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Circumcised men are at greater risk of HIV infection

goodmod

May 25, 2019
92 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://www.cirp.org/library/disease/HIV/vanhowe4/
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Title Circumcised men are at greater risk of HIV infection
Author

goodmod

Upvotes 92
Comments 20
Date May 25, 2019 7:47 AM UTC
(7 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/bss0kl/circumcised_men_are_at_greater_risk_of_hiv/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/circumcised-men-are-at-greater-risk-of-hiv.1206637
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Comments

[–][deleted] 33 points34 points35 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

All the men in Africa are being cut because they think it stops hiv

[–]rodrigogirao 27 points28 points29 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Then they'll think they're protected and can get around without using condoms. It's like someone wants to make a disaster even worse.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Never thought about it like that.

[–]peepeeandpoopooman 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly, all it does it gives them a false sense of security.

There are probably circumcised guys out there who also think because they've been circumcised they don't need to wash.

[–]Cuntplainer 19 points20 points21 points 7 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

There was this gem in the body of the text, which makes me question the main premise:

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What consistently appears throughout all of these studies is the strong correlation between genital ulcer disease and HIV infection. There is also a correlation between genital ulcer disease and the foreskin in many of the studies. However, when multivariate analysis was performed on several of the studies, the foreskin as a factor was no longer significant12,13, suggesting that the genital ulcer disease rather than the foreskin facilitated the transmission of HIV.

[–]babno 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Is there still any causal correlation between circumcision and ulcer infection though? Could it be circumcision causes ulcer which causes hiv vulnerability?

[–]Cuntplainer -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm circumcised and never had an ulcer.

[–]babno 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That is entirely irrelevant to wether circumcision makes ulcers more likely (not guaranteed) or not.

[–]jp_mra 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Chopping off women's breasts prevents breast cancer. Just saying....

[–]goodfoobar 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Only rumour but interesting comments on HIV studies done in Africa.

https://youtu.be/Pqc9yZUKD0E?t=26

[–]BurntBacn 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow, it's almost as if the skin is there for protection...

[–]akindaboiwantstohelp 14 points15 points16 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I didn't even know circumcision was a thing until very recently and. WHAT THE FUCK. Who was the absolute nut job of an asshole who thought it would be a good idea to chop off the foreskin bruh the shit underneath is sensitive as hell it makes no sense whatsoever.

[–]Schadrach 14 points15 points16 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Who? Some bronze age nutters who wanted to differentiate themselves from the next tribe over.

Unless you mean routine circumcision in the us, in which case the answer is Dr Kellogg (as in the cereal company) who promoted it because it would reduce sensation and thus hopefully reduce masturbation. Graham crackers were also created to reduce masturbation.

[–]devilsAvocadoe 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

and unfortunately the shit underneath becomes less sensitive due to being exposed. friction from clothing and a lack of lubrication causes it to sort of "harden" for lack of a better term. kind of like developing a calous
on a finger from playing guitar.

[–]thetolerator98 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I guess people just think it's a better aesthetic

[–]peepeeandpoopooman 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't get the aesthetic argument, when the penis is erect a circumcised penis looks pretty much the same as normal one anyway. And if a penis isn't erect then it doesn't matter what it looks like because it will be out of sight inside the guys underwear.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

so pedophiles?

[–]DJ-Roukan 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

...and more truth blowing up yet another dogmatic assumption.

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I love when you guys hurt people...

[–]RNAscientist 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/langlo/article/PIIS2214-109X(18)30567-9/fulltext Your paper is almost 20 years old. A reasonable discussion of the cost-benefit analysis should use recent data.

[–]Hofda0 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And here I am, forcibly circumcised by my mother who cheated on my dad, I’m glad he won custody.

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