Clearing the Ground: Towards Definitions in Light of Evolution

Broadly defined to include evolutionary biology, population genetics, genetic similarity and assortative mating, life history theory, demography, evolutionary psychology, and allied disciplines.

Introduction

This is an initial contribution to further discussion on a much needed topic: mutually accepted definitions of widely-used and divergently-denotated terminology. The next helpful step would be to draw up a list of common cognitive biases (all women are great, AxALT, black and white thinking) and thought terminating cliches used by both men and women sorted by gender.

Tl;dr

• Both sexes have evolved and maintain rational mating strategies that just are, not "predatory" or "transactional" or otherwise amenable to retrospective value judgement as so many posters assume.

• The only argument contra is asserting our current physicosocial environment is so distant from the environment of evolutionary adaptation as to render meaningless one or both sexes' evolved strategies. The demographic transition points in this direction, as does differential dysgenic fertility, but the continuing fucking and further continuing birth of children provides a counterpoint.

Clearing the Ground: AF/BB in Evolution and Economics

1. Most here, even redpillers seem to misunderstand the cad/dad or "Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks" schematization. People seem to take it as the Alpha Fucks and the Beta pays for it. No. Beta Bucks isn't some inferior standard of leftover after the Alpha Fucks: AF/BB or cad/dad describe the two conditions in which woman will make themselves sexually available to men. "Beta" is still in the top 20%, whether one gets there either by raw animal attraction, or by status, dominance, and provisioning power. Viz., how many wealthy men "slay" without spending a nickel, let alone "sugaring", merely because they are wealthy and powerful on some small scale (anecdotally, being known to Google search AI and ChatGPT is sufficient). The Alpha stops Fucking as soon as his looks and virility run out, just like Stacy and the Wall, or the Beta stops fucking when his Bucks - status and power - run out.

2. This does not work in the opposite direction and is inherently gendered because of the "females are choosy maters" dating back into our pescatary past, evolved from having to carry children; likewise with "males display, females select". All I have said follows from females being an economic (scarce) good in evolutionary terms and males being, frankly, disposable, as long as the set of good male genes from one population generation propagates to the next with some degree of amplification, which is achieved only by differential eugenic fertility, which means most men not having children, or being vastly outcompeted in number of children.

TRP: In Light of Evolution, the Arc which all Truths Follow

Women:

• 1. Female sexuality is mostly transactional. By and large female sexuality and "romance" - relationships - are rational, even hard-nosed in self-interest, from economic and evolutionary points of view. The cad/dad paradigm, hypergamy, marrying up dominance hierarchies (including "golddigging" which isn't any more blameable than male "fertilitydigging" or what have you), all of the female dating behaviors blackpillers love to hate, are eminently rational if you shift your perspective from "what is good for the many and the future" to "what is good for this specific woman right now"?
• 1. Women have to have evolved rational mating strategies to have survived with the responsibility of carrying children as well. It's kind of like how tribalists get accused of dual morality, one for insiders and one for outsiders, but it's one coherent ethic: "what is good for the tribe is good".

• 4.1. When women date younger men who aren't established yet they're taking a winger on the man being the type who is likely to be successful later. There are dysfunctional women who fuck dysfunctional trash repeatedly because trash is at the top of the dominance hierarchies they were enculturated into, whether machismo or gang-related or abusers.

Men:

• 5. Male sexuality is largely romantic (irrational, focused towards mate-guarding and peacocking) and demonstrates an external locus of control. It is inherently giving, not predatory, because males have evolved from our pre-primate ancestors to provision females in exchange for them carrying our children and us having reasonable certainty of paternity. At least getting three out of six.

Defining Success: Population Genetics

• 6. By definition if a man has three natural-born children, he's evolutionarily successful. There are more of him in the next generation (1.5) than there are in his generation (1). Population genetics complicates the picture but not enough to change the gist. Likewise, males must have evolved a rational mating strategy to be represented in the current gene pool. The only argument contra is to say our current environment is so far from the environment of evolutionary adaptation as to render meaningless one or both sexes' evolved strategies. The demographic transition points in this direction, as does differential dysgenic fertility, but the continuing fucking and further continuing birth of children provides a counterpoint.

Some Accusations...

• 7. The only way I see either sexuality as being predatory - let's focus on the male - is when the male chooses to chase women significantly younger or more fertile than you, and the accusation stems from a place of envy. The only other way I can see is to compare a male rapist to everyone else and make the argument from strength or, God forbid, the old feminist hack that all sex is exploitative and thus predatory because we live in an ostensible patriarchy.

...and Bad Faith Arguments to Dump

• 8. I can make the argument that female sexuality is economically predatory or parasitical, but I don't, because both males and females evolved the way they did and no amount of bitching about human nature is going to change it into a mass of androgynous, acultural, anethnic Fungible Human Material.

Probably Provocative Preliminary Conclusions

It was the Renaissance through Georgian or early Second Elizabethan ideal of marriage and egalitarianism, reaching its apotheosis in the Married Women's Property Act of 1874, that is the historical aberration. Look at the rates of survival for patrician families in the Roman principate.