Rant: I have a love-hate relationship with this subreddit

theothermod · 2018-03-17T07:15:19+00:00

Take a break from the Internet for a while, especially the parts that deal with injustice towards men. There's nothing wrong with taking a month or a year off - we'll still be here if and when you come back.

Find a place where there are positive women - some Facebook groups are pro-men and there are others that have no relation to gender politics at all.

Develop a hobby that requires a bit of concentration, so you can think about that instead of the unfairness of life.

Maybe even see a psychologist - not because you're mentally ill but because you're sane and you need a way to concentrate on the positive side of life.

If you feel yourself being sucked down that hole, just remember that the majority of men don't even realise that it exists. You can be one of them for a while. :)

HeForeverBleeds · 2018-03-17T06:04:46+00:00

I know how infuriating it is. Even before I discovered the MRM, I was aware of the misandry in society, because I've both experienced and witnessed a lot of the kind of injustice discussed here first-hand. So for me, discovering that there were a bunch of other people who had noticed it was a relief rather than a burden, because it helped me make sense of my own experiences

I don't wish that I hadn't discovered men's rights, because that solves nothing. I wish that more people discovered men's rights

iainmf · 2018-03-17T09:10:38+00:00

What is the point of our activism if we know we will never win? No progress has been made so far, and I highly any progress will ever be made.

Recently, the New Zealand Human Rights Commission conducted a series of meetings for people to raise issues they want included in our upcoming report to the UN human rights committee. They visited 8 centres around the country. I was in one of the last places and they said that they had a lot of people around the country raising men's issues. This was a significant change from last time. It looks like more people are raising men's issues and it is getting more traction.

Overall it was quite promising and I am cautiously optimistic that we have made good progress. I think lots of stuff is slowly changing, it's just that it is mostly grassroots and not very obvious.

My suggestion is that first you look after yourself. Making your life better contributes in a small way to the overall well-being of all men (and all people).

mwobuddy · 2018-03-17T05:30:50+00:00

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/it-was-my-privilege

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/570/567/060.jpg

Vandechoz · 2018-03-17T04:45:13+00:00

the steak is your male privilege

mensmod · 2018-03-17T15:46:55+00:00

I was like that for a few years, when I first got into the MRM.

Now, all the negative stories are par for the course - I see them as the norm, not as some revelation of new injustice. Thus, every time a positive story comes along, I see it as a refreshing hope for the future.

The world already was shit, you just didn't know about it. Focus on the good, positive stories/links/discussions, and you will be much happier.

DignifiedAlpaca · 2018-03-17T11:57:07+00:00

If it makes you feel any better, I would say that our issues are definitely not being ignored... they are actually gaining traction.

I have, for example, seen multiple articles from major news sources mentioning the idea of financial abortion even though that is an idea that came from the men's rights movement. Another thing, regardless of whether you see yourself more on the right or the left politically, I think it is interesting to note that Fox News is running a series this month called "Men In America" focusing specifically on men's issues. And even here in Seattle where I live, the feminist-dominated government agreed to put gigantic fancy moustaches on the passenger ferries to help promote the Movember charity last November.

So all in all, I would say we are actually doing quite well in terms of making progress, even if the current state of things seems miserable on the surface.

Here are links for the things I mentioned (especially watch the YouTube one if you feel like you are doubting everything I just said): http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-04/financial-abortion-men-opt-out-parenthood/8049576

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfuOtGLfg04

https://www.wsdot.wa.gov/news/2017/11/02/first-ever-partnership-make-hairy-ferry-movember

Lethn · 2018-03-17T14:02:11+00:00

It's absolutely normal to be that way with regards to this stuff, what you're feeling is stress from having to think about it all. One thing I do with social media is because all of this stuff is spilling out all over the place I make sure that before I even log on I'm in a good mood to deal with all.

Sometimes I won't pop on at all for awhile, sometimes I'll make sure I have my coffee in the morning first. This way you prevent yourself from losing your temper and lashing out when the morons try hopping onto the sub to pick a fight. It's good practice and I wish somebody had taught me all this stuff about stress generally. With work for example I actually do far better in short bursts at times with long breaks then other times if I'm completely obsessed I flip things around.

It all depends on what you're like with anything, the irony of it is, even simply talking about men's issues because of all the factors you're having to deal with you have to know about stress levels and how to manage yourself well in order to be effective at it.

One thing I always advise for example if you're in one of these horrible ideological left wing bubbles that we've all heard about, get out of there for a bit. Go and find another city in your own country and explore, you'd be surprised at how drastically opinions and even peoples' demeanour changes especially if you're in a particularly bad area.

Because I've grown up in Bradford all my life I couldn't get over when the ethnic makeup of my country as I was learning just how fucking white the rest of the country was compared to the self-segregated bubble that I'm currently living in, it was pretty disturbing and unusual. It also explained to me why a lot of feminists and SJWs say the things that they do and why they're so obsessed with 'diversity'. It's because these horrible cunts are living in bubble communities themselves and on top of that are living in communities that are going to be something like 90% white if I'm generous and don't have to face the consequences of the ideology they're pushing.

They can do whatever the fuck they like while hiding behind their gated communities and their security and the rest of the country is the one that has to deal with their open border fanaticism and calling anybody who wants to stop anybody with violent intentions coming into this country racist. It was a really eye opening moment for me but it also showed me that this mentality is definitely not the norm and these people simply have access to television and radio in order to spew out their message without any repercussions for it so it sends people into despair who don't know any better.

We're going to win though, I'm going to see to it personally. The first step is going to be breaking these bubble communities but we're going to have to use something very intense to do it because they just ignore or attack anybody who brings up points politely. Whenever these people actually have to go up against somebody who can fight back and fight back properly they are completely inept. In fact it makes me wonder how they've managed to get away with their behaviour for so long.

Oh and these strange bubble communities especially places like Hollywood are exactly why feminists think what they do about men generally. They are deliberately choosing to hang out with the worse types of men possible and then they're blaming the rest of us for it, because they're very often living in rich and gated communities where there are quite a few power hungry and corrupt scumbags living there they suddenly wonder why the men there are treating them like shit. So in the end, it's purely because they have terrible taste in men that they're pinning all of these problems onto people like us who they have never even spoken to and saying "Fix it you horrible straight white male".

BlackHole94 · 2018-03-17T20:17:23+00:00

OP, you are mistaken if you think we will never win.

There was a time when the early feminist movement had a lot of opposition.

In fact, any progressive movement seeking change usually comes out successful in the end. You may repress this movement for some time, however in the end it comes successful. The more you repress the movement, the more the movement gets infuriated and gets stronger.

Don’t lose hope.

Rethgil · 2018-03-17T21:48:48+00:00

I take short breaks from it myself. Its important to have a balance that works for you. The reality IS painful, IS hard. The fact it gets to you just shows you are human. There'd be something wrong with you if it DIDN'T bother you.

If you don't take care of yourself, you can't take care of anything else.

Its a hard time to be a man. Thata the reality. But its also why we're here. It takes strength and stamina and wise judgement to fight the good fight, and to know when to replenish your energy.

Hope to see you back here when you've done that, ready to chase the change. The more of us there are, the stronger we become. Its still a relatively new movement, and considering its age, we're not doing badly, have won some important battles, begun to get some widespread attention, and are no longer unheard of or unknown. Its a process, not a sprint.

Skeptitude- · 2018-03-17T06:11:08+00:00

/r/TheRedPill

DeliciousMadame84 · 2022-09-04T05:34:03+00:00

I created r/TrueMRA with more reasonable anti-troll curation and moderation than is afforded elsewhere.

Title	Rant: I have a love-hate relationship with this subreddit
Author	CanadianAsshole1
Upvotes	30
Comments	30
Date	March 17, 2018 4:33 AM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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