How to avoid women who treat you as a plan B. And where to find women who only want to be with you.

ReturnsOver · 2019-01-05T18:10:17+00:00

The cognitive dissonance that exists in this sub is real.

"Men do the approach, you're a bitch if you expect women to make the move, your imperative as a man is to take action and create your reality"

"Don't make the move, let her do it or you're ending up with someone not fully into you."

"Don't complain if you're not approaching and not getting laid and meeting new people"

mejakejohnson · 2019-01-05T16:07:43+00:00

Where's the part that tells us where to find the latter?😶

GregHouse · 2019-01-05T17:50:47+00:00

Do not use Tinder either. Fuck Tinder and the hyperinflation of the subpar creatures that haunt it.

YesIamALizard · 2019-01-05T17:01:55+00:00

If you think you can stop a woman from monkey branching you're an idiot

Kpwn88 · 2019-01-06T00:17:30+00:00

more importantly, I didn't initiate

This is key here fellas. Whenever I discuss with other red pill guys the fact that I married one of my plates, they fail to understand this concept. They assume I'm not really woke, when ironically the godfather of the red pill, Rollo Tomassi, is married himself.

Don't get me wrong. Just like Rollo, I don't advocate marriage. It is something most guys simply won't ever be in the right situation to pull of in this day and age. However, if you want to start a family someday, marriage aside, here are some things to consider when vetting a woman for ltr/family.

She initiated, and chased me the entire way. So this will be the metric she will judge all other men. When a woman continues to chase you and even drops contact with all of her orbiters for you, it tells you she doesn't want to risk losing you. Every time she has some random Chad approach her, he has already lost.

Also, when a woman sees you as her primary option, she will be willing to change for you in big ways. Rollo calls it deep conversion. For instance, when I met her she was your typical liberal hippie party chick. Feminist, SJW, you name it. Within a few years, I had her pushing harder to the right than me. Wanting to go to church, homeschool to teach our kids traditional gender roles, to keep feminists away from our boys, and cutting ties with all of her old degenerate friends.

Don't get me wrong. I don't have a unicorn. I still get shit tests on a regular basis and I have to stay on top of my game to keep the blowjobs and lingerie coming. Some guys are out of the matrix, yet they are still trying to figure out how to dodge bullets. When you are ready, you don't have to. There really is no spoon.

When you let yourself become plan B, you are selling yourself short. It would be better to be single your entire life and die a bachelor than to be a woman's second choice. Whether you want to spin plates or start a family.

AsmellyFinger · 2019-01-05T18:15:22+00:00

What you mean by "do not initiate"?

VillagersUnite · 2019-01-05T22:22:39+00:00

What human being would make sex and love super difficult, if you're both equally attracted to each other?

This is the question I always ask myself. Why make things difficult if you aren't trying to play games?

RepostGhostCst2Cst · 2019-01-05T18:55:39+00:00

It's almost like we should just not play the game at all.

2019-01-06T00:58:59+00:00

I hate to say it but y’all need Jesus aka AMS Alpha Male Strategies ...

512165381 · 2019-01-06T01:48:39+00:00

This is anecdotal. I worked with a girl 15 years ago, she was on dating websites & went to bars, said she would not find any guy worthwhile. This was before all the PUA stuff was common.

ScribeThoth · 2019-01-06T03:17:22+00:00

The type of woman who makes the first move while you are “doing nothing” are usually the same type that have relationship insurance policies that you are saying to avoid.

Man up and talk to women. This is not even remotely red pill advice.

2019-01-06T23:17:16+00:00

What is the thesis of this post? You are all over the place.

Do not initiate or try to impress.

This is bad advice. Don't peacock, but as a man it is your responsibility to push the interaction in the direction you want.

theDukesofSwagger · 2019-01-05T18:42:45+00:00

Way to go with that pre-mature male pattern baldness, my man!👈👈

chris_haga · 2019-01-05T17:49:22+00:00

fantastic advice all around

A_solo_tripper · 2019-01-06T02:33:02+00:00

I am real suspect about "studies".

I would suggest that people go to some infield "studies" with real results.

javiercer20 · 2019-01-06T02:34:48+00:00

The problem is not how to avoid those girls who see you as a Plan B. Instead focus on what you did wrong for her to see you as low value and keep you on the string.

Again is all about frame FRAME

Luckyluke23 · 2019-01-06T03:15:25+00:00

so when women have choice they have a plan b? doesn't eveyone?

Fraita · 2019-01-06T07:19:18+00:00

To all the readers, if you want to fuck. Then approach, you can never be too experienced to date.

If you want to see your dick every evening, alone in your apartment, well don't approach.
But sure, don't be a creep about it.
An approach doesn't have to be "Come home to my apartment lady and you will see my fun parts". Instead peak her interests with an approach, talk about random shit/the passion you both have.

Auxfite · 2019-01-05T21:15:17+00:00

Made a video on how To Increase Your SMV https://youtu.be/nKQjnTgjhis

The Women today are so flooded with attention online that they are starting to be come numb and lose genuine interest

palaceposy6706 · 2019-01-05T23:01:10+00:00

Yeah, this can work as an approach, it certainly has many advantages and cuts out a lot of the bullshit and games.

The downside is that the girls who are going to chase you are always going to be minimum 2-3 points below you in SMV. It doesn't bother me, may sound cliche but a girl's personality and brains are a big modifier of SMV for me. Sometimes it's downright adorable to see a girl parading you around like a huntress with her kill, showing you off like "look what I bagged!" and the puzzled looks on her friend's faces.

This always ends up the same way though, 1) their insecurity gets the best of them and they turn into downright bitches or 2) they get comfortable, think they have a spell over you and the SMV gap doesn't exist anymore and they turn into downright bitches.

You may get a few SMV equals but they will be crazier than the others.

2019-01-06T03:13:20+00:00

Statistics are not science. Your subjects were not observed in a natural habitat nor were they all responsive and you certainly have some that were not even documented.

NextBad · 2019-01-06T12:52:52+00:00

It's official this is now blue pill sub, it was a good run guys, it was predicated years ago that this sub would turn into this.

Don't worry about plan B, C or D, worry about what you want , if I like her and she makes me feel good, I really don't care, if I'm looking for a LTR just take time to get to know her

Title	How to avoid women who treat you as a plan B. And where to find women who only want to be with you.
Author	kakapoopooaccount
Upvotes	195
Comments	83
Date	January 5, 2019 12:47 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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