What is your opinion of The Good Man Project?

fengpi · 2017-09-17T06:32:57+00:00

I think it's a feminist-established attempt to get men to toe their Party Line under the belief that men would only pay attention to other men. And that any genuinely pro-male article would be rejected there.

2017-09-17T09:53:26+00:00

It was given an apt nickname early on: The "Good Boy!" Project.

Greg_W_Allan · 2017-09-17T10:15:41+00:00

It's a women's magazine.

2017-09-17T12:25:38+00:00

https://toysoldier.wordpress.com/2014/08/06/you-have-to-ask/

I noticed a trend among the published articles on GMP. For every pro-male article published, GMP will publish three or four articles deriding or criticizing it. If someone writes something positive about fathers, three or four articles about mothers being fathers, “non-traditional” fathers, or something tearing down fatherhood will pop up. If someone writes positively about male bonding, three or four articles about frat boys, bros, or whatever negative euphemism will pop up. If someone writes about male survivors of sexual or domestic violence, three or four or more articles about sexual violence against women, street harassment, and “rape culture” will pop up.

Should there be a crime that garners national or international attentions, things become more unbalanced. For example, GMP ran far more articles about the need to remove men from positions of power and replace them with women than articles about male survivors following the Jerry Sandusky case. GMP ran twice as many articles about the Steubenville case than the Sandusky trial, many of them letters to existing and future sons about how not to be rapists. The same thing occurred following the Santa Barbara killing spree and the Boko Haram kidnappings.

Feminists vs. Good Men Project: Matlack Makes a Stand, Then Disappoints

Tom Matlack, who founded the Good Men Project in part with the well-meaning, if naive, idea that a process of self-improvement, introspection and mutual respect between the sexes could solve many of the problems that beset men and bring about some resolution of the gender wars, has sailed directly into a feminist broadside unleashed by the usual suspects.

Matlack, apparently frustrated by pervasive man-bashing, wrote an article in defense of men titled “Being a Dude is a Good Thing.” It’s actually quite reasonable, and could only be interpreted as provocative by those who ascribe to radical feminism.

Men know women are different. They think differently, they express emotion differently, they are motivated by different things, they think about sex differently, and they use a very different vocabulary. Why can't women accept men for who they really are? Is a good man more like a woman or more truly masculine?

So, having written a piece in which he admits to being frustrated and a bit confused by mixed messages – in other words, an entirely normal male reaction to women’s conflicting demands – but not going after women or feminists in any direct manner, Tom is promptly attacked by all manner of feminists for not being the kind of “Good Man” they expect him to be...

How Discussions About Men End Up Being About What Women Want From Men

I kinda feel sorry for Tom. I bought and read the original Good Men Project book, with the idea of either reviewing it or trashing it for The Spearhead. I ended up doing neither. I wasn’t sure how to feel about the book. It was good and bad. But that’s what I liked about it. There was honesty to it, and some moral ambivalence. It felt real — despite its potential to be preachy or “goody-goody”–and I couldn’t shake the sense that Tom (like Brett from Art of Manliness) was probably a pretty decent guy who was trying to do something good.

... But you can’t do that today. You can’t have a space specifically for men unless women are called in as moderators.

... Tom, you let women and feminists run your site, so you got a feminist site. The Good Men Project reads like Feministing for men. And, like those mall stores that try to spinoff their successful women’s stores, most men are going to smell something fishy and avoid it.

(There was some disruption to service while I was trying to submit this, so apologies if this appears in quintuplicate)

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2017-09-17T12:47:03+00:00

Any men's movement that is based around advancing feminism is useless as an actual men's movement.

furchfur · 2017-09-17T09:44:49+00:00

Stay away from it. They need a good woman project.

andejoh · 2017-09-17T15:49:40+00:00

I've noticed that a lot of long time posters who are MRA friendly are on permanent moderation. That wouldn't be problematic in itself, but looking at some of the comments / responses, it looks to me that several obvious man haters (probably feminists, but I haven't established that conclusively) are not on permanent moderation.

They're not so much concerned with having the conversation no one else is having as much as differentiating their product from the other feminist websites out there.

Sasha_ · 2017-09-17T17:11:24+00:00

It's a bit like Manboobz in that it's a site that was a story a few lifetime's ago but now no-one in the MRM even thinks about them anymore.

PS; Whatever became of that Schzietzer chap from California who was big feminist icon a few years back? I know he went off the ralls quite badly and thought the same would happen to Fetrelll and his mates.

DaeusPater · 2017-09-17T18:31:25+00:00

Men's magazine written by women and feminists

Source_or_gtfo · 2017-09-17T18:32:48+00:00

Imagine if there was a "good woman project"...

2017-09-18T16:51:34+00:00

Utter drivel. Calling it an aborted dumpster fire is too good for it. Same with men's lib.

2017-09-21T05:30:57+00:00

It's a farce created by feminists.

No more than lip service at best, but far closer to doing outright harm in reality.

2017-09-17T12:06:23+00:00

https://toysoldier.wordpress.com/2014/08/06/you-have-to-ask/

I noticed a trend among the published articles on GMP. For every pro-male article published, GMP will publish three or four articles deriding or criticizing it. If someone writes something positive about fathers, three or four articles about mothers being fathers, “non-traditional” fathers, or something tearing down fatherhood will pop up. If someone writes positively about male bonding, three or four articles about frat boys, bros, or whatever negative euphemism will pop up. If someone writes about male survivors of sexual or domestic violence, three or four or more articles about sexual violence against women, street harassment, and “rape culture” will pop up.

Should there be a crime that garners national or international attentions, things become more unbalanced. For example, GMP ran far more articles about the need to remove men from positions of power and replace them with women than articles about male survivors following the Jerry Sandusky case. GMP ran twice as many articles about the Steubenville case than the Sandusky trial, many of them letters to existing and future sons about how not to be rapists. The same thing occurred following the Santa Barbara killing spree and the Boko Haram kidnappings.

Feminists vs. Good Men Project: Matlack Makes a Stand, Then Disappoints

Tom Matlack, who founded the Good Men Project in part with the well-meaning, if naive, idea that a process of self-improvement, introspection and mutual respect between the sexes could solve many of the problems that beset men and bring about some resolution of the gender wars, has sailed directly into a feminist broadside unleashed by the usual suspects.

Matlack, apparently frustrated by pervasive man-bashing, wrote an article in defense of men titled “Being a Dude is a Good Thing.” It’s actually quite reasonable, and could only be interpreted as provocative by those who ascribe to radical feminism.

Men know women are different. They think differently, they express emotion differently, they are motivated by different things, they think about sex differently, and they use a very different vocabulary. Why can't women accept men for who they really are? Is a good man more like a woman or more truly masculine?

So, having written a piece in which he admits to being frustrated and a bit confused by mixed messages – in other words, an entirely normal male reaction to women’s conflicting demands – but not going after women or feminists in any direct manner, Tom is promptly attacked by all manner of feminists for not being the kind of “Good Man” they expect him to be...

How Discussions About Men End Up Being About What Women Want From Men

I kinda feel sorry for Tom. I bought and read the original Good Men Project book, with the idea of either reviewing it or trashing it for The Spearhead. I ended up doing neither. I wasn’t sure how to feel about the book. It was good and bad. But that’s what I liked about it. There was honesty to it, and some moral ambivalence. It felt real — despite its potential to be preachy or “goody-goody”–and I couldn’t shake the sense that Tom (like Brett from Art of Manliness) was probably a pretty decent guy who was trying to do something good.

... But you can’t do that today. You can’t have a space specifically for men unless women are called in as moderators.

... Tom, you let women and feminists run your site, so you got a feminist site. The Good Men Project reads like Feministing for men. And, like those mall stores that try to spinoff their successful women’s stores, most men are going to smell something fishy and avoid it.

2017-09-17T12:06:28+00:00

https://toysoldier.wordpress.com/2014/08/06/you-have-to-ask/

I noticed a trend among the published articles on GMP. For every pro-male article published, GMP will publish three or four articles deriding or criticizing it. If someone writes something positive about fathers, three or four articles about mothers being fathers, “non-traditional” fathers, or something tearing down fatherhood will pop up. If someone writes positively about male bonding, three or four articles about frat boys, bros, or whatever negative euphemism will pop up. If someone writes about male survivors of sexual or domestic violence, three or four or more articles about sexual violence against women, street harassment, and “rape culture” will pop up.

Should there be a crime that garners national or international attentions, things become more unbalanced. For example, GMP ran far more articles about the need to remove men from positions of power and replace them with women than articles about male survivors following the Jerry Sandusky case. GMP ran twice as many articles about the Steubenville case than the Sandusky trial, many of them letters to existing and future sons about how not to be rapists. The same thing occurred following the Santa Barbara killing spree and the Boko Haram kidnappings.

Feminists vs. Good Men Project: Matlack Makes a Stand, Then Disappoints

Tom Matlack, who founded the Good Men Project in part with the well-meaning, if naive, idea that a process of self-improvement, introspection and mutual respect between the sexes could solve many of the problems that beset men and bring about some resolution of the gender wars, has sailed directly into a feminist broadside unleashed by the usual suspects.

Matlack, apparently frustrated by pervasive man-bashing, wrote an article in defense of men titled “Being a Dude is a Good Thing.” It’s actually quite reasonable, and could only be interpreted as provocative by those who ascribe to radical feminism.

Men know women are different. They think differently, they express emotion differently, they are motivated by different things, they think about sex differently, and they use a very different vocabulary. Why can't women accept men for who they really are? Is a good man more like a woman or more truly masculine?

So, having written a piece in which he admits to being frustrated and a bit confused by mixed messages – in other words, an entirely normal male reaction to women’s conflicting demands – but not going after women or feminists in any direct manner, Tom is promptly attacked by all manner of feminists for not being the kind of “Good Man” they expect him to be...

How Discussions About Men End Up Being About What Women Want From Men

I kinda feel sorry for Tom. I bought and read the original Good Men Project book, with the idea of either reviewing it or trashing it for The Spearhead. I ended up doing neither. I wasn’t sure how to feel about the book. It was good and bad. But that’s what I liked about it. There was honesty to it, and some moral ambivalence. It felt real — despite its potential to be preachy or “goody-goody”–and I couldn’t shake the sense that Tom (like Brett from Art of Manliness) was probably a pretty decent guy who was trying to do something good.

... But you can’t do that today. You can’t have a space specifically for men unless women are called in as moderators.

... Tom, you let women and feminists run your site, so you got a feminist site. The Good Men Project reads like Feministing for men. And, like those mall stores that try to spinoff their successful women’s stores, most men are going to smell something fishy and avoid it.

2017-09-17T12:07:25+00:00

https://toysoldier.wordpress.com/2014/08/06/you-have-to-ask/

I noticed a trend among the published articles on GMP. For every pro-male article published, GMP will publish three or four articles deriding or criticizing it. If someone writes something positive about fathers, three or four articles about mothers being fathers, “non-traditional” fathers, or something tearing down fatherhood will pop up. If someone writes positively about male bonding, three or four articles about frat boys, bros, or whatever negative euphemism will pop up. If someone writes about male survivors of sexual or domestic violence, three or four or more articles about sexual violence against women, street harassment, and “rape culture” will pop up.

Should there be a crime that garners national or international attentions, things become more unbalanced. For example, GMP ran far more articles about the need to remove men from positions of power and replace them with women than articles about male survivors following the Jerry Sandusky case. GMP ran twice as many articles about the Steubenville case than the Sandusky trial, many of them letters to existing and future sons about how not to be rapists. The same thing occurred following the Santa Barbara killing spree and the Boko Haram kidnappings.

Feminists vs. Good Men Project: Matlack Makes a Stand, Then Disappoints

Tom Matlack, who founded the Good Men Project in part with the well-meaning, if naive, idea that a process of self-improvement, introspection and mutual respect between the sexes could solve many of the problems that beset men and bring about some resolution of the gender wars, has sailed directly into a feminist broadside unleashed by the usual suspects.

Matlack, apparently frustrated by pervasive man-bashing, wrote an article in defense of men titled “Being a Dude is a Good Thing.” It’s actually quite reasonable, and could only be interpreted as provocative by those who ascribe to radical feminism.

Men know women are different. They think differently, they express emotion differently, they are motivated by different things, they think about sex differently, and they use a very different vocabulary. Why can't women accept men for who they really are? Is a good man more like a woman or more truly masculine?

So, having written a piece in which he admits to being frustrated and a bit confused by mixed messages – in other words, an entirely normal male reaction to women’s conflicting demands – but not going after women or feminists in any direct manner, Tom is promptly attacked by all manner of feminists for not being the kind of “Good Man” they expect him to be...

How Discussions About Men End Up Being About What Women Want From Men

I kinda feel sorry for Tom. I bought and read the original Good Men Project book, with the idea of either reviewing it or trashing it for The Spearhead. I ended up doing neither. I wasn’t sure how to feel about the book. It was good and bad. But that’s what I liked about it. There was honesty to it, and some moral ambivalence. It felt real — despite its potential to be preachy or “goody-goody”–and I couldn’t shake the sense that Tom (like Brett from Art of Manliness) was probably a pretty decent guy who was trying to do something good.

... But you can’t do that today. You can’t have a space specifically for men unless women are called in as moderators.

... Tom, you let women and feminists run your site, so you got a feminist site. The Good Men Project reads like Feministing for men. And, like those mall stores that try to spinoff their successful women’s stores, most men are going to smell something fishy and avoid it.

2017-09-17T12:08:02+00:00

https://toysoldier.wordpress.com/2014/08/06/you-have-to-ask/

I noticed a trend among the published articles on GMP. For every pro-male article published, GMP will publish three or four articles deriding or criticizing it. If someone writes something positive about fathers, three or four articles about mothers being fathers, “non-traditional” fathers, or something tearing down fatherhood will pop up. If someone writes positively about male bonding, three or four articles about frat boys, bros, or whatever negative euphemism will pop up. If someone writes about male survivors of sexual or domestic violence, three or four or more articles about sexual violence against women, street harassment, and “rape culture” will pop up.

Should there be a crime that garners national or international attentions, things become more unbalanced. For example, GMP ran far more articles about the need to remove men from positions of power and replace them with women than articles about male survivors following the Jerry Sandusky case. GMP ran twice as many articles about the Steubenville case than the Sandusky trial, many of them letters to existing and future sons about how not to be rapists. The same thing occurred following the Santa Barbara killing spree and the Boko Haram kidnappings.

Feminists vs. Good Men Project: Matlack Makes a Stand, Then Disappoints

Tom Matlack, who founded the Good Men Project in part with the well-meaning, if naive, idea that a process of self-improvement, introspection and mutual respect between the sexes could solve many of the problems that beset men and bring about some resolution of the gender wars, has sailed directly into a feminist broadside unleashed by the usual suspects.

Matlack, apparently frustrated by pervasive man-bashing, wrote an article in defense of men titled “Being a Dude is a Good Thing.” It’s actually quite reasonable, and could only be interpreted as provocative by those who ascribe to radical feminism.

Men know women are different. They think differently, they express emotion differently, they are motivated by different things, they think about sex differently, and they use a very different vocabulary. Why can't women accept men for who they really are? Is a good man more like a woman or more truly masculine?

So, having written a piece in which he admits to being frustrated and a bit confused by mixed messages – in other words, an entirely normal male reaction to women’s conflicting demands – but not going after women or feminists in any direct manner, Tom is promptly attacked by all manner of feminists for not being the kind of “Good Man” they expect him to be...

How Discussions About Men End Up Being About What Women Want From Men

I kinda feel sorry for Tom. I bought and read the original Good Men Project book, with the idea of either reviewing it or trashing it for The Spearhead. I ended up doing neither. I wasn’t sure how to feel about the book. It was good and bad. But that’s what I liked about it. There was honesty to it, and some moral ambivalence. It felt real — despite its potential to be preachy or “goody-goody”–and I couldn’t shake the sense that Tom (like Brett from Art of Manliness) was probably a pretty decent guy who was trying to do something good.

... But you can’t do that today. You can’t have a space specifically for men unless women are called in as moderators.

... Tom, you let women and feminists run your site, so you got a feminist site. The Good Men Project reads like Feministing for men. And, like those mall stores that try to spinoff their successful women’s stores, most men are going to smell something fishy and avoid it.

fengpi · 2017-09-17T12:08:32+00:00

So why'd you ask?

2017-09-17T12:09:50+00:00

https://toysoldier.wordpress.com/2014/08/06/you-have-to-ask/

I noticed a trend among the published articles on GMP. For every pro-male article published, GMP will publish three or four articles deriding or criticizing it. If someone writes something positive about fathers, three or four articles about mothers being fathers, “non-traditional” fathers, or something tearing down fatherhood will pop up. If someone writes positively about male bonding, three or four articles about frat boys, bros, or whatever negative euphemism will pop up. If someone writes about male survivors of sexual or domestic violence, three or four or more articles about sexual violence against women, street harassment, and “rape culture” will pop up.

Should there be a crime that garners national or international attentions, things become more unbalanced. For example, GMP ran far more articles about the need to remove men from positions of power and replace them with women than articles about male survivors following the Jerry Sandusky case. GMP ran twice as many articles about the Steubenville case than the Sandusky trial, many of them letters to existing and future sons about how not to be rapists. The same thing occurred following the Santa Barbara killing spree and the Boko Haram kidnappings.

Feminists vs. Good Men Project: Matlack Makes a Stand, Then Disappoints

Tom Matlack, who founded the Good Men Project in part with the well-meaning, if naive, idea that a process of self-improvement, introspection and mutual respect between the sexes could solve many of the problems that beset men and bring about some resolution of the gender wars, has sailed directly into a feminist broadside unleashed by the usual suspects.

Matlack, apparently frustrated by pervasive man-bashing, wrote an article in defense of men titled “Being a Dude is a Good Thing.” It’s actually quite reasonable, and could only be interpreted as provocative by those who ascribe to radical feminism.

Men know women are different. They think differently, they express emotion differently, they are motivated by different things, they think about sex differently, and they use a very different vocabulary. Why can't women accept men for who they really are? Is a good man more like a woman or more truly masculine?

So, having written a piece in which he admits to being frustrated and a bit confused by mixed messages – in other words, an entirely normal male reaction to women’s conflicting demands – but not going after women or feminists in any direct manner, Tom is promptly attacked by all manner of feminists for not being the kind of “Good Man” they expect him to be...

How Discussions About Men End Up Being About What Women Want From Men

I kinda feel sorry for Tom. I bought and read the original Good Men Project book, with the idea of either reviewing it or trashing it for The Spearhead. I ended up doing neither. I wasn’t sure how to feel about the book. It was good and bad. But that’s what I liked about it. There was honesty to it, and some moral ambivalence. It felt real — despite its potential to be preachy or “goody-goody”–and I couldn’t shake the sense that Tom (like Brett from Art of Manliness) was probably a pretty decent guy who was trying to do something good.

... But you can’t do that today. You can’t have a space specifically for men unless women are called in as moderators.

... Tom, you let women and feminists run your site, so you got a feminist site. The Good Men Project reads like Feministing for men. And, like those mall stores that try to spinoff their successful women’s stores, most men are going to smell something fishy and avoid it.

Albertsongman · 2022-10-10T19:44:48+00:00

He advocated communication between sexes and self-improvement. He presented his version of self-improvement. … Listening instead of arguing has societal benefits.

Title	What is your opinion of The Good Man Project?
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Date	September 17, 2017 6:07 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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