Is simpery the BIGGEST Men issue ?

odysseytree · 2022-11-19T08:20:23+00:00

Simping is just another sexual/dating strategy that many men believe to work in dating. It doesn't.

Whiteknighting is the one that I find dangerous because it is based on an assumption that if you commit violence against men to defend the honour of any woman regardless of who is wrong, it will win you a date.

rainbow_bro_bot · 2022-11-19T13:04:01+00:00

If all men stopped simping today there would be mass panic amongst hundreds of thousands of women who don't do any other work because they all rely on men giving them money for nothing.

Frostodian · 2022-11-19T07:41:06+00:00

I think depression is the biggest mens issue

griii2 · 2022-11-19T17:37:32+00:00

BIGGEST men issue is the life gap. Men are dying prematurely and needlessly.

ItachiFckingUchiha · 2022-11-19T11:10:54+00:00

Being invisible is a man's biggest issue especially when you're a man in the slums of a third world country.

Roddy0608 · 2022-11-19T17:58:11+00:00

I wish men would stop using Only Fans.

heeroena · 2022-11-19T09:12:43+00:00

Yes although it is a symptom not the cause. The cause would probably be the feminisation of society while also making difficult for guys to have good masculine role models (most teachers nowadays are female) and male only groups where guys can discuss their issues without having to worry about judgement.

Cagalhone · 2022-11-19T08:37:49+00:00

I don't know why simpery exists but there should be some reason to it. How did it passed through generations and so many guys do it?

UnitedYoung7799 · 2022-11-19T19:04:31+00:00

I think it would all end if humans were bred Brave New World style. There would be no female family members to brainwash simps during their childhoods.

IdcImSpeakingFacts · 2022-11-19T11:25:13+00:00

Simping is a symptom. Men have just become weaker. Spiritually, physically, mentally, and emotionally. America is literally falling apart because men aren't refuting what's going on.

Remarkable-Cat1337 · 2022-11-19T10:11:58+00:00

or maybe other man are evolving to work and get money to have bad relationships mostly because depression

Reddit1984Censorship · 2022-11-19T11:30:59+00:00

But why is this simpery happening?
I think is because of feminist propaganda and censorship painting an overpositive image of women that brainwashes to beleive women are these perfect innocent angleical victims that must be simpined because that the only appropiate behaviour towards thes godlike creatures.
I see (for the most part) simps as victims of feminist one sided culture because they will sooner or later crash with reality and get hurt by it as many of us did.
So the solution is for the manosphere to function as an antidote that opens mens eyes to the culturaly hidden part of this subject.
Although MRA specifialy should only focus more concretly in rights, and other male spaces should engage the cultural side, i think that division is necessary.

Lolocraft1 · 2022-11-19T13:07:57+00:00

Exactly like feminism defend women’s right even though some radicalist want a society without men, or other who are very conservative and affirm that a woman’s place is in the kitchen.

Just because you have apart of a certain group doing something stupid doesn’t mean everybody of that group are the same, nor mean that what you’re defending is wrong.

It is logic, 100% people doing or agreeing to the same thing is nearly impossible. So someone who shit on MRA movement because some men simp is idiotic.

bifewova234 · 2022-11-19T10:38:55+00:00

The TV lied to them when it told them that simping gets them sex

AstoriaHat · 2022-11-19T13:28:26+00:00

This isn't a men's right issue at all. It's an interpersonal issue that impacts the individuals who do it.

Getting laid isn't a right.

Mens Rights issues involve the normalization of abuse against men and boys

Teaching boys they are toxic

Teaching girls it is ok for them to hit boys

A legal system stacked against fathers

A culture of for-profit divorce where men loose their assets and women gain a passive income stream

A society stacked against fatherhood

The normalization and social acceptance of female narcissism

All this being said we need to acknowledge that women still have a lot of issues they need to deal with as well. It's important not to let ourselves create an echo chamber the way feminists have.

Maybe men who are "simps" promote anti-male values to impress women but simping or being a simp isn't a mens rights issue. Basically if you are upset you aren't getting laid your issue isn't really a mens issue it's a you issue. The same way women with undesirable traits feel it is a feminist issue they aren't getting married or going on dates. Your personal romantic life is just that. Your personal life, not a social issue that society needs to solve.

Asenueh · 2022-11-19T15:06:40+00:00

The fact that someone would deride deferring to someone's opinion based on the identity of the person asserting the opinion is a logical fallacy, "Ergo Decedo."

Women are rightly resentful of the non-constructive intra-male bullying of men who treat women like equal fellow human beings with valid opinions, experiences and a command of facts, instead of a lower caste not worth listening to.

Happyasyougo76 · 2022-11-20T07:36:51+00:00

The first man who started all sin was a simp, so 🤷‍♂️

Edit: for the slow one’s, the first simp was Adam

sockhead0 · 2022-11-20T12:29:13+00:00

There are real issues people face and for men simping isn't an issue, it's a choice. At times the guy is just being a good person not expecting anything in return. That's not a simp. I'm pretty sure simp isn't the word to describe the current atmosphere of this comment thread.

FutbolIntellect · 2022-11-19T11:09:54+00:00

Simping and fake white knighting are generally done by weak men or incels who are lacking in confidence and are incapable of attracting women because of who they are. So instead of working hard on themselves, building a career or making good money they take the path of being submissive to women because they know its their only choice left.

As many would call these creatures as a " man " without values. To me, these incels are dangerous to our society. They follow the concept of submitting to others instead viewing everyone on equal grounds. Like the saying goes " If you think tough men are dangerous, wait until you see what weak men are capable of "

Asenueh · 2022-11-19T15:19:25+00:00

Patriarchy is the biggest problem of men, because its first demand of men is that they disregard their emotions, which are valuable data reporting the state of one's psyche.

After all, emotional discomfort is a symptom of one's boundaries being violated and when you're taught to disregard the symptoms, then you can be gaslit,... er- I mean "socialized" into toxic worldviews, behaviors and actions.

Being told that the very traits that can save you and advance your wellbeing are discouraged and derision-worthy, because they are assigned to women is one of the biggest mind-control cons in human history.

RandomedOne · 2022-11-19T13:56:44+00:00

I would say a tyrannical government are biggest men's issue.

Simping is more of our issue, Most men are simp and they enjoy simping to the point where they proudly throw away their human rights (and in the process our human right).

If most men want to put women in their place it would have happened already.

iwillprobneveruse · 2022-11-19T11:38:11+00:00

I find incels (who act in specifically antisocial ways or are angressive, like the extreme end) are probably the worst reflection of men usually

Then Simps, if they are causing harm or just being cringe.

Well in terms of people who arent causing a crime.

jjj2576 · 2022-11-19T14:44:34+00:00

Three or Four— at least.

SadPatient28 · 2022-11-19T16:23:25+00:00

i wonder if the guy who is AOC's boyfriend is available to comment...?

HaliFaxMachine42 · 2022-11-19T17:04:28+00:00

I mean, not the biggest one. I do like the word “simpery,” though.

Anxiety_Loop · 2022-11-19T18:45:44+00:00

It's definitely a huge issue. I feel sorry for those dudes.

TraehNoil · 2022-11-19T19:52:31+00:00

It is definitely in the top 3

MikiSayaka33 · 2022-11-19T21:10:04+00:00

Besides what odysee stated, I saw some simps attack women that don't subscribe to feminism.

There's also the honorable mention, since this is a cultural difference between Asia, the West and more of a parasocial issue. Some SIMPs got depressed when they found out/assumed that this streamer, Rushia, got a boyfriend. They played a part with getting her fired (But she broke the contract with the company that she worked for during that time, she was freaking out).

0R0V0H0 · 2022-11-19T23:18:42+00:00

NGL this sounds a little bit like victim blaming. I sleep with both men and women, and the men who come at me with “simp” tactics are clearly self-deprecating, manipulatively groveling and whining about how much better than them you are so you will feel like you have to be sexually or romantically involved to convince him he is worthy of basic humanity. Give him what he wants, or you are every evil person who has ever hurt or abandoned him.

This is clearly not mentally or emotionally healthy, and reeks of deep-seated mommy issues. More often than not, I find out after friendly conversation that these men were abused by some mother figure in their youth. Instead of further shaming these men who clearly have some kind of shame-obsession going for them already, I think it’s much more effective to ignore all attention-seeking behavior which involves self-harm or self-deprecation. Strongly shut down any and all behavior which places the woman they are pursuing on a pedestal, which is frequently uncomfortable for her as well. Social support needs to be given in a way which gives the man options for working through his feelings outside of sexual relationships.

Women who enjoy being treated like they are better than you while you grovel and hurt yourself at their feet are inclined to be ABUSIVE. Anyone who enjoys you lowering your status as a human being to please them is NOT HEALTHY to be in a relationship with.

It can be exhausting to stand-in for the “mommy” that traumatized men were once deprived of, but if we ever want anything even remotely resembling a healthy, happy society, we NEED to be there for each other. We need to support people when they display this kind of deep, internalized hurt.

Just, you know. Carefully, because mommy issues make people fucking crazy and your “simp” might spontaneously decide to off himself because his mommy stand-in won’t love him.

somethingneet · 2022-11-19T23:31:50+00:00

It's up there. Simps ruin everything for the rest of us.

beleidigtewurst · 2022-11-19T23:53:15+00:00

No, as it is a choice one makes.

nicholascox2 · 2022-11-20T00:51:13+00:00

I mean kind of but it's because the emotional repression makes men generally lonelier than a woman. I kind of agree with not using the word negatively. It can be mostly a good thing for the girl at least

KamadoJonathan · 2022-11-22T13:17:25+00:00

The problem with Simping is it teaches (some) women they can get away with disrespecting men because someone else will always put up with it.

young_money_bukkake · 2023-01-18T00:33:16+00:00

No. It’s conscription. An estimated 200 million men have died in wars since WWI, mostly forced into it through virtue of being born male.

Title	Is simpery the BIGGEST Men issue ?
Author	IllustraSeris
Upvotes	217
Comments	83
Date	November 19, 2022 7:37 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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