Why are people incapable of understanding female privilege?

Lethn · 2019-11-25T22:59:03+00:00

Indoctrination through feminist ideology, women are taught to believe they are the victims from an early age and men are taught to believe that they are not only privileged but always abusers and even when they're not they're potential abusers.

This is not a natural belief, people have been taught this and you can see how they came to their conclusions based on what sort of society they grew up in. The most radical feminists for example I have noticed especially the types in hollywood have grown up in a world where they are surrounded by almost exclusively rich and powerful men. I doubt they've even spoken to a working class man before other than to tell him to do a job.

Same goes for all these SJW types, when you look at their backgrounds, they very often come from rich societies where men are at the top and feminism so they don't see the shit normal people see of these spoiled rich brats basically attacking the working classes in particular.

If any of these people actually spoke to working class men or just men generally instead of constantly shouting them down then they'd quickly realise their world view is ridiculous and I think that is the real reason why they're so vicious when it comes to going after people that disagree with them. I've posted this numerous times, but I also believe it's a guilt thing too because they would then also have to come to terms with the fact that there are men out there who they've treated like absolute shit and they don't want to do that.

PsychoPhilosopher · 2019-11-26T00:31:14+00:00

So here's a trick: You can help people to get there.

It's something I promote regularly around here.

Never ever argue with a feminist directly about men and women. Always talk about minority women.

I have yet to have a bad response to talking first about the disadvantage experienced by women in poverty, women with disability, women with limited access to education. I then transition to saying that I don't see the same issues for upper middle class, middle aged, bottle blonde divorcees.

This is the card that helps to understand female privilege. Show inequality between one group of women and another, rather than talking about inequality between women and men.

Focus the conversation on the most privileged women. That's how feminists still trot out the patriarchy nonsense, by disingenuously treating all men as mustache-twirling C-Suite abusers. And as dirty disheveled monsters hiding in the park to attack women? This is why talking about men in the context of feminism is pointless.

The reason this works is that most women are aware of at least some women who have privileges and abuse the hell out of them. We've all met at least a few reprehensible people in our lives. Use that common ground.

EricAllonde · 2019-11-25T23:23:02+00:00

Why are people incapable of understanding female privilege?

In a word: gynocentrism.

Our society only cares about the suffering, including minor discomforts & inconveniences, of women. Male suffering is invisible - out of sight and out of mind.

So when you say:

"Women have female privilege in this area because men are disadvantaged and suffer more"

people mentally edit that to hear:

"Women have female privilege in this area because blah blah nothing nothing".

Because you have, in their mind, provided no justification for making such a seemingly outrageous and implausible statement, they will naturally reject & dismiss it.

NAWALT_VADER · 2019-11-26T01:01:07+00:00

I think it is a sort of "the grass is always greener" idea. Women who ask for male roles don't always understand what they are asking for, and having never lived the experiences of men they do not understand that there are as many or more negatives than there are positives. Based on a lot of the discussions I have seen men having about women, I do not think women are the only ones thinking the other gender has it easy. We as men often make the same mistakes about women, thinking their lives are perhaps easier than our own in all ways.

ArCSelkie37 · 2019-11-26T01:14:30+00:00

Because, to use one of their favourite lines against them, "It's hard to recognise your own privilege."

MRA-Sid · 2019-11-26T04:29:08+00:00

Feminists and white knights are unfortunately successful in brainwashing people with their fake ideologies and gynocentrism.

AskingToFeminists · 2019-11-26T09:57:53+00:00

Men are grateful to their women for allowing them to work, compete, and take on the role of provider and protector, because these to him are privileges

I will press x to doubt.

Maybe some men are. But the notion that work is the most fulfilling thing anyone can do seems rather absurd. The notion that raising your kid is a sacrifice one has to do in order to allow the other to do that fulfilling thing that work is seems even more preposterous.

So I am not really sure what exactly you are talking about.

liztu_june · 2019-11-26T03:55:27+00:00

Vast majority of people do that why most people do not identify as feminist.

username2136 · 2019-11-26T04:00:44+00:00

Ah yes, the two genders: “Oppressed individual” and “oppressor/rapist”.

AskingToFeminists · 2019-11-26T05:42:53+00:00

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DignifiedAlpaca · 2019-11-26T06:33:25+00:00

https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2017/10/18/wide-partisan-gaps-in-u-s-over-how-far-the-country-has-come-on-gender-equality/

The first chart in this article suggests that most people in the US (56%) don't think that either gender has it easier. My guess is that people who think that things are just fine the way they are have less reason to complain, and that is why we don't hear much about them despite them being the majority.

But then among those who do think one side has it better, more think men are the ones who have it better (35% vs 9%). The huge network of female supremacist organizations obviously has an incentive to help support this message (along with the resources to make it happen), so even though people who think men have it better only make up 35% of the population, they have by far the most influence over the narrative out of the 3 categories.

Lion_amongst_gods · 2019-11-26T10:16:14+00:00

I wouldn't say they're incapable. A good chunk of the people refuse to acknowledge female privilege because

They would be social outcasts.
It never came up to them, or they didn't put thought into it, or they think the status quo is fine as long as it doesn't affect them.
It's not profitable. A lot of people have their lives built up on female privilege, and rocking that foundation would mean end of careers or livelihood (academics, lawyers, politicians).

ninja_deli · 2019-11-26T20:54:38+00:00

It's simple really. Feminism has wrapped the world up in the notion that the patriarchy, and male privilege are the cause for all the world's ill's. Anything that goes against that, ESPECIALLY female privilege (which we all know is true), is not acknowledged.

DubsPackage · 2019-11-27T04:09:08+00:00

Because women don't see %99 of men, they only see the top %1 of men who run around having exciting lives while the wife is home with the baby and they think "I could be having that exciting life!"

Except life isn't really exciting for most of us, I mean most men aren't running around doing the job of their dreams, most men are either sitting in front of a computer screen crunching numbers, or mopping the floor or crawling thru an air duct full of roach shit.

So for %99 of men, sitting home with the baby and watching The Price is Right is a luxury we couldn't even dream of.

Title	Why are people incapable of understanding female privilege?
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Date	November 25, 2019 10:48 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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