The Changing View of Men on Mental Health

Johntoreno · 2023-10-21T18:02:54+00:00

Male norms hinder therapy

Already off to a good start!

Beginning in adolescence, boys and men are less likely to seek out healthcare.

You clowns do such a horrible job at advertising your shitty services to Men and then you blame Men&their masculinity for not seeking your services? FUCK OFF! If you want Men's money, stop attacking masculinity and stop pandering to FemNazis! A bottle of gin is preferable over therapy from worthless male feminist cucks like you, Nick!

The world desperately needs men with the courage to face their emotional wounding

Wait a second, you claimed that Traditional masculinity is restrictive and then you end the article demanding that the world needs more courageous men??? The expectations to be courageous&risk taking is a traditional masculine expectation, you imbecile! You're using the language of Traditional Masculinity while also telling men to MOVE away from it??? There's no grey matter in that big bald head of yours, is there?

shit-zen-giggles · 2023-10-21T18:22:11+00:00

Thanks for sharing.

Long storry short:

Would 'toxic masculinity' be every bit as toxic if we dropped the label but kept the concepts?

woke garbage par excellence! Chapeaux!

Inevitable_Dark3225 · 2023-10-21T21:11:14+00:00

Same regurgitated take these "professionals" always make to appeal to the gynocracy.

r_c2999 · 2023-10-21T22:07:55+00:00

"Redefined masculinity encourages men to embrace emotional healing and therapy."

I'm pretty sure most men want to heal from their trauma because it's very masculine to face your problems, but therapy clearly isn't a resource for men. The field is literally 80% women and 20% men with no inclination of changing in the future as women make up 76% of newly issues psychology doctorates and 74% of early career psychologist. One of the major rules in therapy is to see the same sex or find someone you relate to really well. We don't even know if the other 20% of men are biological men or straight men so how could the straight men (most men) turn to this resource when there isn't much to relate to. It's helpful to dig into shameful events with someone you can have some small talk with about the game first or even a video game. HOW CAN WE LEAN ON A RESOURCE WHEN THERE'S LITTLE TO NO ONE TO RELATE TO?

You mean to tell me all the issues men face can be bottled up into "men's issues"? That's absolutely ridiculous!!! This is what most therapist categorize us into. Today men face several complex issues some of which actually disproportionately affect men like false accusations yet there's no specialty for this in the field. How about emotional and physical abuse which arguable disproportionately affect men. How about divorce, having a child, sexual assault, etc. I'm based in America and I can tell you right now there's little to no resources for men and boys who are sexual assaulted. The only resources that are recognized for male sexual assault are male survivor and 1in6, yet both don't have active support groups. Currently society and the mental health industry struggles to accept that men make up at least half of all sexual assault victims.

I highly doubt men will want to turn to a resource dominated by women after being sexually assaulted, emotionally abused or physically abused by a woman.

"Men have traditionally been less likely to seek mental healthcare due to societal expectations."

Considering what I just said, do you think this is b/c of a societal norm or is it because the mental health industry needs serious reform?

"In fact, it’s becoming respectable to intentionally work on yourself and take care of your mental health; these days, men are almost equally represented in mental healthcare."

HOW ARE WE EQUALLY REPRESENTED WHILE BEING DOMINATED 80/20 IN THE INDUSTRY. THE SUICIDE RATE CONTINUES TO CLIMB, BUT WE'RE EQUALLY REPRESENTED?!?!?! When was it not respectable to invest in yourself? Nick isn't doing us any good and is in fact an idiot.

Intrepid-Fan-6122 · 2023-10-21T23:43:40+00:00

Well done lads for calling out the BS in this piece. It shows that even men can be feminists in sheep's clothing. A few thoughts.

From the piece: "This means that while women are more likely to be diagnosed with anxiety and depression, men are less likely to be diagnosed at all."

Except for ADHD where boys are much more likely to be diagnosed because of their lesser ability to conform to the behavioral norms of the feminist-designed classroom and educational system. I guess that diagnosis doesn't count.

"In fact, it’s becoming respectable to intentionally work on yourself and take care of your mental health; these days, men are almost equally represented in mental healthcare." Really? I'd be interested to show credible stats that men make up close to half of MH clients - excluding those forced to attend. I am sceptical. I am also willing to bet that men drop out of therapy at a higher rate which is to be expected given 80% of psychologists are women.

Ronald Levant is an idiot. In the linked article (https://blog.oup.com/2020/05/moving-beyond-toxic-masculinity-a-qa-with-ronald-levant/), he had this to say:

Interviewer: "Do you see any biological component to masculinity, or is it entirely socially constructed?"

Levant: "There may be a biological basis to masculinity, but I am not aware of any solid support for this proposition. More importantly, we are psychologists not biologists, and we study masculinity as a social and psychological phenomenon."

In other words, evolutionary forces that have shaped profound differences between men and women are irrelevant because we ignore them. Idiot.

Back to the Psychology Today article, the author seems hopeful that men can realise their inherent emotional inadequacies and learn to get in touch with them in order to become women.

But men are not women, nor should they be. What would it look like for men to work on becoming better men, as opposed to women? The author has no idea because this possibility is outside of his worldview.

NorthwestDM · 2023-10-21T23:37:21+00:00

Archive option to avoid giving them clicks: https://archive.ph/n06SR

B1G_Fan · 2023-10-22T01:04:45+00:00

Aaron Clarey had a great take on how the government and psychology "profession" thinks it's a great idea to lecture men these days

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0s7gUriT2g

NeoNotNeo · 2023-10-22T13:47:05+00:00

Make men mentally stronger so they can go back to work and sponsor at least one wife. Yay!!

ERiC_693 · 2023-10-22T06:09:35+00:00

What a load of activist dribble.

At least the APA is waking up to this nonsense.

Men dont come forward because therapy isnt suited to men. Its not suited because its not problem solving based, its "pay your therapist 200$ per session for them to smile and nod". Why would men come forward to that? The other problem is it blames men on their problems (revictimisation?) and is plagued with ideology. So psychology is to blame for this, not men with mental health problems.

How about for a start we move psychology out of the social sciences departments in universities and into healthsci (actualsciences). That would be a great start.

wildlandsroamer · 2023-10-22T13:04:54+00:00

yet again trying to blame men for everything…it’s men’s fault that men are that way, iq lite article

Title	The Changing View of Men on Mental Health
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Date	October 21, 2023 4:46 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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