One of the most important reasons of why men are so into the redpill is men being jealous o women hability of getting physical attention so easely.

GoodSilhouette · 2022-08-20T22:51:35+00:00

How are you going to say we have options then say you've had relations with multiple women?? I'm really confused. You have options too and you're exercising them lmao.

upbeat_diplomatkp · 2022-08-20T23:33:57+00:00

I will go a bit non tangent here.

The key to fight this narration is having self compassion for ourself and other gender. Hypothetically if you become a father one day would you be excited for your daughter that she will get physical attention everywhere she goes. She will have unlimited fun life walkin through men who sees her just holes to fill? .

Women live a different life and their fears, joys and victories are different from men in few accepts of life. Girls get sexual attention from very young age not just from the peer group but also from older relatives, uncles, drivers, bill counter guy basically everyone. I (F) was forced to learn at age 6 that boobs are attractive to boys and i should hide after being molested by a cousin. It is not great feel living in fear from childhood. Speak to male child abuse victims to get a prospective. Post puberty boys discover a fun toy down there and girls discover painful period menace and reaching out to other girls to build support system. Teenage boys may not often build this support system if they are not part of activity group.

Sex satisfaction by itself work differently between genders. Make a guess on How many men in onenight stand will go down on women vs how many will get BJs. Women need long foreplay with good clitoral stimulation to reach climax and by majority women dont climax during ONS. They need a guy who is patient and compassionate to reach climax. May be you are empathitic person so you are emotionally getting attached most people in FWB just treat eachother for temporary gratification.

The reality is hot people have more choice than average looking people. During academic years this narrative of RP gets huge acceptance beacuse every guy wants that hot/pretty girl and they are jealous she slept with hotter guy than self. If you were a kind hot guy and all the girls wanted you -wont you pick the best and friendzone others so they are not hurt. Speak aberage looking woman and they will have there own set of grievances.

The emotion behind "I made a mistake" is guilt and the emotion behind " I am a mistake" is shame. Shame is a crippling feeling and noone wants to feel it and this narrative girls have plenty of options avoids shame for men. Women and men navigate life differently and there cannot be one single meteric to define happiness for everyone we learn and grow with age.

We all need just one person who is compassionate, encouraging and supportive to be our better half. There is no common meterics or formula to get there as our lives are different.

It all comes down to having empathy for others.

AssistTemporary8422 · 2022-08-21T04:35:30+00:00

The accounts of many transgendered people really shows how there are pros and cons to both genders. Women are often harassed, objectified, and judged, sometimes to the point of sexual assault and rape. They are the ones who give birth and tend to do most of the childcare and may have to sacrifice their careers and deal with conflicting societal expectations. They are often tricked into casual relationships by men who claimed to want something long term.

Women tend to not be listened to as much as men, are often talked over, and are often not seen as intelligent or authoritative. Young women get a lot of attention but that fades as they get older and having good careers doesn't help older women as much as older men.

As a man you have to accept there are some disadvantages to being a man and you have to make the best of them. Its going to be harder to get attention unless you are very physically attractive.

Nix949 · 2022-08-21T07:31:07+00:00

This is what separates us men and women.

Few men can understand that being a sex object is not fun not cool not flattering or ego boosting. It's disgusting. Only being severely depressed and with complex trauma could I find any kind of satisfaction from getting inappropriate attention from men, especially men over 40.

But now that I am in me and love my body and mind like a temple...it's just disgusting. It just doesn't make any sense. Men who have casual relationships with women often call us sluts, cum buckets, toilets, easy and have no respect for those women. Why do I have to be flattered that a man wants to use me just for sex to validate his manhood to other men and satisfy his selfish desires while thinking I'm less than a human being for having done it with him.

lemoncurdmacaron · 2022-08-21T12:17:09+00:00

You are jelous of women who have what you want yet don’t want it. Most of us don’t like being seen as a disposable object.

I’m jelous of men who can often get full on commitment before sex much easier and it’s even seen as positive if he waits.

Few-Supermarket-8350 · 2022-08-21T15:55:07+00:00

I think it's unfair to expect that a woman should fuck you without you wanting to give her a solid commitment. Then you get upset when they don't want to fuck you?

If they're not entitled to a relationship with you then why should you feel entitled to have sex with them?

NextAdministration83 · 2022-08-20T22:57:06+00:00

Firstly, those women catching feelings is not at all your fault if your made it clear it was purely a platonic, physically intimate relationship. And most importantly, made it CLEAR that being affectionate is just another form of intimacy to you. I've had them, they've been great friendships, and either side always made it clear when we wanted to move on, dial it back, or feeling something more.

It's called emotional maturity. Any partner accusing the other of 'using them' in such an established thing is childish, and clearly rather blames others as a villain instead of acknowledging they just naturally developed feelings.

If you DIDNT have such a 'ground rules' talk, then you're no better than women who use and emotionally manipulate men into simping for them. You would then absolutely be a fuckboy.

Onto your question, could you clarify more? Im confused what particularly you're uncertain about.

Because commonly, the idea women have sex as much/with anyone can't exist in the same reality as "guys can never get a woman to sleep with them". Who else are women sleeping with?

Your observations fall under a confirmation bias. You're most definitely not at all observing the moments in social environments where women are rejected- not by them approaching as openly as guys do, but the passive cues they give that are never accepted or recieved- leaving them to just stick to their friend groups or sit back on their phones responding to all the desperate guys on Tinder and essentially 'settling' for the least-creepy one.

And she's not getting laid because she's super turned on for him. It's because he's easy. He's just to get her itch scratched. And he'll think he actually achieved to persuade/seduce a girl, that he's a top dog, when really he was just an easy vocal dildo.

Sure, she got sex. But statistically, she most likely got the equivalent of you sleeping with a girl and 3/4 through she asks you to stop because she's done.

Yes women CAN get laid more easily. But it's like wandering through a dirty swamp and you're thirsty, desperate for drinkable water.

It's not exactly better, it's just a different dynamic.

Theremin_Dee · 2022-08-21T06:59:32+00:00

The key to this whole thing is in the title: jealousy.

Jealousy is an emotion. You can get over jealousy. You are feeling like the grass is greener on the other side. I get it. The grass looks greener on the other side, precisely because it's the other side, and you're intimately familiar with all the tiny flaws and discomforts of your side exactly because it's the side you're on.

I want you to imagine that, all of a sudden, women changed completely. In appearance, in demeanor, in behavior. Everything women do, say, and are, does a complete fucking flip, like so:

All of a sudden, women run everything. Every corporate board, every state legislature, every nation, all run overwhelmingly by women. There are some men here and there, sure, but women have basically all the power, and any man who doesn't go along with the enormous majority of women is replaced by one who will.

Women get a lot meaner and more controlling. Also physically stronger, like Supergirl strong. More violent, too. No more play-hitting, almost every woman can put pretty much any man into the hospital with just a few blows. Many do. Some don't stop there. Most of the doctors are women, and tell these men that they're being too emotional about their lacerations, hematomas, concussions, and broken bones. They don't give you enough painkillers. And even while they're patching you up, they ask what you did to deserve it, and caution you that you shouldn't piss women off like that in the future.

Women get a lot less good-looking. Every individual woman falls three points on the hotness scale, but still insists they're exactly as good looking as they used to be. Twos think they're fives, and act like it. Fives think they're eights, and act like it. Sevens think they're tens, and act like it. There are practically no more eights, nines, or tens, except in porn, or Hollywood, or among the ultra-rich. Treating any woman like her actual number gets you screamed at for being stuck up, or maybe even hit. Hard.

In addition to the above, women stop wearing makeup, stop shaving their legs, stop wearing bras and nice clothes (only baggy jeans & baggy t-shirts), stop bothering with manners for the most part, and many even stop performing basic hygiene tasks. Any criticism of this is met with a screaming tirade, and about a third of the time, physical violence too.

Also, women start treating every single man like he's three points higher on the hotness scale, even tho men's looks are utterly unchanged. Men don't really trust this, but there's nothing they can really do about it. Women start socially pressuring men to wear uncomfortable undergarments that say they're supposed to move with you and be comfy, but actually fall far short of that promise pretty regularly. If you don't wear those undergarments, and anyone finds out, you're shamed and ridiculed, often having your job threatened if you don't wear them to work. You say you shouldn't have to wear them but nobody listens except other men, who have also been disempowered (even then, most men just wear them, and also berate anyone who doesn't go along).

Women are meaner, uglier, dirtier, smellier, sloppier, and more physically and politically powerful. They also start raping men in positively epidemic numbers. It doesn't feel good. Vaginas no longer self-lubricate, but instead reach and grasp and painfully hold on to the penis. Women now have an ovipositor that reaches inside men's penises and forces an egg inside their reproductive tracts. Men now get pregnant, and the baby swells inside the scrotum for nine months before bursting out very painfully. The scrotum heals completely in a few weeks, almost like it never happened, yet many women insist that the scrotum is completely used up after one kid (two or three at the most). But other ravages if pregnancy persist, like stretch marks on the lower abdomen where the skin is distended due to the fetus' weight, inguinal and abdominal hernias due to the constant core strain, and hip & knee problems from carrying a nine-pound ham between their legs for months on end. Men rarely ever orgasm during sex any more. Women still pester them for it, even when they're pregnant. All too often, they don't take No for an answer.

I will spare you periods.

There are indeed some good women, sure, but for the most part they're not even minimally decent. Hardly any of them is a good lay, but they all think they are. They're so used to men not orgasming during sex that many of them loudly deny that a male orgasm even exists. Most of them get angry if you try to ignore them and just go about your day, instead of smiling and nicely doing whatever it is they ask you to do. And no matter what you do or say, they insist women just are that way, and men just need to deal with it.

Now imagine one of these egotistical, brutish, slovenly, probable rapists and possible murderers comes on Reddit and says she's jealous of all the attention men get. Attention which, remember, women are giving to men on their own, and which is generally unwanted by men.

How do you think you would feel in that scenario?

Naus1987 · 2022-08-21T11:45:02+00:00

Interesting take!

I have an exception, but only a unique stance from a unique person!

I’m asexual, so I’m not into sex or physical intimacy, so therefore I’m not jealous, nor desire it.

However, I discovered red pill, because as an asexual, I could relate to the “going your own way” movement. So that’s how I discovered it.

Then the rest was like reading gossip tabloid magazines. Just watching stories of dumb people do dumb stuff. That part can be addicting lol.

I always believe the biggest problem with red pill isn’t that they bring attention to bad women, but that they completely gloss over the bad men. Both genders are equally fucked up, and despite having so much in common — still somehow struggle to empathize with each other. It’s so weird!

2022-08-21T08:54:58+00:00

Yes, it feels unfair.

lemoncurdmacaron · 2022-08-21T00:36:22+00:00

That's exactly it, women will always have it easier in dating because sex is more readily available to them.

Artistic_Chip · 2022-08-20T23:28:18+00:00

Lol my girlfriend gets hit on multiple times a week. I never get hit on

2022-08-21T16:10:36+00:00

Yes jeslous of Those women but also, and even more Those men that get Way more attention.

imullyn · 2022-08-23T11:19:40+00:00

I think you don’t understand your problem with your sex life is caused by men, not by women

Why you see more attractive women than men is because women actually spend the effort to physically look good wether that be for themselves or to not be judged in a societal world where women are scrutinized by their appearance 90% of the time.

While men don’t because men have generalized dressing up as only a womans thing. Hence why you see more ugly men.

A lot of the things you said were just wrong, some women don’t have an easier time finding sexual partners, even if they do, they face a lot of the same issues men do emotionally. Other times, the attention you’re describing is by rapey perverted men which rightfully no one would put themselves in that situation?

All and all, if it’s harder for u to find a sexual partner it’s really just ur problem. Maybe women don’t find u attractive, maybe ur not communicative enough, maybe ur not good in bed.

There’s plenty of women who struggle with those that I just listed above, everyone struggles with it. It’s really just acceptance

DisasterPeace7 · 2022-08-23T19:42:07+00:00

That's part of it, it's definitely a grass is greener kind of thing, a lot of women say they don't want attention but had they gone through their whole lives like a man who doesn't get attention they most likely be wishing for the opposite, so it's just one of those things if we could just do 15-20% both ways I think both sides would be happier

Tricky-Act8810 · 2022-10-28T16:04:11+00:00

Dating apps & social media need to be outlawed. That shit is dragging society down.

Egibson89 · 2022-10-29T12:45:16+00:00

Which is crazy cuz it’s men who give women that the privilege of being put on a a pedestal for such low effort and qualities that don’t make them good people.

Then they wonder why women don’t express more than that value, that they are shown is the most important.

That also comes with only being seen as that low effort value. Which actually.. gets old real fast

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