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Another space for men down: "In Major Shift, Boy Scouts Says It Will Begin Allowing Girls To Join" -NPR

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October 11, 2017
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http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/10/11/557144847/in-major-shift-boy-scouts-says-it-will-begin-allowing-girls-to-join
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Title Another space for men down: "In Major Shift, Boy Scouts Says It Will Begin Allowing Girls To Join" -NPR
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Upvotes 49
Comments 20
Date October 11, 2017 11:03 PM UTC
(8 years ago)
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[–]S3xb3ard 14 points15 points16 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Are they going to change their name to “Politically Gender Neutral Child Scouts” too?

[–]ubertrashcat 11 points12 points13 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

And it will kill the drive in boys and floor their self-esteem, because young girls outperform them in most ways and are more disciplined.

[–]BetterBadIdeas 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As a scouter I was worried but it turns out this isn't actually much of a shakeup. Girls in Cub scouts will be in their own packs and the program for older girls will be separate (like the coed venture scouts are already. In fact if I had to guess they'll just tweek the venture scouts program to include a path to eagle and call it a day). The male space e of boy scouts isn't in jeapordy. Full integration wasn't even an option on the survey the BSA sent out.

This is just a token change to get people off their back and maybe boost recruitment. Not the fundamental change it's being made out to be.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

and if Europe is anything to go by, the systemic lack of masculinity can be easily alleviated by supporting mass migration from Islamic-majority nations.

[–]MagicTampon6 points 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Boy Scouts: - yet another gynocentric shithole.

Won't be sending my sons there.

[–]autotldr 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 79%. (I'm a bot)


In Major Shift, Boy Scouts Says It Will Begin Allowing Girls To Join : The Two-Way The Boy Scouts of America says that girls can join its Cub Scout program beginning next year and that it hopes to have a program in place for older girls in 2019.

In a move that shakes up more than a century of tradition, the Boy Scouts of America announced Wednesday that starting next year, it will welcome girls into some Scouting programs.

In a scathing letter published by BuzzFeed News at the time, Girl Scouts National Board President Kathy Hopinkah Hannan called the Boy Scouts' plan unsettling and said it would only serve to undercut the Girl Scouts.


Extended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Scout#1 Girl#2 Boy#3 program#4 year#5

[–]silvertail8 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good bot

[–]BlindGardener 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd rather join the girl scouts. They have cookies

[–]dontpet 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

My son has been going to scouts in New Zealand for about 4 months. It has girls in it.

The world didn't end. Really.

I get the possibility of it being a barrier for a boy to enter guides, but really. If this is what we are fighting for, then I am done.

[–]bufedad 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So, like the circumcised at birth, you don't notice the difference and therefore there must be no difference.

Are the girls allowed to disappear alone with the boys into the woods for an hour or more without direct suit supervision? No, because that would put everyone at risk. The result is less independence and less leadership in boy scouts.

The world wouldn't end by requiring sororities to be coed, but it definitely changes the experience drastically.

[–]Tankimus -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Girls have been allowed into the UK scouts since the 90's, nothing changed. Even though the rest of the scouting world has already proven that girls in scouting isn't an issue, people will start inventing problems.

[–]Clongjax 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Liberals are winning

[–]chambertlo 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Haha. That’s what the media wants you to believe.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

they've taken over the base: children. they use people's emotions against them with cunning effectiveness. they control the cultural narratives through colege, hollywood, comics, videogames, google, etc.

yes. they are. this is truly a war for hearts and minds.

[–]whitemanrunning 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It will be real easy to bypass this. With the massive movement of non present parents, the girls will not be allowed at meeting or functions unless there will be female leadership present. This means that mom's will have to take the BSA training for female leaders and actually be at the meetings in an official capacity. I don't see this as happening too often. Far too many mom's just drop their kids off at scouting. I'm a former Cubs scout and venture scout leader.

[–]RedPillAlphaBigCock 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I actually think this is a good thing. Just so long as there is no Feminism bullshit ideologies pushed

[–]CristiTanase 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I rather have a free informal space than a supervised formal one. Men have been socialized by force for decades and the result is not good.

We learn to be obedient, silent, always waiting for orders. These spaces are also breeding ground for feminism, just as schools and colleges.

Men and boys must aim for informal spaces. Forming bonds on the spot, having friends and creating their own "micro spaces" (I hate that word so much) where they can feel truly free to talk about whatever they like.

The larger the space, the higher the pressure to conform! And men are already the most pressured group in the west.

The more you think about it the more you realize that decentralized solutions are the best choice in a future where everyone and everything will be judged and policed by the mainstream dogma of the moment.

[–]theothermod[M] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You have been shadowbanned by reddit admins (not by mensrights moderators). See /r/ShadowBan for information about shadowbans.

I have approved this comment so I can reply to you.

It seems Reddit has a bot that looks for certain types of user behaviour that indicate spamming or brigading. Sometimes innocent users get shadowbanned along with the bad guys. Usually they can fix this if they contact the admins.

[–]_Thurston_Howell_ -3 points-2 points-1 points 8 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Because rational and reasonable parents have been boycotting the Boy Scouts of America ever since they started allowing homosexuals and transexuals into the BSA, and now the BSA is hurting financially, so BSA administration went after some girl money. Boycott the BSA even more, IMO. Deprive the BSA of financing until it's gone, then maybe something better can be built from its smoldering ash heap.

[–]CristiTanase 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

once you go SJW there is no going back, the last stop is BANKRUPTCY

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