going: We've seen generations of women get worse and worse over time doubling down on bad "grasshopper" philosophies of partying when they're young and expecting the male ant to give them a bailout in winter. The philosophy of female entitlement excludes them taking responsibility for their actions and saying: "It appears this woman is 37 and her train has left the station. Young women, take notes, and don't make the same mistakes. Treat decent men better." On the co…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/01/22 08:23 PM
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Married 20 years. I have had all the sex I could ever need. I like sex, don't get me wrong, but "need?" A lot of it is emotional. Consider the pandemic: We don't think about hunger often but when you go to a store and see bare shelves, it's quite unsettling isn't it? I don't think about food because I know it's there. I don't need sex because I know it's there. Also, if I ever "needed" sex, then my wife would lose respect for me. Even in marriage, I need to use game because if me being more masc…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/01/22 06:58 PM
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Most of women's equality was granted by the elites who had been immune to the blowback of these policies or even benefitted from them. For example: lower wages and higher consumption from women entering the workforce made the wealthy men and politicians more powerful and wealthy. Now with West Elm Caleb, hollywood celebs, and business moguls getting trashed by divorce court and the same blowback that normal schmucks such as ourselves get, perhaps there will be some movement.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/01/22 06:49 PM
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I read a disturbing story that college teens, particularly women, are drinking to the point of passing out more regularly. I remember back in college I puked out once. It was NOT a pleasant experience and I never did it again. I didn't care if I was mocked as a loser who couldn't drink more. Someone wrote up an interesting story (wish I saved it) about an anthropologist studying something else where the island culture regularly drank to excess to pass out, people took care of each other, and thi…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/01/22 06:37 PM
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The problem is that women refuse to see the difference between dating for sex versus dating for marriage. Dating for sex means that she can make more demands because such men have lower standards. A guy who wants to have a one night stand isn't going to mind if she's a selfish attention whore. It's not like he has to put up with her for years. She interprets his interest as her getting a fish on the hook and thinks she can parlay that into marriage. It's sort of like women treat chads the way th…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/01/22 06:33 PM
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There seem to be a lot of Jedi Knights posting today. :-) That's sort of the problem, really: By women just getting "love" offered to them, they both cheapen it and limit their choices in men. Lots of men don't want to do game and hit on hundreds of girls in the hopes of getting laid or a "relationship". It was pretty bad in the 1950's and today, it's even worse. This whole paradigm was broken from the start. Marriages were arranged before then. If a woman really "looked" for love, and for super…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/01/22 06:29 PM
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I hate it when someone else beats me to a point. Darn you! :-) Yeah, women are playing the sex-for-attention game and they love it when they're winning but then when they run out of quarters they want to "get real" OR they want to keep playing the game but demand the rules change to suit them. I know women who "settled". They settled for a schmuck taking them out to Applebee's and his clumsy beta game and they're still happily married years later. I'm reminded of the scene in The Sopranos where …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/01/22 06:23 PM
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In Taylor the Fiend's recent video, he tears apart the advice women give each other on how to land men. One of the most hilarious is when women advise: "Just as women love for men to pay for things, men find happiness in paying and providing for a woman." This is laughable and self-centered where someone concludes that because they like someone else doing something for them, that MUST mean the other person LIKES doing that. If a man was to say that because we like women picking up after our mess…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/01/22 04:56 PM
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My theory: Notice how there's an obesity epidemic: Good times make weak men (and women). If you have access to cars and calculators, you get fat and lousy at math. I just got a Christmas letter back because my millennial niece didn't forward her mail after moving. They sent out their wedding invitations with the stamp in the LEFT corner. Another doesn't know what the "bottom/top of the hour" means. Feminism is the notion that aside from physical differences, women and men are the same but this i…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/01/22 04:53 PM
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There's a lot about stories such as the above that I find sad because the way the culture is set up, honest conversation is difficult. What you did carries a risk that by telling women your honest feelings, they might get angry and try to dox you or worse like West Elm Caleb. So the smart thing to do is smash and let them think they're rejecting you. Cry about a problem at work, or how you worry whether women like you, or compliment them a LOT and they'll ghost you in 10 seconds. "Share your fee…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/01/22 03:39 PM
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Sorry, but you triggered me by mentioning the Pinto. Yeah, it's a death trap but now a classic car precisely because not too many of them left on the road which makes it Uber Cool. Most new cars look alike or even horrid (such as the latest Masarati sedan) I had a discussion about this with my old lady and a woman friend at work whose a classic Waller. My wife got disgusted with my observation that new cars are uninteresting and she tried to say "But... it's the BRAND!" The Post Waller said "It'…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/01/22 03:53 PM
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You're sort of close, but I think you're not quite there. You say "they are more reluctant to admit". That's a fancy way of saying they're in denial. It's a subtle distinction as to women demanding men have wealth (or spend it on her) versus being turned off if a man leads with his wealth. It's particularly strange because it's the opposite of what they like to believe about themselves: If a woman sleeps with a guy because he took her to Dubai, that in many people's opinion is an act of prostitu…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/01/22 05:13 PM
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This begs the philosophical question as to what is "submissive"? If a woman has sex, even degrading sex, with a very attractive man that would impress her social circle, then she's gaining social credibility from him. In most hookups, the woman gets either gifts, paid food, validation, entertainment, or from chads, social status. I know someone who claims her grade school teacher slept with JFK. Even if gave JFK a BJ, she gained social status from the sexual act (otherwise how would her students…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/01/22 05:28 PM
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Thank you. Dzienkuje.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/01/22 04:48 PM
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Good point, with one caveat: I think most men like being nice guys (and by nice guy, I don't mean a wimp.) Yes, when we're children we're barbarians but that thug life will eventually one in jail (and this happens a lot) but for healthy chads, I think they enjoy being decent human beings otherwise. Most of the chads I know were naturally charming and likable because they had led lives where they could afford to be nice and not get penalized as appearing "weak" by women. The Dream for women is to…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/01/22 03:49 PM
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The utopian ideal of the 1950's is neatly expressed by the series The Jetsons where George only had to work a 9 hour week and Jane as a housewife had a bevy of robotic servants (including I think a roomba) and went out to the shopping mall all day. It was ok because even if George was doing all the work, it was a relatively easy life. (That was fiction of course). The average real family of the 1950's lived a spartan lifestyle by today's standards but it was also more comfortable and easy going.…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/01/22 02:26 PM
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I find it interesting how having lots of money doesn't gain much for men in basic attractiveness in day/night game. A man who leads with his money will perhaps attract golddiggers, such as this woman (and this is probably what happened), or otherwise, drives off the other women who are no less hypergamous, but don't want to be seen as "desperate" in that HER money makes her INDEPENDENT and "it's my business" (note her using that kind of wording often.) This is because such women think their acce…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/01/22 12:13 AM
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My friend who works in the financials industry says the best time to sell a stock isn't at the peak, but just BEFORE it because of the time and volume it takes to clear the transaction. Otherwise, you "chase it down." Imagine Xstock is selling for a peak of $100. You try to sell then but sell offer is rejected since it's now at $99. So you drop it to $99 and now it's $98. And so on... The truth is to get that full $100 would be quite a challenge. If you're selling a single share, sure, it goes t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/01/22 12:02 AM
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It's a rather interesting comparison of the hypergamous dangers of helping one's mate succeed. For women, say, who help their husband become a doctor he becomes more attractive and therefore, might dump her for a more desirable woman. She's still as desirable as she was before, but now "he can do better." It has happened, rarely, and this is the rationalization for why the divorce laws are so overprotective of women. But let's consider it the other way around: A man helps his wife become more su…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/01/22 11:49 PM
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I think he could have asked she pay her share and let the police handle the squabble. If she called him a bum trying to cheat her, why shouldn't he demand she pay for her share. So to get the free meal, she had to take a risk that he'd pay her back. And THEN, with her already invested, she risked having him just walk away from the debt if she refused to have sex with him. This is a reverse of what women do to men, BTW, where he asks her out, pays, and she tries to string him along for multiple p…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/01/22 10:28 PM
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And all this reasoning is a huge joke to begin with. Living with a guy whose bringing in $600K a year is like living like a queen for all that time. She'd have gotten a nanny and expensive childcare services. She'd have taken luxury vacations. In Silicon Valley, $60K is POVERTY level. It's $2K a month for a studio crack shack. She was about to go from being Cinderella to a princess and she was claiming that's a sacrifice. And that's perhaps what triggered his attitude to dump her so quickly. She…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/01/22 10:13 PM
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I wish I had pdf'd it, but a long time ago there was a woman who wrote a story about how she went on a date with a hot looking guy and he took her to a nice restaurant and went to pay for everything but... his credit card was declined. He apologized profusely and said he'd pay her back. Now what position was she in? If she balked and got nasty about it, she'd be stuck going "dutch" so she paid up in the hopes of getting paid back. Then he takes her home and sleeps with her. Again, now if she got…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/01/22 10:02 PM
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I had a similar story in my life. I didn't make $600K, but as a tech worker making good money at the time 25 years ago I was a "catch" for a 33 year old manager of the local Denny's. She flaked on me a few times but I passed the shit tests and after nookie, she started sharing her life plan: She wanted me to buy her a $10,000 diamond engagement ring, nice car and home, and she'd plop out kids after "sacrificing" her career. I was expected to be grateful and "man up". I argued with her for a bit …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/01/22 09:51 PM
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I'll beg to differ on this claim. Young women have the highest SMV in their lives and this sets the narrative for them moving forward in life where she "brings the table" which is a place for him to deposit resources. Aside from perhaps making themselves up to be pretty for a date, they otherwise strive to put as little "forward" as they can to impress their hivemind women friends social circle. Women don't date men, they "date" their social circle expectations. This works out for them when they…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/01/22 09:28 PM
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30 years ago, the hypergamy was lighter but I was still yet disgusted by it. If a career woman made so much as $1 more than me, or had a better degree, or was 1/4" taller, then I was nothing. They wanted a "romantic" relationship of full love where they always had to "get more" no matter what. And the funny part? Those women were REASONABLE compared to what the young men go through today. I suppose that once one let's the camel's nose of hypergamy into the tent, you get the whole thing pretty qu…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/01/22 07:18 PM
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Another chad story. A colleague of mine, whom I really need to say hi to (been a long time), was going to the company paid event where we'd all get family tickets to the amusement park. I wanted to score some extra tickets to take friends. The local office ho's said no when I asked so I sent in the 6'5" tall, part-time nursing student, part time MBA student, part-time sysadmin to plead my case. He came out smiling and handed me 4 additional tickets to take my friends. I thanked him profusely. He…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/01/22 04:35 AM
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You told this story before but it's ok. My father told the same jokes a hundred times. They were funny each time. Anyhoo, I think I told you the story of my Chad who slept with some gal who worked at a ski resort he visited every year and then after the week was over, he went home and she felt like he "used her" and the next year he went there to the bar and all the guys were wearing "eff you Drake" buttons and he was drake and he wore a button and charmed the whole bar. She was hoping they'd dr…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/01/22 04:30 AM
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Yes and no. For a brief period of time, the "traditional romance" narrative worked between 1920 and 1980. There was a supply of higher earning men and women were told to marry young. Men couldn't get laid without sex and women knew they'd have to "settle." Consider how today women consider it oppression for something human beings understand for the past zillion years. You want to be an astronaut? OK... great. But you aren't up to it so you become a manager of a tire repair service center. Is it …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/01/22 04:22 AM
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I have a 5 year old. She's not stupid but she's human. And I love her for it. Women aren't "stupid" but the theory goes they are driven by surface valuations as to what value is. For example: You see someone wearing Adidas at the gym. Are they a Soviet athlete or just a Slavic guy with a dad body like me? Women are smart in that they strive to conform to the social expectations of the women and media around them. Consider advertising. Remember when beer commercials promised men that we'd be hot …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/01/22 04:16 AM
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In the states, also anyone can apply for these positions but there are certain qualifying pre-tests that are asked the applicant has to fill out such as whether they've previously managed a financial institution, have they ever reviewed a corporate balance sheet, etc. Based on that COMPUTERIZED exam, if they don't get enough points to continue, the computer itself throws it into the MS Windows recycling bin. It doesn't even reach a human. Of course, they can LIE on the exam but then that's class…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/01/22 04:40 AM
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About 20 years ago, I sized up my competition on the dating apps and saw a profile from a doctor, who appeared to be a nice guy, but 5'4". I think to myself that even THAT guy would run from the train wreck that this woman represents but nonetheless, she's got the chutzpah to try to make demands as if she's some virgin at 26 and her kids are assets as others pointed out. That she can engage in normal hypergamy similar to someone taking back a box of beer to the store, with most of the bottles mi…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/01/22 04:36 AM
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Some people need that painful reminder by actually handling cash to remind them of the value of things. It didn't make a huge difference to me. But my wife is a bit like Rainman in that she doesn't seem to understand how little things add up. I find it amazing myself that I get a credit card bill per month of at least a grand and it's full of small purchases: Going to the grocery store, gas, a few toys for the child, coffee. They all add up. It means that I exercise discipline in that saving a f…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/01/22 08:21 PM
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It doesn't just happen with the woman. I was chuckling at a recent news story about a guy who got student loan forgiveness after 10 years of working in some category and griped that it held his life back all that time. It wasn't for a lot of money. The total loan was $60,000.00 Now think about it: That sounds like a car loan. The guy let his life go on hold because, with a degree, he couldn't pay off a debt that many plumbers would pay off in under 5 years. It's even more amusing at how he suffe…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/01/22 06:42 PM
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It did occur to me that her mother, who basically followed the traditional hypergamy career woman route of marrying a man who earned at least as much as she did, worked for her because she did this at the peak: Her Baby Boomer husband was one of a lot of men with good paying jobs and there were still relatively few career women back then compared to now. My relative implied, I don't know if she was joking or not, that she wanted alpha bucks. She is hot, and successful, but will this be enough wh…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/01/22 06:37 PM
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In all fairness, the cow is out of the barn so to speak and this is the situation overall with women today: By the time they start asking these questions, they've already done the deed. It's like asking if you should have eaten that donut after you've eaten it. That's one of the few benefits to being a man: Life is super tough, on super hard mode, but at least by the time we're in our late 20's we have some perspective and can act upon it. We still have less than women do at that age, but we're …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/01/22 02:09 AM
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I've been off-market for 21 years, but in theory, I'd just go for it because if she's engaged in common slut-denial/shit-tests, one might as well because otherwise one signals he's a beta male chump and even if she puts out later, she's going to disrespect him. That's the point of shit tests really which is that if the man passes/ignores them, he signals he's "alpha" in her mind. Women lack an objective compass to determine value so they rely upon tests. Think of it as similar to college diploma…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/01/22 01:59 AM
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I mean that back then, pre-red pill, it was a different time. Heck, I've read here that some consider 2004 to be radically different than dating today which makes sense. Say, 1960 was a very different era compared to 1975. Back then, men would have taken a woman at her literal word that if she was not going to have sex with a man, ever, he'd believe her. Perhaps women who said such a thing back then were engaging in false slut-shaming or shit-tests and men just didn't realize it or it just wasn'…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/01/22 07:56 PM
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About 30 years ago on USENET discussion forum, women were claiming that dinner dates weren't about men buying women food to get at sex. "A gentleman doesn't think that way!" they said. So men on the forum proposed in response that she state unequivocally that she was going to friendzone him from the beginning, no sex, and that would be a "gentleman test." At the time, and this is a long time ago (to people today, this was like Back to the Future going back to the early 1950's!), we thought men w…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/01/22 04:31 PM
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So it's a recent word. Interesting. I'm going to use the term fsck and wait for someone to spell flame me and then say: 'That's the way I MEANT to spell it!" FSCK: "FileSystem ChecK"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/01/22 12:30 AM
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Women consider plastic surgery itself to be a status symbol amongst other women which puts it similar to tattoos in some contexts. Tats and piercings don't necessarily make women more attractive but they are a sign of acceptance towards those who also want them or think they're "cool". Or perhaps she saw other models who had puffed lips who were getting paid well so she felt she had to do it. The theory goes that women largely lack an inner standard to judge value so they feel a need to conform …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/01/22 10:24 PM
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This is one of the best type posts on this forum and that's saying something. From the wonderful observations below and reading between the lines above, it appears what happened is that she suckered in a beta bucks with the "religious, chaste girl" act and blue balls to get him to commit. Her lie was one of omission most likely. She appears to have scrubbed her own social media and gotten most of her friends to go along up to that point. This reminds me of the "born again virgin" episode of King…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/01/22 08:13 PM
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I had cops try to use this tactic on me (in a rather crude way that I saw through) where they'd pretend to express sympathy or joking around to get me to let me guard down and confess something stupid.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/01/22 07:49 PM
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Aside from the wonderful points you made, thank you for using the term "fisk". I thought you might be a tech geek as in I use the term "fsck" for a similar purpose. Turns out to be an actual word. Much thanks.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/01/22 07:47 PM
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I'm chuckling a bit in that if she had discovered photos of him with hot women, perhaps she would have gotten the hots for him via pre-selection and had more sex with him.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/01/22 07:41 PM
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Times change, but back in the 90's, most of the women in my socio-economic sphere didn't get a lot of attention including the decent looking ones. "Metoo" was Anita Hill back then and most men didn't hit on women at work. Aside from risking losing your job, you'd only get one or two chances and then the rest of the women would know. It's not like a club where different talent is coming in and don't talk to each other. So what did most bourgeoisie career women do? Went to work, then went to the g…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/01/22 03:36 PM
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Perhaps non-American women don't do this, but Roosh's rule is that if a woman brings up the topic of sex, including that she's bothered by men asking her for it, that's her "slut denial" signal that she likes sex but doesn't want to come out and say it like that. It's also as DearChickPea says below, beta-filter shit test. An alpha is supposed to ignore it and do what you did: make a funny quip back and escalate. Nonetheless, I'm surprised you chatted her up if she was beneath your standards AND…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/01/22 03:12 PM
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Google "male female ratio online dating sites" Eharmony and Bumble are listed as having a better ratio. This begs the question as to why men would even bother using a dating app with a 9:1 male:female ratio. Perhaps because like the bars, it's a hookup app, men hope to get lucky and there's a low individual cost of participating?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/01/22 03:04 PM
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What I rather like about the study is that it didn't just compare men's and women's ability to procure sex from strangers but included asking for dates as a form of control. If none of the women were willing to date the guy, that would have undermined the case that the women were rejecting him for sex regardless of his attractiveness.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/01/22 02:49 PM
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"OnLine Dating"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/01/22 02:46 PM
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Good point. This begs the question then... what happens to 8:9 of these women? Do they get abducted by aliens? (which is probably the best chance they have to land a chad :-) or do they actually settle for some beta? Or do they drop out entirely after getting some precious, precious "validation" and narcissistic supply only to return perhaps a few months later for a refill?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/01/22 04:21 AM
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Danger Will Robinson!!! A cautionary tale: My wife's hair stylist is a pretty Russian single mother who got divorced because her ex had a steroid addiction. (Now THAT'S one danger of dating chads, I suppose :-)) So anyhoo, she had a shallow golddigger mentality. When she did eventually get married, she didn't invite my wife because we were renting at the time and she didn't want someone who rented to attend (nevermind she rented at the time she met her husband.) She met the guy online and he's a…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/01/22 04:18 AM
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Single mothers are in quite a pickle compared to normal women who can at least exploit men for free food and drink. Single mothers gripe about having to find a babysitter and some may actually wind up paying more for the babysitter than she gets in free microwaved ribs at Applebee's. So there she is, sitting all pretty and made up, munching down on the "free" food, and it seems like the guy likes her and she likes him of course and he's asking her about her interests and she feels like she's wal…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/01/22 04:05 AM
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I think that some of the platforms have a less extreme ratio. Perhaps 2:3 female:male. The problem is similar to non-OLD in that when men do (nearly) all the asking out, and the number of approaches it takes to get a date even IRL is at least 5 approaches for 1 date, an average woman is going to think that she's hot stuff because on average she's getting hit on by 5X more than guys are getting results. Even without natural female hypergamy, women getting hit on drives up their self-perceived SMV…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/01/22 03:41 AM
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It's my theory that the golden era of "traditional" dating was between 1920 to 1980 or about 3 generations. The collapse has gone about 2 generations so far. Before 1920, no father would have let his daughter go out on an unescorted date because she could have gotten pregnant or a "reputation". Even now, this is still a bad idea as we see The Pill failures happening regularly. Women "met" men through the church, school, community dances and events where the local men would see her, ask if it was…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/01/22 03:25 AM
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I addressed that above. Here's another way of putting it: Modern women don't date men, they "date" their status in their social circle. It's women who feel a need to impress other women in their version of "the locker room." So to offset the shame that they "had" to go OLD, they offset it by saying: "Well, I wouldn't SETTLE for less than a CHAD so that makes me still better than you! All you got from being asked out normally is a 6' tall guy who earns $100K a year! I INSISTED in OLD that the guy…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/01/22 03:17 AM
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Hehehe, thinking about how the future is different than we thought it would be, we don't have flying cars. I thought OLD would make dating easier for men by eliminating the risk of rejection but also placing some of the burden on women. In the 80's, women were playing the "I'm not interested in marriage or a relationship at all" game as a shit test. OLD at least requires women to admit they want to date. It's my theory that to compensate for the admission that they are desperate enough to use OL…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/01/22 03:57 PM
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Have you ever read "King Thrushbeard?" Google and read. Hilarious. The fundamental problem is that young women simply don't have a lot to time to grow up and escape delusional thinking as compared to doubling down into it. For men, including myself, we can spend a decade to "find ourselves" because we have greater commitments to live up to. So I got engaged when I was 35 to a woman 10 years my junior. Those 10 years were useful for me to do the soul searching to be the leader of my family but fo…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/01/22 09:14 PM
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I had a fun discussion with a first responder on facebook who claims that he has seen pets devour their owners when someone checked up on them after a few days. I remain skeptical because house cats are notoriously fussy eaters who prefer small game. He had said cats AND DOGS were in the house, so I suspect the dog did it (dogs will eat nearly anything.)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/01/22 06:01 PM
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I 1/2 agree with you with the caveat that Joker at BetterBachelor says: "Fish can't advise fishermen (or even other fish) how to be caught." The key is "smallest amount of thought". For women, the experience of how she meets a man is almost if not sometimes more important than the man she lands. She wants to be the princess in the castle whose vital signs are lower than a houseplant with the man scaling the castle walls. Many are in love with that narrative than the actual relationship itself. "…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/01/22 05:58 PM
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I know a woman who looks like Barbie, has a great work ethic, cooks and cleans, and is easy to be around. She went to online dating because the reality is that she doesn't know how to meet men and her feminine mind can't learn the skill. Aside from going to work, seeing the same people every day, and being with her relatives, she's effectively a princess locked up in a castle. Think about how such a woman met a man in the fairy tales: Guys scaling up random parapets and towers hoping there are p…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/01/22 04:51 PM
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The film "Gentlemen Prefer Blondes" is one of the most entertaining romantic comedies out there, but also so poisonous that it should have been censored. A lot of women took Monroe's character seriously that being a materialistic gold-digging bimbo was a perfectly valid life choice. At least in the film, Monroe's character seeking a wealthy man was young, childless and even had some talents (singing.) There was also a dark undertone to the film which most women of the era recognized: Monroe's ch…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/01/22 04:45 PM
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The problem with car repairs is I don't have a decent lift setup (I'm thinking of getting something) so I can do some basic stuff underneath. I once jacked up my car a bit, told my wife to call 9-11 if something happened, and tried to clean my O2 sensor. It turns out that the socket was fouled and just spraying contact cleaner on the socket brought it back online. I'm going to replace another sensor that requires me to remove the cover for my car engine that's hiding under that. Saves me about $…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/01/22 06:26 AM
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I had a discussion with my wife about this: She griped I didn't do enough of the chores she wanted to saddle on me (nevermind I still do a lot of manly stuff). I pointed out we could simply pay for maid service. She said she didn't want strangers in her house doing stuff. So, bluff called. On the FDS forum, the hags were griping about men doing exactly the same thing I did. "How dare he! He should do these chores because she commands him to! Or, he should pay for them out of his share of the inc…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/01/22 11:03 PM
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Not only that, but it goes a long way towards explaining how they're in their current situation. It probably didn't work on the guy who sired the 5 year old with a disability BUT she didn't learn from that. She claims to be 32 (a hard 32 at that) but even at 40, I still was maturing and engaging in personal growth. I'm 56 now and STILL sometimes getting a hard life lesson here and there driven partly by me being a father and needed to mentor my child. Personal growth is driven by pain. I don't m…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/01/22 04:53 PM
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Michael's speech to his (future) father-in-law was so touching, masculine, and respectful. "infantile". He said he respected the father, his family, and Apollonia. He showed everyone respect and appreciation and it was returned. For the record, it was a lot like how I dated my wife and her family. I took them out to a nice show, not only with my wife, THEM as well. We had a wonderful time, drank, and came back. They look after my daughter. With their support, I've been married 17 years. I never …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/01/22 05:10 AM
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If I understand what you're talking about, I don't think that's what has happened. Young women's over-inflated self-worth doesn't emerge out of nowhere but rather a hyper chivalrous society both telling her how entitled and wonderful she is along with how she's a victim and indeed, that's the classic mindset of a psychopath who sees themselves, and portrays themselves, as victims while grabbing whatever they can. It's partly due to them being born into genetic celebrity that Hollywood celebs enj…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/01/22 07:37 PM
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One of my all-time favorite movie scenes, that just grew on me over time, is the courtship of Michael and Apollonia in The Godfather. It begins with Michael asking a stunned father to court his daughter under his supervision and Michael effectively dating the family for the first part of it. They fed him while he gave small gifts to the daughter and mother and he drank and relaxed with the family as they each got to know each other better. Then, with the whole family walking behind, he took her …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/01/22 04:46 PM
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I'm surprised nobody commented on the "occasional" smoking. Only about 14% of Americans smoke and even fewer in educational/financial strata she desires. My guess is that she's probably a worker in the beauty industry (hence, the working class smoking habit) and overall good looks (pretty women generally get better clientele). My wife has a single mother hairdresser a lot like this: She was a clear golddigger but she knew to be super submissive during the dating process and only AFTER she harpoo…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/01/22 09:01 PM
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I would say that DATING is "not compatible with our basic biological instincts." Dating, as we know it, is only about a century or two old. Before then, it was all arranged marriages. It barely functioned in its heyday, in the 1950's, when women had a limited, narrow set of social choices ("oppression") and there was a guaranteed supply of men that outearned them. You do have a point that the seeming availability of men in OLD exceeds what a woman might have seen in the 1950's in a dance hall, h…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/01/22 04:20 PM
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Small flaw in your statement. A wise grannie being honest won't say "No man is going to choose a single mother" but rather "there are few men who choose to date a single mother". Now granted, this woman appears to already realize that as she lists these "deal breakers" except that she rephrases/recasts them as deal breakers for HER, not HIM. And THAT is the genius, and insanity, of these women as they come to believe their demands and baggage are assets in that if she rejects 99% of men already,…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/01/22 08:35 PM
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I'm thinking it would have been wonderful to reply: "Hello. Are women stuck up like this where you're from?" Not just to knock her down a peg or two, but out of genuine curiosity.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/01/22 04:19 AM
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This brings back a story my old physics teacher told about a mathematician who was so lazy that when he dropped a page of equations out of bed, he redid them for the day rather than reach down and get it. I probably lucked out 30 years ago in that my refusing to live up to the "traditional real man gentleman" demands many of these women made spared me from divorce rape. I was the perfect candidate back then: Although I had standards of my own, I was naive in many ways and would have handed them …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/01/22 09:19 PM
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I'm not Chad. I'm a 57 year old guy who didn't lose his virginity until 25 not just because I was a 4/10, but because I respected myself and being a decent human being. I called out the situation we're living in before there was even a nomenclature to describe it. Since then, I got married have a wonderful daughter. I regularly have to deal with a wife who needs guidance on how to follow my lead because she's leaderless without me. Women's primary goal it seems is to rebel against the evil patri…
/r/TheRedPill07/01/22 04:45 AM
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Here's my observation: My wife tried to set up her incredibly hot, super-model looking Russian friend with a nice guy she knows from work. He did pretty well, but it was awkward because they were seated next to each other, with the intention of him wanting her, but how could he work that out? Being a blue pilled male (I feel kind of bad), he didn't score but came close. The problem is that he didn't have any game and by that, not just approach but knowing how to make himself seem more attractive…
/r/TheRedPill07/01/22 04:37 AM
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I'm always amused at how women will argue for "simplicity" when it suits them "the man should always pay, tee hee!" but custody would be simplest in just awarding the child to the person capable of singly taking care of it, no court monitoring, Guess who! With the child in the father's custody, there's no concern that it will starve because the "child support" check is late. Granted, it means loss of work for collection thugs, but for everyone else, it's better: The children, the father, and eve…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/01/22 02:23 AM
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In all fairness, this is why men like dating apps, despite the lousy male:female ratio and poor selection, than women do. They have the market and cultural advantage: Women don't ask out men because other women don't want to either, they pull "asker pays", and there's 10X more men in their 20's/30's interested in women than guys can date in the same age range. By "not allowed" what they mean is that if they tell their women friends she asked a guy out, they'll get made fun of. Women put more con…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/01/22 08:35 PM
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Women rationalize hypergamy with the wage gap despite it being debunked. "Men earn more so an average woman should earn more. An average man is X inches higher so I want at least that much." This is only because men work harder meaning that "hypergamy" is women looking to exploit men and young women, being in a ho' culture, declare "Well, then I'm a ho. Deal with it." In an legal equal society (with women actually having the edge), hypergamy is much like brinksmanship or poker. When women win, t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/01/22 07:25 PM
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Married 18 years. At Elvis Chapel (google it) I don't know how that guy is still working, but his voice and mannerisms were fantastic. Everyone had a wonderful time and for the package, at the time, $400, got a limo, a cake, champagne, and VHS and photos (but I tipped). We went out to a nice restaurant afterwards with the wedding party and I took everyone to Cirque. Everyone had a great time. Due to geography it was tough to arrange for a traditional wedding and in this case, it was for the best…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/01/22 07:13 PM
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Fantastic thesis. I'll add that dating did have a "golden years" slice of time that women pine for: The 1920's to the 1980's. Before 1920, the concept of a girl going out on a date unescorted was largely taboo. Without the pill or contraception, dinner dates involved a conflict of interest that even if a gentlemen didn't intend, would cause her to spread her legs and risk ruining her life. If she got knocked up, she could give up the child for adoption but that would have a mental impact. Chads …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/01/22 06:54 PM
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Back 20 years ago, I roomed with some women including a pop-psychologist who said that men should "court" women continually as if it was the first date: He holds the doors, pays for meals, and entertains her in perpetuity. She also advocated dual mating strategy as if she invented it. She believed that women could monkey-branch and hypergamy-ladder-climb into their granny years. Last I checked, she was still single. Even a mildly hypergamous gal we knew remarked that her expectations were outrag…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/01/22 06:37 PM
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I drive by a wedding shop on the main road regularly. It stuns me how it's still in business because it's on a prime piece of real estate where other businesses have $10,000 a month turnovers. When I got married 16 years ago, I went into it out of curiosity and said we needed a wedding gown for a month out and they laughed at me. Nothing in the shop was under 2 grand. I left, we went to a regular store and got her a white cocktail dress, and that worked (was ideal for the after wedding reception…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/01/22 06:25 PM
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I marvel to this day at a remark made by a girl on USENET back 35 years ago: "You men have it easy! You're ALLOWED to ask women out. Us women have to WAIT for men to ask us out!" It was so wonderfully bourgeoisie like some wealthy woman griping she had to wait for a maid to clean up after her or for food to be served while the servants could do anything they want! I was simply tongue tied back then on how to respond.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/01/22 05:55 PM
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I was reading a marketwatch article on google about a 60 year old guy who was living with his similar aged FWB/girlfriend in her place. She had more money than him, but he was doing quite well on his own so he moved in and she was ok with it. He helped her out with her real estate investment contracting for free and also did chores around the home along with, of course, paying for all the dates out. But it wasn't enough. She wanted him to pay rent too because she liked to go on shopping trips an…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/01/22 02:51 PM
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A rather neat summary of what is going on. I'd add this fun observation regarding the sex part: Men have been shamed by both sides for using porn and masturbation but, within moderation of course, men are required to be sexually independent of women since because sex isn't a right, then men become sex slaves. Even someone who has a serious porn addiction is probably better off than blowing his paycheck for years on onlyfans, strip clubs, or demeaning dinner dates. In a modern era when the shamin…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/01/22 02:23 PM
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In other words, she's experiencing treatment from men the way that women treat ordinary men. Correction: She's still getting treated better than the average guy is treated. She doesn't even realize she still has it good.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/01/22 03:56 AM
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Nobody picked up on the most significant issue which is that she got pregnant and had a child while she was dating. 2000 years ago, women got stoned for stuff like this and a mere 20 years ago, would have raised more than eyebrows. The concept of The Pill and Abortion was that this stuff wasn't supposed to happen anymore but now it's becoming more common. If there's one positive aspect to all this is that few men should be incels anymore. If a guy can't get laid with a gal like this, then he's h…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/01/22 04:22 PM
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Consider that since civilized history (when humans formed tribes and developed the notion of collective or two parent upbringing of children), the Evil Patriarchy that feminists referred to came into being producing all manners of horrors including constructed shelter, medical care, tools, hunting, and agriculture. These increased human life expectancy beyond one's fertile years meaning that women could officially hit a "wall" in dating. From that point on, the choice of whom a woman bred with w…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/01/22 04:48 PM
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I did something which cools their jets even better. Let's run the numbers that when the (misquoted) statistic was debunked, women earn at least 94 cents per dollar for similar work (nevermind affirmative action). This doesn't mean that the remaining 6 percent is due to discrimination against women, but rather just not explained just as if we don't have all the explanations for UFOs doesn't mean they're automatically space aliens. So that means the other 12 cents or so is due to women's own choic…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/01/22 04:00 PM
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Getting laid wasn't my only goal not just with women, but with life. I sometimes wanted women to get the message that men aren't ATM machines who provide food pellets in exchange for sex. Other than my wife (special case, we had met previously in a non date environment), I took women out on activity dates where this paradigm didn't apply. Not only did it avoid me having skimmer on my head but they associated the fun of the activity with me. Shooting and tennis were the best.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/01/22 03:51 PM
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Yikes. This one gets me to thinking that men are the driving force behind (constructive) human evolution. A man who looked and acted like this wouldn't breed.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/01/22 03:46 PM
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This begs an examination of how women think in different situations. When pursuing college degrees and professional status, granted with help via affirmative action, they can comprehend the value of hard work, planning, and even settling on expectations. But mix in men, and they get all googly eyed and crazy believing that demands have value similar to someone applying for job as CEO says in the list of qualifications: “I have a lot of bills to pay.” Even now, as I type this and after what I wen…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/01/22 04:52 AM
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Late to this party, but I thought I'd observe how different women are in other countries. My friend and I were observing a cute girl working at a kiosk. We were both married, but if we were single we could have gone in, chatted her up, dropped our backgrounds (such as perhaps being in university, etc.) and not to say she would be a golddigger but rather impressed we were making something out of our lives and be interested. We wouldn't need more "game" than that to drive her to a relationship. We…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/01/22 12:42 AM
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If I was single, I'd go out on a date with her if only to educate her about the debunked wage gap (although she's probably heard it before): Men earn that extra 20 cents because women like her insist upon it and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy much like men do less housework and women get "mommy tracked" even as they make choices that inevitably put them on that track. I'd then offer her to fix the wage gap by earning more money than me and she pays for the dinner and see how that goes. An…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/01/22 12:31 AM
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I'm reminded of this anecdote I read on the internet back about 35 years ago (yes, no kidding). A guy met a girl online, back when the internet was text only, and paid for a flight to visit her about 700 miles away. He said she as the fattest, ugliest girl he ever saw but he had sex with her anyway. Why? "I had to get something for my money." It's a favorite anecdote I like to use to make a point how people get sucked into things. Perhaps these guys felt after they were already in for 3 dinner d…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/01/22 12:07 AM
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I read a lot between the lines with the "pay for the first date". It sounds as if a lot of guys she's gone out with, bless their hearts brothers, have told her that it's 2022 and equal women can pay their own way on dates now. Although it may not happen often enough, there are guys such as myself who wouldn't be saps and fall for the "pretend to reach for her purse" game and "insist" upon paying as if she's the one doing us a favor to pay. Whether this has happened since baby-daddy number one, o…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/01/22 12:01 AM
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Formative years. At age 20, a decent looking woman could act like a total brat and still have men not only chase after her for nookie but even love. Even back in the 1980's, there were divorced women in their 50's griping "where are all the good men" as, no OLD back then, their old system of being demanding waiting for fish to jump in their bucket didn't work anymore. Divorced men of the same age, if they wanted to hook up again, knew they had to "get back on the bicycle" so to speak and deal wi…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/01/22 05:06 PM
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Wonderful way of putting it since many career women are PC and treat people in the workplace with basic respect but in dating, they treat handicapped men with utter contempt. FDS referred to guys below 6 feet as being "genetically inferior." I'm reminded of one of the opening scenes in A Clockwork Orange where Alex sadistically beats up an old hobo under a bridge. He was young, well off, and not a care in the world (that was the opening line in the movie, actually). Then later, he was weak and s…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/01/22 11:01 PM
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That's pretty extreme for me. There's time invested to go to another store and wait in the checkout line and whose to say that the other store won't also have a long line assuming you aren't paying your Whole Paycheck at Whole Foods
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/01/22 10:53 PM
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Check out on youtube the Russian fairy tale "Kolobok English dubbing". I love the ending. Harsh lessons for a better future.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/01/22 07:07 PM
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OK, I use that phrase. Not sure of its popularity. It refers to "belling the cat" where the mice conspire to attach a bell to a cat so they can be warned about him.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/01/22 05:15 PM
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The phrase is "the cat bells itself."
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/01/22 04:25 PM
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Nobody called out this statement by her so you get a cookie. Why does she need a trusted family member? If she earns good money and has a degree, then it shouldn't be a problem to pay for a babysitter. Someone said it on this forum a few months ago that women grow up playing dating life on "easy mode" and compared it to a video game. Imagine if the men all got to play Doom in hard mode. Yeah, some men couldn't cut it but they'd be fantastic at it when they did. Someone playing games in easy mode…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/01/22 04:22 PM
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And... as an added bonus: Every year she gets older as her success prices her out of the market.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/01/22 04:12 PM
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I'm in the boat myself of a skilled man with(out) (edit) a degree and women are snobs about it. Doesn't matter if I have 6 figures in the bank and am otherwise self-taught classical educated. They want the status of a degree similar to some corporation with 100 applicants for an internship will demand a degree. What makes this demand particularly reptilian is that this particular woman needs a man whose compassionate and understanding who will accept her with her kids and... he's got standards (…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/01/22 04:11 PM
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Hehehehe, I didn't catch that. Perhaps men in "leadership roles" want their OWN children to lead. :-) But not only that, if she's into "leadership", why is she waiting to be approached by men? Feminists gripe about being their attempts at leadership being dismissed as "bossy" but male leaders accept the chance of being called out as a-holes and blazing a trail. Leaders don't follow the herd or satisfy the hivemind of their friends (although, from what I've observed, in corporate America that's l…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/01/22 04:04 PM
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For your amusement, please google "King Thrushbeard", one of the few fairy tales with (IMO), a bad ending but the guy who wrote it appears to have been based. I just found out there's even a Czechoslovakian film! It's not Disney's fault that (most) of the fairy tales they used had either unrealistic narratives or endings that were so dark they couldn't be shown to children (The Little Mermaid's ending traumatized my wife as I read it to my daughter.) Then corporate Disney decided to take already…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/01/22 03:58 PM
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Except, in this case the "monkey branched" to an empty tree.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/01/22 03:53 PM
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That's not the primary problem with such women. A larger one is that they view themselves as "independent" (and certainly let you know the second you try to demand a concession from them) but still want the Fairy Tale of the Prince approaching her and storming the castle. To your point about gender reversal: Imagine a single father griping that all the women who approached him left as soon as they found out about his kid. Everyone would tell him to widen his net by approaching women OR settling.…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/01/22 03:50 PM
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Youtube "ted talk hacked online dating". Comments are shut off (for obvious reasons) as a 4/10 listed about 40 demands (including, of course, the usual we see here) and was disappointed that she attracted scammers and pumpers. I give her a kudos though for then researching the successful dating profiles and analyzing what the women said (usually cheerful, feminine, kind things) rather than demands and showing some (tasteful) skin. She then got some top beta bucks and landed one. American women r…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/01/22 03:56 AM
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Far out. Never heard of that. Thanks so much!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/12/21 01:14 PM
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My wife had a friend whom I referred to as "Akula" (the shark). She had 4 ex husbands, chain smoked, and was generally a slightly insane person. But like Baba Yaga, sometimes she gave very useful advice. Nonetheless, she always tried to overly take advantage of you if you let your guard down. When I told my wife we would get her a nice "new" Audi, she advised my wife "Don't get a 3 year old used car for 30% less. Make him buy you a new one!" I advised my wife that it was HER family budget too an…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/12/21 03:04 AM
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I don't think feminists really "thought" in the same context us men do. For example: I used to room with a pop psychological relationship book author in Hollywood Hills. She explained to me that feminism was about choices (for women, of course, it's called feminism after all) See, women would get paid the same as men (or more to make up for previous oppression) of course and then, each woman could choose to either marry a nice, liberated, beta male who cooks and cleans and earns less OR she coul…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/12/21 02:59 AM
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Here's what I think is happening: When men consider a woman for a relationship, in whatever context, we look for possibility in it because men really are the creators of relationships while women wait for men to approach them. Men invest in possibility while women, in the beginning, literally do almost nothing. When such a woman is approached, or envisions herself being approached, she views him similar to how we view a timeshare presentation: We don't care about the timeshare, we care about the…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/12/21 02:52 AM
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Your point brings to mind a Chad friend I had about 35 years ago in college that I chatted with about 5 years afterwards. He had moved to an industrial town and griped that all the venues he went to were sausage mills. "Where are the women in this town?" he griped I remember in college that he couldn't walk for more than 5 minutes without every girl burning a hole in his back. That being said, if all he said to the girls back then was "Hi. Wanna hang out at my place?" that would have been all he…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/12/21 04:50 AM
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Hehehe, you're thinking logically. STOP THAT! :-) In discussions I had with young career women 30 years ago, they didn't mind all that you just said because the money they earned from this work was HER money to spend at the shopping mall and restaurants with her friends. Hubby would pay the bills and, of course, do 1/2 of the housework (she's modern and traditional when it suits her). That was The Dream and I think for many women in the 70's through to the early 90's, it was attainable under the…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/12/21 07:17 PM
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Ahem, if I may assist in your understanding: Young women are either flooded with attention without making any effort whatsoever or they hear about it from other women. Heck, they get so much of it they can even complain about it: "I'm SICK of men HITTING on me!!!!" So if they're that hot, they can make demands and they do. "If you didn't want to buy me an expensive dinner, why did YOU ask ME out?!?!" Making an OLD profile is an admission of unattractiveness. No Chad I've ever known has made one …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/12/21 05:59 PM
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I've seen something similar in the past. Thanks. Indeed, that particular poster was looking for someone to pile on that her opinion is the guy should be "manning up" and paying. Actions speak louder than words: She posted this diatribe to the internet rather than dump him which says "He's a good looking guy and knows I'll still screw him even if he doesn't pay. I don't like it! Shame him!" My wife sometimes calls me cheap and I smile when I stand up to her because I know she'll respect me in the…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/12/21 05:42 PM
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It's comments like this that make it worth reading through to the bottom.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/12/21 04:07 PM
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When my daughter enters her teenage years, I'm going to tell her to ask this important question when interacting with a man: Imagine that he says all the right things, he "overwhelms" you into sleeping with him, he's even handsome! Then, after a month or so, he tapers and losers interest and wanders off. Or he even just never calls again. If you enjoyed the sex, was it "worth it"? For men, sex is "worth it" in and of itself, but assuming the guy wants sex, and only sex, will it satisfy you? And …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/12/21 12:53 AM
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Not only that, but multiple dating is costly and hence, she can afford this because either these men all pay for the dates, or at worst, she goes dutch (which I doubt.) For men to date multiple women, he has to be smart/handsome/cheap enough for "hookups" or he has the beta/alpha bucks (which is what dinner dating is shit testing for) but then, he has to be "gentlemanly" enough to want to wife her up and hand her his stuff. She gripes about how awful this is, but she's clearly not giving it up b…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/12/21 12:43 AM
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Someone else spotted it: This means she makes shit tests. She doesn't want to be "submissive" but she'll trash a guy who buys into her (self-believed) egalitarianism line. She sabotages her relationships hoping for a "real man" to fix her, perhaps due to the broken family problem, or maybe just for the fun of it. This is something she should explore.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/12/21 12:34 AM
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She asks an interesting rhetorical question and I'd like to answer it: Answer: Because human relationships are about helping people with their lives, rather than making demands (expectations) of them. It's easy to love someone whose hot and shares their money with you but that love is as shallow as the men who want to have sex with her. She complains men who don't want to commit emotionally to her when her primary sexual asset decreases with age while men who are successful and handsome INCREASE…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/12/21 12:32 AM
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That's useful info and should be included on the actual posts (even if a summary). She wants validation and not actual solutions. Men offer red-pill harsh wisdom (you're being used, but you need to improve yourself to be worthy of a good woman.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/12/21 12:24 AM
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I don't think that's the entire truth. She implies she's taken men out on dates and is an anti-feminist, even if in name only. She's 1 year short of 30 and has a few more years of useful womb to offer a man. She claims to not require men to support her and perhaps even shows this by not meal whoring. So I think she does offer value. The problem appears to have high demands (She says she shoots very high, which implies she wants a Beta Bucks or even Alpha bucks). The problem may be that she has m…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/12/21 12:22 AM
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That's was my guess as well as what was wrong. I just had a nice family Christmas dinner with a single mother who got remarried after 3 kids and had 1 kid with the new guy. She's lovely and successful but not arrogant or demanding. Her new husband is probably not perfect but she knows she got a good deal and that's that. "Settling" doesn't mean going for the bottom. It's a pity that the discussion didn't delve into what she was refusing to 'settle' on and by what. For example, if a guy is 1/2 in…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/12/21 12:16 AM
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A few observations on that statistic: We take it for granted that a woman has all of her children with one man. We are in an interesting era in human history where many women, particularly corporate nuns who hit their 30's childless, who don't have children at all and single mothers with kids from 5 different men. In recent human history, most women had kids with the same man even if that man had multiple kids with multiple women. Widows might have kids from two different sets of men. A woman NO…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/12/21 12:01 AM
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Good question and it should be fun to explore the logistics of it. She says specifically they went out on "dates" for 10 months. During that time, the two women didn't cross signals even indirectly such as both meeting his relatives or friends who might blow his cover. Neither of them must have lived with him or spent a great deal of time at his place because, again, there's a chance one of the girlfriends might drop by unexpectedly. She's worried about the "girlfriend" title but I imagine it do…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/12/21 09:42 PM
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I'm surprised nobody in the comments mentioned the fraternity system. The fraternity system is dangerous (it can suck men down in the party lifestyle) but it's also empowering when it comes to getting these men support to increase their notch count. They have a home (unlike guys in apartments) and other men around to back them up if she starts disrespecting him. He doesn't have a "wingman" but rather a whole squadron. The campus is also full of jocks, or guys in business majors with spare time, …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/12/21 07:24 PM
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About 12 years ago on American Idol, Simon Cowell was asking a cringey performer if she thought she sang well and she said, with a serious look on her face: "All the guys at the bar say I sing well" and he laughed. It's unimaginable to us the level of attention these women receive almost as if they're being set up to fail in life. They're told for 10 years, or more, that ANYTHING they do is charming, witty, funny, and acceptable. If they fart, there's a man who will say that he thinks that's a p…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/12/21 07:18 PM
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There should be an FAQ on this in the other forum: There are several reasons why women think this, but I think one of them is: "I have men attracted to me. I can make demands. I demand they find me attractive for the reasons I value!" Think about it: That's why many post a list of demands as if those are assets. She thinks that since men will respond to her, why not list demands since she can demand, er, that they find the demands attractive. Here's an analogy to show how crazy it is: "Doggie? W…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/12/21 07:09 PM
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I think it's because of the celebrity syndrome (if there's a term for it) where someone said that you get locked into the mindset of when you feel you've "made it" in life. For men, that's usually middle age which isn't a terrible thing: Old enough to have experience and wisdom, young enough to still enjoy it. When you believe you've "made it", you don't feel a need to self-improve as much. You can still learn facts, but you are "good enough". You can sit back and enjoy life. A celebrity such as…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/12/21 06:43 PM
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Only in a chivalrous, western patriarchal protective society could people afford to live in such delusional bubbles. In a zombie apocalypse, they'd be the first to get eaten. I regret not saving the PDF, but I drilled through all the cites to eventually find the housework study and read it. Yes, read it (ok, not the whole thing) and found buried in it that mowing the lawn, cleaning the gutters, and fixing windows are "hobbies" and therefore not "unpaid work." The 77 cents on a dollar nonsense is…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/12/21 04:57 PM
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"Lol. In what era was this ever the case?" That was rather my point: I was comparing this to the modern feminine concept that men should enjoy being disposable breadwinners and protectors and enjoy demonstrating this during courtship just as men don't make messes around the house for women to "woman up". The feminist assumption of marriage being abusive to women was projection of their own sexist demands of men. Very well, I agree that this forum is entertaining first and foremost. Can some folk…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/12/21 03:11 PM
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It's not they don't care, but for many that's one of the essential aspect of the relationship is that, in the beginning, the man has to put up with her crappy behavior to "win" her. This is "romance" to them. Imagine in a more, er, patriarchal society where a man wouldn't consider a woman for wife material unless she cooked for him, cleaned, and then picked up his messes and, oh, she's supposed to SMILE and enjoy it the whole time, say THANK YOU when he tracks dirt into the house. There's no way…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/12/21 04:34 AM
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"she developed a deep appreciation for her own independence." I don't need to go to the Bible to show how that is so laughably unChristian at so many levels. Christian women are expected to be members of the community and submissive to the men in their families. This isn't just a matter of being a Christian but also a function of a healthy marriage to a man she wants to respect. Having kids, being married, or both is the opposite of independence. I continually discuss with my wife on nearly ever…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/12/21 06:15 PM
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One of feminism's goals, and largely achieved even before 2nd wave feminism, was the concept of women being entitled to relationships. In the days of oppression, women began to actively seek marriage in their teens and regarded the early 20's as their biological clock going off. They didn't play "hard to get" beyond the basic game men are now encouraged to learn so they don't come across as "thirsty" but rather they knew how to socially approach men, network, "escalate" towards marriage, and be …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/12/21 06:11 PM
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I think this is ending with a gentlemanly squabble, at least I hope so. My mother worked during the 70's as well, but she didn't directly compete with my father like modern women do. College degrees matter because women with college degrees usually won't date men who don't and on average, those with college degrees do earn more.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/12/21 04:18 PM
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Hehehe. That's something that economists could write entire books on and still disagree. A few observations (and you can certainly make counter ones) Women didn't fully enter the job market until Generation X. Many boomer women were housewives and hadn't yet taken full advantage of affirmative action or went to university. Google image "male female ratio in college". Women started to exceed men in university in 1980. This meant that up to when the youngest boomer was 15, women hadn't yet success…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/12/21 04:17 AM
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I'm aware of 80:20 and even 90:10 but wanted to add: 1) The act of registering for OLD is an admission of need from women. It's why women tend to avoid them compared to men since OLD is easier for men than asking women out physically. 2) Women avoid asking out/initiating contact at all costs to maintain emotional leverage hence even if the ratio is 50:50, a woman will still get 10X more messages in her inbox than men. Women won't mass swipe. Why should they need to when they've got a full mailbo…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/12/21 08:31 PM
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My theory on this one: "I don't like filtering through loser guys who aren't perfect. It implies, like loser guys THINKING they have a chance with me, that I'm less than a goddess! If they tried this at work they'd be fired! Oh, wait, why aren't men asking me out at work? Oh, anyway, if I have to come here, I don't want loser responses in my profile. Only top grade men who admit, by swiping on me, that I am valued and only THEY are worthy of me!!!" Women HATE the idea of "settling" and I've even…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/12/21 06:41 PM
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Either that or she had 2 years of foodie calls sticking the check on men. I know some guys who are either wealthy enough, or sincerely don't care, that women use him for free food but even so, one should be cognizant of such behavior to predict their future behavior and assess their character.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/12/21 06:31 PM
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I asked my niece who looks like Barbie and just landed a dream job after college that pays a lot what she wanted to do and she replied "Get my PhD and then marry a rich guy." They think that hypergamy works in that the more they earn, they more than can demand from men. This largely worked for a particular generation: The Gen X women who married the baby boomer men: There were lots of older baby boomer men to marry, and few baby boomer men, and plenty of jobs for these men, so there wasn't a pro…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/12/21 06:27 PM
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One of the things I intend to tell my daughter later in life is that I don't think any man would reject a girl because she doesn't have enough piercings. I didn't think I would need to limit the scope of that with "decent" man. Are there guys out there, even bad boys, who would refuse to bed or wife up a woman because she's not tatted or pierced enough?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/12/21 04:45 PM
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If this society had any morals, CPS would take her boy into state custody. Granted, she's a step up from "my kids come first!" but she should cut back on the drinking, quit smoking, and cut the social media and tats.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/12/21 01:42 PM
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"Women would rather stay in a relationship with someone who makes them feel bad than feel nothing at all." About 30 years ago, a woman asked me in a discussion forum: "Why do you want to date women? You complain about them so much." I had to concede she had a point. To young folks here, 30 years ago doesn't sound so bad by comparison but I was red pilled back then and didn't like the games they played, the shit tests, bragging about their jobs and then sticking me with the dinner bill, and just …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/12/21 07:24 PM
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This should be made into a Hallmark Channel Christmas story: "Ho ho ho homeless!"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/12/21 05:20 PM
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Hahahah! Good one! That hadn't occurred to me...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/12/21 05:19 PM
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Story ya all might appreciate: My wife has a Russian single mother friend with a daughter and recently the daughter immigrated to live with the mother. The mother was a real user: 4 marriages where she divorced raped the guys, she tends to take advantage of others, and is otherwise selfish and manipulative. (OK, note that she was useful in that she gave sometimes very useful medical and financial advice. We don't talk to her anymore.) The daughter's father is a big shot in Russia and wired $25,0…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/12/21 05:18 PM
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My theory for why single mothers don't see it as a deficit: I traveled with my daughter alone when my wife was with relatives and I felt like a rock star. People were nicer to me perhaps because as a man, having a child in two showed that I was taking care of a child on my own rather than just the mother looking after them. Even with mothers, they probably do get better treatment with a child in tow than a normal person would such as priority seating in restaurants, etc. Besides, who wants to lo…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/12/21 05:13 PM
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A friend of mine from Warsaw, about 20 years or so ago, was telling me of the time his bag lost a wheel after he flew Swiss Airlines from Zurich to L.A. Now I would have been happy to get the bag in one piece but he complained to the baggage claim and they gave him an airport store coupon for a BRAND NEW BAG! Yes, not making this up. Swiss (perhaps not so much now) was great! I asked him "So, how's the bag?" He replied: "It's in the closet. I use the old one. It's ok other than the one wheel mis…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/12/21 08:08 PM
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I was explaining to a feminist in a youtube comments debate the concept of a dowry: The idea of a dowry is that when a woman, even from a good family, marries into a wealthy family, she's enjoying the benefit of that wealth along with her offspring. I'm about 1/3d of the way through The Bible and it specifies that the dowry is to be returned, along with the wife, if there's a divorce or some other issue. In other words, the dowry is a security deposit. A normal guy wouldn't get a dowry or worse,…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/12/21 10:57 PM
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Another story. I am not making this up. When I was a kid, about 45 years ago, baseball card collecting was popular. The kids at the elementary school playground played a game where they'd flip a card and if it landed heads up, they'd get it but if it landed heads down, the other guy won. I realized that the kids fought like a banshee for the cards and just threw them out into the crowd. They were like a quarter a pack and that was nothing even for kids back then. Yeah, I know, I was a sick son o…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/12/21 09:07 PM
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There's so much good stuff in this post. It's like being at a top buffet in Vegas after getting comped. Where to begin? The crab legs or the filet mignon? So many paradoxes: Cosmetologist who hates on makeup. Wants a man who appreciates her without makeup, and then does everything she can to make her natural appearance unpleasant with piercings and tats. My wife knows a snobby cosmetologist golddigger single mom who married a top beta buck and made bank but she was pretty. Who wants to pay someo…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/12/21 04:00 PM
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Ok, I have a personal anecdote in response to that. I have a relative who made a similar post when she was at the wall but she didn't have kids (and didn't want them.) She made a snarky post just like this "Don't do X or I won't respond! Don't do this or I won't respond!" and she wound up dating a pleasant, short beta male who wifed her up. After marriage, she continued to do weed and sometimes have blackouts and she was on all kinds of psychotropic meds. He's stuck with her for about 20 years. …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/12/21 03:44 PM
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I don't think any decent man on this planet willing to accept other women's kids have said: "I really liked her, but she didn't have enough tattoos."
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/12/21 03:39 PM
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There's multiple generations of feminism. For wave 2, the baby boomers who enjoyed affirmative action, they probably are the happiest of them. Youtube "up in the air talking about relationships". That generation was able to special treatment in the workplace AND then find a beta, even alpha bucks, to marry. Why? Well, since women prefer older men they enjoy the benefits of these older men not having been as negatively impacted by feminism. In that scene, if you watch it, the Natalie character th…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/12/21 02:37 PM
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It occurred to me recently how feminism has been in place for generations, that the definition of a traditional wife has been rewritten in the west. The way it’s seen now, a man provides and protects a woman while she finds things to gripe about. He is disposable to make gestures of chivalry to win her love. For most of history, and in much of the world whose men are emigrating to western nations, the man isn’t the provider, provider, and emotional clown. He’s the boss. Does your boss seem like …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/12/21 05:15 PM
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Minor quibble: More likely it's 1% of 1%. What this woman describes is a true unicorn: Only 1/1000 men have this kind of income, a fraction of that have the looks and lifestyle, and a fraction of that would marry a woman such as this and put up with her demands. But yeah, one of them hit the lottery. About two years ago I took a photo of a woman's shopping cart at a Giant food store. She had something like 20 lottery (or scratcher?) tickets in it and she was buying more. I didn't want to make a …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/12/21 01:51 PM
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Hehehe. I didn't cry it, but I was thinking it. It's too perfect. But in this day and age, life imitates art.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/12/21 11:22 PM
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"corporate nunnery" That's a term I coined (well, I think I did). There's a term for it: Parallel evolution. In any case, thanks for using it!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/12/21 04:37 PM
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Minor quibble: You wouldn't be starting a family with a 38 year old woman. If all goes well, you MIGHT start a family with a 40 year old woman (in this case.) Even a woman like this with babies on her mind on the date won't want a guy who pays for dates, shows his W-2 (via his job title, car, home, etc.) to drop on his knees with a big diamond ring and propose and elope to Vegas. No Way! She'll IMMEDIATELY revert to "Hard to get" young maiden and insist that they court for a few months while she…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/12/21 04:25 PM
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Agreed. I would add that intersectional white male guilt and affirmative action exacerbated the hyper chivalry feminism present in the culture. This burned the candle at both (even three) ends as feminism and the legal system empowered women while decrying masculinity even as hypergamy raised the bar for what was demanded from men. Back in 1957, my mother's first and only shit test for my father for a relationship leading to marriage was she gave him her name and he had to look it up in the phon…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/12/21 01:37 PM
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What's funny about that observation is that women have invented a whole concept of boasting without actual accomplishments: Designer bags and clothing, jewelry, and eating at expensive restaurants. I went successfully on only one dinner date in my entire life and I'm married to that woman (the dinner was a hilarious disaster) but I avoided them like the plague otherwise. It's a demonstration of status for women to sit in public and have someone bring her stuff (food), make ORDERS, and get someon…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/12/21 01:48 PM
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Let's consider the difference between a man saying such a thing and a woman OLD: Man: I'm a civil engineer and have a degree. I therefore have a reliable income so you needn't worry about me being a financial burden to you. Heck, as a man, that makes me a great provider! 38 year old Christian woman: I'm a civil engineer and have a degree so you better have at least that, preferably more, or I'll treat you like total garbage. Oh, and since I'm independent, I don't respect what you bring so much a…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/12/21 02:51 AM
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The peer pressure your refer to probably hurts her in that some guy is pushed by his aunt and mother in church to ask the girl out and he does and she, like you said, cruelly rejects him but even worse, uses Jesus as her bouncer "I just didn't feel a connection with him! Jesus says there's no chemistry!" So the guy reports back to all the guys at church that she's just another tease. After a decade or so of this, she's poisoned the well. She may as well wear a scarlet letter. In fact, before OLD…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/11/21 07:15 PM
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Never underestimate the delusional mindset of women. Perhaps she has some filters going on or an old photo, but she appears rather young for her stated age. She may want to believe she's "young at heart" and that she's not some 38 year old woman 2 years away from hitting the big 4 zero. She seems to have some cognizance that she's blown years of her life on a career track and doesn't want to fully accept that she's now moved from her youthful 20's into the middle aged (40 years and up) generatio…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/11/21 06:59 PM
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My guess: Her use of the term "demisexual" implies that she is stating she's not a hookup girl (if that's what the term means) meaning, of course, she IS into hookups and in vocal denial about it. All the nastiness is her shit test: She's a bad girl and only a bad boy will ignore all that, ignore whatever she says, and pound her in the alley behind Applebies.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/11/21 04:43 PM
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A lot between the lines with this one: She prefers the men younger meaning she's probably online precisely because the only guys hitting on her at church events are icky guys who are 45 years old and don't make as much as her. Also, she's "traditional" when it comes to men paying for dates and such but HER money is HER money (unless they make more then it's "THEIR" money). She's at least not tatted up with face piercings and blue hair which reminds me of several women like this I knew back in th…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/11/21 04:39 PM
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Here’s my explanation: The “traditional dating” paradigm that women are hopelessly locked into was based upon a narrow margin of history when women dated outside of the home but dating pools were shallow (they went to the same school and lived in the same neighborhood), men generally were the primary earners, and women didn’t milk it for too long since they were told to get married early before all the beta bucks and chads were taken. Even in the case of a retired CC looking to “settle”, there a…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/11/21 08:42 PM
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It would be super awesome to see someone post a profile where a single mothers lists interests such as "cleaning my home, making healthy food from scratch, learning and teaching my child the piano, helping with church festivals, reading" instead of (in this relative order) "travel, foodie, music, netflix, disney".
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/11/21 03:43 PM
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Women almost ALWAYS have "core standards". Heck, they're at the top of her list: Height and money. She also wants to make sure he reinforces his role as protector (holds open doors) and provider (pays for meals). The game they play is to pile on MORE requirements to make her "core" seem less obvious. I actually heard this line: "I don't ONLY want money from men so I'm not a golddigger!" So if she demands he be handsome AND tall and meet her other demands, she's not "shallow" because she's added …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/11/21 10:38 PM
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If I may kindly restate my point: Even if she is repairable, nobody who matters cares. She has no respect for the alpha men she desires aside from wanting them for social and personal validation which wasn't enough. All the people who will run to her aid will only be enablers making the problem worse. She has not reformed in any way aside from the basic realization that she's in a pickle jar, but she expresses no remorse about her actions aside from the consequences (she's sorry she got caught.)…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/11/21 05:18 PM
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My suspicion as to what happened: "Get off your ass, lazy husband! Our neighbors drive a Lexus and Infinity and you make me drive to the clinic in a 5 year old Honda! Get a promotion so you can earn more money for me to spend! Lazy!" "Ok, I kiss your lazy ass out! I get child-support from you! They are my life!" "Rotten lazy husband! My kids turn 18 and now they want to go to college and lazy ex-husband doesn't pay for it! I need something that pays more! 10 year old Honda doesn't fix itself! I …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/11/21 05:03 PM
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Not broken beyond repair. I've repaired a lot of things and she's asking for advice. I'm a beta male who landed a pretty woman. The thing is... I DON'T want to help her. If she put in the effort both in self-improvement and hard work, she could land an alpha guy. My wife has single women friends such as this who don't ask me for advice and to heck with it, I don't offer it. If I was alpha, I wouldn't want someone such as myself teaching them how to land me and giving them our secrets. Eff 'em. R…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/11/21 03:22 PM
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Back in the late 80's, a common woman friend we had said that it was popular for girls to say "I'm not interested in marriage!" as a status symbol for her importance. She needed not just a Real Man but a real man who could basically sell her his commitment to her. My mother said that it was now popular to not congratulate the woman on getting engaged but saying the man is lucky. So this means that women play a "hard to get" game not only with men, but marriage overall. A True Prince should storm…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/11/21 03:47 AM
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I have a relative who put an ad up on OLD dating about 15 years ago. It was similar to the tone of many profiles posted here: "List of my demands and complaints about men! In upper case! This is what I like!" and then the threat "Don't want just only just one thing or else I'll dump you!" It's sort of like a dog owner punishing a dog who does something because he wants dog treats by denying him... dog treats.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/11/21 10:01 PM
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I had my brother and niece over for dinner. She's 22 and lovely, a 10/10 and just graduated school with a good job offer. She says she wants to get a PhD and then "find a rich man". I don't know if she was joking. It wasn't my place to say or correct her (particularly since I want my brother butting out of my family affairs.) "you go girl!" and "grrl power!" means that nobody wants to knock women down to earth. Anyway, it wasn't my circus nor my monkey.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/11/21 08:10 PM
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There's a cute film "High Fidelity" that goes into this sort of thing and the protagonist reached out to the mother of the first girl he kissed (and vice versa) and the mother corrected him: "No. Jim was the first guy she kissed and they've been married for 20 years. Good bye!" Back then, the IDEAL for young women was to marry the first guy she fell in love with and drag him to the grave with (oh, who are we kidding, before her!) but Nancy Reagan soon dying after the Gipper, lifelong commitment …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/11/21 08:07 PM
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I read someone who had this happen (perhaps on this forum) and it was this hot girl in high school who said he was husband material but not boyfriend material, etc. At their high school reunion or he was in town and she was a 28 year old single mom and he bangs her and moves on. She was hurt about it but he did something she had done to him: He made her bang material instead of wife material. He had put her into a slot she didn't want to be in just as she had done to him.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/11/21 08:00 PM
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It's the ONE advantage (ok, a few others) to being male: As bad as it is, it's like the tortoise and hare and lottery winners at the age of 18: They blow winning the genetic and cultural lottery. Imagine what most of us would do with even the attention that 35 year old biological clock ticking women get in OLD. Yes, they don't get Chad as often or alpha bucks and perhaps not too many beta bucks but with just a little effort, many could still have a good life. Women from other cultures come to th…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/11/21 07:56 PM
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Women consider the most important aspect of their existence to have high social standing among other women. I was thinking the other day about a girlfriend 25 years ago telling me "Don't believe the lies the men in the locker room tell you." That's a movie trope and such, but in reality men don't talk about such private matters in the locker room just as we quickly do our business in the bathroom. WOMEN gossip and tear each other down and fear being a victim of The Mean Girls. Hence, women rarel…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/11/21 07:53 PM
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King Thrushbeard. Old Slavic tale. Look it up. Hilarious.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/11/21 07:49 PM
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That's Alexander Grace's contention. Since sociopaths/psychopaths (I know there's a difference) believe their own hype and eat their own dogfood, this is why they often become miserable people unable to understand why their lives are a mess and love to complain to other people about it seeking sympathy but don't want to hear any criticism to resolve them.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/11/21 03:02 PM
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Putting this out here. I moved into my grandmother's neighborhood and connecting with the locals many of whom were around when I was playing in the local playgrounds and then going back home. One is a Vietnam vet whose family has been in the region for 70 years. He's single and never married and his tale mirrors a lot of experiences of the men here, but this goes back to the 80's. He never learned to cook (even pasta or mashed potatoes.) So a holiday dinner is a big deal for him. We have him ove…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/11/21 11:13 PM
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The point I'd want to make with an activity date is that there's more to live, as Pei Mei observed in Kill Bill 2, than spending a western man's money in restaurants. I'm wondered if I should share these tips with you in chat or public but I hope others find useful: Consider local live theater (not the expensive venues) but student and small theaters with starving actors are bonafide bargains. I would usually get front row seats and have a wonderful time. My wife loved them (we don't go as much …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/11/21 04:22 PM
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I came to a similar conclusion back then: leftover single women wanted "tingles" and there's a reason why people prefer movies over live theater: Movies "feel" more real via the sensory overload. Women will complain about liars but they have zero respect for honesty aside from dismissing them "Some OTHER woman will love you, I'm sure. LJBF!" For men, there's a choice between method acting whether to become that man even if it's mere bravado (I love to call out "gentlemen" who said they paid for …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/11/21 04:08 PM
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Although she was probably a war widow, there's the period piece that's a good watch "Holiday Affair" starring Robert Mitchum you might enjoy this season. It's about a single mother who is befriended by a store security clerk. This wasn't entirely unreasonable since the fathers of these children presumably died in duty to the nation and the mothers were patriots. "Alpha chad" earned the right for a man who survived to raise his offspring and produce step-siblings.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/11/21 03:48 PM
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Let's put into context that the feminists had a point that it wasn't an independent woman paradise either. "Chad" was determined by socio-economic power and not whether a woman got the "tingles" for him and the reason for the ratio wasn't that Chad planted his seed and left but rather young women would die during childbirth and having a household with a child around, the single father would get another woman to take her place. There were no "beta bux" rescues for single mothers. Impoverished men…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/11/21 03:44 PM
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I want to give the least toxic ones the benefit of a doubt and suggest perhaps they do "care" about men's feelings in that they don't want to feel like a "baddie" by hurting them or lying outright (giving a fake number.) I read that one way around the lie is to say "Let me send you a quick text now so you know it's me!" and that way, in front of her, she sees you validating the number. I've been married for 20 years, but here's my tip as to what I did back then to avoid flaking: I'd make the dat…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/11/21 10:27 PM
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I wanted to give her the benefit of a doubt and say perhaps she just needs basic coaching but when I read "sometimes the chemistry isn't there", that clinched it. She gets the "tingles", the guys who give her the tingles know how to close the deal, and she goes through with it otherwise she knows they may dump her. If this wasn't true, then when the "chemistry wasn't there", she should have continued to date them to see if they were good relationship material and MAKE her own chemistry. She cert…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/11/21 09:40 PM
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Although I'm aware of "the numbers game" on OLD, your remark stimulated some neuron in my mind to derive an epiphany. I wondered why women often dropped out of OLD when they got overloaded with hundreds of responses in their email and went on a few bad dates. For men, this wouldn't be such a big deal. So even if 99% of responses are total junk, why not sort through them? I'm going to be doing that with my after Christmas deal shopping! And I think I realized why this is so painful for such women…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/11/21 07:54 PM
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I coined this. Feel free to steal: Feminists say: "Feminism: The radical notion that women are people! Tee hee!" My response: "Anti-feminism: The radical notion that people are people."
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/11/21 07:21 PM
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Not necessarily but consider this: In software engineering, they have numerous sexual harassment rules in place and the general rule of thumb is that if a guy hits on a girl who thinks she's pretty, she might "make an example"/sacrifice of him to get him fired to show how "pretty" she is and how she deserves better. My sister-in-law married my brother when she worked in an office with him in the 80's. Sexual banter was normal and expected and most such women married men they met at work particul…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/11/21 07:18 PM
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We recently had my niece and her father (my brother) over for dinner. She's stunning and also just graduated with an RN and is getting a great paying job. I asked her about her plans and she said: "Get a master's degree, maybe a doctorate, and then marry a rich guy." Since I have an arrangement with my siblings I don't want them intruding on my personal choices, I kept my mouth shut but this statement befuddled me. I wonder if she was just joking.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/11/21 07:15 PM
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This woman's statements reminds me of the dating profiles we see here: A list of demands with nothing she brings to the table for them. She WANTS all this stuff from a man while the descriptions of herself are liabilities: "Traditional": entitled gold digger. "straight laced": Frigid "Confident": Argumentative/demanding 34: Past her "sell by" date. I laughed at your statement that after they put you through the wringer, you get the "straight laced" lukewarm interest as you have to game them into…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/11/21 07:10 PM
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Hehehe. I observed this on RPF but I'll also add that this great line from Phylis Schlafy: "Where happened to all the good men?" Phylis: "You took their job, dear." She helped take down the Patriarchy. Now she can't find the chief of one to marry her.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/11/21 07:00 PM
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My wife has a number of friends who gripe about not being able to find a man but don't think to ask me. Their huge mistake. Men such as that hang out at the business class lounge at airports, or in a high end gym, business seminars, and higher end hobbies (flight lessons, tennis, polo, scuba). She says she's "traditional" meaning she wants to wait around for a man to ask her and take her out, but that only worked when she was 22.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/11/21 06:57 PM
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I think we're wandering into possibly breaking rule 2 but for now, I just want to understand what you were saying and my response to it. You asked if "far right politics" would lead to more broke and desperate women. It's my contention that it was largely the left, and a subset of RINO Republican politics (chivalry), that is the cause of women's desperation. You argue now that as women got more things from men. Hasn't that nonetheless backfired on them? Indeed, it's my observation that even if a…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/11/21 04:42 PM
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Your question is a bit loaded. I want to answer both yes and no to it. Allow me to elaborate: Consider this sub documents "broken and desperate women" who nonetheless have delusional entitlement attitudes. It was the welfare state, chivalry and feminism that led to their predicament. "Far right politics" can't make their situation any worse, but it could at least change their perspective for such women to avoid and find constructive life choices. Yes, thanks to feminism, living standards have de…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/11/21 02:49 PM
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Back about 24 years ago, I tried something similar. May Day red flag parade but I wanted to get laid and did. Was stood up, twice, but she kept responding. After planting my flag, she started to make demands and I denied them. "Shit tests" from men are pretty simple: Just say "no" to a woman and you'll see her true nature rather quickly. This one started chain smoking, told me she was bi-polar, and I could even see this crazy look in her eyes and face. That was it. I tapped out. (Note: I wore a …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/11/21 01:19 PM
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At that age, going through a tough time in my life I... read books. Entire bookshelves of them. Some of them improved my career opportunities. Others were about psychology, self-improvement, travel, and fiction. When I traveled overseas, the women there had a term for American women: They called them "party girls". "Real women" learn not only how to cook different, complicated things (cakes, handmade pastas, pastries) but also know musical instruments, sewing, art, and if all else fails, cleanin…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/11/21 03:33 AM
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I apologize for the confusion. My only excuse is that they're confused. To repeat: She "wants" a woman who will take care of her even as she will disrespect them eventually but people often want to be thin and eat junk food. My point is that men can use sexual experience to be more empowered men. Sexual experience helps kill off the stinky "nice guy" odor that repels women. On the other hand, what does sexual experience gain women? To be better sluts? To be more demanding? To be bitter? This wom…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/11/21 03:29 AM
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I appreciate this point, but consider you're seeing things in term of masculinity. MEN need to stretch their wings and grow to be more powerful leaders sexually in a relationship. Heck, this is partly why she wants to dump him: He's too nice of a guy. She doesn't respect him because he's settling for her. What she wants, in the end, won't exist of course: A guy whose too good for her that she can respect for settling for her. But back to your point which is that if she sluts around a little, and…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/11/21 06:27 PM
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"Why is she on a dating site?" Er, the answer is pretty obvious. That's the joke: She would get that doubt until we see her entitlement attitude AND red flags: 1) "gentleman, fight and spoil" means she craves tingles and/or golddigging. "fight" means a bad boy. 2) She uses "no fun" which stands for "no hookups" but Roosh's law says that when a woman even hints at sex on or before a first date, she's LOOKING for a hookup but wants to pretend she's not. So here's your answer: She's hooked up with …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/11/21 04:18 AM
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I THINK I understand your drift in that this ho' was selling stories but the effect on the producer was that the producer was lavishing her with gifts (in the story) even as the producer claimed to be broke and couldn't pay the debt? So 50cent called in the loan because if the producer could afford to buy cars for one night stands, he wasn't broke.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/11/21 04:12 AM
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I'm going to guess that a listing of "under $200K income" implies that's the FLOOR for that website meaning it's a sugar baby website or for high income professionals. She's trying to hook a top level beta bux (some naive nerd whose now bringing in bank). She's competing with college students looking to pay off their student loans or get designer bags to show off to their friends so she's hoping to get their leftovers. We all know what "knows how to treat a lady" and "respectful" mean: She's a g…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/11/21 04:07 AM
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I think I stumbled onto this totally by accident (getting the "frame"), but from the beginning I was onto brinksmanship with women including my wife (of 17 years). She often complains about this-or-that, has called me "cheap", and nearly every woman I know said I was like a 19th century man (which is insulting. Polish Knights aspire to the 16th century standard.) That's not to say I don't strive to be a better person or dress well but it's sort of like the feminist model in that I do this for "m…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/11/21 01:04 AM
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I don't understand the third paragraph but the video is startling. The woman was so trashy and her nasal-tone speech was grating on my nerves.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/11/21 10:22 PM
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In theory, this should make breaking into the industry easier in that, er, "slots" open up as senior actresses retire. It's not just "the casting couch" in play, but overall a starving actress can "hobosexual" her way into getting free room and board while she tries to make it while an actor will generally be on his own to eke a living.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/11/21 10:17 PM
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Watch "That guy who was in that thing", wonderful movie about the odds of making it in Hollywood. But for women, it's worse. Something like 3X worse. Basically, if you want to be an actor, you're putting your life in a lottery. But the lure, the "American Dream" is what pulls them in.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/11/21 01:17 AM
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Dude, I'm so far right that the republicans are too left for me.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/11/21 12:02 AM
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The idea behind "The Rules" is for a woman to not ask out men and to demand men put on peacock displays to earn her precious va-jay-jay. This works for young women to a degree and it was certainly the standard back when modern dating kicked off in the 1950's or so, but now women ironically find such men pathetic and repulsive. In a way, FDS is about getting women to fall in love with their beta orbiters. The problem, I think you're referring to, is that the ugly women or those in their 30's afte…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/11/21 10:54 PM
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One of the dangers of most men swiping left is that it leaves the women with feedback validation that makes the problem worse. In my own case, 30 years ago, I went on dates and the women didn't have 1/10th of the entitlement attitudes now (ok, maybe a 1/3rd) but nonetheless, I would "scuttle" getting laid to make a point. I didn't get laid until I was 25, but I did call out a woman as a meal whore and walk off. In hindsight, I should have bit my tongue, kept my expenses to a minimum, gotten laid…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/11/21 08:09 PM
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I haven't explored FDS, particularly for otherwise attractive women that it would work best for, beyond just what I heard secondhand here. The Rules of the past largely taught women to stick to the cartel plan to keep the beta males under their thumb via waiting for men to ask them out and pay for them even if this often necessitated that some of them would "take one for the team" as in die single. On the other hand, much of the PUA objective is to get laid even if at the expense (or just racing…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/11/21 08:06 PM
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It's a tongue-in-cheek remark. I do appreciate your point but consider how you made it: Indeed, Kings don't put up with getting drinks thrown into their faces even as our society says that this is acceptable behavior for women to engage in so men need to consciously confront that mindset. FDS isn't a reverse of men's "game" but rather FDS is just a new name for so-called traditional female game documented in the book "The Rules." Young men, by default, don't play "games" and there wasn't a socia…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/11/21 01:00 PM
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Men need to stop being afraid of women. If she might throw a drink, that's a chance a King has to take. That being said, I wouldn't deliver that line sitting down. I'd hand the cash to the waiter on the way out. That reminds me: When I was a kid, I had to learn how to do math without a calculator. I still have this skillset and like to keep a tab of my grocery purchases so I can spot if a price is off. I'm usually within about 2% accuracy. I spot an overcharge immediately and get it taken off. T…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/11/21 04:30 AM
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Arrive at the restaurant early, order a drink for yourself and ask for separate checks BEFORE SHE ARRIVES. Don't order for her and if she asks what she should order, just say "I don't know. I eat anything." When the waiter arrives with your check, smile and pay in cash and a separate tip for him and leave. If she objects, say: "I don't owe you anything. Didn't anyone ever tell you that?"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/11/21 03:03 AM
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In answer to your question... Women in their 20's are massively entitled because that's the culture around them and they have the SMV leverage to make such demands. Young women don't have to OLD to get dates, but older women such as this have to. Rather than accept the reality that they are older, and therefore have less SMV than young women (and for that matter, older men), they try to save face for themselves and presumably other women watching over her shoulder. "OK! I made an OLD profile! Bu…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/11/21 10:17 PM
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I don't want to get entangled in an argument about semantics. I think I understand your point in that men who are lazy, irresponsible etc. don't deserve to be treated like "kings", but nonetheless, without a designation as King, men can never "earn" it since the woman will just shit-test him until he fails. It's also my contention that the notion of pleasing women, "happy wife happy life", and making them feel tingles is also a losing battle. A true "self confident" man doesn't CARE about whethe…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/11/21 10:24 PM
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Another way of putting it: They're like Raymond in Rainman who thinks everything costs $100.00. The concept that a marriage isn't about having a big party where you're the center of attention but actual hard work is probably a huge downer for most of them. "You mean... marriage is about cleaning dirty diapers, dealing with bills, making sacrifices, and me going through hardship for another person and not just making me happy?" Nonetheless, weddings still do serve an important purpose in that the…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/11/21 06:13 PM
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This may be purple-pill thinking. Please hear me out: The idea of an 'equal' relationship and serving each other makes sense, and I don't disagree with that in principle, but consider that the first thing women do with equality is look to figure out a way to seek dominance and destroy him. Much like the USSR experiment, the gender equality experiment has shown that equality doesn't work well and that women who are in charge rarely keep the house happy (they don't become "happy wife, happy life!"…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/11/21 06:06 PM
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Poland but also many western European countries.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/11/21 09:08 PM
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One of my favorite stories. Hope you enjoy: My mother found a Playboy under my bed at 15 (yeah, it was that long ago) and went to my father and announced: "Stan. Good news! He's not gay!" My father smiled, grabbed me, and said it was "time for the talk". He gave me the best red-pill education he could under the circumstances and it was certainly quite based in many ways. I wonder how many fathers, when they're present of course, gave men my age, much less today, this kind of honest talk. One of …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/11/21 08:09 PM
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Great story, man.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/11/21 08:03 PM
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Roosh (before he got religious) claims that this line is almost certainly a subconscious signal to escalate and move in. Chaste women wouldn't mention sex in any context.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/11/21 07:58 PM
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Keep in mind that these women believe what they're saying at a conscious level and that's why they trash their own, and their children's, lives. She really does believe that she doesn't want a hookup and then when it "magically" happens, she then goes into a guilt trip and looks for a beta orbiter tampon to hear her drone on about it. Consider us men: If we go on a forum and say "I don't know why I'm fat. I keep on eating junk food and not working out. Is there something I'm doing wrong?" we wou…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/11/21 07:57 PM
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At a brothel, the sex happened right away and after that, the time was still mine so I could choose to either leave or hang out with her. A few women felt the same way about the men: They didn't want to chat and would prefer I just leave but they were "stuck" with me. Nonetheless, it was an interesting exploration and experiment to see how women and men could relate when there was no sexual pressure on either side.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/11/21 07:18 PM
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As someone whose been to brothels, I saw different reactions from women but overall, most of the women were better adjusted than the average woman on a dinner date or bar. Most men are polite to the sex workers and the women enjoy chatting men up because the men aren't sexual beggars. Going to a brothel is the closest I could get to feeling like an alpha male. Some men are quite boring of course and they don't chat up the girls but since I had interests I was passionate about, most of them enjoy…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/11/21 03:36 PM
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This notion of "burn it all down and let God sort it out" is a reminder that this is all part of a larger problem with a society where the working man, the basis of both socialist and even American revolutionary war populism, has been subtly transformed into men serving ideological agendas (rather than the other way around) and dehumanized into disposable units with value only as far as their own wealth and social status. In a "free market" darwinian culture, it's remarkably efficient as liberta…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/11/21 03:32 PM
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I was out of work for a year and looked after my baby daughter. It was wonderful. My observations: Thank you google. For many problems, I was able to look up solutions such as for colic and gas. My grandmother, RIP, started a charitable foundation in 1950 called "Young Mothers" where the community helped young families with a baby with tasks they didn't understand. Back in those days, most young mothers weren't alone. They had grandparents to help out or in the case of my grandmother, the local …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/11/21 03:28 PM
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Consider that in the old agricultural times, most women had to work in the fields alongside the men. Heck, most of the CHILDREN did as well. In extended families, the "housewife" was usually the grandparents who helped with infant care (they were masters of it) and did the light housekeeping. Without "social security", the family took care of them but also the grandparents helped out. The concept of a "bachelor pad" where some guy gets a house on his own to bring chicks home to bang was inconcei…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/11/21 03:16 PM
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It's rather amusing when men point out to them that not only are they NOT victims, but really the men are and they mock the men "Oh, so a REAL MAN claims to be a victim! Boo hoo Baby!" In other words, they view themselves as entitled infants to put on the chivalry pedestal and men should all be white knights without needs of any kind other than rescuing and pleasing her. She thinks this is perfectly fair since a Real Man should be like a comic book hero with superpowers. "Boys" to them are like …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/11/21 03:09 PM
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To her credit, I don't think she's promising even that. Did you ever hear the joke Reagan liked to tell about the child optimist who got a room full of shit for Christmas and excitedly proclaimed: "There's got to be a pony in here somewhere!" She expects him to find her "heart of gold" without her making an effort to even have one. It's the "Real Man" superman challenge: She's going to dump bills, sarcasm, and general nastiness on a "real man" because that's what he should enjoy doing. If you th…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/11/21 02:47 PM
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30 years ago, a woman at a dating agency pointed out to me that women are more likely to stick with a husband during serious illness. I looked it up, it's true. But... there's a catch: Seriously ill (married) men usually still have a means of support because we buy insurance since we care about our families. We "work" even when we're disabled. But when a woman gets ill, she often doesn't have insurance and the only thing holding him in the relationship is the warmth she expressed towards him in …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/11/21 02:34 PM
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Another comparison to milk is fertility. Women in their 30's fail to understand why men with money aren't in a rush to commit to them so they can have kids. Unlike certain things that go on "manager's special" at the supermarket, I've never seen milk ever marked down due to it being closer to expiration date. One pays the same price for milk that's 2 weeks out from expiration as 2 days. Hence, when it goes past the expiration date, they just pour it down the sink. Other stuff, however, can be a …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/11/21 06:30 PM
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One thing young women are good at reminding men is "we don't owe you anything". OK, let's turn that around: A man with a good job and life doesn't "owe" a single mother a bailout. If she wants companionship with him, to enjoy sex with him and to have a good man in her life, even in that limited way, then she shouldn't even DARE to demand a bailout. Heck, she ought to even demand to go dutch on dates to show she doesn't deserve a single thing from him. The only way women could ever demand somethi…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/11/21 12:12 AM
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The great response to this would be: Clean my house (after I've left it a mess) and then I'll cook dinner for you. Back in the early 90's, the golddiggers used to be a bit more subtle. They'd use terms such as "generous" or "gentlemenly" or "knows how to treat a lady". "Feed me" is so vulgar as if this should turn on men which, for some men sadly, it does get them going. Good news for guys who want to "save a ho'" is that there is no shortage of them out there now. If guys have money burning a h…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/11/21 09:46 PM
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You get a cookie. I caught as well that she was saying she was sarcastic but nicer "once he gets to know her" meaning that it's up to him to somehow put lipstick on the pig of her personality because she doesn't want to "dial it back." The big question is that the last two guys who got to know the "real her" must not have been satisfied with the heart-of-gold underneath her sarcastic exterior...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/11/21 09:42 PM
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Look at it sort of like milk. I'm not someone to fret about getting the absolute freshest milk and if I see it doesn't expire for 2 weeks, that's good enough for me. Milk tastes fine up to just about 2 or 3 days before it goes bad.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/11/21 09:21 PM
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She shows this as she says that she hates the man being "clingy" and "available". She wants someone whose dangerous, distant, and apathetic but yet somehow sticks around to have sex with her. This may explain why her previous relationships were abusive (too much bad boy) or the "good one" dumped her (got tired of having to put on a clown show for her.) An analogy I use is a roller coaster: They want the highs and lows of being terrified even as they want the ride to end safely perhaps after they…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/11/21 03:49 PM
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Modern women's first loyalty is towards The Matriarchy and Consumerism with their fathers, brothers, male friends, and even children nothing more than sacrificial lambs to their status in the coven.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/11/21 03:44 PM
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The comments below break this down pretty nicely, but I want to add a further facet: A proper, feminine woman would be able to commit without regard to "The tinglies" because submission WAS the "tinglies". "Chores" are what love is about. Consider this guy putting up with her nonsense. He's really the "woman" in this relationship: He's being emotionally supportive and putting aside his own needs to help her feel better. The man who brings home the bacon is expecting a quiet household with the ki…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/11/21 02:58 PM
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The Moody Blues video "Your Wildest Dreams" sums it up pretty nicely.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/11/21 02:46 PM
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She's at least reaching out for advice, sort of. Probably looking for the bucket crabs to reinforce her delusions and go down with the ship, though. It's one thing for someone, say, in their teens, even 20's, to be this shallow and entitled but if someone has past their halfway point in life but still hasn't gotten basic concepts of life, that's a significant problem. I was with a woman in her early 50's and she was great in bed and even could make herself hot looking with effort. After we broke…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/11/21 11:18 PM
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Good point in that if she was a good communicator, she would know how to express her (reasonable) boundaries and objectives without appearing "thirsty" (her words). What women may mean by "good communicator" is "standing up for yourself" or, like you said, expressing their demands and shopping lists. The tragedy is that although she has not yet hit the wall (since she claims to be able to pull down dates with men from dating apps), she lacks the self-awareness to do something with the resources …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/11/21 07:19 PM
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The problem is that dinner dating is a proxy for meal whoring. So-called gentlemen who really make no requirements for women to have sex while he's paying for months of meals risks being friend zoned by the women who wonder if he's really just weak. Men pressure women for sex because they don't want to be used. In the past, genuinely nice women who didn't want to go out for expensive dates and truly take things slow were shamed by the PUA guys who called them frigid but also mostly by other wome…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/11/21 04:12 PM
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Reading the below comments and between the lines, here's a 21 year old woman with multiple kids. She at least is young (or claims to be) but aside from that, wants the highest demand from a man (treat someone else's kids as his own) while providing nothing. She likes music and coffee, which isn't as snotty as some profiles we've seen here but nonetheless, she has provided absolutely nothing but a defiled albeit young womb. It's hard to say what may have happened, we have little to go on. Perhaps…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/11/21 03:37 PM
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