Patriarchy, Internalized Misogyny, Toxic Masculinity

Shadowdragon409 · 2023-02-22T03:50:26+00:00

Its not just women harming women. It's a woman having an independent thought. If she disagrees with the popular opinion, she's struggling with internalized misogyny.

Unnecessary_Timeline · 2023-02-22T04:38:58+00:00

It’s ironic because Feminists claim they want to give women choices; that they want women to have agency. But the very idea of toxic masculinity, or internalized misogyny, or the patriarchy, all depends upon the assumption that women have no agency at all. That women are only Items to be acted upon. That women’s participation in society consists only of reaction, never any self-directed action .

That women have no ability to express their own desire in life; they are always subject male desire. Women can only react to men’s decisions, they do not have the ability to act on their own.

Eternal victimhood. That’s what Feminism propagates. That women are unable to act upon their own volition; women can only respond to external social pressure from men.

Feminism propagates the harmful idea that women have no ability to direct to their own lives. Eternal victims who can only ever respond to their subjugation. That women are incapable of being self-directed agents in their life …unless they join the cult of Feminism.

StingRayFins · 2023-02-22T07:02:15+00:00

Yea it's pure evil. The system is engineered with a failsafe but in. No matter what happens it'll redirect the narrative to "men bad" and "it's all men's fault!"

It's sexism, misandry, and discrimination in its most vile form disguised as progress and justice.

pearl_harbour1941 · 2023-02-22T16:18:46+00:00

It's a religion.

It's Marxist Christianity.

Oppressor class/Oppressed class (Men/Women)

The Devil = Patriarchy

Salvation = "Equality"

The route to salvation is by atoning for your sins = paying penance to women

Babiesforfood · 2023-02-23T00:09:28+00:00

You fight it by calling it for what it is. If you hear someone say, "I mean, he probably deserved to get hit," turn around and confront that person. People can call you all the names in the book, but it's fucking alphabet soup. That's all it has ever been. The labels stick because we hold them onto ourselves and others.

You fight it by being unphased by it. Get called toxic? Shrug your shoulders and continue with your day, because how the fuck would some pretentious asshat know what kind of person you are, when you've never met before?

If someone complains about the patriarchy, just give them the truth, straight up: the patriarchy might not be perfect, but we live in decadence because of it. The phones we carry, the existence of twitter, of sciences and philosophies, of culture; it's all BECAUSE OF the Patriarchy.

Complaining about how bad patriarchal society is is akin to the child of a noble complaining that he has food to eat. They didn't grow it, they didn't work for it, so they have no right to speak ill of it.

If I'm coming across as aggressive, I don't mean to be. I just don't see the value in dragging men who have done nothing but lived their lives to the best of their ability, just so that some people can feel like they did something.

Lionheart27778 · 2023-02-22T09:47:34+00:00

Most of them are really just elaborate strawmen ,with vague and flexible meanings , so they can be applied to numerous situations in order to derail, gaslight or blame shift.

I generally find it mildly amusing that a few of these buzzwords like "manspreading , mansplaining" ext. Are sexist terms.

The irony of "fighting" perceived sexism with more sexism, seems lost on most people who spout them.

GltyUntlPrvnInncnt · 2023-02-22T17:04:21+00:00

Well, in feminists eyes, women are the victim no matter what. I really have no idea how to change that.

Equal-End7695 · 2023-02-22T09:28:27+00:00

I've recently learned the only answer I can give a feminist is "I know I'm a good man, nobody can take that away from me, but I also know you cannot fix anything when the goal posts are always being moved and everything is viewed as systemic".

hotpotato138 · 2023-02-22T14:26:45+00:00

They are idiots.

9pmt1ll1come · 2023-02-22T22:26:14+00:00

I’m banned on all women subs. You can’t even have a discussion there. They just look at your profile and straight up ban you. They’re not interested in having a conversation. You’re expected to either unconditionally support their bullshit agenda or get cancelled.

AllStickNoCarrot · 2023-02-22T04:36:45+00:00

Stop clinging to gender roles.

Broaden our definition of life success.

Build others up instead of tearing them down.

Let shit go.

granjero_jose · 2023-02-22T08:10:35+00:00

Women hurting men: patriarchy hurts men too 😉

SulkTv999 · 2023-02-23T01:25:49+00:00

You and me both pal. Ive been obssesed with how this worked

-GoldenHandTheJust- · 2023-02-22T19:40:13+00:00

those aren’t their definitions tho? in the correct context they make sense.

Title	Patriarchy, Internalized Misogyny, Toxic Masculinity
Author	IllustraSeris
Upvotes	91
Comments	31
Date	February 22, 2023 3:10 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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